Mini 1318 - This Little Town (Game Over!)

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:06 pm

Dude, I'm sooooooo glad to be playing a mafia game again after a month-long tiger invasion. Anyway,

vote: Kdowns

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #30 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:03 am

In post 22, MusicNinja wrote:
In post 15, kdowns wrote:I love to be wagon'd against, but COUNTER WAGON AHOY

MusicNinja

Oh no you don't
VOTE: kdowns

Okay I really don't like this post at all. After not voting in the RVS, immediately votes for the largest counter-wagon after getting some votes on. I really don't like that again, but I'm not going to be the idiot to put him at L-1 on page 2.

HoS: MusicNinja

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #34 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:24 am

In post 31, mastin2 wrote:Actually, Music's at L-3, right now. As is kdowns.

Does that change anything for you, Bub?

Oops, I was looking at the wrong wagon on that vote count.

unvote; vote: MusicNinja

Kortul wrote:I am a bit confused by your second "I really don't like" - you really don't like the post (again?), or is this somehow related to your selfrestriction on the vote on MusicNinja?

I was just reiterating the fact that I don't like that post.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #56 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:29 pm

Why do you think Music is town Mastin?

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:39 pm

That sounds really WIFOM-y to me.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #95 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:46 pm

In post 51, Internet Stranger wrote:
Vote: MusicNinja

He thinks he is being all clever and shit, but people with stupid gimmicks like this are more distracting than anything else. If he is dcum, great. If he is town, he deserves death anyways for giving the scum a chance to hide.

I assume he got kicked in the head too many times during kung fu training. Fuck any conversation, hang that fool and we start again tomorrow. I am not going to discuss the merits of this gimmick. Just hang him, move on and have him serve a lesson to all the gimmick monkeys out there. Stupid shit like this doesn't work.

vote: IS

IS was voting for the "scum claim" and then just covering his ass by saying that even if MN was town, he deserved death. This post rings of scum knowing that the lynch is town.

I'm not buying the case on UberNinja.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #114 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:54 am

I seriously doubt that mastin is scum. To me, it seems like he spent all night working on that massive wall post. Scum are usually busy talking with their teammates during the night, usually the ones doing that kind of post-night analysis are vanilla townies.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #130 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:56 am

UberNinja wrote:
In post 95, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 51, Internet Stranger wrote:
Vote: MusicNinja

He thinks he is being all clever and shit, but people with stupid gimmicks like this are more distracting than anything else. If he is dcum, great. If he is town, he deserves death anyways for giving the scum a chance to hide.

I assume he got kicked in the head too many times during kung fu training. Fuck any conversation, hang that fool and we start again tomorrow. I am not going to discuss the merits of this gimmick. Just hang him, move on and have him serve a lesson to all the gimmick monkeys out there. Stupid shit like this doesn't work.

vote: IS

IS was voting for the "scum claim" and then just covering his ass by saying that even if MN was town, he deserved death. This post rings of scum knowing that the lynch is town.

I'm not buying the case on UberNinja.

This (hilarious) post practically confirms Bub Bidderskins as town.

Wait, what's so funny about that?

Oversoul wrote:Internet Stranger,
Vanilla Townie
, killed Night 1.

Oh

.

unvote

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #131 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:06 am

In post 129, The Mini-Librarian wrote:
Uberninja wrote:Mini-Librarian, you say #109 by pecan is useless, but you make no mention of his #117. What do you think of that?
Also, who are your scum suspects? I haven't gotten a feeling about who you feel is scum, except for Mastin.

117 was highly unconvicing mainly for the reasons vijay already mentioned. Pecan's play had not been very helpful up to that point, just a reads list and a bunch of whining that we were focusing on the wrong person. Vijay had already placed placed a vote and gave reason for it, something far more useful than anything pecan ever did. (I also don't buy pecan's explanation about 109. The post serves nothing except to try and get our attention away from the two main wagons.)

All in all, I'm suspicious of pecan because his play today reeks of a chainsaw.

He basically yells at us to ignore Mastin and UN, while directing our attention to someone else. If this isn't chainsaw behavior...

As for your second question, if you actually read my post you should know I suspect Mastin, Fitz and Pecan.

A chainsaw is only a chainsaw if it's with a scumbud. Who do you think pecan is chainsawing?

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #163 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:19 pm

MOD: V/LA until Friday

I'll probably be able to post Thursday, but just in case...

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #164 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:24 pm

Vote: Kdowns

He was on the MN wagon. Later, he's said that Mastin is guaranteed scum, but then revealed that it was based on a weak meta tell. Regardless, he didn't vote for the person who he thought was "guaranteed scum".

Also noteworthy is the fact that the MN wagon was a counter to his own. That MN lynch wagon has at least one scum on it, most likely two (Kdowns and one scumbud).

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #205 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:42 am

Okay, I'm no longer on V/LA, catching up now.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #214 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:24 am

In post 178, kdowns wrote:
In post 164, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
Vote: Kdowns

He was on the MN wagon. Later, he's said that Mastin is guaranteed scum, but then revealed that it was based on a weak meta tell. Regardless, he didn't vote for the person who he thought was "guaranteed scum".

Also noteworthy is the fact that the MN wagon was a counter to his own. That MN lynch wagon has at least one scum on it, most likely two (Kdowns and one scumbud).

Bub, Most of my wagon on D1 was from RVS if I remember correctly. MN had claimed SCUM, which was the primary reason why I had voted him. Bub, you were also on the Lynch Wagon. So If you can point fingers right at me for that I will point back. Mastin seemed really scummy to me, but Mastin is really hard to read for me.

Yes, I was also on the lynch wagon. Yes, my vote was scummy. But that doesn't make your vote any less scummy? By attacking me for doing the same thing as you you are basically admitting that what you did was scummy. Simply saying "tee hee, you did it, too" is no defense.

In post 186, UberNinja wrote:
In post 178, kdowns wrote:
MN had claimed SCUM, which was the primary reason why I had voted him.

Great catch UN.

There is now literally no reason to not be voting Kdowns.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #230 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:23 am

In post 221, kdowns wrote:Get your votes off of me, I am a Town PR.

Fuck.

unvote

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #265 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:32 pm

Okay, I've done some thinking, and I'm going to:

vote: hiplop

The mastin wagon makes absolutely no sense to me, and hiplop has been on it all the way. Going into D-2, it was clear that the top to suspects were mastin and UN. Check out what hiplop does:

Hiplop wrote:VOTE: VOTE: UberNinja

Mastin is also a good bet, but going to pursue this for now. Mastin doesnt seem quite right. Granted he did make very strong points on uberninja, willing to go w/ this for now

also IS dying lends to my theory of MASTINSCUM

How's that for keeping your options open? And his reasons for voting mastin basically boil down to:

Hiplop wrote:mastin, you're scum and we all know it. No need to try and pretend

Which was interestingly part of an epic OMGUS that just happened right now. I'm not sure if it's technically an OMGUS since hiplop didn't vote (he was already voting for mastin) but this post seems really unnecessary and defensive.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #298 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:53 pm

Unvote; Vote: Vijay

If it's between Mastin and Vijay, then it's obviously got to be Vijay. How the hell is there even a wagon on Mastin? Anyway, this lynch is better than most, and much better than a no lynch.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #332 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:32 pm

unvote; vote: hiplop

Yeah, vijay's town. Somebody who accidentally quick hammers somebody isn't likely to catch a fake hammer on himself IMO.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #366 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:09 pm

Scum = caught

vote: pecan

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #378 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:05 am

I'm VT.

I don't think either UN or Mastin is mafia, so that means that there are three mafia in:

Charter
Librarian
Vijay
Having Fitz

Charter and fitz have both sorta fallen into the background for me, which makes me think they're possibly scum. Vijay and Librarian I don't know. Vijay's two hammers seems derpy as scum, but that's WIFOM. I've never had a solid read on librarian, though.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #395 (isolation #19) » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:43 pm

IMO, both mastin and charter's claims seem believable.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #405 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:17 am

The scumteam is: Vijay, Fitz, and Librarian unless my townreads on UN and Mastin are terribly wrong. I'm obviously comfortable lynching any one of those, but if it comes down to who we want to lynch first, I'd go in that order.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #411 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:22 pm

In post 409, vijay2vasandani wrote:3, 2, 1 quickhammer. Go.

That doesn't seem like townposting to me.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #415 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:26 am

Okay, random possibility floating through my head.

What if vijay is town and fitz and UN are scum with librarian trying to get a townie mis-lynch to win the game? My POE had a scumteam of fitz/vijay/librarian, but fitz' behavior towards vijay recently seems like he's scum trying to lynch town-vijay. I get this uneasy feeling that they're trying to coax one more townie vote to quickhammer vijay.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #431 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:54 am

Fuck, I was terribly wrong on my reads of UN and Mastin. Good game, you totally fooled me.

Bub Bidderskins · Post Post #434 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:37 pm

In post 433, UberNinja wrote:I felt like such a bad person; this was kinda like pushing an old person down a flight of stairs.

This town just... imploded.

That's what being mafia feels like.