Mini 1379 - Game Over!

[BBmolla]

/confirm

Town Doctor

[BBmolla]

Fuck, ignore that.

VOTE: Fitz

[BBmolla]

My vote is good, everyone hop on.

[BBmolla]

I didn't claim anything

[BBmolla]

It was a joke obv guys jeez.

BBmolla ( 1 ) (L - 6 ) BBmolla1 ) (L - 6 ) BBmolla

uh...wat

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Trollie

Better vote.

Fixed slut - MattP

[BBmolla]

Robert is easy target.

[BBmolla]

Ya'll should vote Trollie.

[BBmolla]

@BBmolla…why is Trollie a good vote?

Read his posts. If you're incapable of comprehending why, come back to me.

Axxle is scummy, his crap about Robert blows.

Rob's #99 looks pretty scummy to me. His read on Trollie seems incredibly weak at that point, yet he mentions that he'll jump on the Trollie wagon if it starts growing, seems like hedging to make sure he doesn't look scummy if/when he jumps on. I don't understand how he can have a town read on BB, but ok. His "hey guys look at this" comment on UN's comment on the "come on guys" post seems a bit scummy since he just calls it "intriguing."

Just reads as scummy everywhere. Especially the "I don't understand..." sentence, I can't see that shit coming from town who thinks someone is scum. "...but ok" why would any town player have this at the end? What?

CooLDoG is more than likely town due to his comments on me.

Fancy Pants' needless defense of Fitz/Trollie means he's probably buddies with one of them.

Fitz is probably town, I don't know what he's talking about, but I think he legitimately believes whatever it is. His ISO seems scummy at points, but then you read them in context and they're bueno.

Maestro is scum or useless.

Red is town.

Robert is probably town. The only way it makes sense with him not being town is if me or Red are scum, and obviously I know I'm town and Red is obv town.
"These two random possible mislynches are town."
^Scum don't do this.

Will read Slandaar D3, won't know till then.

Trollie's 59 is the scummiest post in this entire game.

UN is scum, he's trying too hard.

Venrob and Verity are probably town due to PoE.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla you're on crack as usual.

Some of what you say makes sense, but other stuff doesn't make sense at all.

And you're clearly contradicting yourself.

Oh rly, how?

[BBmolla]

Fancy Pants's awkward defense that early makes zero sense for a town player.

And the "forced" question still stands. How is asking for Maestro to define what JKS means a forced question? I haven't seen the acronym on the site before and would like to know what it meant. As for my post 33...I'm not that bothered about BB putting "Town Doc" in his ~initial post, but when another player infers that BB had claimed and BB's response is that he did not claim, I'd like to know what he [BB] thinks that was rather than have it look like the person who made the "BB claimed town" comment look like he was coming from nowhere/making shit up. So it was a relevant question. No idea where you are inferring "forced" from it. As for your "For example" comment...I wasn't asking questions for the sake of asking questions...so there was no "instead of asking that question" required. It was the question I was interested in at the time. Why would I ask Robert any questions about his vote? I didn't have any regarding it. It seemed pretty clear cut. Unlike your vote on me.

^I have no fucking clue what he's talking about, but he seems to truly believe it, and that gains town cred.

[BBmolla]

uhh...

And you're the other one. And I'm voting you. Hint hint.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: UN

It's sad how obvious a UN/Trollie team is.

[BBmolla]

Fancy Pants' needless defense of Fitz/Trollie means he's probably buddies with one of them.

Fitz is probably town, I don't know what he's talking about, but I think he legitimately believes whatever it is. His ISO seems scummy at points, but then you read them in context and they're bueno.

There is no contradiction. His needless defense means you're his probable buddy. Fitz is probably town, but if not, Fancy Pants is probably buddy.

You're not this dense. Stop trying to act like you have a case based on nothing. Stop asking stupid questions.

I'm voting UN for obvious reasons. Look at the vote count and get back to me if you're still having trouble.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla.

So let me get this straight

Everything you've said points to me being town

But you want to vote me

?

[BBmolla]

I just like the people on this wagon too much to leave it.

Comparitively, the Robert wagon is garbage.

[BBmolla]

I'll hop on a Trollie wagon if you switch to it

[BBmolla]

I have no idea what to make of this. Why are you on this wagon? Why is the Robert wagon garbage.

Because UN wagon vs. Robert:

1 - People composing the wagon - Fairly sure 3/4 on the UN wagon are town, excluding maybe CooLDoG. Don't like 2/4 on the Robert wagon.
2 - Whose scummier - UN. If he's scum it'll be very telling. Don't think Robert is scum.

They're probably both town after some thought. But I don't see the point in not using my vote to pressure/confirm a townread.

Plus, if I vote Trollie right now, people will continue bickering about UN vs. Robert. If I do something that makes no sense, people will pay attention to me so I can make them realize that both these wagons suck and we should do something different.

[BBmolla]

BBMolla: another question; why would you be willing to jump on the Trollie wagon?

Probably scum.

Hopefully Pine will see shit like I do so I can have someone to talk to.

[BBmolla]

Don't feel like pussying around with reads this game. Also trying to seem scummy so I don't get night killed.

[BBmolla]

(BBM: How is UN trying to hard, exactly? I and fitz both got the opposite impression.)

You have to understand the context of some of my UN games.

My first game with UN was a game(Newbie 1201) where he tunneled me and I thought he was town, but he was scum. He played very well, it died in the crash I think and his partner basically threw.
Second game was Weather Mafia II where he derped around and kind of got on people's nerves. I was scum and played like shit. He got modkilled for quoting his PM too closely.
Third was Paranoia where iirc he played decently. He claimed mutant and someone reported him and he was janitored by the mod in a hilarious turn of events.
Fourth was GOTY which I don't remember because it was so damned long.
Fifth was Newbie 1255 where he was town IC.

In this game he troll hammered the Doctor when the Doctor was at L-1 and had not claimed.

Sixth was Arkham Horror

where he trolled Tierce all game and troll hammered someone at some point.

Seventh was Scummer of Love where I tried to policy lynch him after my previous two games. His play in this game, after he realized people wanted to policy him, is basically the same as this one.

I suck at this game, but I don't fucking throw as hard as he did in those two games, one of which he was an IC.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Axxle

[BBmolla]

Yeah, I'm convinced. Not really buying BB's "I'm being intentionally scummy" bit. That's never acceptable, and a terrible Town strategy. BB isn't a terrible player, so it's more likely that he's scum that's been too reckless and is trying to recover.

Or town that's been too reckless and is trying to recover.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fancy Pants

Wagon hopping cause I'm scum, etc.

[BBmolla]

So you're voting me not because I'm scum but because you can't read me

[BBmolla]

My reads on him have gone from scummy to pro-town and back in a consecutive posts. This is different from a null-read. Confusion doens't help us at all.

This says differently.

[BBmolla]

Fancy Pants' needless defense of Fitz/Trollie means he's probably buddies with one of them.

Well I did say this.

Not "X is scum" but certainly closer to that then "X is town."

[BBmolla]

Okay well I guess we'll delay the lynch while we sit around and shoot crap while waiting for a replacement.

And by shoot crap, I mean tic tac toe.

x|_|_
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Your move.

[BBmolla]

x|_|_
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[BBmolla]

x|_|o
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I think that's game

[BBmolla]

Yes, Searching for a replacement for Venrob. Also, VC incoming. It's hell week for my show SO I AM DYING RIGHT NOW but I will get back on top of things.

What show?

[BBmolla]

I could just claim, it'd most certainly stop my wagon.

[BBmolla]

If I do die/get lynched, just make sure FP/Axxle follow me after. And don't let their scum asses talk you out of it. I'm so sick of seeing myself flip town only to have people ignore everything I said.

[BBmolla]

Slandaar is town btw.

[BBmolla]

If I'm getting lynched for trolling people need to provide recent town games where I don't troll.

[BBmolla]

Forgot to VOTE: BBmolla.

For "seeming scummy." And no content iirc.

I'm not "trying to seem scummy," it just kind of happens. (Also, I have posted content, and if you wanted to know something specific, you could ask.)

Just read Revolution, I "seemed scummy" all game.

Sometimes I consider that I should just try super hard in games, posting walls upon walls with theories.

But my gut works better than my mind most of the time.

[BBmolla]

Pine is probably scum which is a shame.

[BBmolla]

We could just lynch obv scum Axxle then, idc.

[BBmolla]

I wanna lynch Axxle so bad guys

[BBmolla]

I wanna lynch Axxle so bad guys

Why? If you want Axxle's lynch sooo much why the move off Axxle to FP when their wagons were comparable in size? Who is scummier in your opinion?

What are your thoughts on your other early favorites: UN & TheTrollie?

I was still busy with UN at that point.

Well the scumteam is FP, Axxle, Pine so I guess they're town unless multiscum. UN is town.

[BBmolla]

@mastin: He claims otherwise, but I agree.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla, why am I suddenly town now? Just because mastin said so? Or is it because you found out that I'm not getting lynched? What happened to all the other bullshit you were trying to push on me earlier?

You stopped being scum during like the second half of me voting you. However, at that point it was between you and whoever and I remember whoever being more town.

So I was voting you when I thought you were town.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Axxle

UN your shits really off this game.

[BBmolla]

Then why strike that out for any other reason but to be dramatic.

[BBmolla]

Axxle wagon is interesting. BBmolla saying I'm off is lol. I'm never off.

Weather Mafia?

[BBmolla]

-I'm not too fond of BBM's sheeping of my vote, and for that matter, my suspects. Agree that he's probably a good lynch, but not on day one. Tomorrow, sure, but not today.

Because I didn't want to lynch Axxle very clearly with the only thing stopping me is lack of any visible support.

Kids, why would I play like this as scum ever. Why wouldn't I sit back and appease your asses instead. You know, like the smart thing to do and that I actually do as scum?

[BBmolla]

Lemme rephrase that: I clearly wanted to lynch Axxle and I only didn't vote him because there was no support and you implying anything else is retarded.

[BBmolla]

I've had a scum read on everyone I voted. I was voting UN with a townread on him because:
A. The other wagon was shit.
B. Wanted to confirm read.
C. If he did get lynched I wouldn't have to deal with any bullshit antics. I'm fine policy lynching UN and tried as town here.

It literally can not be any more obvious that I am not scum, just look through my past games.

[BBmolla]

As long as I live for a few nights, I'm fine being lynched.

[BBmolla]

Just let me do my thang. Then kill me.

[BBmolla]

Molla why the continued half ass crumb/claiming?

Mafia won't kill me, they'd never think I'd actually do it as a PR.

In addition to the town's read on me, I am guerunteed free to use any abilities I have the next few nights.

That is assuming I don't get mislynched because of town being too paranoid.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fancy Pants

[BBmolla]

Molla why the continued half ass crumb/claiming?

No point in full claiming, I'm not dying tonight anyway.

[BBmolla]

I'll claim if someone states intent to hammer when I'm at L-1 obv.

[BBmolla]

K I'm Vanilla Townie.

[BBmolla]

If Mastin does what I think he does he's probably scum.

[BBmolla]

Axxle is scum who is going to make it to endgame btw.

[BBmolla]

Here's what I don't get: I wanted to lynch Axxle more than Fancy Pants while Mastin was hugely pushing the FP lynch. But after FP flips town, and Slandaar does too, suddenly I'm scum.

What has changed since yesterday? Why is Axxle not getting wagoned here?

[BBmolla]

Oh Axxle is town? Mind explaining that one?

[BBmolla]

I never said I was a town Power Role as far as I can remember. I implied it enough to try to draw the night kill sure.

Or I'm scum that set myself up for a fake claim and instead claimed Vanilla Townie for no feasible reason.

[BBmolla]

LOL at BBmolla claiming VT. Hey everyone...I was a PR on D! but since I lived through the night...I'm really just a VT.

Fitz this implies me assuming I wouldn't live through the night which wouldn't make sense if I was Mafia. How does it make sense for me to soft claim something and then hard claim VT as anything but town here.

You scum bro?

[BBmolla]

OK...now Trollie has gone back to voting BBmolla (with no reasoning) I assume it's back to whathever reasoning you had from D1? But you still suspect Robert? What is your read on CoolDog?

Holy shit Fitz is scum isn't he

[BBmolla]

Trollie do you find being completely honest is the best way to play Mafia as town?

No shit I said "so I don't get night killed" and "They won't night kill me," it's basic reverse psychology. Immediately by saying that it gives me the illusion of power. Do you ignore my taunts and kill someone else or kill me who is basically saying I'm going to survive and am an important PR of some sort?

By ignoring my taunts they seemingly do exactly what I want, and Mafia don't want to do that. They want to show the town who is boss.

It didn't work clearly, but your logic is dumb and it assumes that as town everyone tells the complete truth. My strategy here was to trick to scum, which in turn meant I had to trick the town.

[BBmolla]

BB softclaims & breadcrumbs all over the place, realizes that can get him in a pickle and backtracks

On the contrary, I would have been fine if I had claimed an important power role, I had all the soft claiming in place to set it up.

[BBmolla]

because that claim was god awful. totally nonsensical.

^You even said it yourself. Why would I do that as scum?

[BBmolla]

Trollie is town.

[BBmolla]

sorry, this is totally anti-town and if you are town then that sucks but i need you dead

His mindset is the same as mine in Steam Mafia(Which had an unexplained miller which I wanted to lynch because I refused to believe AV would be so retarded as to put that in. Also because I believed the player himself would mishammer in LYLO as the player was not exactly top notch).

This is the kind of shit I post that people lynch me for.

"OMG HE WANTS TO LYNCH TOWN, HE'S SCUM LYNCH HIM"

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pine

Trollie is failing to look at my motivation instead opting for the more implausible explanation that I am an expert at Mafia.

UN I'm not lynching Mastin today, even if he is scum he has to be bussing his buddies.

[BBmolla]

I don't give a shit, either is fine.

UN other vote possibilities from you?

[BBmolla]

Considering I actually agree with Mastin probably makes him scum.

But his agreeance is too valuable to get rid of atm.

[BBmolla]

1. Axxle*

3. CooLDoG
5. havingfitz
6. mastin2replaces Maestro

12. adorkablereplaces Venrob
13. Pinereplaces Verity

Town:
2. BBmolla
7. redtail896
8. RobertMontana
10. TheTrollie
11. UberNinja

Just need to figure shit out from here. Axxle is scummy as fuck for being ass backwards. CooLDoG seems like fucking Wormtail this game which is strange. Fitz is ass backwards too. Mastin I don't have reason to think he's scum, but I'm willing to admit he could fool me and UN sure as hell seems convinced so whatever. Adorkable I don't have shit on, but is most likely town. Pine is playing scumPine but might be due to limited access.

[BBmolla]

UN can we please lynch a partner instead of mastin

If mastin flips town I'll literally be fucking alone this game.

[BBmolla]

More like scum-town read on Trollie.

I do all the shit you said as town more than scum. Even the pointing to the meta one.

[BBmolla]

Minus Trollie.

[BBmolla]

K when you decide which townie to lynch go ahead I'm going to sit here quietly twiddling my thumbs until you all decide to lynch scum.

[BBmolla]

Yo mod go message Tierce and see if she'll replace Pine, that'll give me someone to talk to.

Unless she's scum, then it'll make the slot easier to read regardless.

[BBmolla]

@BBMolla: yesterday you implied that you were a PR hardcore. Why drop the act now? If you wanted to draw the NK, wouldn't it be best to claim a PR?

There's a point as town where you have to stop lying or your shit will start fucking up the town for reals.

For example, had I claimed Doc, someone could have claimed and said they tracked me and I didn't go anywhere.

Fake claiming a PR as town can only end bad in my experience, save those few times.

[BBmolla]

K when you decide which townie to lynch go ahead I'm going to sit here quietly twiddling my thumbs until you all decide to lynch scum.

^Don't expect anything from me I'm waiting for ya'll to choose with townie to lynch.

[BBmolla]

Yeah don't see why you think he's scum

[BBmolla]

Why do you care you think I'm scum anyway

[BBmolla]

Fitz's last post was trash. If you think I'm being useless, then isn't that a good thing that it is enforcing your read and wouldn't it make it easier to bring people to your opinion? Mainly the "time to claim" shit seems really forced and fake though imo.

BB, who would YOU prefer to lynch?

Pine/You, Fitz, Axxle. Less sure on the one in the middle. IIRC I had him as town at some point. I keep seeing shit from him that bugs me. Maybe Pidgeon too.
Mastin's rising up there too.

BBMolla: This is unhelpful. Can you give us a bit more of your thought process?

About what in particular

[BBmolla]

Pidgeon is scum.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pidgeon

[BBmolla]

Nah he is. This isn't Town-Pidgeon.

[BBmolla]

Space Mafia

He got game MVP for good play.

His insistence on ignoring his meta only makes my vote harder.

[BBmolla]

If people think Robert is scum they are assuming both his buddies are bussing unless I am one of them.

[BBmolla]

Lol?

Cool discredit attempt bro.

[BBmolla]

No seriously, what the fuck do you want me to say? Meta cases are bullshit.

No they're not.

[BBmolla]

wouldn't u buss if robert was ur buddy? lol...doing otherwise would be suicide

I would. But I'm just saying this reads to me more as town mislynch than both scumbuddies bussing.

Then again, there is always SK possibility I suppose.

[BBmolla]

Trollie is town due to, ironically, meta.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

Just mislynch RM so we can get on with it, there's too much what ifs and nothing else is going to happen today except that.

[BBmolla]

Boooored

Lynch someone please.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kimor

[BBmolla]

Sure go with that.

[BBmolla]

also i would like more from BB...hes been strangely inactive. at first he was using the excuse of him being in opposition of the RM wagon but now he has no excuses.

I'm over this day. Done analyzing, need flips.

[BBmolla]

Shoot Axxle if you're a vig.

[BBmolla]

We mislynching me today?

Scum should probably have a perfect victory, this town is garbage.

[BBmolla]

This is pants on head retarded

VOTE: Kimor

[BBmolla]

Fuck you. I'm voting someone who is actually scum. We tried your guys's method and it just got Robert(FUCKING TOWN LIKE I SAID) lynched and wasted everyone's fucking time.

I'm voting scum, feel free to continue being retarded and trying to get someone who is either town or unobvious scum.

[BBmolla]

Why would he claim the scum kill as a vig kill

Why would Mastin Doctorness not have worked

[BBmolla]

Basically let's lynch trolle now.

He thought trollie was scum whats not to understand here

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: No Lynch

[BBmolla]

No lynch it's MYLO

[BBmolla]

Let scum kill me so I don't have to play this game anymore

[BBmolla]

UN you really think Mastin and CooLDog could coordinate this shit during the start of this day.

[BBmolla]

UN which buddy is mastin bussing, fitz or Kimor?

[BBmolla]

Because there are three in a scumteam and UN only named two. UN has to be assuming Mastin is bussing you or Kimor because whatshisnut is town.

[BBmolla]

Oh nvm Axxle is there too.

[BBmolla]

Wish we didn't mislynch Robert yesterday. I hope we lose ass holes.

[BBmolla]

By PoE, it is probably BBmolla who is the third scum. Due to his overall level of lethargic/apathetic play, and because his gambit day 1 was probably double purpose: to either get a doc to counter-claim, or to have an excuse for not being nightkilled (because everyone assumes it was a gambit and thus scum wouldn't kill him obviously).

areyoufuckingkiddingme

If mastin is scum his interactions with me make no sense with us as buddy, and all the more sense that he's scum misleading me by appeasing to me.

[BBmolla]

We should no lynch.

[BBmolla]

I know. You think Kimor's scum. (I agree.) But you need to give us more than that. There are three scum. Who do you think they are, and why? What is your opinion on all three claims today? I can't recall commentary on any of them. You need to stop coasting by and step up your game, BB.

I think you have too many people on you to be town. There should have been a quickhammer by now. I'm fairly certain UN is town, if he's scum he's upped his game immensely.

I've typed up a post voting you multiple times, I wanted to eliminate one more person just to be sure, but if you'd prefer I can just vote you today.

[BBmolla]

UN why not no lynch I don't understand.

[BBmolla]

I just wanna no lynch guys.

[BBmolla]

But

I'm fine with either of those dying and it actually helps me understand what is going on more. If they kill someone who is "super townie" then it'll probably help indicate who is scum.

Consider me dead for today I guess, I'm not gonna vote until it's neccesary.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla states it makes sense that mastin scum has been leading him. I don't even want to try and find this needle in
the haystack but if BB recognizes it I would ask why he keeps pushing a no-lynch?

The concept of UN being scum tricking the shit out of me is too frightening atm.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mastin

[BBmolla]

Mastin you need to post your role in post 1 when you make these qts.

[BBmolla]

Fuck mastin that's why.

[BBmolla]

Seriously the options were no lynch or lynch mastin and for some reason mastin is still pushing this UN lynch which I've shown clearly I wasn't going to do.

I give zero fucks.

[BBmolla]

This town was fucking retarded, the Robert lynch was fucking retarded, we deserved to lose.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kimor

This is pants on head retarded

VOTE: Kimor

Fuck you. I'm voting someone who is actually scum. We tried your guys's method and it just got Robert(FUCKING TOWN LIKE I SAID) lynched and wasted everyone's fucking time.

I'm voting scum, feel free to continue being retarded and trying to get someone who is either town or unobvious scum.

^K

[BBmolla]

Can't explain gut.

[BBmolla]

You really shouldn't, you played to your win condition, I'm very happy with your play this game.

[BBmolla]

This just reasserts my "If UN is playing well, he's scum" theory.

[BBmolla]

Then my "If UN isn't pissing me off, he's scum" theory.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla was a detriment to town.

Besides misvoting to lose when I wanted to no lynch/lynch Kimor but couldn't because no one was fucking doing anything period, how was I a detriment?

Is it cause I didn't bitch enough about Robert getting lynched when I said he was town multiple times?