*GAME OVER* Mini 1690 - Zed's Tavern! (Mafia Win!)

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VOTE: billi

Cause omgus

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How can logic make no logic? Logic is by definition logic. It's a tautology

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Guys! Lets stay focused on Aeroscum and Zakk's hard defense of him.

Hard defense? You mean him asking why?

Did that get scummy when I wasn't paying attention?

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Looks like it. And I can't get a new picture small enough to replace it.

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Problem is I'm on a kindle don't have the full resources of a laptop. mostly cause I'm an idiot when it comes to tech

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How on earth do you conclude that zakk?

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Serious vote

VOTE: zakk

I dislike the attitude. And the posts have been lacking.

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Serious vote

VOTE: zakk

I dislike the attitude. And the posts have been lacking.

Now we're cooking with gas.

So dragonspawn, tell me about your experience playing mafia here. I haven't seen you around before.

Hey everybody, btw, RVS is over now. *whew*

Well I average between 3-5 games at a time. Currently doing five. Well known to many of our current crop of players. Odds are I'm going to get into a fight with passion by the end of the game since we have playing styles that clash often.

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Serious vote

VOTE: zakk

I dislike the attitude. And the posts have been lacking.

Now we're cooking with gas.

So dragonspawn, tell me about your experience playing mafia here. I haven't seen you around before.

Hey everybody, btw, RVS is over now. *whew*

Well I average between 3-5 games at a time. Currently doing five. Well known to many of our current crop of players. Odds are I'm going to get into a fight with passion by the end of the game since we have playing styles that clash often.

Ugh I used to do that. Now I've decided to stick to one, it helps me focus/stay interested much more

Can you answer my question though?

Which one?

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With pisskop. Stupid autocorrect.

I say that often too

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Reasons for voting Aero are secret right now because I'm waiting to see if it continues.

this is what scum says when they don't have a reason.

Agree with this

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Lol 180. That was good. Dragon really carried the day.

That was 181. You scum won 180

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That's fast. They take things seriously in this bar.

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No. you are at L1

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VOTE: zakk

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Serious vote

VOTE: zakk

I dislike the attitude. And the posts have been lacking.

@Dragonspawn what is there to dislike?

Dragon can you answer this? You have a serious vote on Zakk. What didn't you like about his attitude? Also, "his posts are lacking" seems vague to me. I mean, if you look my posts, I don't think I'd said much really at that point either. You didn't feel the need to vote me? Or pressure me? Look at Mahonster, who is still in RVS apparently. Why didn't you go after him over Zakk if all it was was "posts are lacking"?

Because he keeps acting as if he is doing something but he isn't. He isn't giving any explanation. He expects us to take him seriously yet he hasn't given us any substance. And it was even less when I made my vote.

You had quite a bit of pressure already. And it seems like posting while doing nothing is a bit worse than not posting anyway. Others will get the proper attention when I'm satisfied with my current focus.

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You could have at least let him react to my fake hammer. I wanted to see what he would do.

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You could have at least let him react to my fake hammer. I wanted to see what he would do.

He already realized he wasnt at L-1 though.

Check his last post.

He was at L1 though.

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He was L1. I couldn't have lynched him since I was already on the wagon. I was hoping to see his reaction

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Well if he is scum he might think he was hammered and confess that he is scum. It does happen.

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Vote: zakk

Yeah, this needs to die with fire.

Also.

WHAT UP PISSKOP

Why does he need to die with fire?

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Vote: zakk

Yeah, this needs to die with fire.

Also.

WHAT UP PISSKOP

Unvote
Vote: zakk

Aeronaut is still suspicious, as is SilverWolf.

Why did you vote for zakk?

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... VOTE: zakk AND THEREBY PUT HIM AT L-1 !

Why did you feel the need to put him at L1?

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grimm-Why does zakk need to be lynched with fire?

I was very unhappy with the way he said he was voting Aero for ::reeeeeeasssssooooonnnnssss:: and wanted to keep those secret for the time being (which is fine and all, except that:) and then asked pisskop what he thought zakk's reasons were. That seemed like scum looking for reasons to back up their vote on someone. Zakk stated in his post where he voted Aero that RVS was over and his vote was serious, making it seem like scum!zakk knew he'd have to commit to something, so why not jump on someone that already had 3 votes on them?

That being said, dragon can be tossed into the town pile, and zakk can now hang out there for the time being too, pisskop seems iffy to me, and I superserious don't like Chevre right now. Chevre's vote on zakk while also throwing suspicion on Aero (the person zakk was voting?) and silverwolf seems real bad.

Vote:Chevre

Like this reasoning. Out of all the votes for zakk chevre was the scummiest imho.

VOTE: chevre

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she

Enjoy that.

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Ill be gone for the day

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I never faked an intent to hammer. I just faked the hammer.

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I agree with pisskop though that people who are quiet need to post more, although that kind of contradicts what he was saying earlier.

I like Dragonspawn this game for some reason.

Would be fine with a chevre lynch today, to be honest. I don't plan on voting there quite yet, though. I don't feel like dealing with a LOLhammer. I'm not ready for the day to be over. But consider my vote there.

You should like me.I'm a likeable guy.

I like you this game too so far.

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Yeah, I kind of townread dragon for that fake hammer but I really shouldn't be.

Trust me wolf. You should.

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I think it's more aggressive than he's played as scum which is why I gave him a quick townread but he hasn't really done a whole lot else so I need to keep an eye on him and make sure I'm not townreading him too fast. I've made that mistake so many times in the past and it's burned me badly.

I'll be more useful in further days I'm sure. But I do what I see day one.

I've early hammered as both town and scum. Or at least as a SK. (wolf knows the SK game)

Sometimes it works sometimes it does. I have to say fake hammering a wagon that I'm already work usually does give some good info.

So me doing that really shouldn't be alignment indicative for me.

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Information? I thought it was obvious that I felt nothing was gained since shiro immediately pointed out that it wasn't a hammer and unvoted. I was rather vocal about it at the time. And I don't really think it was alignment indicative of shiro.

I tend to agree that the speed of your wagon doesn't really make your likelihood of being scum high even if pisskop would bus his partners to do that. So unless pisskop ends up getting killed and flips scum, you are probably safe as town, despite your poor play (imho).

The better reads come from those who rushed your wagon. Hence why I followed up with questions on the people who rushed you to L1. And why I'm voting for chevre who've found yummiest from the wagon.

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Honestly Chevre that is a super aggressive and flamboyant play style, hopping on every train in sight. Naturally that appears scum-motivated, but truthfully I don't think scum would put themselves that far out there..

What about the rest of his play besides wagon hopping? What do you think of his interaction with me?

Does anyone else have an opinion on that? It's been a major part of the game so far besides zakk's wagon but so far only Dave and pisskop have given an opinion on it when everyone gave an opinion on the wagon on zakk. Makes me wonder why.

@Blocky
is this pure guts?

@Chevre since your say Sw is scum then why do you end up saying in you last post that you are not pushing here?

Wouldn't a towN want to push their scum read? Same with zakk tbtbh, if you thought he was scum I don't really get why you jumped off instead of trying to make a case on him since he has so many votes

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I can't figure out why you are quoting wolf while addressing can you elaborate or clarify here, please?

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Nobody has complimented DSs avatar yet.

shame on you all.

Nice avatar, @dragonspawn. I too enjoy ATLA. Aang for the win.

I know it's not game related but I've been meaning to say thank you. As some know here, particularly wolf, at the site where I started playing mafia my sn is avatar. Not because of the last air bender, I was using it long before the show came out, but i like using sang because he is a good representation of what I was going for and more popular than my original reference with the sn.

I changed the snow here because I wanted to get experience playing without anyone at the original site realizing I was here or being able to read me. It's moot now.

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Honestly Chevre that is a super aggressive and flamboyant play style, hopping on every train in sight. Naturally that appears scum-motivated, but truthfully I don't think scum would put themselves that far out there..

What about the rest of his play besides wagon hopping? What do you think of his interaction with me?

Does anyone else have an opinion on that? It's been a major part of the game so far besides zakk's wagon but so far only Dave and pisskop have given an opinion on it when everyone gave an opinion on the wagon on zakk. Makes me wonder why.

@Blocky
is this pure guts?

@Chevre since your say Sw is scum then why do you end up saying in you last post that you are not pushing here?

Wouldn't a towN want to push their scum read? Same with zakk tbtbh, if you thought he was scum I don't really get why you jumped off instead of trying to make a case on him since he has so many votes

Yeah, it is guts. Sorry about not posting much

Is this in regards to zakk?

Do you have any more reads?

Was your random vote serious then? How do you get your gut reads? Do they usually come so quickly?

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Alright it happens. Makes sense.

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Well, has a mini ever had more than one vig in it before?

Is someone else claiming vigilante?

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My vote is still RVS because my reads suck this game. I'll take more time and more notes and maybe go over the thread soon.
UNVOTE: Quaroath

Perhaps it is time to start reading before everything begins to get overwhelming. Otherwise we may have to start voting you.

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To be honest I've barely noticed man this game. I'll have to read isos later to give you an opinion.

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Read the isos. Not seeing anything specifically scummy in his defense of chevre. If chevre is scum I highly doubt his buddy would defending him so openly if the entire town was on his back.

He might be someone to look at if chevre flips scum but I think if like to see more from him before I make a decision either way.

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I have mixed feelings. Chevre is definitely a scum read. But I'm also loathe to flip claimed prs.

But a vigilante might end up just picking off town people and helping the scum. That's assuming he isn't a serial killer. Ill have to think more.

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I haven't unvoted

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I'm not feeling zakk as much as chevre. He isn't a town read but I've just been feeling chevre is more scummy.

Unfortunately i don't have some profound analysis at this moment in time.

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I can't decide between Chevre, zakk, or one of the lurkers as scum right now in other words.

Wow

Lurking isn't scum. Town is going to lose this game if all you do is lynch lurkers. It's been part of a game day, untangle your priorities and develop reads on other people in the game too.




I don't want to lynch Chevre today.

Who should we lynch today?

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Really liking wolf, ok, and aero this game. Hopefully its not just because i like them.

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I missed the hammer.

Ok is pk. Autocorrect sucks

So chevre what were you?

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You want him to prod himself?

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So aero who is a stronger town read wolf or pisskop?

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Alight we can discuss is day 2.

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I'd rather read minds. I have an insatiable desire to know more than I should.

Besides I could set up my own group of mutants to fight against bigots who want to persecute us.

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I think mind reading is limited to the vicinity you are in or you'd go crazy.

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I'm not sure ill be signing up for more games for a while. Rl is busy. My 16 yo niece is moving in with us. Wasn't even going to sign up for this one but I'm glad I did

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I like some large games. Just don't like the ones people lurk

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Well no one died. Good sign

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Any theories why?

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I'd like to hear what others are thinking.

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While it does clear you of an alignment of him it doesn't mean you are innocent.

I'm speculating that either aero or pisskop are scum. I have my reasons and I will explain later, but what does everyone think?

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@wolf a reads list sounds good. I'm going to look at interactions today and put one together.

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Aero is scum

vote: aero

Why?

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You said either Aero or I were scum. Reading between the lines, I can conclude that Aero is scum. Im sure I could drag out weak reasons to suppliment that, but . . .

I said I think that to be true. Not sure what lines there are.

Ill tell you why. Someone tried to kill me last night. ozgin told me. I think it would have had to be someone familiar with me since my focus yesterday was mostly chevre. I haven't been playing as a threat to anyone alive.

But other than this suspicion I don't see what I would have been implying.

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Like I said it's a suspicion. I'm bulletproof. Not a watcher.

I don't suspect wolf because this is so her town game. She makes me feel like Rosie from fire & ice or official game 1. In other words I find her easy to read.

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Silly me I thiought you claimed watcher.

How did I claim watcher?

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I didn't know any such thing. Like I said I was suspicious that's all.

I'm not sure which one I really suspect. Like I said I was town reading you both earlier. Maybe ill wait to see more interaction before I make any conclusions

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Gambit? Maybe. Can there be a Town RB in the setup?

Also that was a damn good SK flip, hopefully it clears any alignment people saw with me and Chevre.

Anybody mentioning the possibility of a gambit is probably not scum because scum would probably realize that it's a terrible horrible no good very bad gambit to no-kill on night 1.

Unless they know it wasn't a gambit and want to through people off with the statement.

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Okay dragonspawn is more likely to be town due to the claim. Wooo

Not sure that's a good read either. Don't get me wrong it's a true, but what if I was lying scum?

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Did you think you were likely to be killed?

No. I didn't.

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Not sure why you're trying to get me to doubt a town lean though, specifically when it's on you.

I tend to think bad reasoning is bad even if it helps you.

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Yeah wolf is definitely town. No one who likes music can be bad.

And yes that was a joke.

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Sort of like no one who speaks German can be rvil

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I actually am liking zakk at the moment.

Wolf anyone you think needs a closer look?

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What do the colors mean?

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Nm I figured it out

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I don't like the fact that I keep forgetting Dave is in this game.

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I'm so gd confused right now.

@Zakk - aero vs pisskop, who and why.
@Mahonster - Where are you at going forward with Day 2. You didn't make much of your time in D1.

VOTE: grimm

Use
Less

Q: Same question you asked zakk

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I actually kind of like Grimm but I need to see more before I make a final decision either way.

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I see scum make posts like 518 all the time. not alignment indicative for me.

I've seen scum try to lynch a town bp for so called set up reasons. They tend to be a set up in my opinion.

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Quotas did you have any reads day 1?

Billi I don't see anyone's reads on shiro or grimm on your chart.

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Quaro stupid autocorrect

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Ill have to go look back and remember why

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Sorry I haven't been saying much. It looks like my niece may be coming this weekend so we've been preparing.

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We caught one even if it wasn't a team scum. That's better than most.

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Like to see more from Dave

VOTE: dave

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I am. Why do you think I'm voting for you.

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My issue or wolfs?

My issue is you keep talking about looking at substance and not just quantity of posts and you don't have any real substance that I've seen.

Not to mention it looks like you are freaking out about pressure votes. Makes me wonder why.

Btw town doesn't wait around for their to be something to respond to. Town actively hunts and inquires.

Who are your top three scum choices?

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Re-read grimm. Can't remember what I was liking about him. That tells me that it must not have been that strong.

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How is three votes rushing anything?

I will invite if it goes too fast. I'm not looking to speed a lynch.

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Does feel more like cheetory's scum game but its still early.

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Sooo seriously how likely is it for scum to go through all that effort billi has gone during this day ? Like does it happen to have scum do that to throw people off every now and again ?

We could use another opinion on Mahonster and Quaraoth if you want to focus.

what do you mean by that ?

I've seen tn do it often as scum. Egg was putting a lot of analysis together as sk in 181 but not to this point.

Thing is billi's post seem in depth but I'm not getting much out of them.

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VOTE: mah

To motivate a response.

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I'm thinking I don't see why naming suspects is going to make them change their ways.

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Qua,

I see you voted now. Did his response influence you at all? You ask for his top scum and he gave three. What do you think of his list?

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Welcome jazz.

Will be gone til Monday.

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Well you were pretty nonchalant/creative about finding ways to not contribute there.

Actually, that brings up a really good point, since we're all kind of reunited.

@Pisskop / @Silverwolf

Since we all won as scum together in that game, is Cheetory giving you a similar vibe? I can't decide as of now.

I was in that game too and yes cheery is reminding me of his play that game.

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Finished catching up. Starting to like cheetory a little better so I can wait and see.

To answer your question, yes I was town reading wolf in 180. She is gotten better and hiding her scum game.

But I'm feeling 100% confident that this is her town game.

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Btw autocorrect sucks.

I'm not sure I've ever said that before

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I never tried to mitigate or hedge my actions, and your attempt to attatch your own narraration onto my actions is noted.

Lol.
This is scumpisskop.
This is NY180 pisskop 100%.
Empty rhetoric.
Empty feeling.
Lots of words but no meaning.
Lots of worries but no drive.
Bam.
Feeling so fucking good about this.

How can you tell? He didn't survive until day 2 that game. And this is almost exactly the same way he was playing in 181 as town.

He might be scum. I'm not ready to lynch him on this today. I expect it will become obvious whether he is scum or town as the day goes on.

Do you have any other reasons he might be scum to consider?

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I think aero is right

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Definitely thinking either mah or qua is scum. Not 100% sure which one is which yet

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But I

think

I know what he's hinting at.

What did you think I was hinting at?

How about you just fucking tell us and stop being fucking useless?

K?

Are you scum?

Do you think I'm scum?

Answer the question please.

The answer is: no she isn't.

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Definitely thinking either mah or qua is scum. Not 100% sure which one is which yet

Why?

Just a feeling. I'm mostly sure it's only one of them though. I don't think they are scum together but it seems to me that both of them would be an easy target as scum if they were town and since they are targeting each other...

Btw I definitely don't think we should lynch pisskop today. It doesnt make sense due to what he has said and his over all meta at this point.

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I'd like to hear more from you dragon, I understand you are busy, but your opinion matters to me.

Ill do what I can.

Can I ask you a few questions?

Why is aero a town read?

What do you think of my reasoning that qua and math are probably not partners?

I'd like to hear more from Dave, shiro, and jazz. We probably have at least another scum among those three

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Yea pisskop is scum.

Why?

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My scum sensor is pinging on Shiro a little too. Something not quite right there.

What isn't right?

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Cheetory needs a copping

So do you.

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Im going to LOL my pants if the team is Cheet/DS

Well you don't have to worry about your pants. They are safe

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SW, your vote on me is trash. I rolestopped you last night.

So you stopped anyone from doing any actions on wolf or stopped her from doing any actions?

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Cheetory needs a copping

So do you.

Is that the extent of what you have to say about this?

Nope. Just reading up on things.

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Im glad House kept his 1-shot BP secret.

What does house have to do with this game?

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SW, your vote on me is trash. I rolestopped you last night.

So you stopped anyone from doing any actions on wolf or stopped her from doing any actions?

Rolestoppers prevent any other actions other than the rolestopper from affecting the target.

No cops, jails, kills, BGs, or anything else. Even self-targeting if the rolestop acts first.

Wolf he is scum

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VOTE: pisskop

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Rolestopped.

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Rolestopped.

But that means he protected me. Why would that make him scum?

Because I got a result on you. Which means he is lying about role stopping you

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Rolestopped.

But that means he protected me. Why would that make him scum?

Because I got a result on you. Which means he is lying about role stopping you

Now I know I got him.

vote: Dragonspawnm

Congratulations. You outed the bulletproof cop.

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I didn't. I copped wolf. And she came back town.which means she was not role stopped.

And I did so because I wanted to know I could rely on her and crumb my role to her as town because she knows where to look when I refer to feeling like Rosie during fire and ice when the rest of you would have no clue who Rosie is or that she was the cop that game.

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I was hoping to 1) find who I could trust 2) find scum and 3) build a town coalition

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Plain and simple scum already knows who town is so its easy to fake cop innos

And yet i crumb them at the beginning of the day right after I get the result?

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Rolestopped.

But that means he protected me. Why would that make him scum?

Because I got a result on you. Which means he is lying about role stopping you

So your earlier claim was fake (pedit

incomplete

), and the new claim proves that pisskop's claim is fake?
Or pisskop's claim is true (meaning the kill was probably on SW) and your new claim is a desperate gambit.

Sounds like a coin flip, if we lynch them both we'll get at least one scum. I'm undecided on which one first.

Why would I gambit on this? He didn't have anything on me. I'd have no reason to fully out myself other than to expose his lie. Why put myself on the limb if I was scum and my partners and I could simply kill him at night?

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Thats bad. Lynching me is extra bad for town.

How is it bad to lynch scum over the freaking cop?

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Cheetory needs a copping

unvote

Oh well I guess I outted myself for no reason. Lets lynch ozgin.

Seriously my votes going back to

VOTE: mah

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Pisskop made it obvious he was some sort of pr when I said either him or aero. Which is why I didn't want to lynch him today originally. I figured I could investigate him later and make a determination.

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Silver, are you, dragon and pisskop all scum and pulling the hugest shenaniganfest ever?

OMG, Would that be the best gambit ever?

Would be fun to be scum with you guys one of these days.

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I still don't know who is scum though. Not with any real certainty.

Nor do I. But that's the game.

I find it ironic that I wasn't pushing hard day 1 to avoid drawing attention to myself and getting shot. And I got shot anyway.

Btw why the heck were you all town reading me day 1? I never get town read day 1.

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Also dragon is jelly that we were all on a scumteam together in 180

Heck yeah. Scum is a fun role if its done with the right people.

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It's possible for pk to be scum but I think its unlikely. Seems to me the easiest way to find out is to see who is dead tomorrow.

Unless I waste a night investigating him. Not sure its the wisest use of my ability though.

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Not planning to.

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I highly doubt wolf is the godfather.

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wholly cow soo much reaching.

That was me calling you town ya dope.

It makes perfect sense if SW is a godfather. Then it would be a rolestop on a teammate, though a godfather would only need a rolestop if there were a tracker or watcher or JK in play and the godfather were performing the kill.

OMG-It would be such a sweet scum gambit.

I would be a Mafia Godfather, pisskop would be a mafia rolestopper, and dragonspawn could maybe just be a goon.

Dragon claims BP, claims an inno on me, then pisskop claims to have rolestopped me, after I soft a role that outs the SK on D1.

Sweet, gotta remember this one.

I'd be really sad if this turned out to be the case right after you literally told us the plan.

Like i'd cry

That would be the greatest game ever lol

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I tend to agree more information is Bette sooner.

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That is L1 if we are correct

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VT.

So everything I do this game pisses people off, but please don't lynch me yet.

I promise you'll understand soon why some of my actions appear the way that they do for you guys.

None of you know me. I'm new to this forum. Don't let that influence your vote please.

If anything we still have 5 days until deadline, and we can afford a mislynch, but it makes the game that much harder for town.

How soon can you deliver on this promise? I can't say I expect much. I'm extremely skeptical you can deliver. You're a vt. So its not like you are a pr trying to hide from the scum. I can't think of anything else that will explain jack.

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This game is going too fast.

Ok you so need to die:-p

Seriously I don't know billi at all prior to this game and I'm not scum reading him

[dragonspawn]

Zakk why is our lynch on mah going to fast? We've had long discussions. Giving him time to respond. Taken time out to listen. Looked at several different people.

Why are you so worried about us lynching mah? Or still worried about us lynching you? Doesn't make much sense to me. What is your relationship with mah?

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Not sure why you seem to think the scum is going to kill you zakk. Even if we didn't have three town firm players it seems like a bad nk to me.

I like the Mah v qua 1v1

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Get better soon ozgin

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Aren't jokes usually funny?

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Cheetory, what's your thinking on Mah v Qua?

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GRRRRRRR

Be careful, I bite.

So do I.

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I'm kind of with pk here. I want to see a lynch

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I'd prefer mah but I could back zakk. I don't see the scum ever killing him at this rate. He isn't helping us that much and we don't need him to be in doubt in a critical situation.

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VOTE: zakk

I think thats L1

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Yeah not planning to move my vote. I'm tired of the nonsense.

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Aero is town.

Good job wolf.

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VOTE: shiro

I think he needs some pressure.

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Could you provide a full reads list shiro?

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The Jazzmyn data points to Quaraoth, and I agree with the line of questioning from 1358
I'd also be interested in seeing what happens with a Shiro wagon. Surprisingly few reads on him from anyone.

Um. Okay. Where? Show me, bub. Maybe if you really stretch her vs Mah as incriminating me? I kinda can get that, but the flipside works the same - scum buss all the time. It could easily have been Jazz distancing from a buddy. This is total WIFOM territory.

She never even mentioned me (or half the game)

I'll do you one better...

I do not really understand the press on Dave; he looks town to me so far.

Regards,
Jazz

Pretty sure if anything Jazz points to you and Aero as scum. We know Aero isn't ... so.... VOTE: Dave


Also this:

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of the Mafia team is

identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists

cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
If you want a Traitor that gives an "innocent" result to Cops, make it an Investigation-Immune Traitor. Likewise, if you want one that cannot be killed by its team, make it a Bulletproof Traitor. These roles would return full names (e.g. Investigation-Immune Traitor to a Role Cop investigating them).

So I'm scum for unvoting Grimm, when if I was scum i couldn't know he was the traitor? Um.. That's stupid, and desperate to boot.

What.

What. No. If anything this post only confirms that Jazz knew who scum team was, so Jazz can be put up to every suspicion of relationship there is. And I don't even see how this last statement about Grimm even makes sense beyond that. Also, as far as Jazz bussing me, I think it's a lot more likely that scum would just "ignore" or not get involved with partners on D2 than later in the game, and since Jazz was a Traitor then she didn't want to piss off her unknowing scum buddies and get NKd. So fuck no it's you.

You didn't do anyone better.

Calling scum left Shiro and Quaroath

That doesn't make sense. Jazz would want to draw the night kill wouldn't she? Isn't that how the traitor is recruited?

I don't play many games with traitors. I know wolf would know more but she's kind of dead.

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VOTE: dave

Just to change it up.

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L1 already. I'll declare intent to hammer at some point. Lets get questioning done before I execute.

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We arent getting o lylo

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I'm thinking shiro is a good lynch today

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I've kind of stalled here at he moment. Not sure what to ask and people are being quiet

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Who are your top 3 scum billi?

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I've kind of stalled here at he moment. Not sure what to ask and people are being quiet

lol to give the scum chance to lurk.

Is that why you are quiet?

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What's the vote count at anyway?

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Any claims Dave?

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VOTE: dave

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Keep me alive till tomorrow. I'm not too worried about dying. But I want at least one more investigation

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We need quite real hammer before we can get anyone don't we?

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Yeah my power I gone. Sucks. I'll have to think this one but my gut says billi.

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Thinking it through though I can't imagine qua was the only scum on the last wagon.

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Is it time for full claims? Not that i expect much to be revealed.

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I mean, I fully expect to be lynched today.
I fucked up hard by not following through with Quar lynch and I would find myself scummy as fuck in anyone else's shoes looking at me dropping that scumread.
My role is probably only going to make me seem scummier xD.

This is throwing me off. I wasn't thinking anything about you not pushing qua enough. Did I miss where you made this blatant mistake? Or where anyone is pushing you because of it? So why defend it preemptively?

Or did I miss something.

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Please do aero.I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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I'm surprised they didn't try to role block me.

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Dragon you just receive general alignment like "town" or "scum" right? Not specific role?

Not a specific role. I was a cop. not a role cop.

I was told aero and wolf were town.

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We should have lynched shirt yesterday

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Shiro I mean.

Cause they I could have investigated.

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No idea

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So who do you think we should lynch cheet?

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My gut still thinks Aero makes a shit-ton of sense as scum.
I don't know if setup spec is enough to go against the cop-clear on him though and having a roleblocker/enabler/godfather seems like it'd be a lot :/

They had traitor though and I really hate how aero after he got cleared stopped giving a fuck

He stopped caring before.that. why do you think I checked him?

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No idea.

What frustrates me is I'm not sure who to vote for at this point.

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Ok.

VOTE: Shiro

Mah and Billi are town, Dragon is town. That just leaves Cheetory and Shiro, but the way the shiro wagon was completely redirected to dave yesterday means that shiro is probably scum.

The redirection came solely from cheetory unvoting the L1. So unless cheet and shirt are scum partners i don't see the argument.

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Shiro stupid autocorrect

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So you think it's billions cheet?

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Each of you is doing something that makes me think you are town. Stupid enabler.

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Wait, when did anyone claim neighbors? I've been keeping up on the thread so how did I miss that?

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I'm kind of leaning billi at the moment. I don't think aero is the godfather. Mah seems unlikely with the fight with qua.

Cheet and sbiro are feeling townie today. Billi is what I have left.

VOTE: billi

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I'm less inclined to lynch shiro today but I could compromise on a cheetory lynch

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Not sure why I should assume it is a mistake

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VOTE: shiro

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I don't have any inclination who it is either. None of my reads are exactly strong. But I'm leaning towards billi still at the moment.


We will see what happens tonight. A lynch might be a good option tomorrow.

And I'm not sure we can totally discount Mah. I doubt he is the scum but who knows.

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Ok why am I still alive?

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I'm leaning to cheetory. I was pushing billi yesterday. If billi was scum why wouldn't He lynch me?

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Night kill rather. Sorry I'm extremely tired at the moment

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Wait was your cop only a 1shot?

No. I had unlimited shots.but then we lynched Dave who was the secret cop enabler which totally destroyed my ability to cop.

Definitely leaning cheer right now.

Perhaps we should no lynch though.

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AoE galore.

You're not helping persuade me

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VOTE: cheetory

Oddly enough it's usually sc who ask me to do that.

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Scum. Stupid autocorrect

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No need to rush anything aero. Take your time.

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When can we expect the paraphrased hood info?

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Seriously there is no need to flip out like this just because i suspect you. If you weren't flipping out over it I wouldn't even be voting for you yet

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Chillax dude. It's a game. There is pretty much one of two options for who we should lynch. You're one of them. There is no need to take it personally.

VOTE: unvote

I dont see any reason to rush this vote

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Btw is there anyone who hasn't claimed? Seems a good time to claim if you haven't

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Billi are you considering anyone else to vote for? If so why?

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Btw aero is definitely not the godfather

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No I mean the is no way aero can be the godfather. He would have hammered and won the game earlier if he were.

Which means it's you or cheetory.

And while I may be leaning toward cheetory I haven't counted anything out.

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Yeah I was kind of seeing it as an appeal to emotion as well. I'm not sure what to think.

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I didn't. I just assumed he was playing the game till the end. Now I'm not sure.

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Bulletproof cop. I was told aero is town and he could have hammered earlier is he was godfather

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Any thoughts on the matter aero?

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something to chew on.

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Ill be gone Sunday. I'm really trying to figure out this one