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[Konowa]

Vote: xvart

Go-go-gadget wagon.

[Konowa]

unvote;
Vote: Robbnva

[Konowa]

I’m more inclined to think KageLord and rblinker are scum, especially after 23.

unvote;
Vote: KageLord

[Konowa]

"Gunning for his [KageLord] head" is quite an exxageration. Early pressure is good for just this reason, rblinkerscum is caught inbetween trying to decide whether people are still being random or being serious about his scumbuddy. So he waffles. Hard enough to make a Belgium proud.

KageLord's stance of "never be on a wagon" is ridiculously scummy, trying to stay away from blame/anything that can define you.
The whole "ABR is PR or scum" makes zero sense from a town mindset.

[Konowa]

KageLord's last post was nothing but noise.
KageLord, what do you think of rblinker's 23.

rblinker, my point exactly. Clearly early pressure is early and you talking out whether it was real or not is scummy. If instead, you came in and said "umoms needs to explain his vote" and "xvart needs to explain why ABR and KageLord are buddies" and left it at that there would have been no bells or whistles. Instead you hmm and haw over the entire issue.

[Konowa]

Sense made.

unvote;
Vote: rblinker123

Not as strong a read as before, but the whole talking out loud trying to decide whether people are serious or not is no bueno.

[Konowa]

Contextually, I did not mention L-1 because I voted immediately after the votecount. We are all big boys and girls here. I am not going to hold anyone's hand.

[Konowa]

I still think the "gunning for his [KageLord] head" and indecision about whether early pressure was serious or not is enough for me.

What say you ABR?

[Konowa]

Add strawman to the list.

Town mindset can easily see that early pressure was early. In a nine player game where it takes five to lynch, putting someone at L-2 on page one and L-1 on second post of page two, you are going to get reactions. I have already said that your talking out loud about the indecision is what makes it scummy. If you had just said "umoms needs to explain vote", "xvart needs to say why ABR and KageLord are buddies" there most likely would not have been a reaction. Instead you waffle over the entire issue, hoping someone would make up your mind for you.

Also, what do you think of xvart's actions thus far? You have continuted this point with him now for a few posts and have yet to say whether you think it is scummy or not?

[Konowa]

@Mod and all: I will be V/LA from Friday afternoon until Monday.

[Konowa]

Back from V/LA.

Still down with a rblinker lynch.

@ABR: Who?

[Konowa]

Seems ABR has not lost his touch, at least.

[Konowa]

I do not understand why people can not see rblinkerscum. The complete flop out of the gate around the early pressure on KL is scummy indecision. He has then done nothing but respond to posts instead of trying to find scum (note: the two are not mutually exclusive). And post 61 is not an example of the latter. The entire reasoning directly before and after his vote is nothing but a big bag of null.

KL's reasoning as to why he thinks rblinker is town seems very OMGUSy. I do not know what to tell about his alignment from this though.

[Konowa]

xvart: At this point, I believe that rblinker is more likely to be the scum between the two of them. KL's "it's too early to tell" post (to early to look up the actual number) would definitely have me in a if x then y vote automatically.

[Konowa]

Bringing up my own meta makes it null, but I do play aggressive from set, go.

Reasoning to bring KL to L-1 was weak, I will admit. It was more, however, to see if anyone stumbled and bumbled their way around it. Lo and behold scumblinker did.

[Konowa]

So from very limited experience, you can already say whay I will or will not do as town? y'okay.
KL was at L-2 when blinker hmmed and haawed all over the KL wagon. That led me to believe that blinker did not know how to react to his scum buddy being at L-2 so early. I put a L-1 vote to see how both would react.
KL sits fence on blinker and blinker continues to do nothing.
Also, blinker's "gunning" was directed at KL as further reading will show.

[Konowa]

Also.

I will be V/LA until Monday morning due to work again.

[Konowa]

I am sure blinker said the same thing.
It is quite unnerving to see how people are not talking about him.

VE needs to post or replace out.

[Konowa]

Do tell, ABR.

[Konowa]

Request Deadline Extension.

[Konowa]

So, Natalie replaces in calls two people scummy, FOS' a third, and votes a fourth.
Whaaaaaat?

[Konowa]

My point is that you have called over -half- of the game scummy.
We are in a nine player game.
You are throwing accusations everywhere to see what sticks.

[Konowa]

...welp. Moving along.

You have scumreads on three, but called four scummy. That still is quite a bit.

[Konowa]

So, why am I scum? All I see is you say some bad crap. I refute it and then you just write it off as a dismissal? Sure.

All the while you have made no analysis of the blinker/Natalie slot.

Changing opinion. Natalie/pacman scum.

[Konowa]

Above directed at pacman, if one could not tell.

[Konowa]

Still waiting for VE but something, I forgot what, made me lean town on him.

Also, talk about contrived.
Iso him, go ahead and take the five seconds and please tell me what makes you [pacman] lean town on him.

As an aside, deadline is just over 12 hours away. No majority means no lynch people.

[Konowa]

Continue the strawman.
blinker today/pacman tomorrow

[Konowa]

Die.
Please.

[Konowa]

Now I am lost.

[Konowa]

1)Where have I been an idiot?
2)33. Try reading.
3)Yes, fence sitting. Not, I have no read. It was "well if he is scum then but if he is town then" crap.
4)Does matter. KL was bumped up to L-2 and blinker said people were "gunning for his head" which was quite an exxageration. It ties into point two.

[Konowa]

How are you [pacman] confirmed town?
I want to reads from VE now.

[Konowa]

I am curious why at the end of tl;dr Hoopla named me a prime suspect, but offered no analysis of me at all.

Based on relations I pointed out multiple times D1, I think at this moment KL is likely scum, but I want some talks with Hoopla.

[Konowa]

The above is me giving benefit of the doubt to pacman's soft claim.

[Konowa]

blinker's flipping scum does increase the likelyhood of you [KageLord] being scum. Question is though, am I really ready to dip into that cup of kool-aid? Interactions from known scum to unknown are more WIFOMy than most.

The absolute void of information from VE makes Hoopla that much harder to read as there were no blinker/VE interactions.

[Konowa]

Not a big fan of NK analysis as it is too much theory.
"Natalie's entrance" reads to me as nothing but an attempt to confuse town as much as possible.

Vote: Hoopla

[Konowa]

Explain.

[Konowa]

You are confused.
I am not reading Hoopla's wall wrong.
I am giving my opinion on Natalie's entrance and basically throwing it away.

Hoopla needs to talk more at this point.

[Konowa]

You've been wrong quite alot this game pacman.
Let me play how I want to play. If you feel what I am doing is scummy, fine.
Otherwise, quit with the condescending attitude.

[Konowa]

Massclaim is fine.

[Konowa]

@Mod and all: I am going to be V/LA from this afternoon until Monday morning.

[Konowa]

VT.
Popcorn Drchrist.

[Konowa]

In regards to Dr's play around blinker D1, it makes sense as one could see that blinker is not a great player. He played the vote on blinker and then did nothing to further the vote. Seems like text-book bus to me.

[Konowa]

well there are 2 people stalling the game, both are scummy and they both promised content. The difference is one has been online and posting and the other hasn't.
so let's see what happens when he is at L-1

Vote:blinker

This confirms, to me at least, that Rob is town.

Will give xvart chance to post. If he has not by the time I leave computer, around 4 est, I will hammer.

[Konowa]

I don't know if Ranmaru will count that. So...

Vote: Drchrist

[Konowa]

Good job town.