Mini 1535 - Game Over

[kushm4sta]

/confirm

[kushm4sta]

hi

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nm u?

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sorry i dont know how to rvs

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I don't get your point with that being his only post before the gooner wagon.

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those two statements, the first illicited my response

the second increases my concern..

looking at my vote, which was by phone I should really have put a line break in..

why does the second raise your concern especially? It seems like a natural continuation of his rvs fake pushing. That is like a thing on this site isn't it?

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if it is fake why push it in the manner he has done so? why would you suppose it was fake?

because it's based on one post with no content in it. You think his scumplan is to push someone based on absolutely nothing at all?

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why the fuck are you using semi colons smudger.. i cant even understand wtf you are saying

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VOTE: Tommy
seems like you are sheeping without knowing why you are sheeping

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smudger you need to work on being more clear about your arguments IMO. Why is a statement like "everyone thinks im town when Im scum" alignment indicative at all? I think it is very null.

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ya smudger you right sorry

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and his lash out at Aegor in 92 makes me feel there's the potential for him to slip if he is in fact mafia

I'm sorry, I'm not understanding this completely. So it's not a slip itself, but indicates that if he is mafia he may slip in the future? Just clarifying.

Exactly. Also, no need to apologize.

VOTE: masenkoEX

You pre-attack him on a slip you admit he never made, and prepared a future attack on something that never actually happened. I wanted to make sure this was the convoluted stretch you were making.

This seems like a fake mafia case to me. I don't town could possibly believe that mafia would plan ahead like tihs.

VOTE: surye

[kushm4sta]

why is everyone ignoring me lol

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kid a i could be scum too i promise

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Tommy[3]- Dessew, Smudger, Albert B. Rampage

loooks like a good idea to sheep this wagon considering the skill i perceive in two of the people making the wagon. I dont even know why he's scum honestly. Hard to follow the game when you dont know anyone's name, konw what im talking about?

VOTE: tommy
and if its right ill be confirmed town lol

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lol scum are scattering like ants.
town join the smart people wagon.

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everyone seems like they are voting for everyone

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dunno dude im just saying shit in place of a prod dodge... dont look too deep into it.

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fusion seems awesome and really townie to me

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nooo what's wrong with the tommy lynch?

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k VOTE: gooner

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wiat im actually gonna filter him hold up

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VOTE: Masenko

Why does the fact that someone might slip at some point down the road make them worthy of a vote right now? Surely all of us might slip at some point in the future?

Moreover if a player seems like the type who says illogical things/slips then surely that means them actually making a slip is worth less to a case than if a more rational player were to do so?

I was ready to unvote masenko after he explained his response to my previous question but I don't like the not voting his top scumread. Town have no reason to "play cautiously" in this game.

Albert's argument that Gooner's posts are easy to make as scum is correct. His filter is mostly smart townreads, which come easily to scum. It's much easier for scum to make smart townread than town.
Above are his two scumhunting posts.
First one says he votes masenko because of some illogical thing he said. Second one says he's voting masenko because he's not voting his top scumread. These are really superficial reasons to vote someone. The first I would classify as a nitpick and the second as an empty generalization

Very happy with these sheep. Also damn Albert you are one sexy mother...

[kushm4sta]

Above are his two scumhunting posts.

He also scum-hunts in 49, 53, 135, 167, 245, 248, 285, 287, 289, 316, 318, 321 and 327. This is such a bad wagon.

Let me be more specific. I define "scumhunting" here as giving reasons why someone is scum. He doesn't do that in any of those posts.

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drpepper is town, fools

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kid a overestimates himself. good to know.

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@gooner
"Still" is more referring to his suspicion of Aegor than of you. He still suspects Aegor.

Maybe he didn't mention you before and just realized you were scummier than aegor, for reasons other people had already said

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Surye doesn't look scummy when you read his whole filter. It seems like gooner just scoured the thread for a suitable candidiate saying something that seemed anti town and jumped on it.

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me talking doesn't stop him from doing anything

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i am merely pointing out why people shouldn't be convinced by his recent effort at try harding.

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Actually I'm kind of getting cold feet about this lynch. I think it's true that it's easy to make those posts as scum but that doesn't necessarily mean those posts have to come from scum.
UNVOTE:
I could move back but I'm not in a hurry.
What are the alternative lynches at this point?

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Show don't tell

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Yes sir.
I'm not used to instant majority lynch.

VOTE: gooner

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ABR was a lot more talkative in his last scum game.

Sick meta read bro...not

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I really don't want to sheep onto drpepper because I get intense townfeels from him

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: kid a

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ew dessew. I hate it when people use bluehunting as a scumtell.

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especially such obvious blue hunting. especially in a setup like this.

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eh ima be lazy and just plop my vote on surye. Why? the vague memory of him not wanting to let go of the gooner wagon. He kept trying to come up with ways why gooner was still scummy and it didn't seem genuine to me.

VOTE: surye

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eh ima be lazy and just plop my vote on surye. Why? the vague memory of him not wanting to let go of the gooner wagon. He kept trying to come up with ways why gooner was still scummy and it didn't seem genuine to me.

VOTE: surye

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eh ima be lazy and just plop my vote on surye. Why? the vague memory of him not wanting to let go of the gooner wagon. He kept trying to come up with ways why gooner was still scummy and it didn't seem genuine to me.

VOTE: surye

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lol whoops

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can someone point to the argument against tommy?

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why did he self vote wtf

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yeah albert looks bad, especially since he is clearly skilled, and you looked very town

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VOTE: Albert B. Rampage
whyd you vote for tommy?

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fusion just won that argument.

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I was thinking the same thing!

VOTE: Fusion

LOL im so done with this kind of shit. that may be hypocritical coming from me, but yeah.
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

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fusion has the most in depth reasoning in this game. That means it would be hardest for him to be scum out of anyone in this game.

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why aegor??? im a nice guy.

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why aegor??? im a nice guy.

What is your case on ABR?

just voting for anyone without giving reasons. i mean it's not even that scummy, it' sjust like wtf are you doing bro...
fusion looked super town and if you actually bothered to filter tommy he looked really town too.

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filtering surye now

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i think gooner is town because of this simple heuristic:
it's easier to come up with retarded connection theories as town

If Surye and you are scum then the motivation is to save your scumbuddy from a Day 1 lynching.

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^lol

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Scumteam guess: Surye, Kushm4sta, HavingFitz.

Why those three in particular? What about Kid A?

Kushm4sta is agreeing with everything I said to an almost unreasonable amount. I can buy us having similar viewpoints but I feel that the first 3 posts are overkill when looking at all three combined. The last one is more unreasonable support to me. Tbh, I didn't feel Gooner's argument was all that bad. He misunderstood my intentions and jumped to conclusions which was somewhat annoying but I hardly thought they were "retarded."

fusion seems awesome and really townie to me

fusion just won that argument.

fusion has the most in depth reasoning in this game. That means it would be hardest for him to be scum out of anyone in this game.

i think gooner is town because of this simple heuristic:
it's easier to come up with retarded connection theories as town

If Surye and you are scum then the motivation is to save your scumbuddy from a Day 1 lynching.

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I explained Fitz. Also as you also pointed out, he was dismissive of the top wagons yesterday. The content he provided was unremarkable and boring. He has since resorted to prod-dodges.

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Surye is probably the one I can justify the least because I don't have a much better reason than "gut." When I see his posts, they feel careful, controlled, and unnatural. They have the makings of a competent scum player playing his cards just right.

fusion is just one sexy mother fucker i like how he does what he does

[kushm4sta]

hey yallz. gonna be putting some work in on this game in the next couple of days.

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honestly my read of fusion is completely based on that first post when he townread everyone. i was like O_O such amazing townreads zomg.
but yeah scum can townread so my read is hella outdated and I put no stock in it.

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wait wtf he's lynched already..

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if he's town this game totally isn't my fault

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Why is Albert town?
Albert you put virtually no energy into the game so I don't know what you are bitching about

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lol people are looking at my other games on this site???
they were a long time ago. I had one scum game, it was a newbie, and yes I won.

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I don't blame people for thinking I'm scum, though, since the effort I have put into this game has been minimal.

VOTE: surye

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VOTE: kush

Not moving this vote without a very good reason.

hmm how can i help convince you?

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So dessew is scum right?

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The new cool move for Scum to do is fake poe I guess.

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sorry it's hard to unvote vote on my phone

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dessew

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also hold up
i want to put some work into this game before i make a decision. because honestly right now i have no idea whats going on

UNVOTE:

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Omg surye picture that citizen kane gif where he's clapping.

I thinksurye is town and he makes good points. What shit fusion tho? He seems hella scummy

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Wait surye, why are you saying he's scum for being wrong about the mechanics of the game?

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There's no reason why literally any of these points you brought up make dessew scum.

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Can someone tell me is surye strong mafia usually?

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Dude it's hard when you don't know everyone's meta..you actually have to read the game. There are far too many posts I haven't read to answer that question with any degree of certainty.

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Wait what about fusion...is he dead already?

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Someone answer me. Is surye s scum game strong

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What's the precedent for active player replacement?

Wow dude you are really using this as a scrum stat. That is stooping low.

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Bro I am on my phone. Have you ever tried to meta someone from your phone

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This site is not mobile friendly btw.

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But it's like surye wants to lynch me for not trying. As town it would probably be more important to town to lynch scum.

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What's the precedent for active player replacement?

Wow dude you are really using this as a scrum stat. That is stooping low.

I'm not using it as a "scrum stat", I'm expression frustration at you asking everyone to play this game for you while you have no idea of who is even alive or dead. It has nothing to do with town or scum, just that I hate playing with people like that.

Didn't say no.dat scum slip.

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Surye what do you say to this:
Maybe I have been reading all along and I'm just trolling the shit out of people because it's a technique I use, taught in the private forums of sites you have never heard of, to get a read on someone by trolling the shit out of someone.

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Yo Rubicon I just changed my mind about that.

And saurye it doesn't matter that you aren't voting for me. I'm your second scum read

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Surye the point is you are scum and I caught you and you can cry about it all you want, but that doesn't save your souls from my perpetual ownage

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Yo there is an error cause I unvoted but it's cool, leave it there.

Fixed

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whose got the best PoE i can look at

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VOTE: surye

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I got prodded lol. I'm pretty much sitting here waiting for surye to get hammered. Don't know what else to say.

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WOH I just read some of surye's filter. Looks pretty fucking town.
is it mylo?
UNVOTE:

[kushm4sta]

Gooner
Aegor
havingfitz

[kushm4sta]

lawl i told you guys

[kushm4sta]

yo i need some direction. who should i filter?

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aegor is definitley scum i think! he is so eager to vote me, and he doesn't even consider the possibility that im town troll/vi etc. TOWN would be afraid of that possibility.

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but aegor why does it seem like your desire to lynch me has nothing to do with you thinking im scum?

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also wtf is up with this setup... i feel like we should have lost like 3 cycles ago. We haven't lynched a scum yet and it's day 10 or osmething.

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ok so what do you want me to do chamber

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help ME help YOU read me

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dude im not leaning on vi status. im just curious why you aren't considering it a possibility.

@rubicon. im not reading the whole game lol. just not gonna happpen, sorry bro. give me an easier assignment. like filtering 1 or 2 people or something.

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ima need you to link it or quote it if you want me to read it

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yeah surye is scum. no suprise there. aegor i dont know.

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bbl

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also abtr prob died because he had a townread on me, and im the person scumteam planned on mislynching today.

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and aegor yoru self righteousness makes me want to throw up. get over yourself. i have alife and this game isn't my priority.
your current stance is more anti town than me, you hyupocrite

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lolol nice
VOTE: surye
work averted

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vt

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lol how was that the wrong answer?

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End this, yes?

LOL dat scumclaim

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vote me to end the game, right aegor?

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wel aegor just scumslipped so no

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rubicon it's just you tried so hard this game! it's sad that you are throwing away all your hard work right now.

yes if i were scum that would make my play a lot better.
but do i seem lik ea player that plays better than i play??

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if you are going to vote for me than just do it and end this game like aegor says.

in the future, here is how you should hav eplayed:
give me a SPECIFIC question to answer or a specific filter to read. if you say "READ THE GAME YOU IDIOT" im not gonna do it. YOu need to be more helpful in helping me help you.

but dont bother blacklisting me because it will prob be like 6 months before i play another game here and everyone will forget anyway (like last time lolz)

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k then vote?

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aegor scumslips.
he says "whatever" in response.
no one gives a shit.

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unless he's godfather right

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wow gooner that is fucking sexy

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dude gooner rubicon must be scum I guess.. he is a really sick player then!

I hope you realize that the most important part of what you said was the last part.

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sorry i meant dude, gooner, RUBICON MUST BE SCUM

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that was a sexy, sexy skim.

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what if everyone on me is scum?

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UNLESS HE"S GODFATHER RIGHT

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dont know why aegor wants to punish me more than he wants to win the game. Has he never seen a troll before?

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wait does he hate me for anyway?? not doing any work basically. is not doing any work that uncommon?

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so this game is still happening

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@aegor how can you be SURE im scum? disregard how much i deserve the lynch.
FACT: i have acted like this in the two other town games i played in on this site. This is how i play town. So how can you be so sure?

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^ how do you play as scum?

well i usually try harder but not always. I don't blame someone for having a null read on me this game, because i have very little content. But you can't say im scum for trolling/not caring, because I have done that in other town games on this site.

I am in another game right now, just not on this site. How slow days are on this site, it makes me lose interest. I'm used to 48 hour days. And that's why I haven't played here in a while and probably won't play again for a while.

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town played bad. not me the rest of you tho