Mini 1493: Lucky's <insert cool name here> game (GAME OVER)

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HELLO
is it me you're looking for

Unvote

and I will catch up with this game later on, but before the deadline.

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done reading

nic cage
banksys
aptil

according to the VC that means i'm hammering

Intent

on Banksys

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no I want to be the hammer

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The way Banksys entered gives me a gut scum read
The way Nic Cage talks and acts passively through I think it was between pages 10-12 gives me a guy read too
Ap is the same thing

And one of the three had suspicious voting pattern too; I need to be on a computer to look back but on my read through it rubbed me wrong.

And of everyone else I have either strong towns or nulls.

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i join in

nothing happens for 30 minutes

i leave to play payday 2

and you guys ruin it

haha this better be some twilight fake-out

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Vote: aceofspades

and why are two people voting antihero right away?

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i'm going with my original reads again before i re-read the past few pages

Vote: banksys

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i don't like nic cage either so if we are doing that then i'm taking that to the house too if anyone wants to L-1 him eventually

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Almost every post by nic cage is a question. Like, "oh well why do you think this, why do you think that", like he's trying to get into our heads. I buy that it's scummy behavior.

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I like Banksys for scum based again on replacement behavior (let's WALL IT UP in here!) and then the voting pattern gives me a gut scum read. It just feels uneasy.

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Two disgusting posts in a row now, ugh

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I'm a master of psychology Nacho. I knew everyone was about to vote hodge, so I cleverly jumped on the bandwagon ahead of time. Archaebob was the easiest target yesterday and hodge is today, but dammit, Ace saw right through me.

Sarcasm (or are you being serious?) is incredibly muddling in WIFOM and makes your alignment hard to read.

VOTE: NicCage: just don't like his gameplay at all. Should have been lynched day1, lets not keep for long . He is the real threat.

Sounds so fake but unfortunately I agree with you; I just wouldn't put it in such a suspicious way.

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At least ISO the two lead wagons.

Alright well I'll go for a Banksys lynch. If Banksys flips scum I would look at Albert tomorrow
If she flips town then I'd look at LadyL
I think Nacho is scummy.
One of the PRs is probably lying.

VOTE: Banksys

I don't like this, because (at least according to me) it's paving a pathway to mislynching a lot of townies.

And who even "predicts" what they plan on doing in future dates anyway? It's dangerous to town.

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dat prod dodge

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intent to hammer nic cage

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claim something

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And don't think I don't have some suspicions about your rather calm and subtle demeanor, Nic.

That's just how I am as a person.

And yet you curse me out for putting you on intent. Now you seem like you're just saying things to appease people.

And your whole exchange with aptil at the beginning, where you said "why are you putting votes on people" and "hey i'm not asking anyone to do anything" and Wake comes in wondering why people do that and you basically tell him it's RVS.

Are you just slipping in your mindset?

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Are you that confident in your read on me that you don't want to get a better read on other players? I think it's a really bad choice on your part to allow the day to end now.

I have never heard any townie have that kind of mindset before.

Vote: NicCage

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Double checked, and that's my hammer. Not one of those unhelpful reaction tests, nor a mod error (assuming 6 to lynch is the correct number)

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Talking about "who we lynch next" is a terrible idea in any version of mafiascum.

Killing our confirmed scum in SD.

Vote: SalmonellaDreams

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And Nic if you're reading this, I sincerely thought you were scum a few days ago

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I'm voting on Banksys and I feel confident about that

I can't find the setup but if it's 3 scum then this should be lylo so i'm holding my vote

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Back from weekend

Looks like we have a cross vote

I usually vote with whoever can give me the best ATE because in the end, the one who lied about their ATE has destroyed all their chances at using ATE ever in the future, so it's a gambit

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I think Banksys is scum based on their entrance and the gut feeling I had from it in the beginning, but I have no read on Aptil because Aptil hasn't appeared all game

If Aptil gets away with it (similar to how scum members can often have 1 person be some sort of in-the-background flock), then I'd be upset so I want to think about it for a bit.

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I have my mind made up but I'm trying to figure out who in the hell the 3rd member is of the scum.

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Albert, what did you mean way back when, when you mentioned me:

I felt like Banksys' non sequiturs with archaebob were scummy, and that she was very misleading at several points in the day. That being said, she definitely stumbled down the scummy ladder after last night. I feel like my main concerns with her are her long contrived posts and the LLD vote with horrible reasoning. What I found when I looked back at that interaction during the night, is that I could partially see how a pressure vote for information could have quickly turned into a real one considering how LLD was so tunnelvisioned. If someone wants you dead and their alignment is unknown to you, and one of you is getting lynched, would you be voting them as your counterwagon? You bet.

The other thing is the archaebob kill. Archaebob may have correctly identified the entire scumteam yesterday and was killed because he posed a larger threat than any PR. Or maybe once the scum kill the real PRs, they realize that the PR fakeclaiming scum will quickly be exposed. In any case, there's no way that Banksys' actions yesterday and today outweigh the scummy quickhammer or the lack of movement from NicCage's corner after the wrong vote count. It's simply not something that he could miss. Every time there's a vote count, you instinctively verify if your vote is placed correctly. He even posted after that vote count. He either didn't see the thread, or I think, read it and didn't mention a thing in twilight when we thought that LLD was dead. And there was an entire day left before the deadline when LLD was hammered. Assuming that Antihero is the cop, the scum had to get rid of the doctor during the day or that would set them back 2 investigations, plus a suicide run if there's a watcher targeting Antihero.

Another one, Hodge had his vote on LLD all day yesterday, refused to unvote when I called him out on it a couple days away before the deadline, on account of pressure, and sat there right up until the hammer. Out of all the players, I'm also careful about Nacho. I think that he's dangerous. He's good at directing the town and influencing votes.

Aside from Antihero, who I'm willing to believe due to Viera, Uctitron may be the only player I'm not afraid of at this point.

What did you mean by the bolded part?

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Hint: It's you.

So put your vote on me so I can see if the scum is you or not.

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aptil why do you think banksys is scum?

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hammer time we win!

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just kidding lol

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Strangercoug vote on Aptil, and no scum hammer occurs

Need to think about this some more -_-

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I LIKE GAMES WHERE I AM IGNORED THE ENTIRE TIME

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I wanted to question Albert about that really, reaaaaaally suspicious claim of "well i'm not afraid of him", and was trying to peg him as scum #3

oh well

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one thing I learned from watching how scum play as a moderator is that there is usually someone on the scum team who is just hiding in the back and not drawing suspicion, and that's what I wanted to talk to Albert about

To be honest, I probably was leaning more Aptil than Banksys, but this was all pending on how Albert answered my question

ugh

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And I wasn't as active in the game due to real life time constraints, and with how freakin fast these bigger games go (I've been living in newbie games and micro games, and am trying to branch out into larger ones). Sometimes the game will go two days, and then 5 to 10 pages will be up. I could have had more influence than 30 posts in a 48 page game, but I'm going to try to stick my nose in farther more often, especially as a VT.

Good job Lucky on moderating; the vote counts were always convenient and there were no long twilight periods. Thumbs up!

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And Nic that was a (very wrong) read I had on you. I wasn't scum looking for a quick lynch. Sorry about that; I just missed.

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If I remember right, that day flew by in like 6 hours when I wasn't even on.