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HE ADDED A PERIOD.
THE DOUCHE.
XVART IS CONFIRMED SCUM.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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This is a mini normal. It's bound to devolve into a trainwreck regardless of who's playing it.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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vote: kondi
policy lynching it up in this
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I legitimately thought you were SK that game, if it's any consolation.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Policy lynching is a Day 1 thing you moron. I told you I'd policy lynch you today, why can't you accept that?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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*steals Haschel's food*
IT WAS ALL A PLOT
FOR FREE FOOD
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xvart wrote:What's the policy?
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WOOOOOOHOOOOOO
CooLskins and Beck just both double RVSed. There is a 100% chance at least one is scum.
Hrezs has posted and isn't voting. There is an 80% chance he is scum.
Surye hasn't posted yet outside of confirmation and I'd like the mod to unofficially prod him. There is a 100% chance he will post following that prod.
kondi is still a totally good policy lynch. There is a 50% chance I will keep my vote on him after this post.
This game's only on page three. It's impossible for me to have caught all the scum at this point, but there is an 80% chance that 2 of the 3 players I have mentioned are scum, and a 100% chance that at least one is.
This wagon isn't helpful at all.
CooLskins, why is Beck scum?
Beck, why is CooLskins scum?
Hrezs, why is kondi town?
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I'd totally vote Hrezs because he's scum.
But I just can't stand kondi because [ongoing game].
and answer my question, dammit.
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Definitely wrong. CooLskins changed their vote on the bottom of the last page.
Don't automate your votecounts please, mod.
*Thanks for pointing it out. See above update. - HPLast edited by Humble Poirot on Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:10 pm, edited 2 times in total.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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CooLskins wrote:simple really:
I love the way you just jump right on to my question without giving it a second glance.
CooLskins wrote:1) wishywashy in vote stages. Votes for hasc, then all of a sudden votes for don.
I kinda already went over this but sure.
CooLskins wrote:2) hops on biggest wagon that already has 4 peple on it. Which is plenty big for an rvs wagon
Agree.
CooLskins wrote:3) His votes don't contribute to the game. Hasc had 2 votes on him when he unvoted to a wagon that had no votes.
AKA failing RVS forever.
CooLskins wrote:4) piggy-backing with an apparently experienced (I full heatedly deny this ) player to gain town credit.
Eh, this doesn't work.
CooLskins wrote:5) doesn't seem to understand the magnitude of his vote.
His vote is worth as much as any other vote?
Then again comparing this to Beck's rezction.... bwahahahaha.
Beck wrote:Parama's reaction to his wagon was HORRIBLE, I don't know what the heck you are thinking if you actually think that reaction was genuine town. He immediately starts deflecting off himself by calling out multiple people.
Deflecting implies I was suspected in the first place. I let the smart people wagon me for the lulz d(''d)
Beck wrote:1. he declares one of coolskins or myself is scum, 100% guaranteed and he is 80% he has caught a second (@ Parama, i'd like a link to 2 or 3 games on site that can support this scum tell please, if yuo are unable to provide such links than your 100% nonsense is horseshit)
I'm not looking through my past games just to support claims that are generally seen as accurate.
Beck wrote:2. he starts calling out lurkers or inactive posters to get the attention off himself
I told the mod to prod Surye. I did not say I suspected Surye. And "lurkers" implies multiple people, yet I only mentioned one player.
Beck wrote:3. he starts asking people to explain why somebody is scum or town, wether they actually believe that person is or not. It is way to early in the game for me personally to have strong scum or town reads on anyone
It is possible to catch scum on page 1; I've done it before, for the record
It is never too early to scumhunt.
I don't care what the people believed, I asked questions, and they either answer the question the way I asked or say why they disagree with the question's premise.
Oh and, if it's waylearntospell pleaseearly in the game for you to have strong reads, why are you claiming to have a strong read on me?
Beck wrote:4. he honestly advocates a policy lynch, which in my opinion is a horrible reason to lynch anyone (though this isn't a scumtell, it's just a stupidtell. policy lynches are lame)
Hah, calling me stupid.
ur da stupidist, u no
also policy lynches are boss.
deselby wrote:@parama, why the certainty so early on?
If I look like I believe something more than I actually do, the scum will get antsier. I am not as certain as I sound; however, if I sound more certain than I am, and I'm right, the scum will scream and squirm and out themselves.
I mean, it worked here.
CooLskins wrote:I'm really not liking Don's reaction to the Beck wagon. Saying that the wagon is good without voting is classic scum fence-sitting. It could be him trying to push a townie wagon without his vote being on it, or him offering vague support for a scumbud's wagon without him actuall pushing it. Either way it's super scummy.
agreed.
anyways this game's all wrapped up. Beck/Hrezs/probablydon are the scum.unvote, vote: BeckShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Yeah, Beck, sorry but bobsnox, xvart, and CooLskins are all my scumbuddies. Don't take it personally.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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CooLskins wrote:@#beck, parama has a meta of throwing out semi-random percentages in order to show how confident he is in making a statement. At least I think he has that meta.
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OSV in a 13p?
pssh. all that would do is waste a lynch for the town. I see no reason to change my vote.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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You're not a town PR.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Surye wrote:I don't like this. If you believed he was a OSV, you'd still lynch?
If I believed he was OSV, that'd mean I think he's town. I don't lynch town reads.
Beck wrote:Parama wrote:You're not a town PR.
I'm sorry, Vig is a town PR, what mafia have you played?
You're not town, so you can't be a town PR.
<_<
Beck wrote:P. Edit, not to toot my own horn but I'm the ONLY ONE who has done anything pro town
There is not enough laughter in the world to accommodate for this statement.
Beck wrote:Learn 2 play or be less obvious as scum
1. I have a year and a half of mafia experience, and over 8500 game posts. I've been nominated for several scummies. I have singlehandedly won games for both town and scum. I don't think I need to learn 2 play.
2. Repeating the above, with emphasis on how I've singlehandedly for my scumteam.
I don't have a scumteam this game though so it hardly matters.
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Parama wrote:CooLskins and Beck just both double RVSed. There is a 100% chance at least one is scum.
So CooLskins is basically confirmed scum now.
vote: Hrezs
since there's two more scum, and Hrezs is one of them.
Oh and here's scum #3:
don_johnson wrote:beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.
you can thank me and nominate me for a scummy later
bobsnox what's off about #26? It's kinda pregame discussion and I see nothing wrong with it.
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Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
vote: Hrezs
since there's two more scum, and Hrezs is one of them.
Hows this work again? I came back to read the game and the thread was closed.
Also you just called3people scum, and said2more scum left?
Sounds like a scumslip.
Vote: Parama
BWAHAHAHAHA
There are 2 more scum left besides confscum CooLskins. Nice outrageous misrep there. I'm going to go ahead and say that you're confscum too.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Sup. Skimmed.
I see nobody suspects Hrezs except me.
This is either a sign that I'm crazy or that I hit the nail on the head. Probably a combination of both.
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Haschel Cedricson wrote:Parama, why are you voting for Hrezs?
Vote: Parama
pffff you're voting me because you're too lazy to look for my reasoning against Hrezs.
which means you're probably not scum with him, actually.
so this may be a good thing but it's at least partly bad because your vote is bad.
Lazy my-iso-only case time!
Parama wrote:Hrezs has posted and isn't voting. There is an 80% chance he is scum.
this was like the only noteworthy thing Hrezs did D1, btw. Not much more of a case to make on him.
And then...
Parama wrote:Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
vote: Hrezs
since there's two more scum, and Hrezs is one of them.
Hows this work again? I came back to read the game and the thread was closed.
Also you just called3people scum, and said2more scum left?
Sounds like a scumslip.
Vote: Parama
BWAHAHAHAHA
There are 2 more scum left besides confscum CooLskins. Nice outrageous misrep there. I'm going to go ahead and say that you're confscum too.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
CooLskins wrote:Parama wrote:Parama wrote:CooLskins and Beck just both double RVSed. There is a 100% chance at least one is scum.
So CooLskins is basically confirmed scum now.
vote: Hrezs
since there's two more scum, and Hrezs is one of them.
Here we go. I have the strongest scum read on player A, but I will not vote for him because He is so scummy that we can lynch him tomorrow, bullshit. If you have a scum read on somebody why are you not voting for them? It seems stupid to allow a someone who you are absolutely sure is scum survive till the night. There is no town motivation for voting for a number two scum read this early in the day, period.
I'm saving you for a mislynch later. Deal with it.
The truth is that I still feel better about a Hrezs lynch regardless of the fact that you're confirmed scum, because you're confirmed scum mostly for reasons that are beyond your control and have little to do with your posting, whereas Hrezs' posting is basically a scumclaim.
Nah, not basically, it is; especially the one about my "scumslip" as he calls it.
Bub Bidderskins wrote:Also, I agree with CooLDoG regarding Parama. If Parama thinks we are confirmed scum (and he has said this more than once) then why isn't he voting for us?
-Bub
shutupshutupshutup
I'm pulling a reverse bus here; they'll never suspect it. Just stay quiet and alive so we can win
bobsnox wrote:Bub you're posting as yourself. Kinda confusing
bobsnox is a hypocrite because he's posting as himself.
I guess this is kinda confusing seeing as I'm posting as myself.
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xvart wrote:Parama wrote:OSV in a 13p?
pssh. all that would do is waste a lynch for the town. I see no reason to change my vote.
This really strikes me as strange. I don't think I've personally ever seen a full shot vig in a mini normal I've played but I have seen even/odd night vigs and a one shot vig is less shots than those so I don't really get the implication that a one shot vig in a mini normal is unbalanced or soooo unlikely. In fact, wasn't some of the justification for having the mini limit increase to a player base of 13 to incorporate a vig to increase town chances of winning? This just seems like an off the cuff reason to power through the lynch with no substantive base in reality. Based on your opinion do you think a full vig or an even/odd vig is even less likely than a full vig in a mini normal?
the only advantage of an OSV kill over a lynch is that it's guaranteed to come from a townie, but the major disadvantage is that a single townie can be biased.
And I had a good idea of who Beck would've shot.
And he'd end up wasting a lynch because of bias
And if he had been scum, all the better!
P.S. I've seen plenty of vigs in minis.
xvart wrote:I actually don't think this is a misrep as much as misinterpretation. Your original post isn't exactly a shining example of clarity.
screw off
xvart wrote:the fact that Parama isn't voting someone that isconfirmed scum
0_0
So you agree that CooLskins is confirmed scum.
Even though, technically, he isn't. I just toss around the term haphazardly like a boss.
xvart... why do you think CooLskins is confirmed scum?
0_o
Do you know something I don't?
Do you know something that the town doesn't?
Or is this just a post that isn't a shining example of clarity? I have my doubts about that.
don_johnson wrote:C'est moi? Xvart is my neighbor btw. So im a wee bit shocked by the accusation.
*headdesk desk*
welp. xvart and don ain't scum together. one of them probably is, and that has nothing to do with the fact that they're neighbors.
Why should he think you're town simply because you're a neighbor with him, by the way?
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CooLskins wrote:Link me to a pro-town post. Or shall we assume that you haven't made one?
Stupid. Question. Ever.
Here's a shining example of what any player responds to this question with, regardless of their alignment:
don_johnson wrote:All of my posts are "pro-town"
Now wasn't that fun? You just learned nothing!
bobsnox wrote:Celebloki, deselby, don johnson - good lynches today.
elaboration would be appreciated.
deselby/bobsnox fight makes little sense to my brain. can someone explain to me what they're fighting over?
Celebloki wrote:Hello all, for what its worth I'm not going to defend my hammer
unsure what to make of this. noting it for future reference.
Hrezs wrote:Did some light skimming, I don't like Parama
Holy hell, Zodiark's 242 sucks. "Yay, lemme repeat stuff about don that's already been said. Don't mind me, I don't feel like mentioning the other 9 players at all. Just want to push this wagon. Bye!"
^the feeling I'm getting.
don_johnson wrote:parama 101 is sensible until the beck vote.
You have the power of hindsight. Saying stuff like this is stupid.
xvart wrote:Parama is clearly more scummy than don (who you are voting for) so why aren't you voting him?
your ISO has one point about me, and also includes you saying I'm town
whereas you have a huge fight with don including a wall-o-text-war.
What makes me scummier than him, just wondering? Because, well, one, you're wrong, two, it doesn't look like you actually think that.
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Haschel Cedricson wrote:don_johnson is obvtown and should not be lynched today.
E-Lab Or Eight?
Haschel Cedricson wrote:Each of them is voting for the non-CooLskins partner.
Shut up, it's bad form to bus this early in the game.
Hrezs wrote:very anti town
anti-town =/= scummy
sigh
and nothing about why I'm scum. neato.you have nothing except this supposed "scumslip" which was just you misrepping me, and blatantly at that. excuse me while I refrain from moving my vote
Humble Poirot wrote:* Antihero replaces kondi2424
Votecount coming soon. - HP
don't care what happens for the rest of the game, this will be nominated for Best Replacement.
bobsnox wrote:There is a reason I seem like a buddy with Parama, btw. He is not today's lynch and neither am I. He may be at a later time but we need a lot more evidence to go off of.
SHHHH! I told you, I warned you about stares man! They're staring at us! Why did you let them in on our scumbuddy secret?
Antihero wrote:I've been looking at this game for that past 2 hours and the only person who I thought was really scummy was Surye.
That's a sign I need to walk away from this and come back tomorrow.
D:
bobsnox wrote:he's on my good lynch list.
ain't voting him, I dun care.
Celebloki wrote:A Wagon against kondi/Antihero won't get us anywhere atm. I await what Antihero has to say but we obviously can't expect him to enlighten us on what kondi's thought process are. Kondi probably is scum and was caught so he lurked then accepted replacement because he didn't want to try and get himself out of the hole. That being said my now vote on Antihero get's us nowhere. He'll be better scrutinized later.
Unvote
The slot's still the same. Nothing has changed. Why did your vote change, then?
Hrezs, Zodiark, and the kondi slot each have 7 posts. Just thought I'd put this out there, though the last of the three is less guilty than the other two for obvious reasons.
Reading this thread... was a waste of time. I changed very few reads. Gained very little of importance. Thanks, guys.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Hrezs wrote:I find it hilarious that the people who suspect me have done nothing but say I'm scum with no reasoning. Doubly so because 2/3 people doing it I think are scum, one of whom has only been suspicious of me after I voted him
this is hilarious.
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Holy crap if I'd known that not posting could cause a wagon to form on my top scumspect I would've never bothered to build cases
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OH MAN I'M ACTUALLY TRYING AGAIN WHEEEEE
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Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs has posted and isn't voting. There is an 80% chance he is scum.
so... I'm scum because I didn't RVS
note to everyone: I had posted once(twice technically) by the time of this post
Yeah, because town have no reason not to RVS. Scum avoid it out of "caution lul" but that never works.
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs, Zodiark, don, xvart, and kondi all need to post more; they all have 5 or less posts, and at least one of those is pregame for each.
oh... Too bad the thread was locked when I came back to post
This is not an excuse. Seriously.
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs wrote:Did some light skimming, I don't like Parama
Holy hell, Zodiark's 242 sucks. "Yay, lemme repeat stuff about don that's already been said. Don't mind me, I don't feel like mentioning the other 9 players at all. Just want to push this wagon. Bye!"
^the feeling I'm getting.
Repeat stuff about don?
Is that REALLY what you're fixating on in this post? You've said nothing on most of my posts, just quoted them for god knows why, and then you come to a post NOT about you and ask an irrelevant question that anybody with a goddamn brain would realize is a stupid question because it requires someone WITHOUT a brain to ASK THE GODDAMN QUESTION?
...repeating stuff about don = repeating stuff about don that others have said and used as an argument against don.
Oh and Zodiark is 100% scum if Hrezs flips scum, and Hrezs is flipping scum.
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
anti-town =/= scummy
sigh
and nothing about why I'm scum. neato.you have nothing except this supposed "scumslip" which was just you misrepping me, and blatantly at that. excuse me while I refrain from moving my vote
anti-town and scummy go together a lot of the time. At the very least your attitude was anti-town, at the most it was scumtastic.
But this is not what you said.
Hrezs wrote:great arguments you have there
your piss poor responses are the most laughable thing I've read all day.
I am confused by Zodiark's 294. It's terrible, it really is, but shockingly... logical? I don't know. Ugh.
CooLskins wrote:@parama, I did learn that he admits to not scum hunting, and yet insists that he is pro-town. Also, good work on that their dodge.
Yeah tbh I have no clue what you're talking about here. if the game ate your post, make the post again. I don't want cryptic mysteries.
CooLskins wrote:@@hez wagon, hez is lurking poretty bad. I could put him in a don/parama scum team. But don has to be today's lynch.
You aren't even trying. Not at all. You know you're screwed. You know your team's screwed. Why are you trying to make it worse? Because that's tough to do, but you seem to be pulling it off just fine.
bobsnox wrote:His reaction is confscum to me. Hrezs is still a good lynch but Zodiark is just bad bad scum.
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this was missing from that last post somehow.
Antihero wrote:Celebolki actually said a couple pages before that he "wasn't comfortable dropping the hammer" or something to that effect. This cautiousness vanished in the subsequent pages for no apparent reason.
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Celebloki wrote:Zodiark13 wrote:Hammering a claimed OSV less than a week since the start of the day just because the claimed OSV is a VI = scum
Zodiark13 wrote:And honestly, hammering a VI is hardly a massive scumtell.
Vote: Zodiark13
oh hey. a contradiction. Zodiark gets to be lynched either today or tomorrow. Take your pick.
Hey BubDoG did you read Celebloki's above post? Good day to you sir. You're making every excuse in the book to sit on your don vote because it's on town, right? I don't know for sure if don's town but if you're scum he ain't and you're probably going to flip red so he probably is.
oh and then 310 happens. Meh.
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This just reeks of faking a justification because you got called out on it. Someone is confirmed scum because of things beyond their control so you don't vote them?Parama, 281 wrote:The truth is that I still feel better about a Hrezs lynch regardless of the fact that you're confirmed scum, because you're confirmed scum mostly for reasons that are beyond your control and have little to do with your posting, whereas Hrezs' posting is basically a scumclaim.
Nah, not basically, it is; especially the one about my "scumslip" as he calls it.
Yeah I BS responses often. If I didn't say anything you'd yell at me anyways.
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I don't find this explanation acceptable and you conveniently didn't even consider that a lynch can be biased as well.Parama, 281 wrote:xvart wrote:Parama wrote:OSV in a 13p?
pssh. all that would do is waste a lynch for the town. I see no reason to change my vote.
This really strikes me as strange. I don't think I've personally ever seen a full shot vig in a mini normal I've played but I have seen even/odd night vigs and a one shot vig is less shots than those so I don't really get the implication that a one shot vig in a mini normal is unbalanced or soooo unlikely. In fact, wasn't some of the justification for having the mini limit increase to a player base of 13 to incorporate a vig to increase town chances of winning? This just seems like an off the cuff reason to power through the lynch with no substantive base in reality. Based on your opinion do you think a full vig or an even/odd vig is even less likely than a full vig in a mini normal?
the only advantage of an OSV kill over a lynch is that it's guaranteed to come from a townie, but the major disadvantage is that a single townie can be biased.
I don't care if you don't find the explanation acceptable, because it's theoretically true. MD it post-game if you want to.
Lynch bias is completely different from vig bias. A vendetta is something that will not force a lynch; it can most certainly affect vig kills though.
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And this concerns me greatly since you were so adamant about him being lynched.Parama, 281 wrote:And I had a good idea of who Beck would've shot.
He was scummy, which is why I wanted him lynched. His ridiculous vendetta + his claim only made him a better lynch.
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So the difference between full vigs and one shot vigs is one shot vigs can only be biased once. Have you ever had a full vig claim on D1 in a mini game?Parama, 281 wrote:P.S. I've seen plenty of vigs in minis.
If they were at L-1, don't you think they'd claim?
And now you've completely derailed the point.
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This is such a scummy post for so many reasons:Parama, 281 wrote:xvart wrote:the fact that Parama isn't voting someone that isconfirmed scum
0_0
So you agree that CooLskins is confirmed scum.1
Even though, technically, he isn't. I just toss around the term haphazardly like a boss.2
xvart... why do you think CooLskins is confirmed scum?
0_o
Do you know something I don't?
Do you know something that the town doesn't?3
1You know damn well the context of the post is me speaking from your expressed viewpoint.
2Yet you still call him confirmed scum in this very post and back off of it because his being confirmed scum isn't his fault. Also, even if you throw it around "like a boss" the implication is still more than a casual scum read. Plus, I don't even see really see why you believe he was confirmed scum other than he double RVSed with Beck and some cursory responses to CooLskins. Can you elaborate on what double RVSing means and why this indicates if how one of them is scum?
3This final string of questions is just laughable at your attempt to undermine me by saying I was the one that called CooLskins confirmed scum couldn't be more obvious.
sup 1: no, I don't. If you don't have quotation marks around it, or if it's not in a quote box, you're the one saying it, buddy.
sup 2: yeah, and I have several serious scum reads. I never have casual scum reads. I had a serious scum read on Hrezs the day before but Beck was worse. I was wrong about Beck. Oh well. I'm right about Hrezs. There's no way I'm not right.
sup 3: this is based off me supposedly misinterpreting you, which is completely and wholly your fault.
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Well I actually said your response was town because I was expecting a more flame fest with you accusing your attackers with an early wagon (which is ironic because that seems to be what you are doing now). And I really like your sensationalized account of don and I and are apparent "argument." Also, it should be apparent why I believe you to be scum which is equally interesting since you just railed on someone for not reading your posts to find your case; so either you are just trying to make me seem like I don't know what I'm doing or you are hoping I back down to your wheee authority.Parama, 282 wrote:your ISO has one point about me, and also includes you saying I'm town
whereas you have a huge fight with don including a wall-o-text-war.
What makes me scummier than him, just wondering? Because, well, one, you're wrong, two, it doesn't look like you actually think that.
My response was town because you expected it to come from scum?
And I'm accusing my attackers? Oh no no no. I accused them BEFORE they attacked me, for starters. This is because I'm awesome. And are my points against Hrezs invalid? You've not given input on this, my good sir.
I skimmed the xvart/don lovefest. Too much pointless pointless.
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Gosh. Imagine my surprise that you aren't moving your vote off ofParama, 283 wrote:and nothing about why I'm scum. neato.you have nothing except this supposed "scumslip" which was just you misrepping me, and blatantly at that. excuse me while I refrain from moving my votesomeone who has claimed scumor refraining from voting someone who is confirmed scum. This is the sort of mudsligging/subtle threats I have come to expect from Parama scum.
???
I derailed his post with logic. His post lived in some fantasy world, and I brought it back to reality. No, I don't remember the post at all, but if that was my response, I can tell it sucked.
Hrezs claimed scum? Where?
I'm not refraining from voting someone who is confirmed scum? So I'm voting someone who is confirmed scum? Thanks for letting me know!
OH LOOK META. YEAH THAT ALWAYS WORKS. LOLOLOLOLOLO
(P.S. - your entire response is terribly worded, xvart. I honestly have no clue what you're trying to say other than in the last line.)
xvart wrote:Celebloki has a good catch. Given the context of and his voting pattern around this time makes this is a solid case and wagon. I'll keep my vote on Parama until Zodiark has a chance to respond but I don't see anything that could really convince me otherwise.
Why would you need to wait for a response? What in god's name is there to respond to? Zodiark was caught in a contradiction. There's literally no "explanation" or "response" to being a confirmed LIAR.
Hrezs wrote:I don't understand the zodiark wagon. Nothing he's done has struck me as scum. Not saying I read him as town, but I don't see the case against him.
"Now excuse me while I continue to not pay attention to the thread."
Hrezs + Zodiark is totally happenin'. It's so happenin' that I don't know how happenin' it is because I'm not happenin' enough to happen to know about its happenings.
Oh god I sound like such a loser.
Zodiark 323 - too lazy to quote, but the problem is obvious:
Taking those lines out of context doesn't mean a damn thing. They are polar opposites. In one, you say one thing. In the other, you argue the opposite.
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xvart wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Celebloki
I'm going to assume this was a typing error because nothing in your post indicates suspicion of Celebloki. Seems like this was SUPPOSED to be a Zodiark vote. Reading ahead I'll probably find you changing this vote, I suspect <.<
Hrezs wrote:I don't see zodiark being that careless as scum. I read it as him not having his head in the game and trying to get his feet wet as town.
Hrezs wrote:bob continues to be ridiculously scummy though
Humble Poirot wrote:bobsnox (4)- deselby, Haschel Cedricson, Hrezs, Zodiark13,
Haschel can you please GTFO this terrible wagon you're not even posting much anyways so...
CooLskins wrote:I do not like hrez's last post. Specifically the part about, "Bob is still be ridiculously scummy yet I have absolutely no case on him what so ever but I want to post this anyway so I look like I have reads"
Holy crap, you're not scum are you? I don't see scum bussing both of their buddies like this. Because, y'know, Hrezs and Zodiark are totally and completely in love with each other and will defend each other to the death.
Hrezs wrote:Or I'm town who thinks he's town?
I know, its a crazy idea to defend town reads, but you should try it sometime.
So then why do you think he's town?
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bobsnox wrote:deselby - why are you still voting me?
deselby wrote:unvote: bobsnox
vote: hrezs
hmm.
Eh...
...
Uh...
dammit.
This bugs me. A lot. Just the timing.
But the problem is, it's a logical vote switch following a logical post.
And it involves switching from probtown to scum.
ugh ugh this bug on my rug drank from a mug that it dug ugh.
xvart wrote:Oops. I just noticed my incorrect vote.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zodiark
caaaaaaaaaaallled it
I'm so pro
holy crap antihero is in this game?
Antihero wrote:Celebloki wrote:My name's been popular today.
AS IT SHOULD BE, you chucklehead.
You aren't reading the thread~
Antihero wrote:Celebloki wrote:@bobsnox Don's #335 did stand out to me. It paints Hrezs as scum either way for Zodiark and I agree with his statement. I am weary to to hop over as it would put Hrezs at L-1 and I am not necessarily ready to put him in a spot for a quick-hammer. I think Hrezs needs to claim though and is effectively at L-1.I'm willing to bet that Hrezs and Zodiark are scum buddiesand would be happy to see either lynched today.
Now, this is based on what?
You aren't reading the thread~
I mean holy hell Antihero even me being stupid and bored I still figured out why Celebloki is a bad vote and Zodiark is a wonderful one and Hrezs and Zodiark have a scummy relationship with each other.
I saw Hrezs buy Zodiark some roses yesterday... roses of DOOOOOOOM.
CooLskins wrote:Nice attempt at getting a counter-wagon started to try and protect your two scumbuds, antihero.
I could totally see this, but I feel the problem lies in Antihero being too lazy to read, kinda like me, except now I HAVE read so
I'm not interest in Anti/Cele's lovefest so post ends here.
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Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:Yeah, because town have no reason not to RVS. Scum avoid it out of "caution lul" but that never works.
I have RVS'd once in my mafia career. I was mafia then. I don't do it because I hate it.
Oh hey meta. IDGAF.
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:Is that REALLY what you're fixating on in this post? You've said nothing on most of my posts, just quoted them for god knows why, and then you come to a post NOT about you and ask an irrelevant question that anybody with a goddamn brain would realize is a stupid question because it requires someone WITHOUT a brain to ASK THE GODDAMN QUESTION?
...repeating stuff about don = repeating stuff about don that others have said and used as an argument against don.
I had no reason to say anything about them because they said nothing. Literally nothing.
And when have I EVER mentioned don?
Oh.
My.
God.
Just to let you know, the start of this quote tunnel was something directed mostly at ZODIARK.
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Hrezs wrote:Did some light skimming, I don't like Parama
Holy hell, Zodiark's 242 sucks. "Yay, lemme repeat stuff about don that's already been said. Don't mind me, I don't feel like mentioning the other 9 players at all. Just want to push this wagon. Bye!"
^the feeling I'm getting.
I have a feeling you only read that part because it came right after my one-smiley response to your worthless post.
You then responded to it saying
Hrezs wrote:Repeat stuff about don?
which is what triggered my response.
I figured out what's happening here, though - your reading comprehension is SO BAD that you thought a post directed at ZODIARK was directed at you.
OR... DOES THAT, BY CHANCE, MEAN THAT THE TWO NAMES ARE INTERCHANGEABLE?
YEAH, IT DOES. HREZS/ZODIARK SCUMTEAM 100% CONFIRMED DIE DIE DIE.
which of them has a bigger wagon atm? I'm jumping on that one.
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:But this is not what you said.
It was anti-town. The fact that they go together (in addendum to other stuff I didn't like about you) gives more relevence to the anti-townness of the post
But this is not what you said what you said what you said...
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:your piss poor responses are the most laughable thing I've read all day.
piss poor responses to piss poor arguments. You get what you give
And here we have Hrezs admitting that his posts are terrible. Oh god. That's just...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahhaaahaaaa.....
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Anyone with a brain should realize that bob is pretty much confirmed town at this point.
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don if I gave you any more hints it'd be anti-town posting. just accept that bob is town and move on with your life.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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The point is, it is anti-town for me to explain. Do some sleuthing or let the issue drop. I will never support a bobsnox lynch.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Parama wrote:Celebloki wrote:Zodiark13 wrote:Hammering a claimed OSV less than a week since the start of the day just because the claimed OSV is a VI = scum
Zodiark13 wrote:And honestly, hammering a VI is hardly a massive scumtell.
Vote: Zodiark13
oh hey. a contradiction. Zodiark gets to be lynched either today or tomorrow. Take your pick.
There's literally no reason to elaborate.
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Celebloki made the only case I care about. I literally see no reason for further discussion.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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You contradicted yourself. There's no reason not to lynch you.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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I'll just keep waiting...
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Nice try Zodiark, but that's not a contradiction. bobsnox is just bad at words or something.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Zodiark13 wrote:Parama wrote:Nice try Zodiark, but that's not a contradiction. bobsnox is just bad at words or something.
Quick to defend scumbuddies. Noted.
OH CRAP BOBSNOX HE CAUGHT ON
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This isn't a valid point because if Parama hard core bussed someone D1 in every single game where he was scum he would be catching heat every single time he was vocal and sure of himself on a D1 scum lynch.bobsnox, 476 wrote:The last game I played with him, he bussed one of his buddies from the get go and then another one later in the game (IIRC) with little provocation. He also thinks I'm a horrible player. If we were both scum, I'd be dead by now.
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You have an hour to post a case. Because at this point in time you've said NOTHING about me.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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So right now we have all the smart people voting Zod, Zod trying to get bobsnox lynched, one of his scumbuddies in the neighbors assisting him, and the other neighbor being stupid. And havingfitz is making a fail and wasting his vote.
When Zodiark flips scum, I'm going to find out which of the neighbors is his buddy. Should be easy enough. Seeing the wagon now, no way in hell both neighbors are town.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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deselby you need to vote
Haschel's replacement you need to join the game :<ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Bwahahaha, dj's definitely the scum neighbor. "I think bobsnox is scum, and I think Parama is scum by association, so let me lynch the player who I feel is scum by association instead of the one who I feel is scum for actual reasons."
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I never claimed VT. DJ, I don't think you're reading correctly.
FTR tracker is a less safe claim for mafia than cop is.
You don't think there's a scum neighbor because you are the scum neighbor and by emphasizing that you think your neighbor is town you're trying to draw attention away from the neighborhood and decrease the likelihood of you getting lynched. Well that plan failed. I never did say anything about xvart being scum, by the way.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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shocking awe.
vote: don_johnson
points from yesterday still stand, especially in light of recent flips.
Also,Mod: Can you please bump the thread when day officially starts? I'm not sure when you unlocked the thread but when you edit posts people tend not to see them.
*I deemed a bump unnecesary when I sent private messages to all of you announcing the day start with a link to the post.
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I may actually compile some sort of DJ case soon. I may not. We'll see.Last edited by Humble Poirot on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Mod wrote:*I deemed a bump unnecesary when I sent private messages to all of you announcing the day start with a link to the post.
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Didn't get this, so....
* My bad. I drafted and never sent it. No wonder people weren't posting. Thanks for letting me know. -HP
xvart. I don't think you're scum. I think DJ is. I haven't even said anything about one neighbor being scum for sure today. I'm pretty much set on DJ being the scum between the two of you.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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It's not that I think there's one cum in the neighborhood due to that fallacy.
it's that I think there' one scum in the neighborhood because I have a strong scumread in the neighborhood <.<
Though neither neighbor being on the Zod wagon yesterday helps my theory anyways :/ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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and this is why I should be rereading, honestly. soooo lazy, I am.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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