Mini 1569: The Golden Cookie Heist! -End-

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Annihilator Beam

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...hm. I'll read over this thread first.

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kushm4sta

Sifting through his posts, he hasn't provided much content towards this game. Much of it are one-liners that hardly have any substance. In 44 he questioned why

bjc

claimed Scum, but that never happened. He does seem to think RVS is dumb in 55, but I suppose the jury's out on that. Vapid posts like 41, 57, and 243 don't really help us, either. His vote for

Elyse

was because he didn't like her vote, based on a collection of nitpicks. It'd be great if he could elaborate further.

So he can't be bothered, and figures he'll sheep whoever looks smart. 244. Not liking that. Get into the game, kush, or give someone else a shot (248). His disinterest isn't necessarily Scummy, but it's certainly anti-Town. 431 has some hope, seeing as he's actually asking someone to elaborate behind the motivations of one's post. You should do that more. Also, please go into more depth as to why you find

Slainte

Scummy, regarding 457. 543 is garbage.

A few questions, please.

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What are your thoughts on bjc's posting rate?

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Assuming you're Town, what would Scum-kushm4sta do?

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Who are the top 3 on your Scum list?

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Which player are you most curious of and why?

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Wolfy

He replaces

mnemonicdevice

in 285. 286 shows him as one that thinks out loud, so he goes into detail on various things. His #4 in that post does mention

bjc

, in that playing/posting style affecting people's reads too much, that if one doesn't like his posting style he must be Scum. I find that sentiment rather odd, considering his vote is still on me in spite of

MME

replacing out, and I only have 3 posts before this one. So how exactly that jives in spite of his current stance merits further elaboration. I don't post much because of having a busy life, but I do know analysis, and am strong in that element.

I also notice in that same post his first-pass read in his spoiler. Two people are leaning Scum there. Strangely, he says he's properly leaning Scum on one player, but that "that's 2 more scum not posting enough." So, he has two people leaning Scum in his reads list, yet he suspects one player and has two other people who aren't posting enough he thinks are Scum. Which begs the question: Does

Wolfy

believe there are two or three Scum in this game? His reads list and his subsequent comment in that post don't mesh.

More reasoning for why

Wolfy

suspected

geraintm

would be helpful. I haven't read

Eek

's posts, either, because I don't find it interesting. Your 567 stands out a bit, too, because you're hoping for a garrulous replacement in spite of 286. Post rate is neutral, and I think you know that. 602 in response to

sthar8

piqued my interest as well; you should talk further on that.

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What's your current read on kushm4sta?

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Are there any other Scumreads you have that haven't been shared yet?

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Do you have any other gut feelings to bring to the table?

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I haven't read MME's posts, but I would like to know why you suspected him.

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VOTE: kushm4sta

For being anti-Town.

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This is also pretty shitty.

Fixed for formatting issue.

What's shitty is him not playing the game, and blowing off posts directed towards him. That's called anti-Town behavior. If he's not here to play, and not here to care, then please replace. And why you're defending him for being a detriment to this game is a good question, too. If you're in this game, play it. Respond so we can gauge your behavior.

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"But then why doesn't he replace? We should lynch him anyway because he's not helping even if town ."

You know that's pretty anti town itself.

It's suddenly okay to lynch townies?

Realize for a second that you're openly calling for a town lynch.

The reason your reasoning's faulty is that we don't know if he's a Townie. What we do know is that he's very anti-Town. I suspect you already know this, though.

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Replacing into games is tough catch-up. Assuming I am alive Day 2 I will come through the gates swinging. When I replaced in I was unaware of the short window of time, and the emergency shifts I work take up some time.

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Well, this changes things.

There's probably either a Serial Killer or a Town Vig in play.

Before Slainte's death, I was going to vote

bjc

, because I found it odd how he had fought so hard to keep

kushm4sta

alive. And then point my finger of suspicion at

Slainte Maithe

, and to a lesser extent

geraintm

. Now with

Slainte

dead, I don't know how reasonable it is to still vote for

bjc

.

Also, we were fortunate with

kush

. I believed he was very anti-Town, but didn't have a decent Scumread on him. As for setup speculation, I get the feeling there's one more Mafioso in play, and either an SK or a Vig. I don't think there'd be two Mafia teams in a 13-player game on MS, but that could be gravely wrong.

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Alright. I'm a bit behind. Was going to read thread, but week-long crash happened. Will read up when able.

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Well, this changes things.

There's probably either a Serial Killer or a Town Vig in play.

Before Slainte's death, I was going to vote

bjc

, because I found it odd how he had fought so hard to keep

kushm4sta

alive. And then point my finger of suspicion at

Slainte Maithe

, and to a lesser extent

geraintm

. Now with

Slainte

dead, I don't know how reasonable it is to still vote for

bjc

.

Also, we were fortunate with

kush

. I believed he was very anti-Town, but didn't have a decent Scumread on him. As for setup speculation, I get the feeling there's one more Mafioso in play, and either an SK or a Vig. I don't think there'd be two Mafia teams in a 13-player game on MS, but that could be gravely wrong.

I am assuming serial killer. I cannot see a vig getting a shot both nights.
Can someone tell me if it is likely in a game of this size if a 3 person team of mafia and a serial killer is considered balanced? Or is it likely to have been a 2 person mafia team with a serial killer?

Right now, bjc is just plain old weird to me, I'll get onto that more in a few posts time.

Hm...

Since this is a 13-player game, I don't think 9:3:1 would be balanced. Although it's possible the reviewers would deem it so.

A Vig seems a bit more likely, because now there's a Townie with not only the ability to kill, but the ability to mess it up. Then again, I've played in games where it was multiball, 9:2:2, and it wasn't that bad. If it were 3 mafia and one SK, I suppose it's possible, but seems a bit scaled in Scum's favor. Two 2-player Scum teams scares me less than one 3-player team, and an SK only adds to the mix.

Whenever there's the possibility of there being a 3-player Scum team at play, I assume the worst, in order to be prepared, instead of assuming two Scum and then finding out there's really three.

Yeah, if you'd explain more on bjc being weird that'd help. Do you have any experience with him in past games, like info that could help us?

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The latest crash destroyed my interest in and willingness to sort out who's who in this game.Better to give someone else a shot.

Kalimar, sorry, but I need to replace out. I have to deal with the crash ramifications.

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Perfectly fine for them to want to. But when you sign up for a game, that's a commitment to the mod and the other players. Replacing out because "I don't feeeel like it" or "it's inconvenient" is a huge "fuck you" to all those people, and an especially large insult to someone like Eek, who was forced to replace for a legitimate reason.

Wake has repeatedly impressed upon me his willingness to let his arrogance and selfishness negatively impact others. He gets no sympathy here.

That's crap, and you were a coward for insulting me like that when you knew I couldn't respond to you until the game was over.

I replaced into a game, and then the whole site crashed for a week. That's a damned good reason right there to replace out.