Mini 1333: Terror in the Parlour (Game Over)

Tierce · Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:13 am

In post 1739, Nero Cain wrote:This is a good thing. Since I'm town and if you are town like you claim then that means scum is betwwen triangel, YYR and Zora.

What a fantastically useless note. Yes, that's obvious, but we need to lynch right today because it's LyLo.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:03 am

Seriously, let's get on with this.

VOTE: triangle123

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:57 am

UNVOTE: triangle123

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:02 am

No, fuck this. I'm tired of watching this thread like a hawk since I laid down that vote to have this guy come and lay down a second vote on someone like it's nothing.

zor was online today, didn't post, no sign of the other two. Town needs to unite and lynch, since a no-lynch means scum endgames at night.

And I am not uniting under that triangle lynch when Nero votes it.

VOTE: Nero Cain
I'll take responsibility if you're town, but seriously, wtf was that vote?!

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:03 am

It's likely Nero-triangle or Nero-YYR.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:17 am

I want you to vote with reasoning, of which you've given NONE so far. You are tossing votes down in LyLo like it's no big deal. That is NOT a town attitude. This is my first town LyLo, but I damn sure know the SCUM mindset. Scum don't worry about tossing votes down in LyLo because they are not risking losing the game outright. YOU are doing that. You're calling me town by saying that I am "tossing the game" when you so easily voted me a couple of days ago and GUARANTEED I was scum.

That's not going to fly. You have absolutely no reasoning for your attitude so far, you are not trying to figure out who are the remaining scum. Welcome to LyLo--you're a lazy scumbag and you're going to eat rope.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:35 am

Two-week deadline. You spent the day doing NOTHING. There is no evidence of any analysis done by you. You were prodded, came in, laid a reasonless vote on me, took it off when I badgered you about it. No explanation as to why I'm scum. You're doing the same with triangle. No, my issue is not that I "basically don't want you to vote". My issue is that YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR SCUM. It's glaringly evident.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:27 pm

...So you think that scum-Tierce would move from a townie (which from your PoV you should be) to plant a vote on ANYONE ELSE, with 24 to deadline?

Come on, triangle. I could have lurked this out in style as scum. The fact that I did not pretty obviously makes me town who is still going to have to deal with the game if there is a tomorrow. Whether or not Nero is scum, it should be evident that I am town.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:47 pm

More a reminiscence of feeling triangle is scum than them being viable as a pairing. Nero-YYR seems to fit--if Nero is scum, triangle is unlikely partner, and I really really think you're not scum with Code_X, so that's the remaining pair.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:48 pm

Look at us, being able to post at the same time when there's a vote on triangle! Hi zor, nice to be not-paired-scum with you.

So. triangle?

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:57 pm

If you two are scum then hat-tip etc. Just make this game end if that's the case, this is beyond painful and I want my evidence of Robbnva eating his hat.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:19 pm

*crosses fingers*

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:24 pm

Please just admit it if you two are scum. Don't leave me waiting until CFJ wakes up. ._.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:32 pm

Hell, I'd have gloated already, this is a normal game.

I mean, this doesn't mean that either of you can't be scum, I just want to know whether you are as a pair + Nero is town; I know I'm town, so if neither of you claims the win right now it means we lynched scum and have one more day.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:38 pm

Oh whew. First successful LyLo, Part 1 as Town. More to go through tomorrow. (And damn, does Nero draw scum a lot--have you looked through his game threads?)

It's a Nero-YYR team unless either of you bussed. It's unlikely but hell, this game I don't even.

HAI ROBBNVA. Prepare that hat.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:46 pm

Guys. If I die tonight, please, PLEASE go through the game from the beginning. It's not that much when you start discounting dead people. Don't let the game flow down to the last hours, if triangle is town, this was almost a disaster if I hadn't stayed awake to keep an eye on my vote. Start working early, read the game--you can pretty much ditch Robbnva's 20 pages, so hey, smaller game. Also: don't pay too much attention to each other's arguments tomorrow, because everyone's goal tomorrow is NOT TO BE LYNCHED. It's going to boil down to oratory if you let it, and for town to win, you CANNOT. Base your reads on all the game up until now, not on the events tomorrow.

K? If the scum hate me, they'll force me to go through this hell tomorrow myself; if they don't, see you on the other side and good luck town.

Now bed.

If you're both scum/one of you is scum with YYR and you are trolling me, there will be rage postgame, that's unnecessary taunting.

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:59 pm

There are no words for how much I loathe this game at this stage. Yes, happy that it's going to be a scumflip, happy that I'm essentially cleared as town due to today, but

hell

this game is a painful slog. Tomorrow has a lot more info and two cheerful townies coming from a scumlynch, which is good, though! ^_^

"We"? Who? zorottierce? We technically cannot be scum together, we would have quickhammered triangle--that's the pair that was ruled out (besides the fact that my role PM is town so ANYWAY). Failing to quickhammer

when we were both posting

would have been the worst quickhammer coordination since Buttons and whoever-it-was failed to quicklynch for 72 hours with a vote on a townie years ago. /tangent

Tierce · Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:10 pm

In post 1770, Tierce wrote:
If you're both scum
/one of you is scum with YYR and you are trolling me

Already mentioned it, and before this.

tl;dr: don't be mean. I already had to endure pages and pages of the Robbnva & Tierce Show with some misogynist bullshit thrown in, I think I deserve something good in this game. :/

Anyway bed. Please someone kill me tonight because askdfljg this game,

Tierce · Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:36 am

Oh yes.

But you should be familiar with it, since that's what

I

was put through today.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:14 am

What.

Heeeeh no. Let's no-lynch.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:22 am

Yes. Forcing the last scum to choose who to kill. None of us are confirmed (though I'm lolobvtown etc.), and in 3p LyLo we have better chances of figuring out who is the last scum.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:41 am

[vote}No Lynch[/vote]

Previous advice stands--reread the game from top to bottom, don't rush things, but take care not to leave them for the final 24h.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:41 am

VOTE: No Lynch

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:02 am

Whoever of you is the scumbag, if you're planning on no-killing again (...did you forget? xD), at least cut the night short. Three days for this was ridiculous.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:35 am

As could be intuited from my previous post, I did.

But don't use that as a measure. >.> 1) It makes me feel sick about game integrity and 2) it might be one of you two wanting to set up YYR.

Tierce · Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:57 am

In fact, if YYR wasn't around and triangle did send a message to cut night short, one of you might have chosen not to submit the kill, and YYR forgot, as town, to send a message in. It means nothing.

Tierce · Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:52 am

Oh fuck this game.

Go ahead and crossvote. No one who has seen me as scum would possibly see my play as scummy after Robb and after Nero. It's an insult if you think I would kill havingfitz when he had a standing counterclaim on my hypo-scumbuddy. I'm nothing if not extremely practical as scum.

Tired. Very much not going to read this today.

Tierce · Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:06 am

I am not nearly that convinced or aggressive as scum. That wasn't calculated, that was all-out "this guy is scum and needs to die".

Go read my scum games. Even in Paranoia

my magnum opus shut up I have low standards

, I didn't do particularly well with pseudo-1v1s--the extra knowledge makes my play all stunted when I'm scum.

And you have 50% chance of being very aware of this and leading me on. ...augh.

Tierce · Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:38 am

Not hammering.

Tierce · Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:43 am

You can crossvote now.

And fuck this game. This is going to be so painful. ;_; (Hey, I can AtE all I want now, I'm clear.)

Robbnva, I expect you to have that hat ready.

Tierce · Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:55 am

Btw I'm not really reading your posts from now on. This 'making cases on each other' at this stage is NOT the way I'll make up my mind--because to win, each of you needs me to hammer the other. Your motivations are EXACTLY the same at this moment, and so there is virtually no distinction between you; there's nothing that can actually be scumhunted. I'm going to go back and reread the game yet again, and hope that this time I don't make the same mistake and vote for a townie. Hopefully the answer lies there.

I emphatically hate being in this position.

Tierce · Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:57 am

Why did you spend so many words writing 1810 instead of crossvoting immediately, YYR?

Tierce · Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:30 am

I know. Stop harassing me sheesh.

(<3)

Tierce · Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:35 am

*twitch*

Tierce · Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:43 am

...

In post 1814, YYR wrote:VOTE: Zor

Real post in a bit.

Look, I did say I wouldn't be paying much attention to your posts, but... nothing? Nothing at all?

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:27 pm

Self-reminder to stop dawdling. Also analyze NKs, especially triangle's.

Tomorrow, hopefully. I want to free us all from this mess.

(Advantage of holding the hammer--I won't have to organize my notes to post them, regardless of what happens.)

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:49 pm

Oh god.

VOTE: YYR

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:50 pm

HALP.

Somebody. Anybody. Just hold my hand. .___.

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:20 pm

Really? Aw.

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:25 pm

I'm sorry, fwiw. :/

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:38 pm

At this stage, I'm just glad it's over. :/ This was far too painful a game. Congrats, zor.

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:50 pm

Heh. I'm not particularly fond of games in which my loss is punctuated by "well, at least that guy didn't win either", but frankly that's how I feel about him, his attitude and playstyle. Will be glad to move on and never have to deal with him again.

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:08 pm

Of the current 74 pages, Robb has about 20. It's not like you needed to read those.

Bleh. I tunnel too much on stupid play and get blind to obvious things. zor played well, and I'm sorry re: you, implosion, Oso and triangle, mostly. I'll revisit this one day, but yes, currently I'm glad it's over and done regardless of the results.

Tierce · Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:21 pm

I'm kind of proud of that one. I had a

you really can't be serious

moment over that vote on triangle. Good thing I kept an eye on the thread then, even if it is to end like this. Ah well.

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:19 am

S'okay, it's part of the game!

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:28 am

That makes sense re: fitz. I considered the chance that the killer thought he hadn't actually used his 1-shot cop (because declaring an innocent on a mason pair is something he could get away with even as town) and was afraid they'd be investigated that night. I didn't consider a full cop, since the claim was so convoluted and it made a lot more sense in this setup.

As it is, I'm reforming my views on masons--weak players being a mason group is actually a great tool for the town, because then the scum is forced to choose to lynch between good players and confirmed ones. Not that it was the case here, but it was something I mused on during the game.

Why the triangle kill?

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:42 am

Oh, and why the no-kill night? What were you cooking up with that? Hoping for votes in MyLo?

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:36 am

Grumble.

Good game, zor.

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:43 am

Partial reaction test. I thought she was scum, but the vote itself was placed deliberately at that stage, with time to go still. I was incredibly sleepy the whole day, yet managed to stay awake as long as possible so I'd keep an eye on it. Could have gone horribly wrong, but with 24h to go I was willing to gamble on it. As I said a few times, I was checked out on this game several game days ago--so bu that stage, I thought I might as well see where the pieces fell if I voted her.

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:43 am

Can we have the QTs?

Tierce · Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:59 am

In the dead thread, Robbnva wrote:I just hope Tierce doesn't get NK'd because nothing worse than a player who has played like shit all game and than gets lucky and now thinking they are god's gift to mafia....

I am sure tierce thinks she is the MVP of the game and she most certainly isn't

Kindly fuck off. I never said that and I definitely don't think it. Scum take who they want to LyLo, and it's my fault that I saw zor + YYR and called zor town. I didn't play particularly well this game, but I was on two of the scum lynches in the five lynch wagons I was part of, I

drove those lynches

, while you were voting town the first two days and didn't lynch Code_X. So no, you have no right to act like you're better than me. Town MVPs were Oso (even though those reads... >.>) and implosion, I'm not afraid to admit it. And you? You are a bad player and a misogynistic dick. Scum would probably have won before they did if you hadn't been lynched, and that is a terrible sign when it comes to the quality of your play.

That's all I'm saying on the subject.