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In post 23, Lapsa wrote:In post 22, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I don't know a cheetah or tiger?
Hint: it is not a monkey
lynch all lairs.
unvot...
un..
vot...
you are just lucky my vote button is broken.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 50, Wake1 wrote:Aeronaut,Luca,Katie,Aneninen&MonkeyMan: What do you guys think and feel regarding 46?
I'd like to lean on you guys and have your input, including anyone else here who wants to work together as a team.
how do you define fluff?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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he has posted 4 times today, 10 times yesterday, he has confirmed is role here, but is not posting here.
hurry up Ollie...I want to see that "I forgot about this game post".NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 58, Wake1 wrote:
That said, I don't think all fluffiness should be outlawed. Some fluff is alright, so long as it stays within reason.
what is an acceptable fluff to content ratioonDay 1in the first 5 pages ?
which is more damning (in your opinion) in those first 5 pages, posting fluff or confirming but not posting in the game (but posting elsewhere on site)?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 67, Wake1 wrote:
Hm. If you confirm, but not post in the game you confirmed, but have been posting elsewhere on site... I feel that's a bit more suspicious than fluffing in the first few pages.
what are your thoughts on my vote on ollie?
also I didnt answer your "help me get to know you" question post. your thoughts on that?
I think Lapsa might be town, seems too ballsy/coy to be a scum (this being said, if I get some time tomorrow, might read some of lapsa's games). thoughts on that?
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In post 83, Lapsa wrote:In post 81, curiouskarmadog wrote:Lapsa you could save me some time though, you play so nonchalantly as scum?
I got thousand faces and they all look same
okay, so I will meta then.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 85, KatieB wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
how closely would you say you are reading the game?
I'm reading the game, but I haven't checklisted the playerlist against the posts. I figured someone else would already have done it, making that a waste of my time.
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In post 112, sthar8 wrote:I am neither of those, nor are they indicative of scum. Please explain how any of his reasoning makes sense.
wait what? so was this a lie? can you answer his question now?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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curiouskarmadog wrote:
how closely would you say you are reading the game?
I'm reading the game, but I haven't checklisted the playerlist against the posts. I figured someone else would already have done it, making that a waste of my time.[/quote]
so you have seen my posts then right?[/quote]
if you have seen my posts, where is my vote and why?
to be clear, this is coming from this post.
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fixed
if you have seen my posts, where is my vote and why?
to be clear, this is coming from this post.
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also....
In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,
is utter fucking bullshit.
I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?
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In post 129, KatieB wrote:@ ckd- you're still on your randomvote for ollie. You might be pushing him for not posting,but I dont like the pushand I dont see how it's relevant.
soooo...if you know where/why my vote is, why are you asking if everyone is here?
at this point in the game, why dont you like my vote/push?
you clearly been around for awhile so I am trying to figure out if you really believe bolded.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 131, MonkeyMan576 wrote:In post 128, curiouskarmadog wrote:also....
In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Being defensive and emotional is indicative of scum,
is utter fucking bullshit.
I play emotional..I play hot. I am telling you I do this now...most likely I am going to get fucking super pissed in the game and get angry and emotional (thus my title) am I scum?
MM, are you telling me you have never seen town get emotional or defensive?
I said it is indicative, I didn't say it is a 100% indicator. More often than not, scum get emotional and defensive when wagoned more than town do.
have you ever seen scum support a vote based on "X is emotional and defensive"...(for your reference, I love to meta).NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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unvote, vote Monkey Man.
still pushing the defensive=scum thing...and taking actions out of context.
she/he (which is it?) has been answering questions and addressing posts about her. If she had ignored one, would she then be guilty of ignoring a posts? Something doesnt feel genuine here.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 170, Lapsa wrote:douche dog, be so kind and dig up some games of this star8 creature
would appreciate some help
how about you do it captain coy, I will double check you for accuracy. got a couple other things I would like to look up, that is a bit more pressing me thinks.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 178, Aeronaut wrote:Page 4-5
In post 66, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 58, Wake1 wrote:
That said, I don't think all fluffiness should be outlawed. Some fluff is alright, so long as it stays within reason.
what is an acceptable fluff to content ratioonDay 1in the first 5 pages ?
which is more damning (in your opinion) in those first 5 pages, posting fluff or confirming but not posting in the game (but posting elsewhere on site)?
This seems like
"How much bullshit can I post without anyone suspecting me?"
so I am trying to figure out if you REALLY think that is what I am doing in this quote, were just skimming as you read, trying to be funny, or if you scum trying to paint a picture by taking a quote out of context? I know in catch up posts, people tend to not really read thoroughly, but I am curious.
please address this...for I will have follow up questions.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Ollie has not posted in the game at all (the others have), but is posting all over the site.
that being said, at this point if Ollie was scum lurking and waiting to see where wagons were going before committing to anything, I think he would have posted here by now especially after me calling him out for lurking.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Okay I got about 20-30 minutes to attempt to catch up.
First of all, for whoever asked (or commented on it) I was asking Wake about fluff, because at the time I thought the conversation about fluff on Day 1 was silly. I was curious what he deemed scummier, a post with fluff or someone who isn’t posting in here, but is elsewhere on site. Fluff on day one is nothing. It is the majority of posts in the first 10 pages. But what Ollie was doing WAS scummy in my book.
Which leads me to the next question somebody asked (not going back all the way to find who). Do I want to lynch lurkers….short answer…yes. Long answer, no? Meaning, Ollie wasn’t just a lurker. He wasn’t posting at all here AND he was very active in other games. I find that day 1 scum DO that. They will lurk and let a shitty wagon build on someone and jump in just a little and not commit to very much so they cant be ISOed later….I recently nailed scum for doing the EXACT SAME THING. Now. It is moot. Ollie was replaced…so my suspicion might not be valid. But also my vote isn’t on him now.
Okay reading at about page 10..if there is anything before that needs to be commented on. Please repost. I don’t have time to be as thorough as I would like to be.
In post 236, llll wrote:KatieB is being super defensive right now, which seems scummy to me,
What the fuck?!
BEING DEFENSIVE/EMOTIONAL = SCUMMY IS BULLSHIT….BULLLLLLSHIT. I get defensive all the time…as town….AND as scum. I hate hate hate, when person X is being asked a ton of questions and when the post to answer those questions, people (usually scum) point the figure and say…you are being defensive. No…no they are not.
If Katie did ANYTHING scummy, it was disappearing when the heat dropped on her.
EDIT: (back to lurking, I went back to see if Katie was posting else where in this alt or her other…she/he is not..that being said, I would have found THAT scummy too)
In post 264, MonkeyMan576 wrote:It's very simple. Scum are more self aware in general than town.
Town, as you say, try to collaborate and collectively find scum.
Scum get defensive easily, use poor arguments, and get upset over little things(emotional).
So I don't see how I wasn't clear.
quote EXACTLY where Katie was being defensive. also the first two paragraphs of this post could be deemed defensive...am I scummy?
In post 298, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Evidently I have poor people and logic skills.
now who is being emotional?
That being said, what scum hunting have you done today?
In post 313, Luca Blight wrote:In post 221, curiouskarmadog wrote:also for those who are curious as to why I have issues with lurkers (who are posting else where) check out the last game I was in...it is current, so cant say more than that. might shed some light.
This comes across a little self-conscious...it's pretty obvious why lurkers are bad, so I don't see why he feels the need to justify this view. Pushes on someone who hasn't posted at all, even if they have posted elsewhere, are pretty pointless though.
did you check my last game out to see if I was lying? to see if my pov checks out? why or why not?
In post 327, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm not certain who is more scummy between Lapsa and Katie so I'll refrain from voting at the moment.
why?
In post 333, Wake1 wrote:Hey guys, haven't forgotten. Just really busty at the moment.
quit bragging.
Caught up on the most part…still good with my vote.
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In post 417, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Those two statements are both assumptive and incorrect. It would be scummy of me to start a new wagon if there is a better wagon to be on, which there is. I have repeatedly stated my reasoning, which is sound.
can you please address my 404 post.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 431, Aneninen wrote:In post 418, Lapsa wrote:I likeMonkey'sfluency of thought.
Will unvote for now.
vote: MonkeyMan576
????!!
Just why, Lapsa, why?!?
Keep producing shytty posts and shytty context for your votes and you're get lynched because of them. Possible scum or possible useless townie, that's my read on you right now.
(Reading the latest posts thoroughly and answering them will happen later; need to go to work right now.)
wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 440, Luca Blight wrote:It isn't L-1 cos lll voted KatieB.
I am curious...why correct him?
if everyone was under the impression we were at -1, it might have provided some insight. So what purpose was this post?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 447, Luca Blight wrote:In post 445, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 440, Luca Blight wrote:It isn't L-1 cos lll voted KatieB.
I am curious...why correct him?
if everyone was under the impression we were at -1, it might have provided some insight. So what purpose was this post?
1) Why would you assume that everyone else would have missed llll's vote?
2) What insight could we have got if I didn't mention it?
3) Why are you asking such stupid f*cking questions?
did you answer the question? what was the purpose of the post?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 446, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Maybe because they are scum buddies, and Luca knows that Illl voting me is good way to get a town lynched.
who is they?
and why the fuck are YOU avoiding my questions...answer now please.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 451, droog wrote:karma, how do you feel about voting lapsa with me
either as a policy lynch for him to start making content
or because you suspect him for not making contetn
which he showed at game start he was able to do
how doyoufeel about "X is being defensive/emotional is clearly scummy" attack/vote?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 451, droog wrote:
or because you suspect him for not making contetn
which he showed at game start he was able to do
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In post 404, curiouskarmadog wrote:Okay I got about 20-30 minutes to attempt to catch up.
First of all, for whoever asked (or commented on it) I was asking Wake about fluff, because at the time I thought the conversation about fluff on Day 1 was silly. I was curious what he deemed scummier, a post with fluff or someone who isn’t posting in here, but is elsewhere on site. Fluff on day one is nothing. It is the majority of posts in the first 10 pages. But what Ollie was doing WAS scummy in my book.
Which leads me to the next question somebody asked (not going back all the way to find who). Do I want to lynch lurkers….short answer…yes. Long answer, no? Meaning, Ollie wasn’t just a lurker. He wasn’t posting at all here AND he was very active in other games. I find that day 1 scum DO that. They will lurk and let a shitty wagon build on someone and jump in just a little and not commit to very much so they cant be ISOed later….I recently nailed scum for doing the EXACT SAME THING. Now. It is moot. Ollie was replaced…so my suspicion might not be valid. But also my vote isn’t on him now.
Okay reading at about page 10..if there is anything before that needs to be commented on. Please repost. I don’t have time to be as thorough as I would like to be.
In post 236, llll wrote:KatieB is being super defensive right now, which seems scummy to me,
What the fuck?!
BEING DEFENSIVE/EMOTIONAL = SCUMMY IS BULLSHIT….BULLLLLLSHIT. I get defensive all the time…as town….AND as scum. I hate hate hate, when person X is being asked a ton of questions and when the post to answer those questions, people (usually scum) point the figure and say…you are being defensive. No…no they are not.
If Katie did ANYTHING scummy, it was disappearing when the heat dropped on her.
EDIT: (back to lurking, I went back to see if Katie was posting else where in this alt or her other…she/he is not..that being said, I would have found THAT scummy too)
In post 264, MonkeyMan576 wrote:It's very simple. Scum are more self aware in general than town.
Town, as you say, try to collaborate and collectively find scum.
Scum get defensive easily, use poor arguments, and get upset over little things(emotional).
So I don't see how I wasn't clear.
quote EXACTLY where Katie was being defensive. also the first two paragraphs of this post could be deemed defensive...am I scummy?
In post 298, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Evidently I have poor people and logic skills.
now who is being emotional?
That being said, what scum hunting have you done today?
In post 313, Luca Blight wrote:In post 221, curiouskarmadog wrote:also for those who are curious as to why I have issues with lurkers (who are posting else where) check out the last game I was in...it is current, so cant say more than that. might shed some light.
This comes across a little self-conscious...it's pretty obvious why lurkers are bad, so I don't see why he feels the need to justify this view. Pushes on someone who hasn't posted at all, even if they have posted elsewhere, are pretty pointless though.
did you check my last game out to see if I was lying? to see if my pov checks out? why or why not?
In post 327, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm not certain who is more scummy between Lapsa and Katie so I'll refrain from voting at the moment.
why?
In post 333, Wake1 wrote:Hey guys, haven't forgotten. Just really busty at the moment.
quit bragging.
Caught up on the most part…still good with my vote.
Hey Wake, why aren’t you voting someone?
In post 437, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 417, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Those two statements are both assumptive and incorrect. It would be scummy of me to start a new wagon if there is a better wagon to be on, which there is. I have repeatedly stated my reasoning, which is sound.
can you please address my 404 post.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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okay we can take it slow if you need to. What was the purpose of pointing it out?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 456, Luca Blight wrote:
Why would scum:
a) Do that one day 1, thus incriminating themselves in the process
b) Hammer without checking the vote count first?
At what point would it have been acceptable to point out it isn't actually L-1?
who knows? but you didnt give anybody a chance to do so. but a quick hammer was not the only thing that could have been gleaned from people thinking it was -1.
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In post 458, llll wrote:In post 449, curiouskarmadog wrote:if X thought MM was at -1, and hammered (out of no where) thinking it was indeed the hammer....that would have said a lot.
now quit being a dick, and answer the fucking question.
In case Luca's second attempt at explaining things to you didn't work, let me try as well. Assuming everyone is as dumb at counting as you are does not actually make it so. Dispelling confusion is helpful and helps the town. Deliberately lying and sowing confusion only helps the scum. Why in the world would you lie and try to have an accidental lynch?
If I had a second vote, I'd throw it at you.
Really now? there is a big fucking difference in letting people believe something AND lying. explain to me exactly how I was trying to have an accidental lynch? if MM was at -2, where was the accidental lynch? If others thought MM was at -1, it would be interesting to see what people did. and hey asshole, i never said anyone was at -1 did I?
So explain to me the scum motivation behind letting people think someone is at -1? What EXACTLY did I do that was scummy, other than ask Luca why he said something?
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In post 459, Aneninen wrote:
In post 438, curiouskarmadog wrote:
wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.
Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?
you are attacking him for his vote
In post 438, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 431, Aneninen wrote:In post 418, Lapsa wrote:I likeMonkey'sfluency of thought.
Will unvote for now.
vote: MonkeyMan576
????!!
Just why, Lapsa, why?!?
Keep producing shytty posts and shytty context for your votes and you're get lynched because of them. Possible scum or possible useless townie, that's my read on you right now.
(Reading the latest posts thoroughly and answering them will happen later; need to go to work right now.)
wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.
He is voting someone that you supposedly think is scum...why attack him on his vote? what was the motivation behind it. IF MM is scum, was his vote bad?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 465, MonkeyMan576 wrote:RE: Lapsa/Katie, if two people are equally scummy, it makes more sense to wait than to vote right away and have to change your vote later.
RE: Katie being defensive and emotional, pretty much every post she has made. She is far too self aware to be town, in my opinion.
RE Scumhunting, I think I've pretty much nailed down Lapsa and Katie as scum, I'm not sure what more scumhunting I need to do in day 1.
give me an example post (dont say every post) where you think Katie is being defensive (and clearly scummy).NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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got a minute.
bottom line.
droog do you think being defensive/emotional is scummy?
I do that all the time. I will do it this game, because I play hot...am I scummy for doing so?
I asked Monkey to provide a particular post where he deemed that katie was being defensive/emotional (scummy) which made him vote her (had to ask twice). He said all of her posts, i asked him for one in particular and he has again not provided one.
Do you think these actions from Monkey are from someone who is town and really believes his case?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 660, Lapsa wrote:In post 656, Aneninen wrote:That would be f-cking illegal being with two alts in the same game.
yes, but game is in progress. so Riddleton can't do shit about that. gonna sort it out postgame
if this is true then the below doesnt make any sense.
so let me get this straight. are you saying (in 674), you are being anti-town/scummy so that you get lynched...so that when you flip town, we lynch MM?
because wasnt MM very close to being lynched before you did this?
are you town?
are you really playing two alts in the game?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 678, Lapsa wrote:In post 676, curiouskarmadog wrote:jesus, i am just confused now.
I never said I was confused, more misrepping
I never said you were confused. I am.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Mod I need to you to address this is some manner. I dont think he is really playing two alts. But if he is, we need to address this in the game.
In post 677, Lapsa wrote:In post 675, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 660, Lapsa wrote:In post 656, Aneninen wrote:That would be f-cking illegal being with two alts in the same game.
yes, but game is in progress. so Riddleton can't do shit about that. gonna sort it out postgame
[1] if this is true then the below doesnt make any sense.
[2] so let me get this straight. are you saying (in 674), you are being anti-town/scummy so that you get lynched...so that when you flip town, we lynch MM?
[3] because wasnt MM very close to being lynched before you did this?
[4] are you town?
[5] are you really playing two alts in the game?
1. true
2. no
3. no. that wagon wasn't going anywhere. and he pushed mine not because there was pressure on him, but because there wasn't and he felt safe enough
4. true
5.yesNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 716, droog wrote:wake youre pushing this a little too hard
instead of compalining that youre scumread for not posting content
why not post some content
i know you're busy but
surely you can read enough to form one scumread and vote on it
((that isnt realetd to you being scumread))
this.
speaking of posting content, I am hoping to get to this game (reread) this weekend.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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okay rereading, nothing is changing my view of MM. MM (or katie maybe) would have been the lynch yesterday if lap hadnt pulled his fuck baggery.
looking at Luca, who knows why he was killed.
it looks like before flipping to Lapsa he was pushing/voting Katie. he also called some of my questions shitty. he did do ISOs on evilpacman and Anen and indicated in both (evilpacman = strong scum vibes and Anen = case could be made against him) he also said he was going to look into anen's meta.
want to check a couple things (meta) and reread one more time exactly how the lynch went down yesterday (though I imagine it will be fruitless).
vote MonkeyMan
this is a fine place to put my vote while I do this.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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WTH? why is it every time a wagon builds on MM, another wagon pops up for little reason and speeds forward with little regard? Why do I have a feeling that IIII is going to flip town?
but this fucking switch isnt? and if it was so suspicious why didnt you vote him when the day started?
no I am not buying this bullshit.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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In post 753, Aeronaut wrote:I wanted to lynch Monkeyman, but yea, nobody would get on the wagon. Gotta do something more productive for now. Also, why do you assume |||| is getting lynchrd just because there's four voted on him?
if you want MM lynched, why did you flip your vote?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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no, i have some other scum vibes (not as strong as reads), but I have been in so many fucking games where scum push a crap lynch based on someone being "emotional/defensive". Maybe I have just have mafia scars. but 4 times out of 5, this is a scum doing it. So I am sticking to this. AND NOW, that once again something starts to develop on him (yeah I know it was only 2 votes, droog) something else comes along so fast and he is again forgotten.
Why does no one else see this? Also, what about Monkey's vote on IIII, why is that not scummy?
fuck
maybe I am tunneling on MM, but I think he is a scum bag.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE