Mini 1190: Game over

[Heliman]

Sup, female canines. I'm rereading now and stuff. I'm going to basically reread this whole steaming pile of posts by tomorrow or the next day or something, but in the meanwhile is there anything of interest for me to focus on?

[Heliman]

Ugh. Done reading. First thing. Hoppster, I hate your walls, I've found a great deal of it to be horribly formatted. If you weren't so confirmed town I might have even been a little suspicious about that.

Anyways, it looks like both of my previous replacements were all up in Empking's shit. If the full moon comes theatrically out of the clouds and you notice me to beginning to go pale and start drooling for Empking's blood someone please restrain me because this slot is a vampire and I don't find empking all that scummy. He does happen to be a laconic, but after a brief glance at empking's meta that's pretty run-of-the-mill.

The current Xfart/Panzer argument is approaching hoppster levels of complexity, but seems to be leaning in favor of Xvart. The change in opinions about the meta xvart made was exactly what I would have brought up; it smelled very strongly of a bus.

@PbuG
I don't do huge post throwbacks all that often, but seeing as I am a replace there is one thing I wanted to mention that got missed D1:

Maybe tunneling was a bit strong, but your adamance that he tell you where you said that he said he wanted a mislynch was frustrating in that you refused to clarify your question. "The only player who's scumhunted even a little" is just plain offensive. Toro has not committed every single scumtell in the book, you have extrapolated his behavior at every turn. Yes, he's quite scummy, but the way you've been reacting is just as scummy. There's a difference between scumhunting and jumpy aggression based on things he isn't even saying.

I find it particularly odd how PBuG first apologizes to Empking for using a hyperbole, then gets on his case for Empking using hyperbole himself. Kind of a double standard there.

[Heliman]

Do you have any actual suspects, Heliman?

Panzar, primarily. My condolences if my suspicion of him wasn't blatant enough for you to notice in my previous post.

[Heliman]

Took me a minute to figure out what the hell hoppster just meant here.

Panzar, if you think that Xvart and TheFool are scumbuddies, why are you voting Captain Corporal?

[Heliman]

Well damn, Panzar is a mason? That changes things somewhat, it also means I'm gonna have to reread again. Dammit.

[Heliman]

Ok, done with the reread. The claim seems okay, but there's one thing that's setting me off:

Out of curiousity, PanzThom, do you have daytalk capabilities?

Yes we have daytalk.

Pardon if this is just me speaking from inexperience with normal games, but I didn't know that Masons could have a Daytalk in Normal mafia. The wiki for the mason role states that masons communicate at night, and day-rolepowers aren't listed as accepted normal role modifiers.

[Heliman]

Ok, done with the reread. The claim seems okay, but there's one thing that's setting me off:

Out of curiousity, PanzThom, do you have daytalk capabilities?

Yes we have daytalk.

Pardon if this is just me speaking from inexperience with normal games, but I didn't know that Masons could have a Daytalk in Normal mafia. The wiki for the mason role states that masons communicate at night, and day-rolepowers aren't listed as accepted normal role modifiers.

It's not in the explicitly non-normal modifier list either, I think it's a fine thing considering other games

If that were the case, then wouldn't it be considered a new/variant role? Only one can be allowed in a Mini, and there are two claimed day masons.

[Heliman]

You wouldn't happen to have any examples of that, would you? It'd be annoying for me to trawl for something that you've already dealt with in a past game.

[Heliman]

Actually I don't find Xvart that scummy. Judging by the last game I played with him, he tends towards becoming anxious and defensive when near a lynch.

I'm currently waiting on Panzar to provide an example of the day-masons that are apparently a standard in his experience. If he can't make an example, then he was lying to make his claim more believable in #961.

[Heliman]

Ninja edit, I forgot to add "as town" to the second sentence.

[Heliman]

Blast, so close to having scum out in the open. Oh well, GJ on sleuthing that one out Fool, the mason claim seems pretty effing acceptable with that in mind.

[Heliman]

Heliman: I believe the vig claim for now and have obvious doubts towards a scum-vig, but he's been very fluffy (still no vote), Sunday's play was pretty odd, and Toro's not that great either, so worth keeping an eye on at least

Ugh, yeah, sorry. It seems I'm not very good at replacing after all; I've been blocking a good bit on this game.

Xvart, despite what I said in 970, seems to be the best second option. After rereading the last game I played with him again, He actually seems even more defensive then he was in the last game, if that's even a possibility.

Ok Xvart, I'm threatening a hammer on you (again). What's your claim?

[Heliman]

You mean because I convinced your mason partner that you were scum? He voted you for the case I put together.

What

I got Hoppster to L-2 and my case on you is ten times stronger and better than the one I built on you.

What

[Heliman]

You mean because I convinced your mason partner that you were scum? He voted you for the case I put together.

What

I posted Panzer's contradictions in Post

826

. Thomith then voted for Panzer in Post 828, saying "it seems panzer has contradicted himself alot about the miller claim and meta." Thomith was voting for his supposed mason partner and attributing it to the case I put forward.

See, this shit is why you keep getting lynched. Only the right mix hubris and real, bonified stupidity could ever make someone think that they actually convinced a mason to vote his partner. Use your goddamn head for once.

[Heliman]

[quote="Hoppster"[*]

Distraction

: I am finding it extremely difficult to motivate myself to scum-hunt or even post with xvart still alive. I don't know why. I just am. Seriously, it feels like

trying to read with a screaming baby in the room

, I'm talking about that level of distraction and I do not know the fuck why it's happening, it just is.[/*][/list][/quote]
Hoppster, Do you have any idea how impossibly annoying it is to have to wrestle with your badly formatted WoTs? If you want to make an issue about a blowhard than I suggest you look in a mirror before you raise your voice about it.

See, this shit is why you keep getting lynched. Only the right mix hubris and real, bonified stupidity could ever make someone think that they actually convinced a mason to vote his partner. Use your goddamn head for once.

The reason I almost got lynched in this game and the reason I got lynched in the other game is orders of magnitude different. But you illustrate my point well. I don't believe they are masons so I didn't actually think I got a mason partner to vote a mason partner. I think I got a scum member to bus his buddy. I was speaking from his alleged viewpoint.

In the future, when tossing about hypotheticals I suggest you mention that during because when it comes afterwards it can be interpreted as a scumslip, sarcasm doesn't carry well over the internet.

*sigh* I'm ending this.
VOTE: Xvart
goodnight, Cleveland.