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We could be waiting a long time then for your vote
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Apart from some posts by yourself hearbylightning, there had been nothing of. Importance in the game. In fact, post 51 just before I wrote saying I had seen nothing important in the game so far is the one I am quoting above.In post 51, kushm4sta wrote:so much tldr so early in the game.
I stand by what I said in my post, that there was nothing much happening In the game.-
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Agree with this. Mostly because I thought his case against me was stretched from nothing.In post 95, My Milked Eek wrote:
You guys are idiots.In post 66, Slainte Mhath wrote:Milked: you vote in RVS and then tell everyone else to jump on. No reasons, no case and as far as we can see it's based off if an RVS vote! ->leaning scum
And your vote is worrisome. There's a discrepancy between your vote on geraintm and the list you provided. I feel that your reasons for finding HTL scummy are more genuine and more of a basis to vote someone than your geraintm reasons. Yet you vote geraintm.
Most solid vote in the game as of yet: VOTE: Slainte Mhath-
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When I said nothing was going on, there was nothing going on. Really, there wasn't.In post 150, Slainte Mhath wrote:Let us turn our attention to 70. Gerain is basically giving an excuse for why he's not contributing to the game. He's saying, "you need to keep me around another day because I'll be good tomorrow." Because of this attitude he refuses to contribute to the thread. We can't possibly believe that this attitude could come from town. A townie would give as much as he can to town and actively want to get killed. This means that scum is convinced that they are conftown.
I am very slow to move votes, there had been nothing for me to even consider yet moving mine.
The other part was me admitting that I don't think I am am brilliant at day 1s. Might just have low confidence though. This game is only my 4th since coming back to the site after a very long break.
I will contribute when I see something worth saying.
Right now I am finding people's posts....aggressive. I don't know why people are but feels a lot of unnecessary hostility. I have no interest in joining that.-
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On the lack of anything better than I don't think a brand new player would flake from their first ever game if they were a scumIn post 178, sthar8 wrote:Why not?-
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You've been in a game with me before, you saw I don't move my votes much. I never said my first vote was on scum, it was very clearly a random vote and it still is. I'll move it when I see fit, no soonerIn post 206, bjc wrote:Why are you voting Slainte?
Ger - why haven't you moved your vote? Are you going to contend that the sixth post after yours is scum?
Vonflare - assuming you just failed to read what was implied by "that's the towniest post I've ever seen," where should your vote be? Who do you find scummy so far?
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Day one, I mostly pay attention to where the votes go. Too easy to try and make out someone is being crap from the tiny things they are saying, so I don't try too hard (unless it is super obvious).In post 213, bjc wrote:
Are you going to be difficult all game long?In post 210, Elyse wrote:Answer what
So you've not seen any scummy actions so far? I mean, if your vote is nothing more than a random vote, then you obviously haven't seen a single thing that would count as scummy. I think that's bullshit. You're either not paying attention at all, or you're just being... Unhelpful.In post 211, geraintm wrote:
You've been in a game with me before, you saw I don't move my votes much. I never said my first vote was on scum, it was very clearly a random vote and it still is. I'll move it when I see fit, no soonerIn post 206, bjc wrote:Why are you voting Slainte?
Ger - why haven't you moved your vote? Are you going to contend that the sixth post after yours is scum?
Vonflare - assuming you just failed to read what was implied by "that's the towniest post I've ever seen," where should your vote be? Who do you find scummy so far?
We need more activity.
So, as not many wagons formed, see no reason to move my vote-
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It isn't greats logic, but I am very unlikely to see enough today for me to go past this prejudice. I am sure there are tons of counter examples, but meh....In post 225, sthar8 wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier, this is broken logic. I can think of two counterexamples that I've played in. There are a lot of reasons to flake, and most of them aren't alignment dependent.In post 180, geraintm wrote:
On the lack of anything better than I don't think a brand new player would flake from their first ever game if they were a scumIn post 178, sthar8 wrote:Why not?
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Really like this. Feels like the best thing posted in the game so farIn post 266, Elyse wrote:@Pim
I only use meta if I've played with a person before. I don't do meta research. I guess it's useful sometimes.
Why would you claim VT for no reason? Really dislike this post.In post 231, SiX wrote:Usually I'm active as VT, but since the game hasn't really progressed I don't got a reason to post. Yes, I could try to enter discussions but what's the point in doing that when I don't have anything to say? It would only be spamming.
About an active game as town, Uh. I might have some but that's not necessary on this site.
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Exposed how?In post 252, bjc wrote:
Why though?In post 249, geraintm wrote: Day one, I mostly pay attention to where the votes go. Too easy to try and make out someone is being crap from the tiny things they are saying, so I don't try too hard (unless it is super obvious).
So, as not many wagons formed, see no reason to move my vote
Is it because you don't want to be exposed? You say, "as not many wagons formed," yet there are still wagons. So why didn't you hop on any of them?
There are no wagons in this game so far, no one has come at all close to being lynched. And you are asking me to randomly jump on a wagon just to expose myself?
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Going to do my best to catch up with the game now. Except many posts now in a row.
Object to bjc calling me out for not playing when he is posting utterly useless posts like this. This is why people glaze over-
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You are right, I am bad at scum hunting day 1. I tend to look at voting patterns, and there isn't a lot of that day one.In post 286, Wolfy wrote:thoughts and observations: These are just that. Me thinking out loud. It's probably obvious to you guys because you've been playing this game for 10 days. So it probably reads like crap - still you should all be used to that because:
1. There's lots of crap in here
2. I'vereadit all but it's going to take me a while to get my head round it
3. Some lurkers who need to post a lot more - my slot being one
4. playing/posting style affecting people's reads too much - prime example being bjc. If you don't like his posting style he must be scum etc.
5. bjc postsa lot morethan anybody else - but his posts haven't necessarily contained the most content
6. hlt posts a lot of analysis - I haven't got my head round this yet but there's a gut feeling of distraction.
7. I like gin
8. I don't think I like hydras - this is my first one and I am confused
9. Most common reasons why people replace out: RL issues, boredom. Most common reason for boredom = VT role.
Spoiler: For what it's worth, some first pass reads
the fact that I'm only properly leaning scum on one player worries me. That's 2 more scum not posting enough. puts kushm4sta in the frame...
I am surprised that there haven't been any real wagons in this game - pushing someone to L-1 or at least L-2 might be a good idea.
If we don't do that until the last 24 hours there won't be time to jump off and build a new one if necessary.
I'd like to build one but the 2 players at L-4 are both town reads to me.
VOTE: geraintm
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Distraction? Not sure what I have said about lightning. Can you direct me to what I said?In post 287, bjc wrote:vote: Geraintm
Can you clarify what you mean when you talk about HtL and a "gut feeling of distraction?"
Because you handed him a town read. How I interpret that is you giving a town read to someone you're iffy on.-
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Hmmm, I dislike people who move their votes all the time. It doesn't help me spot bad votes, creates too much noise. I much prefer slower games when it comes to votes. So I get the opposite view on bjc than you do.In post 299, SiX wrote:For the record; My read on Bjc has lately began to change. I consider his recent posts with rapid votes more town like.
Still on hold though, just not worth the rope.
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I am not that lazy. I don't think I have gone longer than 48 hours without posting, I just haven't had vast amounts to say so far.In post 305, Elyse wrote:Ger doesn't really interest me at this point. I find him more lazy than scummy but I don't have any problem with votes on him.-
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I actually agree with this. I was just in a game where a scum got accused of being scum (by one of his buddies actually) and his response was similar. Like a nervous release of energy, people think they can make a joke and then latter on think how clever they were.In post 302, vonflare wrote:This actually looks pretty scummy.
I was once scum, and my partner responded in a similar way to a similar question.
hmmm...
VOTE: kushmasta
and also, gaminglemon, this is not a queue.
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I am not sure why I am being so anti-town. I am pretty sure in my last game I said the same thing about my day 1 abilities and I did not get the same reaction.In post 324, sthar8 wrote:
This is lazy thinking. Everything else appears solid.In post 286, Wolfy wrote: 9. Most common reasons why people replace out: RL issues, boredom. Most common reason for boredom = VT role.
My thought on ger is that it serves no scum end to be overtly and demonstrably anti-town on day 1. And if it were a scum play somehow, I'd expect a justification that's more than "idk because."
How are you reconciling the misdirection from HTL with a town read?
You are awful.In post 312, SiX wrote:Lurking, Yes I openly admit I lurk. And so what? Lurking isn't necessarily scum.
I want to vote kush and six, but my role only gives me one vote. Can I borrow one?
for now:
VOTE: kush
Wednesdays are really bad days for me btw. I draft magic on Wednesdays so I can not post except perhaps a small amount from phone-
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That is interesting. I made assumptions and seems to not be the case. I shall bare that in. Mind for the futureIn post 354, Wolfy wrote:
Hmm - I've now done a quick trawl through some completed minis (15) (ones where the mod made it easy in post 1) and while not conclusive (sample too small) it appears I was talking crapIn post 346, Wolfy wrote:
Is it? I presume you mean the boredom bit?In post 324, sthar8 wrote:
This is lazy thinking. Everything else appears solid.In post 286, Wolfy wrote: 9. Most common reasons why people replace out: RL issues, boredom. Most common reason for boredom = VT role.
I will try and be not lazy and trawl though some completed games for stats to back this up. Maybe it doesn't happen like this here - we will see.
Anyways - it's not a huge issue - just a potential slight indicator.
The flake percentage is 33% overall. It's 34% for townies and 31% for scum - not significant (especially given the even smaller sample of scum)
I could go on trawling but I won't - I know when I'm wrong.
I retract point 9. I now don't think town is more likely to replace out than scum (at least not in Minis on this site )-
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As far as I can see, vonflare has voted three time, once on you, then a switch to kush (for a reason I can sort of agree with on day one), and then back to you. I cannot blame them for voting for you twice.In post 359, bjc wrote:And, BTW, he disappears every time he drops one of those garbage votes. So yeah, it's the best for today.
I don't know enough about the disappearing part, are they hiding in this game whilst posting elsewhere? That would be hiding, otherwise just feels like normal posting to me.-
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Why would you economies town? I don't follow that at all.In post 424, kushm4sta wrote:damn i was hoping he would flip scum then id be confirmed town.
so can anyone give me a summary of the game so far so i dont have to read everything?
This game doesn't have much content. You shouldn't be asking for summaries. Again.
I still hate you from yesterday with the whole "yeah I'm scum thing"
I see you contributing nothing. Post 448 is doing nothing.
I think as I go through my read through I am likely to place my vote back on you.-
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I miss this. Is this referring to another game on site?In post 425, sthar8 wrote:
It also means that we have a vig with a brain.In post 423, Slainte Mhath wrote:It kind of pisses me off that SiX died, it totally ruins the joke I was going to make at daystart
"With 11 alive, it takes SiX to lynch..."
fuck it, it wasn't that good a joke anyways.
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Six, it's nothing personal. But faking power to get a lynch is so catastrophically damaging to the town and so foolishly arrogant that it becomes correct play to policy lynch or kill anyone who would even consider it. It's gonna take some time and effort on your part to outgrow that reputation.-
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I found her much more active and useful than many others here (including myself). The attack over her one post elsewhere on the site is really pushing it.In post 437, Slandaar wrote:
Yeah! I think I also would like a summary of the game it would be really useful.In post 434, My Milked Eek wrote:I'm still here and I'm all for kushmaster's request for a synopsis
Anyways; I have a very strong feeling Elyse is scum, it is hard to explain why but basically she was activeish but not really active on D1 and not really lurkerish enough to be called out on it. She has positioned herself to not take heat from being a lurker but also isn't being productive; Her posting has been uninspired. And she was posting on ms yesterday but did not grace us with her presence.
VOTE: Elyse
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This is lazy. Like, a scum could just post this, buddy upto a townie, make themselves look good all with zero effort on their part. Would like some of your thinking about why you are giving them a passIn post 461, My Milked Eek wrote:Never mind, I went back and iso'd you. You're town.-
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Thank you. I was looking through his posts and didn't see anything.In post 476, sthar8 wrote:In post 323, Elyse wrote:@Pim
I just finished a game with SiX where he fakeclaimed doc as a VT to try to get me (town jailkeeper) lynched simply because he convinced himself I was scum. I literally cannot read him because he's reckless regardless of alignment apparently. My PL request on page 1 wasn't a complete joke.
My worst experience was lynch or lose, 3 vs 2 and a townie claimed a guilty cop verdict on me because he was sure I was scum.
The other townie came into the game, posted that they were cop with a guilty verdict and the first townie had a chance of withdrawing their vote but didn't....-
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Why would you be confirmed town. Sorry, I think I missed a space and it autocorrectedIn post 482, kushm4sta wrote:
Why would you economies town? I don't follow that at all.In post 474, geraintm wrote:In post 424, kushm4sta wrote:damn i was hoping he would flip scum then id be confirmed town.
so can anyone give me a summary of the game so far so i dont have to read everything?
This game doesn't have much content. You shouldn't be asking for summaries. Again.
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reading 20 pages of mafia is hard.
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We shall see. Unless someone is a cop, all accusations are baselessIn post 486, Slandaar wrote:
That is kinda the point. Do you think scum are more likely to be the most anti-town they can be or will they post enough to look active and useful but not really be doing anything?In post 477, geraintm wrote: I found her much more active and useful than many others here (including myself).
I like my vote very much, thank you for your baseless accusation though.In post 477, geraintm wrote: I can see you shifting it quickly to another wagon when one forms-
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Is if you are scum...In post 506, Slandaar wrote:
From what I can tell she has made about 5 posts.In post 492, Slainte Mhath wrote: She's really not
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I watched decided who I wanted to lynch and got them lynched that is being productive even if the outcome wasn't good.In post 493, Elyse wrote: This literally describes your day 1 play to a tee. I was productive on Day 1. Day 2? Not so much, but my life has been crazy busy and I haven't had time to myself for MS for an extended period of time until today.-
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I meant baseless as in without certainty.In post 507, Slandaar wrote:
Uh no. If this were true you may as well roll a dice to decide who is lynched each day.In post 498, geraintm wrote: We shall see. Unless someone is a cop, all accusations are baseless-
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Then why aren't you voting for me? And whyme? You had in post 467 said elk was the most scummy, since then you've made no comment about me until just saying I am now the most scummy?In post 520, Slainte Mhath wrote:Phone posting so quotes are too much of a pain in the ass and I'm not gonna do it.
The head that posted the cogdis question was me. There's cogdis between "vig SiX for trying to look like a PR" and "maybe I'm softing my kill"
My main scumread remains ger, I'm paranoid as fuck about sthar8 after being spanked like a bitch in two Antihero games, but I'm letting mine other head control our vote until I have something better to go on.
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What do you want from me?In post 533, Slainte Mhath wrote:The heads are not in agreement regarding who to vote for today. I feel that both ger and milked are not producing content. Theyre both making posts but if you read them and ISO them you realize they are fluff. I agree with bjc that ger needs to provide more content, especially after nearly being lynched yesterday. We're giving you another day to prove to us that you're town, ger, and so far you're doing jack shit to change our d1 read on you. The reason I'm leaving the vote on milked is because I'd like to get more posting from them. Yes, ger's posts are fluff but at least he's posting a lot. Milked needs to make more posts.
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I have voted kush, but they have disappeared from the game. I don't move my vote unless I see a good reason to move it, and I haven't yet seen anything spooky enough to make me want to move it.
So, I am sitting here and the person who I think is most likely to be scum isn't, so I can't be all over their posts, or changing my mind if they improve. I feel like in limbo. Like, my post 497. Kush hasn't come back to answer, so what am I to do?
Another person I have called out and said I didn't like their posts was elk in my 478. Again, they've disappeared.-
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Finding it hard to deal with them. If they were but one head, I would likely have voted for them for they way they have accused me out of nowhere. But as they are two I have to give them the benefit of the doubt about their posts. Not something g I like about themIn post 534, bjc wrote:unvote
How does everyone feel about SM? There just isn't enough discussion. Someone needs to get fucked up.
Not going to PL anyone, sorry. Maybe Ger, but that's it and it wouldn't be too much of a PL I think.-
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You are zero use.
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It doesn't matter if your opinions on the one guy haven't changed, there are way more people in the game than just them and you need to comment on them too. Having being absent from the game for so long, you can't just come back and go "nothing has changed, my vote hasn't moved"In post 562, kushm4sta wrote:i legit want to kill that guy, for reasons i already said. maybe read my filter you can learn something.
Scum could easily do what you have done and it needs calling out on.-
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In post 562, kushm4sta wrote:i legit want to kill that guy, for reasons i already said. maybe read my filter you can learn something.
JC?In post 563, bjc wrote:This post... JC
I agree with kushmasta
I stress, kush can have a legit reason for their vote, but they have to actually back it up with content. If they are town, they need to provide more text for us to go on. Right not they just look like scum skating along.-
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This is terrible. You are boasting on finding the limits you can not pay attention to this game?In post 569, kushm4sta wrote:oh shit is that the rule?? so if i read prod range one more time i get replaced?
i would like to know the exact degree to which i can legally afk from this game.
If you are In too many games where you cannot give them all a fair attention, back off.
But yeah, if you are town you are being unhelpful at the least, and I think you are scum trying to pass by with as little content as possible so no one can get a handle on you to actually find reasons to vote for you.-
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First @wake - are you going to do a post like that on everyoneIn post 587, Slainte Mhath wrote:Rereading elyse's ISO we actually get a town feel. She wants to talk to people when they're on and has been asking questions in the right way, not like bjc. I also agree with her vote on us. We have been lackluster. We've had individual things going on and have not been able to do a thorough read thru until today. At this point things are clearing up for us and we can focus more on this game
On élysé, I would rather they stay around than go. At least their posts make it easier late game to get a better read on scum/town. They are the person right now I think I am least likely to vote for.-
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In post 587, Slainte Mhath wrote:Rereading elyse's ISO we actually get a town feel. She wants to talk to people when they're on and has been asking questions in the right way, not like bjc. I also agree with her vote on us. We have been lackluster. We've had individual things going on and have not been able to do a thorough read thru until today. At this point things are clearing up for us and we can focus more on this game
I said Monday that I have 2 people I most dislike in this game and I am finding it hard to interact because they are both majorly absent.In post 589, bjc wrote:
HEY POT MEET KETTLEIn post 588, geraintm wrote:
It doesn't matter if your opinions on the one guy haven't changed, there are way more people in the game than just them and you need to comment on them too.In post 562, kushm4sta wrote:i legit want to kill that guy, for reasons i already said. maybe read my filter you can learn something.Having being absent from the game for so long, you can't just come back and go "nothing has changed, my vote hasn't moved"
Scum could easily do what you have done and it needs calling out on.
One came in with a one line post, the other has been replaced. This means it has still been hard for me to interact with this game.
I am looking forward to the replacements posts. I suspect through increased levels of activity they will go down my list of suspects. Just the way things go, but at least there will be content from the person.
I like how mainly others dislike kush in this game for similar reasons to me-
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I am confused what it is about me that you don't like?In post 602, Wolfy wrote:Three solid town reads for me - all beginning with S.
Problem is the 3 of them and me are all voting for a different person and we're 36 hours from deadline.
I was hoping for a lot more from wake88 - we need a lot more in the next 36 hours.
I just can't make my mind up about ger and kush.
is wake living up to your expectations?In post 579, sthar8 wrote:Wake, I'm informed by reliable sources that you're much more tolerable than you used to be. Prove them right, please.
I am expecting great things...In post 591, bjc wrote:Alrighty, I got some free time and I actually feel compelled to do something here. Gimme some time to read up and compile my thoughts.
Am I being inconsistent? Are my posts scummy? Do you think I am not posting enough or without enough content?
The last you might want to argue on, but compared to others I a regular chatterbox...-
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Why is a vote for kush bad?In post 608, bjc wrote:
I highly doubt it. Others will come in and call bullshit, but Elyse might let personal distaste get in the way and join while the opportunity is there.In post 607, bjc wrote:In post 604, kushm4sta wrote:In post 584, Slainte Mhath wrote:I'll start with bjc:
At first we thought he was town because we noticed his play was similar to his play in other games where he was town but now were starting to think he was emulating his town playstyle as scum. In post 82 you said elyse was being a fucktard. Why did she do that made you feel that way or was it arbitrary? We didn't like your interaction with six at all. It seems like you were buddying him hard. Then you made posts 162 and 163. Vonflare is scum then no he's not. What?! This seems like scum just trying to WIFOM. In post 197 he says his scum play is bad. Again a super scummy thing to say. In 206 he's buddying us. Seems like he's trying to form an associative tell. Post 410 he really wants the hammer to come down and then as soon as the next day starts, he's back on elyse. But by post 552 he now trusts elyse and goes with who she's voting.
Basically bjc is letting more and more of his scum shine through the more the game progresses. He's trying to set up something with every player to cover his own ass when he flips scum and his entire play reeks of scum scum scum. My phone is dying and I can't ISO anyone else atm so for now I'll put my vote here until I find a reason to move it.
VOTE: bjc
so people are buying this as genuine?
Or I could be wrong and I could be lynched in a bit, but that would require our player list to be filled with incompetent fools (and really, I don't think that's what we have).
But yeah, that is quite the crock of shit.
This is also pretty shitty.
Fixed for formatting issue.
Right now so close to deadline, I cannot see a wagon forming on anyone but kush. Think pretty universally agreed they are contributing nothing to the game, and no one else has been noticeably scummy.
Kush isn't defending themselves at all. Does anyone think, even if kush is town, we will be better off lynching someone else today?-
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I feel lynching kush right would give the remaining players a ton of info depending on the flip. Much, much more than us all running to a different target today where the only info we would get is someone pressuring us into a target not wanted by most people.
I may well be wrong about this, just the way I feel.-
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Of the people who voted for Von yesterday we have
Kush
Slander
Bjc
Élysé
Sthar
Six - died night one
Hear the lightning
Rest are still in the game
We have kush and bjc
Bjc trying very hard to not lynch kush.
If kush flips town, I would then tend to believe bjc was scum. I would then read bjc's play today as strongly trying to set themselves up as "I told you kush was innocent, therefore I must be town"
Élysé, said previously I have them down as the person I have as looking most town today
Rest, I couldn't really give any strong opinions on if their previous voting yesterday is likely to make them less or more scum. We didn't get any info overnight about alignments or anything, not very helpful. I don't remember yesterday anyone being strongly against voting Von, so I don't think we got any help from the flip either.
That is how I read the votes from yesterday and the fallout from the flip.-
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What did you tell us?In post 689, HearTheLightning wrote:I'd like to take a moment to say I told you so.
I'd also like to take a moment and say that I was completely wrong on SM, so good job on that.
I'll be posting my night comments tomorrow.
All you said was lynching kush was good because he was lurking and shouldn't be left alive at the end of the game. You never said you thought they were scum-
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In post 696, Wake1 wrote:Well, this changes things.
There's probably either a Serial Killer or a Town Vig in play.
Before Slainte's death, I was going to votebjc, because I found it odd how he had fought so hard to keepkushm4staalive. And then point my finger of suspicion atSlainte Maithe, and to a lesser extentgeraintm. Now withSlaintedead, I don't know how reasonable it is to still vote forbjc.
Also, we were fortunate withkush. I believed he was very anti-Town, but didn't have a decent Scumread on him. As for setup speculation, I get the feeling there's one more Mafioso in play, and either an SK or a Vig. I don't think there'd be two Mafia teams in a 13-player game on MS, but that could be gravely wrong.
I am assuming serial killer. I cannot see a vig getting a shot both nights.
Can someone tell me if it is likely in a game of this size if a 3 person team of mafia and a serial killer is considered balanced? Or is it likely to have been a 2 person mafia team with a serial killer?
Right now, bjc is just plain old weird to me, I'll get onto that more in a few posts time.-
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Oh,it was only one post time.
What is this vote bjc?
Seriously, what is it?
Why are you voting for me?
Do you consider me scum?
Because, right now,to me, I believe there should be no one in the village who thinks I am scum (if people think I am a serial killer, that is a different matter).
I voted for kush post 320. That old scum jokingly outing themselves as scum thing kush did back in 291.
And from that point on, I don't believe I voted anyone else. I didn't stop being on kush the rest of the game till he was dead. He never, ever did anything to make himself look not scummy to me.
If someone wants to argue that I was bussing him from way, way back then, then I would like to have that argument. But to me, I don't see how anyone can think I was a partner with kush.
Soooooo, bjc, why are you voting me?-
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I think last night serial killer went with shooting the last vote on the wagon, hoping to catch a reluctant scum joining in. Or maybe. Just wanted to clear the game of a hydra.
Reading the slainthe post 599 on their reads of everyone and their vote post 584.
They didn't seem to want to lynch their partner kush, but knew they had to be the end of the game. The way they said they wanted to lynch wake over kush means I don't think wake is the other scum (but could be sk).
They were also trying to lynch me and voted bjc earlier in the day, others might want to take that on board. Does make me think it is less likely bjc is the last scum though, though I still think bjc is behaving badly today.