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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 18, 2002 5:31 am

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Just confirming that I got the pm.

~I'm starting to wish I wasn't in Australia at the moment so that I could join you in the pub. I could do with a good solid rum at the moment. Only a bottle or so, I mean, I wouldn't want to overload on it or anything... :wink: ~
And btw, I notice you changed your signature Mackay. Was it really that funny a comment? Oh well, thanks for the complement. :D
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Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 19, 2002 1:50 am

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Thanks for the complement, Lucresia. I like your sig too... :wink:
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Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:35 am

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Hey Roadbird, not only did you not invite me to your virtual pub, despite my obvious hints at wanting to come drink with you guys (and also crack jokes about Mackay's
rye bread
...), but now you're throwing a vote my way? :(
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Post Post #37 (isolation #3) » Sun Aug 18, 2002 3:56 am

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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Oh ye-ah, oh ye-ah, mafiascum is ba-ack!
Oh ye-ah, Oh ye-ah, I'm now back as we-ell!

(Too bad we still gotta wait another week or so until Cadmium comes back from his holiday)
But who cares!!!!
w00t

Oh ye-ah, oh ye-ah, mafiascum is ba-ack!
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Post Post #43 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:50 am

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WOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!

I am soooooo there, I could do with a little alco-mo-hol at the moment.
POUR ME TWENTY TEQUILAS, BARKEEP!!!!!!

(and then I'll give them all to you guys because I don't really drink tequila anymore, I just wanted to say that line. :P )
And as for me, I'm going to have some Amaretto, because, you know, I hear it goes well with
rye bread
...
*Sits down at the table for the game of strip poker and screams "
LET'S ALL GET NEKKED!
"* :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Post Post #52 (isolation #5) » Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:32 am

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POI ppl,

So far only Corsato and Macros have not posted since mith returned mafiascum to us. I'm sure they're well aware of the game and are still in, but to save a bit of time for when Cadmium gets back, just checking to see if everyone is still in the game, or will we have to get replacements? :)
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Post Post #61 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 26, 2002 4:25 pm

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continuing sounds good to me. :)
Alright then, since as I mentioned earlier Macros is now the only person who hasn't posted recently (Howdy Corsato, welcome back) I'm going to:
Vote: Macros

And before anyone says it, I know that Macros already has one vote against him, but this will just inspire him moreso to re-join the table.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:54 am

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Yay! :D Our glorious mod is back!
And
why
do we love him so?
Cause he's so brave and STROOOOOOONG.

*ahemhackcoughwheeze*
Sorry about that, got caught up in the moment...

[edit] so that I can learn how to spell MOD :oops: :wink: [/edit]
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Post Post #70 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:09 am

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After re-reading the last batch of posts a few times I'm going to:
Unvote: Macros
(I didn't have any real reason, anyway)
and
Vote: The Accountant

Roadbird had a point about The Accountant's nit-picking.
Plus, I was going to change my vote anyway because Mr.-Hands-Off-The-Material-Accountant was trying to set too many RULES in the Virtual Pub.
:P
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Post Post #77 (isolation #9) » Thu Aug 29, 2002 6:31 am

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Alright, Accountant.
I must admit, your story does sound convincing.
So, for the moment, I'll let up and
unvote: Accountant
.
But I'm still keeping an FOS on you, although I... have... no real reason to... oh well.

La la la la...
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Post Post #82 (isolation #10) » Fri Aug 30, 2002 4:13 am

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Seeing as how:

a.) This isn't the final vote for Macros, so he still has a chance to defend himself (if he wants to).
b.) I too want this day to end soon.
and c.) I originally had Macros voted for being silent, so this isn't all that new to me.

I'm going to
Vote: Macros
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Post Post #90 (isolation #11) » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:58 am

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Argh, all this new information that I didn't realise before. :o

Well, before I do anything, and before Macros unjustly gets the boot, ie. mafia jump on the bandwagon and bang the final nail in his coffin (if he is innocent of course); I'm going to make it a little safer and
Unvote: Macros


Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to re-read the thread and think about just what's going on here.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #12) » Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:24 am

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Ok, here goes.
I now very strongly agree with Lucresia.

I mean, there is still the chance that Arminger was just doing the honourable thing, despite the information he was given, by forfeiting his role back to Warrior.

But the part that really doesn't make any sense, other than the possibility that Mackay is mafia, is why she wanted to start a bandwagon so quickly on Arminger, as Lucresia said.

There is still the chance that Mackay was just random voting Arminger to get the game going in the beginning, but there are just too many coincidences for this to be the case.

What this comes down to is that I'm going to
Vote: Mackay


I think it's the best reasoning we've had so far, and I'm looking forward to finishing the day off with one killed mafia. :)
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Post Post #95 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:41 pm

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Ok then Mackay, you too put up a pretty good defense.
You explained the reasoning behind your actions towards Arminger. But you didn't succesfully explain what Arminger's reasoning could be for HAVING to pull out of the game. True, only Arminger can offer that information, but you didn't even register that in you last post.

I have to agree with Macros on this one:
Macros wrote:im going to
vote Mackay

if she was innocent, arminger knowing her role shouldn't cause problems
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Post Post #96 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:04 pm

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Mackay wrote:actually I didn't realise he'd signed up and TOLD him my abilities


Now, if you were innocent Mackay, and you told Arminger your abilities, as you say above, there wouldn't be any big problem for Arminger to play. That is, unless you were worried about him being mafia. But then, if that were the case then he probably would have killed you the first night, especially seeing as how you claim to be a doc-type role. That kind of thing would be very useful for mafia to get out of the way.
Therefore I conclude that Warrior (ex-Arminger) is innocent, which makes your defense look very suspicious.

And one more thing. In saying that you are a First Aid Trainer, you are claiming to be a secondary doc-type character. Now, it seems kind of strange to me for there to be two doc-type roles in one mini-game...
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Post Post #106 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:51 pm

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:?
I confused.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 02, 2002 1:13 pm

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Hey Bird, where you been? Boy did you miss out on the fun.

We got scum!

Anyway, *returns to pub, sits at the bar with all the other boozers, and begins to order one Bloodclot after another. After several drinks in a very short time period eyes start to blur and body starts to sway.*
*holds up glass and speaks with incredible slur*

"Thisssssh one'sssh for Mackay. She may 'ave bin a dirty rotten Mafia, *HIC* but sssshe made one HELLLLLL of a rye bread! ( :wink: ) May she rot in peassssh."
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Post Post #122 (isolation #17) » Sat Sep 07, 2002 3:19 pm

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Alright, ppl, we need to get this game going again. But seeing how there was no-one really defending Mackay (that evil mafia scum!) we'll have to find other sources to go on.

Looking at ppl who didn't vote for Mackay we find Mentat, Roadbird and Warrior4037 (discluding Corsato, as he didn't vote for anybody).
As far as this list goes, it is pretty safe to say that Warrior is innocent (as Mackay was guilty, and the whole Arminger debacle and such and such), so therefore it is now down to Mentat and Roadbird. Since I have nothing further to go on
for the moment
I'm going to say that RNG said 2, so:

Vote: Roadbird


Alright, Roadbird, defend yourself.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 12, 2002 4:24 pm

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down everyone. Warrior, there's no need to get all bent out of shape over something as trivial as someone's playing style.
Corsato, thank you for your brilliant words of wisdom. Let me see how I can adequately express my thanks for this tip: "DUH!!!" I've played this game before, I know how to win. I just find it interesting that you constantly change your vote seemingly without reason, except to "put a little pressure on them" This would seem logical, except that the change is so constant, as in nearly every time I log in, you are voting for someone new. So if you can convince me that I should vote for someone else, I'll vote for them. But for now my vote stands

And I also don't believe in the whole 'sacrificial lamb' scenario, where one mafia member volunteers to take a striking blow being LED by one of his own, just for the greater good. No one would be stupid enough to volunteer for something like that, especially so early in a game:

but he was the one who first voted for Mackay. Now I know what you're all thinking, "Mackay was Mafia", but what if he's just randomly voting for people until he gets around to voting for the people that he actually thinks are mafia, so that it doesn't look like he's mafia, and convincing everyone else to follow his lead. On the basis of this argument
vote: corsato


If I didn't know any better I'd say that you are using mafia strategy, but seeing as how you all but confirmed innocent because of the whole Arminger/Mackay debacle I'm not going to vote for you. There is, however, ANOTHER reason why I'm not going to vote for you.
Since all that is going on at the moment is a whole lot of "
this
person is quiet, therefore I'm going to vote for
this
person" and then
this
person replies with the whole "I'm not quiet, I have my reasons,
you
suck, therefore I'm going to vote for
you
."
Granted, most of the time this is how mafia is played, unless a character (or more) reveals their role(s). So this is what I'm going to do. I wasn't going to say anything as if I am correct then it would almost surely get me killed off tonight, but I'm going to take my chances.

In case it hasn't been noticed, I've kept my vote on Roadbird for a while now, and there is a reason. Since claiming cop is the obvious, I'm going to tell you more detail. I am a Police Chief, specialising in gang-related crimes. This entitles me to a normal, investigativetype role. On night one, I investigated The Accountant, and found out he was guilty. If you'll notice, this is why I was eager to vote off Accountant in the early days. But then with the whole Arminger/Mackay thing I quickly changed to Mackay as it started becoming obvious towards the end, of her guilt, and Accountant's innocence. This left me to think that I was either paranoid or insane. But, on night 2 I decided to investigate Roadbird, for the reason stated in my earlier post. From this I found out that he was innocent. Since I had 2 conflicting outcomes from 2 different investigations I believe I am an insane cop and that Roadbird really is in fact GUILTY. I hope everyone chooses to believe me and follows suit, but if not then I understand, I would be a little hesitant as well. But, if we are going to get the day over with then someone must be lynched, and I STRONGLY believe that Roadbird would be a wise choice. Even so far as to say that if I am wrong, then, please, feel free to lynch me on the next day. But for the time being, I implore you all, let's weed out all the mafiascum.
Strongly confirm vote: Roadbird
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Post Post #156 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:13 am

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Hey Roadbird, you made one little mistake in your defense:
Roadbird wrote:First of all I believe your role. But I really think you misinterpretated your role. I will tell you why you as gang-related inspector found The Accountant quilty and me innocent:
...
You found The accountant guilty because he's part of a gang. You found me innocent because I'm not part of a gang. You are perfectly sane only you didn't read your results the right way.

I never actually said I was a gang-related inspector. What I said was that I was a police chief specialising in gang-related
crimes
. Last I checked being a doctor doesn't really express criminal activity. Therefore my accusation still holds, and I don't really see any other possibility. But, if you can come up with anythnig, please feel free to try it out.
Otherwise,
die scum die
!!! :twisted:
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Post Post #169 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 16, 2002 4:07 am

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Well, he may not have been mafia, but still I say, good riddance. We don't need no stinkin corruptor on the force...
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Post Post #188 (isolation #21) » Sat Sep 28, 2002 11:44 pm

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Hi everyone, I'm back (and on the injured list as well IRL).
And it looks like I came back at just the right time.

Firstly, I'm not going to say anything about my night results yet unless the person I investigated starts to slip up, because after thinking about it, I'm not entirely sure of my sanity any more. After Roadbird was killed we were told that he was in fact a corrupt cop
with the abilities to plant drugs on us and tamper with our guns
. Therefore he had the ability to make good cops look bad. And by the looks of things, everyone has a role that corresponds to someone else's role, so this means, what if there are more players out there with ability-altering... um... abilities. (That really doesn't sound right...)

Anyway, I think for the time being I'm going to wait and see if anyone
else
has any supposed corroborating evidence on someone. :)
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Post Post #195 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:02 pm

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Don't worry everyone, I'm still here. The only reason I didn't post in a while is because I was away for a few days. But now that I'm back I'm RARING to go!!! :D

And it doesn't really sound like we have anything to go on for the moment, and neither do I, so this time I think I'm just going to follow the crowd so that we may actually finish this day relatively soon.

Therfore I'm going to
Vote: Macros


If you are innocent Macros and you still get lynched, then I apologise, but this game needs to get moving somehow. I mean, we can't keep believing that EVERYONE is innocent, or else town would have won by now. Ok, I'll stop rambling now... :)
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Post Post #203 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:39 pm

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Alright ppl, we seem to be going around in circles a fair bit lately. So here's an idea. Lets do this by process of elimination.

Seeing as how all of us
claim
to be cops, including the mafia, then I'm guessing most of us have some kind of investigative ability. So, rather than build up an almost lynch against someone and then someone else comes up with something to stop us, what say we try to do this the other way around, just as long as enough of us come online within the next few days.

What I propose is that everyone provides their OWN knowledge as to who they believe is innocent, and if possible who they believe to be guilty. I'll be the first to do this kind of list and others can follow suit, and by the end we should be able to piece them all together and work out someone we are all happy to lynch off. Except the person being lynched, of course.

So lets look who's left:

BigFella (myself) - innocent (to my knowledge :wink: )
Corsato - ?
Lucresia - ?
Macros - ?
Mentat - ?
Quercitron - ?
Warrior4037 - innocent (pretty much a given because of the whole debacle, blah blah.)

Now someone else give this try. But no one should do the whole "I believe this person is innocent because of the way they've been acting". We're basically just looking for cold hard facts. You never know, we might be able to weasel out the mafia yet. :D
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Post Post #204 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 02, 2002 11:43 pm

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Oh and one more thing. Of course everyone is going to consider THEMSELVES innocent, but for the moment that kind of stuff is ALL just speculation.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:23 pm

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Hey, I just noticed something.

Ok, although role-claiming is still pretty important, at the moment there is something else striking a nerve. So far there has been a lot of talk about "this person is guilty" and "this person is innocent" that practically everyone has been investigated (by the looks of what everyone else is posting).

Everyone except one.

It seems that whenever we try to agree on who to vote for at least one person will step forward and say something like "but I investigated them and they were innocent..."
But so far no one has mentioned anything about QUERCITRON.

Oooooooh, I totally agree with Corsato and his arguments now.
VOTE: Quercitron
silent-but-deadly mafiascum!
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Post Post #222 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:34 pm

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And another thing. His role-claim really isn't all that plausible, and neither is his defense really.

quercitron wrote:Yeah, I was somewhat surprised as well. Consider, though, that we've figured out the Mafia could possibly plant drugs via a Corrupt Cop who appeared innocent. The narcs can not only catch bad guys but cause all sorts of havoc. I think Cadmium didn't want his narc dying first night and eliminating that part of the game, so he put me in.


Why not? GLpenguin died first night and he was able to examine peoples guns AND tell us what gun the mafia used each night in their killing (or something along those lines). To me that sounds like a pretty cool role to keep wanting to run in the game, and yet it doesn't seem that there is an -in-training version of that...

I think we may have caught our scum. :twisted:
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Post Post #233 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 09, 2002 4:20 am

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*yay town*
Well-played everyone. And thanks MUCHLY to Cadmium for modding, it was a really fun game.

One thing for quercitron, well-played right until the very end. I didn't even THINK of suspecting you at all until right at the very end. And even then it was only because of your lack of suspicion being your downfall.

Oh, and did I mention well-played to everyone? :P

Anyway, I just have one question. Just who was the person who could count their vote as double, or vote silently or whatever? And what did your role entail?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:46 am

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Sorry about that RoadBird. The reason is beacause if I said what I really got then there would have been no reasoning behind me voting you. And the reason I went for you is because I've done my research. I looked up other games you were in and noticed that when you're a good (or non-bad) role, you play REALLY well. But so far in this game you started to slip up with a few things in the way you posted. That and the fact that at the time someone needed to get the ball rolling, it was all going a little slowly.
But seriously, it was mainly just a really strong hunch I had. And I figured, hey, who ever said that you have to be mafia to use mafia tactics? :wink: Sorry about that.
:cry: *begging* No hard feelings???????
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