Mini 1221: Vegas Mafia (Over!)

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TS you are going to have to throw aside your notions about DH/Ank/Case being town because of the D1 blow up. That could have happened to any alignment. Hell, it'd be quite good if it was scum just for those reasons.

Also, the animosity between nocase and maruchan in the last few pages reads as very fake and possibly set up to create a feeling of differing alignments. Also, Nocase's LOLBPCLAIM is very typical and very scummy.

THank you for actualyl explaining your vote (at least slightly)

Link, no matter what tonight, I think you need to test the bulletproof claim.

If he's town he had no reason to lie, if he's scum BAM. byebye


wait scratch that, if we tell you to go after him scum will also for a double-hit on him. UGH.

I hate that scum can see us talk but we cant see them. -.- being town is so hard.

Do you realize how scummy you sound?

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Almost every post Maruchan makes is scummy, so honestly if I were to quote wall him it'd take too much time.

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Can someone provide me with links to the end of each day? :3

Whoever does gets browneh pointz

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lol ok enjoy getting lynched

gg

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Maruchan, vote nocase now or get lynched tomorrow.

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lynch me tomorrow. I like to wait for replies to questions kaithnx

Responding with a challenge is scummy because of where the game is at. It is not a genuine and pro-town response to say "hey, lynch me leeewwlszz!" when we're probably in mylo. Second sentence is a case of disingenuousness and ultimately a pointless stance of "sticking to your principles" - this falls flat because we're utterly beyond any trivial bullshit you have to offer. "You like to do X" is a way of establishing any town reads players may have on you while attacking me. A scummy post.

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Okay. Next question. Where do we stand on TS? If I were to be killed tonight and flipped Vig, would that be enough to indicate to you that TS is lying? I don't ask that because I think it'll happen to night, I ask because I feel like you and I can have a real discourse tomorrow about Maruchan or TS and I don't want to take the chance that we can't have that discussion because I'm killed tonight. Just a precaution, as I'm sure you understand.

I probably will be killed tonight after we lynch Scumcase. I was serious about what I said about TS. I will never post on MS again if he's scum. But in order to more properly understand your question I need to review the night deaths (its a bitch going through the thread).

Mafia Roleblocker + Mafia Goon + Mafiasomethingstrong

I have a partially fucked up reason for suspecting Maru + Case, but I'd rather not say. And no, I will not say more about that.

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Yes, I know he has points, but his gameplay of "fuck you you're scum i don't have to do anything for you" makes me react to him in manners I seem appropriate for the situation. AS has been demonstrated.

Scumslip

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explain?

Concern instead of mockery

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Explain better please? I still don't quite see it

Grasping desperately at any attempt to discredit me. Already realizing what my stance is towards information is and is seeing it as 'unfair', he grasps and grasps for any sort of hold on the situation.

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@HL

Maruchan has worked very hard the last few pages to stay in line with his established meta - but thats just it. He's tried. Its fake.

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Anka reading the thread. Lewls.

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My theory is Mafia Doctor. I won't ask you to say anymore, but please just consider the possibility of TS scum. ANd if you vote him tomorrow and he flips scum, I certainly am not going to hold you to never posting again. We'll burn that bridge when we come to it, but don't let your faith in him be too absolute. If you acknowledge me as town, you really should consider that he may be scum

I'm not big on the mafia doc theory. Doesn't feel balanced.

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The more information I give him, e.g the more I explain myself about my reads - the more he has to work with and bullshit with. And he has as good as called me scum a few times the last few pages with his refusal to accept me as confirmed town. I dont see dickish at all. I see fake bravado.

There are subtleties to the read. I agree that he has more or less been scummy the entire game. Its just that when he contradicts his nature and generally exhibits strange motivations I am pointed towards a scumchan conclusion.

Did we have a double kill night besides reg+emp? Cant remember

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@Link - When everyone agrees on something, its confirmed. Everyone has said I'm town now, more or less.

1. Zdenek - CONFIRMED Vanilla Townie
2.Regfan - CONFIRMED 2 shot tracker
3. don_johnson - CONFIRMED Vanilla Townie
4. Hellhound1 CLAIMED TOWNIE
5. Timeater - CONFIRMED Vanilla Townie
6. Hikari Link CLAIMED VIG
7. hahonryuu - CONFIRMED Vanilla Townie
8. nintendoaddict1 - CONFIRMED Strong Doctor
9. Empking - CONFIRMED Vanilla Townie
10. Twistedspoon CLAIMED DOC
11. The Tick - CONFIRMED Scum
12. Maruchan CLAIMED TOWNIE
13. Nocase - CLAIMED TOWNIE (but first one-shot-bp lol)

The setup:

Oddnight Vig
Normal Doc
Strong Doc
2 Shot Tracker
6 VTs

Mafia Goon
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia X

SK was a red herring originally devised by me (directed at tick) as a device to see how the mafia responded to the possibility, and if they would exploit it and how far they would exploit it. Pretty sure there is no SK in this game.

Nocase is a good lynch considering he fucked up his claim and how he LOL FLAILED after I brought down the TE-heat on him.

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I posted the setup because I believe Nocase realized that bulletproof would be WAY OVERPOWERED for the town considering what MOST LIKELY have in the game.

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edwop: what we*

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You're being obtuse. Semantics. I know how it works. I'm telling you how I feel. Towniness is about shared belief systems and trust.

And haven't you learned anything about me? I am not afraid to throw around my vote. What I say and what I really think at any given time may be radically different.

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I'll play it by ear to the best of my non troll abilities

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TS explain your general scumminess the past few pages or so.

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TS I saw you reading the thread bra

UNVOTE

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Naw, I think I'll hammer.

TS you have to admit you've gotten scummier as the day has dragged on. Your play is radically different from how it was D1/2. Its not all fatigue. You seem willing to go along with anything, and are ready to back me up where previously you were usually pretty solid in your own stances.

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Maru is on-site, lets see what he does.

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VOTE: Nocase

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why the

FUCK

wouldnt his vote count?

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um if that vote isnt accepted ender can blow me

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You really know how to ruin an epic hammer TS

jerk

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GG HURRR BULLETPROOF CLAIM

Bye mafiascum, it was fun.

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WOW TS I AM LISTENING TO THAT SONG RIGHT NOW TOO

JERK. (but seriously, why did nocase lie - why god why)

Maybe I'll play again in a year

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It doesnt, im just butthurt I didnt fight the powa hard enough

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Was nocase lying contradicting his previous player with a fakeclaim grounds for a lynch?

Or was I stupid?

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We would have won if nocase didn't fakeclaim tbh

simple as that

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doubt it, you were suffering hard from scum fatigue

there was no reason for him to lie and he did, which is lolautolynch material