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Not really much posting to do, the miller claim bores me and RVS feels strangely not over and I tend to avoid itI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Oh a little more. Sat on the reply screen for a while...
I actually didn't like that all random.org read list someone posted.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I think he's town I guess because I agree with him about BroodkingEXE, who I think could be scum. About you idk but I'd be hard pressed to find scum on your wagon, none of the votes ping on my scumdar except don_johnson's if I look at it a certain way.In post 93, Boonskiies wrote:Well, thoughts on the Konowa? Like you said, the RVS seemed not over, and yet I have 4 votes on me. At least one of them are scum.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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This occurred to me tooIn post 103, Konowa wrote: But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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for you people concerned with meta, I just won a scum gameI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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so what you're saying is you're not really doing anything with your lifeI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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there's a lot of possibilitiesIn post 165, Antihero wrote:disregard it. it's null.
what's going to magically happen on days 3 or 4 that's going to help you sort it?
cop claim or flip
NK or vig shot
we could lynch a godfather
etc.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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that it makes sense to wait and see if any of a number of possible things that could happen that would make the miller claim more believable actually do happen.In post 171, Antihero wrote:jeez, i have to go into MD mode?
1) cop doesn't confirm miller's existenceIn post 168, evilpacman18 wrote:
there's a lot of possibilitiesIn post 165, Antihero wrote:disregard it. it's null.
what's going to magically happen on days 3 or 4 that's going to help you sort it?
cop claim or flip
NK or vig shot
we could lynch a godfather
etc.
2) vig the miller claim on policy? ok.... doesn't help us sort the miller claim
3) godfather doesn't confirm miller's existence either
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noooope you're scumIn post 326, Antihero wrote:that's because half the playerlist hasn't even addressed it yetI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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my content is shitty in this game.
why am I scumI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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there you go again shutting down important and good town questionsI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I like you.
I hope you won't take this personally.
Anti's superiority complex atm is scum ego probably. He's probably bussing someone too. my guess is DJ. I know because I get like that as scum too. Get carried away being in a position where you're just fucking people and it's super fun.
I guess I'll catch up now though.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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but really though, if I can pop in, read a couple of your posts and tell you're scum without even being caught up on the whole game, that just makes me more sure that you pulled scum this time. It has nothing to do with me projecting my meta onto you, you just have that red-in-my-inbox mentality thing going on bruhI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I'm down to 1v1 though, maybe that'll be the extra push to start tryingI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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a town bloc would also help so I'd be cool with that.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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yes that is the classical argument for why town blocs are scummy, thank you.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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However, strong town reads from either alignment tend to be reasonably reliable.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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This is a textbook opportunistic wagon, what surprises me is that Guyett is on it when he was against another similar wagon earlier, I forget who. Two scum minimum and I'm guessing Anti and either Guyett or Misaka. They should know better. Reinoe and Konowa should just be ashamed.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Full disclosure, I never play two games at a time and I am right now because it just worked out that way and I need to dedicate some time to this but I'll probably be skimming for another RL day or two.
Actually let's just
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sorry I didn't get back in time. At least this gives me time to read up.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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from like middle of page 6 because this is the first thing that pinged:
Guyett looks scummy in response to reinoe saying he is an RVS vote leftover. Especially with reinoe's tone in that post, it's pretty forced to read him as scum from it. Like that's clear anti-town but not scum play and Guyett would have picked up on that I think.
Anti picking up on that is comforting. so is 144
I don't think reinoe is scum after his turn around on how Konowa should be responded to... I think scum would tunnel that town read. And given Chevre interactions with reinoe I think he's pretty town.
don_johnson, I had a scum read on him at some point. I think I'm coming back to that.
moving back towards town on Guy around 207
Boonskiies is super looking out for Chevre in 321, doesn't seem like he would've been concerned about anyone else like that? associative tell?
huh about 326... I guess context is important. Sorry Anti.
I can't think of a better word for dj's posts than flaccid and he's never seemed that way to me in the past
ok that's half. the other half soon.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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someone tell me if we're still feeling the same as p.15 on dj scumI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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what part of that seems like "trying to play off not knowing" to you without you having to project some intent that's nowhere to be found in the posts onto me?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I think you just don't get the concept of catch up posting. If I suddenly just appeared and had reads everyone would have to be asking me a bazillion questions about how I came to my conclusions. Catch up posting, at least the way I intend it, just covers some essential read-related thoughts that I've had so that if let's say I finish my read and vote DJ, there's some chronological trail in my short notes that leads to that being an understandable conclusion for me. It's essentially short nuggets of posts that I would have elaborated more on probably if I was actually present at the time the posts I'm reading were more relevant.
In post 745, chaoslord54 wrote:
Also, you were never a supporter on the lynching of Chevre and although I was hesitant at first, I still leaned on the idea that Chevre was scum. You though never supported it. So I call scum.
this isn't even worth a response.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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In post 749, chaoslord54 wrote:In post 746, evilpacman18 wrote:I think you just don't get the concept of catch up posting. If I suddenly just appeared and had reads everyone would have to be asking me a bazillion questions about how I came to my conclusions. Catch up posting, at least the way I intend it, just covers some essential read-related thoughts that I've had so that if let's say I finish my read and vote DJ, there's some chronological trail in my short notes that leads to that being an understandable conclusion for me. It's essentially short nuggets of posts that I would have elaborated more on probably if I was actually present at the time the posts I'm reading were more relevant.
That may explain some of it, but you still haven't really answered on how you missed that Reinoe was dead.
So what? Does it make sense that I would have forgotten that if I was involved in killing him?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I am thinking more and more that Boonskiies is scum. I can sniff out noob town a mile away but this isn't that, 416 and especially 421 are somehow scummy to me even thiugh they're just promises to get back to the game. They reek of appeasement which is totally a noob scum thing.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Well I just said what Chevre said a few pages after where I was reading soooo nvm?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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In post 479, BroodKingEXE wrote:In post 477, Chevre wrote:Sorry, I slacked and took a day off.
Post 434: Aneninen, I just pick whatever I feel needs responding to. Do you suggest something else? I ask seriously, because my education of how to play here has been rough even though I've been here many years.
Post 436: Antihero, I think you can "unintentionally" AtE. the parenthetical reference near the end of this post, 436, for example. You obviously wanted us to be reminded of your emotional crackage and take that into account when judging you. I don't think AtE is scummy because any player is liable to get emotionally invested and their feelings hurt, but I'm confused as to why you've put yourself in such a conspicuous role of leadership if you're so susceptible to breaking down. Maybe it's more psychological than it's worth getting into for the purposes of this game.
Posts 425, 438, and 470 from Aneninen; the emotion feels forced to me. Like he's scum and everyone around him is cracking and he's trying to insert himself into a mediator's position.
Post 447: Antihero's "1v1" comment is super perplexing, considering that no one is voting him, or barely suspecting him at all? But if he's scum it'd have to be some bizarre bussing situation where once the "1v1" leads to epm's lynch he'll be vindicated in the eyes of town--but he's seen as pretty town by so many already?
Unvote, vote Boonskiies
That reinoe vote, while I'm not entirely discrediting it, feels wrong. Meanwhile, I was looking through the players, because it feels like 75% have fallen victim to the noise of the other 25%, but Boonskiies' ISO is incredibly scummy.
A: Post 64 has a "why me fry me" which is especially unnecessary given that he later acknowledges in 87 that this wagon was little to worry about, and uses this to suspect Konowa
B: Post 201 is blatant newb card
C: Post 318 and 321, joins my wagon while adding no additional reasoning, then in 321 seems to get nervous about me getting quickwagon-lynched
D: Post 416, 421, 460, which are three promises to contribute in a row.
It feels like Boonskiies is newbie scum to me.
Sorry bout my LA guys, lots of work came up, but I'm back now and am reading up. I quite honestly don't think that he is scum as of now. I'll agree that he hasn't done shit in this game, but it feels too much like a townie who is trying to stay with the game rather then a scum trying to lurk to victory.
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In post 586, chaoslord54 wrote:In post 585, reinoe wrote:In post 580, chaoslord54 wrote:Okay this is my case against Reinoe.
Spoiler:
Again, overall I feel imo that Reinoe is being manipulative, panicky, and is riding an easy argument through the first day whilc trying to switch sides without much explanation whenever it's convenient for him.
That case is terrible and I'll pick it apart tomorrow because formatting on a phone is a pain in the butt.
Chaoslord is probably scum.
If it's terrible it's because it is my first time really trying to present a full case and my wording my not be the best. Also, if I need to claim to make you know I'm not scum I will. I don't want to just because I think it's better for me to keep my role hidden for now but I will if need be
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oops that wasn't supposed to be quoted but I was gonna say that post seems spot on to me.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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dj: where was it supposed to become clear to me that you are not scum?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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has some shitty reasoning in some places ("me and Misaka aren't scum together, we hardly even talk to each other") which is probably why the scum reads but I still think he's town.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I'm townreading all of us though. If anyone not Bert but he doesn't seem opportunistic to me. Second vote with a long gap after the firstI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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I suppose it depends on your read on me from your PoVI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Chaoslord will probably work itself out.
For me, will it make you feel better if I explain my vote on him more?I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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This is a solid wagon. I still think we hit rightI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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One of Konowa or chaos has to be scum I think =\I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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It would be hilarious if Anti is scum cuz I called that without reading but I'd prefer this first
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There's not so much a case against Konowa as much as just condemning PoE. We have a JK and a tracker and I don't believe there would be a useless miller in the setup.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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