Quilford wrote:
I'm interested that you say this with only two people left. I think this is scum looking for an easy reason to point the finger.
I said this just to make sure no one (scum) would intentionally drag their feet on the claim. I had no intention on going through with a lynch based on how long they took, it was simply a pressure statement.
Quilford wrote:
Isn't calling someone scummy advocating their lynch?
Absolutely not. It is one of the most commonly done skills as scum to appear that they find someone scummy but to not actually want their lynch. You absolutely looked like you were doing just this. You pointed out, to a very slight degree, who that slot had done that was scummy, then you went about pushing another player's lynch for most of the day.
Quilford wrote:
Why
wasn't my vote on crazy very good
?
Underlined mine to put the quote in context. Your entire vote was "I vote for crazy based on reasining that I said
in my very first post of the game
. There are 2 things wrong with this. One, the information was outdated. Two, your conclusion of the slot in said post was
slightly leaning
scum. You can't just say "alright I'll lynch this player who is slightly leaning scum without contributing anything more to the discussion". It was a weak bus.
For the record, I had every intention to hammer crazy, but he self hammered. I made it very clear towards the end of the day that he was the player I wanted lynched, and I made no attempt to shift the wagon elsewhere.
Furthermore, we should probably be looking for players who bussed. Crazy would not self hammer if his scum buddy wasn't on the wagon already, thus denying him the chance to gain some town cred. Since both scum have flipped goon, we've probably got a remaining power role (I'm guessing role blocker, as it is most common). Power roles usually bus their goons for town cred.
Valern wrote:
But I'll let those who've been here longer weigh the risks vs benefits of such a strategy.
As I said, it seems like the likelihood of the last scum being a role blocker is way too high to employ this strategy. I say it is definitely out.
Valern wrote:
Romanus/Crazy slot's vote/unvote on ICE seems like an obv-bus/distancing manoeuvre in hindsight.
Now that you point this out, it sort of does, and there's really not much I can say to defend myself from this point. It was just a bad vote made by scum, really. They do that to town to try and get bandwagons rolling, which he did. Once he was called out on it, he backtracked so hard.
Valern wrote:
and then there's the reason I initially voted him in the first place, which is that he had a scummy overreaction to people voting him. This point is still valid.
I'm pretty sure that wagon on me was horrible, and it fell apart for good reasons. I didn't overreact to anything, a significant wagon jumped on me for abysmally bad reasons, and I reacted just the right amount. You never had valid reasons for voting me, and you can't use these to vote for me now.
Valern wrote:
NK speculation in his above post. There is NO POINT to it and it only serves to pad his post and make it look like he has more to say with actual conviction behind it than he does.
What? Scum killed a scum read of mine. Of course I'm going to say something on the matter. I fail to see anything useless or scummy about what I said.
Finally, there is Quilford bringing up my calling out of EA in order to get us out of RVS. Talk about desperate. If you guys seriously think that was a scum tell, I can think of 3 games just off the top of my head where I did the
exact same thing
as town. It is a play style tell, not an alignment tell, and Quilford trying to throw that dirt in my face is scummy as hell.
Scum knows that I need to die today. DRK is going to be night killed out of necessity, and Ranger isn't going to be lynched. Whichever between QUilford and Valern is scum knows that they HAVE to take the other to lylo to win.
I'll dig down and present my findings of Quilford and Valern probably today. I'm almost positive that scum is between these two, and like I said in day 3, if Ranger is scum, he deserves to win. Hopefully I'll be able to give a clear showing of which between Valern and Quilford is the best lynch today. There's no need to take this to lylo at all.