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[BBmolla]

Cool catching up

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Expect a post tonight, I'm busy atm.

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Wow Pie's reads sucked

I thought Pie would have good reads but lo and behold I get "RC IS SCUM!!" garbage

Not amish, reading Pie's posts as I readthrough because I thought he'd solve the game but nope.

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Also pretty certain top 2 wagons are on town so yeah, stop sucking please.

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But I'm only on page 6, if we want scum we should lynch Rememberance or I'd be down to policy lynch RC

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I don't really know if BBM is town but I'll probably end up sheeping him the rest of the game cause he's right about everything.

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He can be town for now at least, I'll reconsider when he leads me onto three mislynches.

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Okay I'll make one big post instead

IceNinja is super srs about everything so that's probably why he's being run up

SoS is extremely underwhelming.

Ice is just a derp dudes, stop. Like not even scum derp. Just derpy. Probably town too due to genuinity.

Holy shit, why are people talking trash about Flameaxe's posts, they are quite literally the best posts in this game, what is wrong with you all

Scumemberance can't handle the heat

I'm quite glad I don't know Flameaxe in person. Is he this unpleasant every game? His posts are taking the fun out of this game by making things personal and insulting.

rofl

SoS continues to be the epitome of useless.

TunnelVision is going to start walling soon.

I laughed out loud.

I'm seeing lots of TvT going down, IMO. How about everybody starts digging into the scumballs instead?

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ok maybe one of the top 2 wagons is on scum

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Rememberance being scum kind of hangs on whether he'd seriously go meta everyone as scum.

TV thinks Rememberence is scummy well thats cool I guess

Fisto seems pretty much the epitome of low posting new player, his early posts kinda sucked, later posts pinged me as town though.

I like don. I just like him. What a swell guy.

I'll bet money pie hasn't played with RC, cause that'd basically explain everything. I actually dig our frog vote though.

nope, never played with him

Baha, this was literally two posts after I typed the above. Man I'm cool.

Frog, I'll need to think.

Scumbuddy identified, cool cool cool.

Rememberence strikes me as super thorough, and I could see his meta shit being a "genius strategy" of his to seem town.

It's possible the guy just annoys the shit out me, I'm not sure yet.

EH, I'll humor you. Just get your head in the game, I don't like to mislynch, it upsets me.

VOTE: Frog

@Radiant, tell me if you still think he's scum in a few days time. I will listen to you.

@Don, oh okay. Basically it toes the line between playing based off philosophy "It's out of my hands, he did this thing" versus, just trusting your method. It's close to a scum tell I stole. But there's a reason, I said "I'm not sure" rather than "Vote don Johnson" it's because you weren't there.

noting

frog ignores case on him from pie, instead attacks pie, okay

Rem is good cop, frog is bad cop lol

o man that frog selfvote

He's self voting because people are dumb? uh k

I guess that makes him town? eh

holy shit this is boring, I'm not reading any more crap about the stupid reaction test, it was dumb and didn't do shit why is this being debated. What a distraction from anything useful.

Yeah frog is trying to prove a point he's town

no comment on heyato vote from Flameaxe, I've ignored that slot cause his posts bore the shit out of me.

TV's posts are trash I take back what I said, solid lynch, 10/10 would hang

I'm vigging RC tonight btw so don't shoot him mafia or sk(like you would, rofl)

Rem is like a clone of mastin, and I think he's super tryhard mafia atm. Scum QT will be like 1000 pages with Rememberence just talking about all the crazy strategies he's planning on pulling.
"Guys, I'm gonna meta everyone. Nobody in the right mind would do it as scum, so everyone will assume I'm town. Then I'll coast to victory."

SoS is scum

Game is solved, it's TV/SoS/Rem.

This is infuriating, but semi-prod dodge.

Quick question I should have asked a long time ago: @Everyone: Why are you town reading/scum reading me? Specifics, with the exception of Frog, who already gave a reason and Tunnel because I will have to channel the spirit of Mahatma to get through that and I don't want to encourage him.

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Gut, and you seem to want to show how smart you are and I think it's you being all mastinmindy behind the scenes

I mean even that question "Let me see how many people think I'm town so I can rub it in their faces later."

Hey Hayato, let's all make a deal.

How about you guys lynch me today, then when I flip town you and Iceninja are autolynched on the following two days.

Are you up for it?

Yes to the first part, no to the second part.
So we're clear I don't think you're scum but I do think you'll be completely counter productive all game.

Also, Remembrance might go in the scumpile, but town will have to wait because *reasons*.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooah. RC if you will be useful this game I will take back everything I've said about you.

TV citing "this is what I do as scum" pinged minorly town

So I just read through RC's ISO, and realized he hasn't even made a case against Hayato.

How the fuck do you expect to convince us to vote him just by stamping your foot and making a scene?

That's how RC does it dood. He tunneled on me for all of N's Theme game and I still don't know why he thought I was scum.

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Town

Aegor WBOCampfire1104
RadiantCowbells
don_johnson
ICEninja
Flameaxe
frog cedolad

Scum if I'm wrong about any of the ones list

My Milked Eek
XScorpion Mephistopheles*

One of them is probably scum so what I said about wagons being town was dumb

hayatoBL
TunnelVision*

Scum:

Sound of Silence (a hydra of fferyllt and GuyInFreezer)
Remembrance

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UNVOTE:

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SoS is more likely to bus than Rememberence so TV is more likely scum I think? I'll try to read hayato tomato's shit more in depth tomorrow.

I'll throw a vote down after I do that

night

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VOTE: Bbmolla

If that's how you're going to be why would you replace into a game with me in it?

lol

Honestly I thought N game was a fluke.

You can prove me different this game but you're off to a bad start.

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I don't really want to lynch TV, I'd rather sheep Flameaxe onto Tomato.

But over that I'd rather lynch Rememberence.

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I didn't think it was feasible due to a lot of "Rem is town" reads everywhere

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I had Rem scum, then frog looked like a legit buddy, but then frog was town

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VOTE: Bbmolla

If that's how you're going to be why would you replace into a game with me in it?

lol

Honestly I thought N game was a fluke.

You can prove me different this game but you're off to a bad start.

That's not the way you're talking with your calling for a policy lynch.

You replaced my biggest scumread then called for a policy on me then said that you thought my game that would justify a policy on me was a fluke.

Why wouldn't I be voting you?

Cause I'm town

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Gut, and you seem to want to show how smart you are and I think it's you being all mastinmindy behind the scenes

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Please do continue, I love your soft defense of him a lot.

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Scum if I'm wrong about any of the ones list
My Milked Eek
XScorpion Mephistopheles*

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I hate you for asking me that.

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No I hate you because that's the question I ask when some misguided person is calling me scum when I'm town.

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SIGH

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VOTE: Sound of Silence

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I still haven't looked at him, I'll do that soon

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Flameaxe I'll probably just sheep you in the next couple days but I can't yet because I think ICENinja is probably town so people will call me scum for it.

Hayato looks town.

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Believe me, I'm upset about it myself.

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Please lynch SoS kthx.

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Stop being a baby dude.

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Cause I kind of think TV is town too

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Aside from SOS of course.

That's about it atm

Do you see my dilemma

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CDB's Post

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I'd still policy lynch RC.

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ICE this is basically RC every game.

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Flameaxe I'll probably just sheep you in the next couple days but I can't yet because I think ICENinja is probably town so people will call me scum for it.

Hayato looks town.

Logic: If Hayato looks town, and either TV or Hayato is scum, then TV should be scum.

Also note here vocalizing the "They'll think I'm scum if I do X" preemptive explanation/ defense.

-Bauss-

Why are you goading me to vote you

I think you have town stuff too dude

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Also pretty certain top 2 wagons are on town so yeah, stop sucking please.

This before reading the thread suggests other knowledge. Like, scum knowing who is actually town.

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Wow Pie's reads sucked

I thought Pie would have good reads but lo and behold I get "RC IS SCUM!!" garbage

Not amish, reading Pie's posts as I readthrough because I thought he'd solve the game but nope.

Distancing from predecessor's play/reads/mistakes.

No bueno.

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I just played with Pie is Marketplace and he was pretty good. If I have a player who I consider good and is confirmed town to me, why wouldn't I try to use their reads?

I'm not going to pretend Pie's reads were good to avoid "distancing" from them or what have you, he was too distracted by RC.

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Flameaxe I'll probably just sheep you in the next couple days but I can't yet because I think ICENinja is probably town so people will call me scum for it.

Hayato looks town.

Logic: If Hayato looks town, and either TV or Hayato is scum, then TV should be scum.

Also note here vocalizing the "They'll think I'm scum if I do X" preemptive explanation/ defense.

-Bauss-

Are you scum or retarded

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TV, I don't say that and sheep Flameaxe onto ICENinja after I call him town, what will people think of me

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Why the fuck aren't we lynching SoS

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Frog why do you want my lynch

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@Molla
Why did you mentioned that you would policy-lynch RC? What makes RC special above your other town-reads?

I know Rem is gone, but can you describe to me your scum-reads on him?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5590338
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31182
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31620

Rem's play seemed too calculated, it mostly stemmed from that.

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Also, you'll love this, but please don't use 'retarded' as an insult. Thanks in advance.

Yeah it's hella gay when people do that.










(I kid don't kill me pls)

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RadiantCowbells, you getting lynched helps your team win?

Don't you think there's an issue with that?

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So you're a vengeful townie, got it

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I actually don't have as much problem with that, you dragged it out way longer than needed true, but you unvoted.

I do have a problem with you self voting (unless you're a vengeful townie)

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unvoted = retracted

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\o/

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SOS is such a bad lynch for today.

Wrong-o

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Someone text Mac or some shit.

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Okay Flameaxe confirm/deny

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Is a dayvig even normal

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Sound of Silence, a mafia goon was lynched on day one!

MAN I'M AWESOME

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Also, pointing out the "quality vigging there" aka commenting on night actions is an infamous scumtell.

MME, why are you voting Aegor?

What is this, epicmafia?

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Hold on lemme catch up, then I'll skim his ISO and vote him

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WTF, why vig kill Scorpion? Dude was obv town.

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Shut up

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awkward

gj on outting PR doge, solid play

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CDB, the obv vig

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Why is "guess whether or not CDB is a vig" a thing we're doing? Stop it.

(I wasn't serious fwiw)

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CDB, Aegor was faking misunderstanding SoS? Or actually misunderstanding but attempting to bus?

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Yeah okay I'm fine with that, you're still town anyway so who gives a fuck

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Aegor claim doge, then Hayato, then MME

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Clarification: Not saying they didn't clearly crumb miller, or that I don't think it might be significant that they did so. Just that they are not claiming 'miller dayvig'

The crumb claim made no sense either. So we have a miller crumbing that has not been verified, and a dayvig that has also not been verified. And an obvious motivation for the claims.

VOTE: SoS

...?

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And why was this not immediately claimed

I'm hammering once everyone checks in

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No, I mean at the start of the game. "I am a miller"

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Won’t it be much better, if MME out his info, like in the middle/end of Day 2? He could have observed Aegor and see who could be Aegor’s scum partner (assuming he has any) and at the end of the Day out his shit and get Aegor lynched.

No, that's dumb. You don't hide guilties.

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Aegor, if you are miller, this is why most people don't follow that "don't claim as miller" school of thought. It's really stupid tbh.

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Ok, I lied, I'm a two shot cop. I investigated BBmolla and he turned up not guilty. Do take that with a grain of salt as there might be a godfather.

wp dude, I was hoping so

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You being two+ shot, not the rest of the crap in that sentence.

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I'm town, but scum must have some power role to counter act a Doc + 2-shot Cop

I'm guessing the third scum, if not a godfather, is probably some sort of Tracker/Watcher/X JOAT? No roleblock, so I don't know how else other than those two they'd counter act the broken-ness of Cop + Doc

FWIW, Eek living is a point in favor of the likelyhood of there being godfather

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If RC was a vig kill they may want to claim.

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Cause that means that something nutso went down last night

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Why the fuck would RC die unless you were the last mafia and a Godfather CDB

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Night kill analysis is dumb yadda yadda but

wtf

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The reason I wanted a claim is I had a theory we had a serial killer. But 2scum + 1 SK doesnt make sense. Could be 2scum and 2scum though. More than likely it's 3 scum and a vig.

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Why the fuck would RC die unless you were the last mafia and a Godfather CDB

I presume to make me look like the last mafia and/or godfather?

Or maybe RC just annoyed the last scum - if I'd actually been scum I'd probably have advocated killing him N1 for my own sanity, as much as anything.

Oh believe me, you killing him was the first thought that came to my mind rofl

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flameaxe

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Nothing, literally nothing, has indicated the presence of a GF so far.

Two goon flips implies scum's third power is very powerful to compensate.

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Need to do research on Hayato.

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Prod dodge

Don and TV both seem like bad lynches to me.

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After reading Hayato again, and these catch up posts, I'm having real trouble believing he's the last member of the scum team. He's doing things that don't jive with him being scum. It just feels off. So either I'm incorrect on there being a single faction 3 scum team or Hayato is town (third option, I'm losing it.) That's my take away after a comprehensive review.

I think last remaining scum is playing either really ballsy, or really smart. Unfortunately, I keep going back to BBMolla. I know, innocent and all, but his play has changed from when he first joined the game until now. Previously, he was taking a more active role, leading conversations and such. Today, hes more sheepy, less vocal, etc. This seems strange considering he got cleared last night and could more easily lead town/opinions. This behavior doesn't seem to jive with the circumstances.

All that said, I don't see enough support for a BBMolla Lynch today, and the game state doesn't justify lynching "innocents" right now.

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I had one scumread and we lynched them, I don't have anything else to yell about at this point till I reread and see something to warrant yelling

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CDB, chat with me please, I think Don is a shitty lynch.

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*high five*

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I'd prefer Hayato over Don

But admittedly I'm out of touch with recent postings.

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bbmolla: can you respond to TV's statements regarding your play?

Which

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I mean, tbh, me replacing in as a godfather and bussing my buddy for towncred sounds legit.

But why would I not use the seeming obvious town ness to get mislynch after mislynch? Why would I throw the game just by sitting here? The only reason why with me being town is cause I don't really know who scum is tbh.

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Shit. I'm sorry fellas for being a waste of space.

I have a few hours between school and rehearsal, I'll try get something done in that time.

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Never mind I'm in class at deadline.

I'd vote TV but apparently he's at L-1 and I don't want to premature hammer.

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Doubt it.

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VOTE: Hayato

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Justin Case

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Oh wow we won

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Who the hell checked this for balance Mac

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frog I thought you made it obvious you were town, so take that as a victory. Meanwhile I get vigged after being checked by the cop.

I caught SoS though \o/

*shrug*

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pieguy if you ever come back to this game, don't try to read RC like a normal person, you'll just frustrate yourself

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Town Doctor, 2 shot cop, and X-shot Vig vs 3 goons?!?

That doesn't seem particularly unbalanced, though. It could lead to a follow the cop, but that's far less of an issue in a closed setup, I guess. Mafia certainly didn't need a roleblocker, or anything, that swings it the other way.

I think the setup would have been more fair with a one shot strongman, or something less powerful than a roleblocker along those lines.

I agree with this.

TBH I think a Godfather would have been a decent fit as well. But I hate them.