*GAME OVER* Mini 1690 - Zed's Tavern! (Mafia Win!)

[Aeronaut]

So, who would you like to lynch then, today, cheetory?

[Aeronaut]

Neighbors don't equal masons.

[Aeronaut]

Also I'm a VT

[Aeronaut]

I feel like that's not logic anybody would lose

scum could just say "well, Dragonspawn was wrong, and so was I. Only Human."


I was actually sort of worried about Silver for a bit because of that, but everything came up millhouse and all was fine there.

[Aeronaut]

We have time, yea, so like do what you need to do, but I don't see a world where we don't lynch Shiro today.

[Aeronaut]

I mean I was on every mislynch and I was fine in that game

UNTIL SOMEBODY BUSSED ME

[Aeronaut]

Shiro who do you want to lynch

[Aeronaut]

It seems by the wiki page that the chance of scum in neighbors goes higher as the neighbors are more numerous. But, as you say, why neighbors instead of masons? Masons would probably be way too strong with all the other roles.
Would the GM decide beforehand that both neighbors are towns, or would that be "rolled" separately (i.e. left to chance)?

It depends

[Aeronaut]

...
And based on what been said I guess GF is improbable so you are out

Eeee... why is it improbable? Because Cheetory6 says so? What else has been said that makes it improbable?

Because statisticaly speaking in a game with 8 town 3 mafia and 1 sk

A randomly generated hood of two people has higher chance of being only town.

Billi is town as fuck

[Aeronaut]

dunno why that quote was in there

[Aeronaut]

I don't really know where to go from here.

I guess it's between Cheetory/Billi for me. Mah is a weird kill

[Aeronaut]

Thinking Billi, though. Because I feel as if mah would be inclined to have townread Cheetory since they're neighbors. So why would scum Cheetory kill his only ally?

[Aeronaut]

Is it allowed for you to quote things directly from the PT?

[Aeronaut]

Idk I've allowed it as a mod before.

@O, Yay or nay?

[Aeronaut]

Wait was your cop only a 1shot?

[Aeronaut]

Oh maybe a NL

Cheetory buddy don't be done we like you

[Aeronaut]

I'm sorry :/

If scum did win this game, I really blame myself for it. I was wrong about every lynch and then like didn't post for two days.

[Aeronaut]

Ugh idk

aero is drun\

so cheetoy could be totalyl ATEing the shizzle out of us right now but I don't even know because If i vote him and he;s town I don't wan't him to hate me

but if he's scum

then I'll hate him

either way we're enimies.

just kidding. I love you

[Aeronaut]

Jesus that was half autocorrect and half me being me

[Aeronaut]

I'm going to look at dis in the morning. Or late afternoon. Whichever is less bright

I'm certianly not voting right now.

[Aeronaut]

I thought so too, that there was no rush. But the game is not playable as the status is now.
This is a game. If somebody can't play, to replace out is the only correct option.
UNVOTE: Cheetory6

were you planning on voting yourself?


That kind of looks like appeasement a bit to me;

[Aeronaut]

Maybe time for an ISO dive?

[Aeronaut]

He's right, we have time.

[Aeronaut]

Cheetory

[Aeronaut]

Well, I honestly thought that all of that was cheetory trying to ATE, because cheetory is smart and he could be that convincing. I guess the replace suggests otherwise though

Ughhhhhh

[Aeronaut]

I think he's just having some real life stuff honestly. I wouldn't take most of that stuff personally.

[Aeronaut]

I'll come post here after work tonight.

Still pretty 50/50 tbh

[Aeronaut]

Ok, Billi, give me some condensed post about why Titus/Cheetory is scum. Or link your reasonings. Anything besides POE

[Aeronaut]

Sorry been really life-busy. Only have access through my phone right now but will try to come back in here tonight since I think DL is prob getting close

[Aeronaut]

Yea, I'm going through all my games tonight and catching up. Will be here tonight to look at what's been said.

[Aeronaut]

I don't mind giving you time but you've said that several times already. I'm curious what your thoughts are.

I know. I'm camping with family is the problem, so my only real time is late at night.

[Aeronaut]

Thanks for the claims. If it's nothing to you, I'm still going to do my VCA. Given an enabler though I highly doubt GF but I have to check my work.

Even though this probably doesn't matter much, Titus VCAs as town quite a bit. Idk as scum, though.

Here you go, Aero:

Cheetory replaces into a scum slot.

Blockyman couldn't handle being both scum and neighbor, having to hide himself both here in the game, and on a neighbor talk thread.
He replaces out saying he can't play 2 games at a time. Probably replaced out of the more difficult one.

Cheetory comes in strong creating a distance to his known partner, Quaroath. Both for us, and maybe especially for his neighbor partner, Mahonster, so that he wouldn't be grilled about his Quaroath stance when the neighboring partnership would come up. Cheetory then lets this slide so that Quaroath doesn't have too much pressure.

Cheetory regularly comments about how strong the mafia is, that there can't be a GF because then it would be way to strong (I see Titus is on the same page there), while I noticed that Shiro (who I also believe is experienced here) has the opposite view, that the mafia is rather weak. So, what I'm pointing at here, is the difference between two players, how they are evaluating the balance in the game, and one of them now dead townie and therefor truthful.

Cheetory kills Mahonster, his neighbor partner, and therefor he can control what is said about the neighbor thread, f.ex. that Maho was starting to suspect me more than him. I could not get the vibe from Maho that he was at any time more sure about one or the other of us two.
He also kills the player that he doesn't know as well as you, Aero, and dragon. He must believe that he can manipulate his friends (from older games) better than a new player that also has a secondary view of him through the neighbor thread.

Cheetory spends the last part of the game to try to finish the game with quick-lynches. I believe that he was sincere in his background reasons of personal interferences, and that would effect that he wanted to finish quickly. But he poured on the AtE and didn't give any chance for "play-offs" between the two of us. He even disregarded his formerly strongest scum read of Aero being GF way before Aero was formally cleared. He just wanted a quick-lynch of me and be done with it.

I don't see Cheetory making quicklynches at all? Like he was mostly lathargic the last two days.

OK, I know I deserve that. I totally got distracted.

BB is scum though. His vote pattern is indicative of scum staying out of the fray the entire game.

As for figuring out the game in lylo, ignore AtE. Sit down and look at which actions benefit scum and which benefit town. BB has largely stayed to the fringes and been unreadable until lylo.

See, but so is cheetory's pattern. He spent two days being all "I don't really trust my reads, I don't know who to vote, everyone is town" etc.

[Aeronaut]

Or in my opinion anyway

[Aeronaut]

I'm going to sleep on this. I think I'm going titus though, but it's really late and I'm going to look at it one more time in the morning then make my vote.

[Aeronaut]

Ok. But say I vote for billi. Then there's no majority. Do we just NL?

[Aeronaut]

Eh

Honestly. I'm going to vote Titus. I thought Billi was town the whole game and I've thought cheetory was scum the whole game. Since then I'm Not so sure, but Its been so far removed at this point that idk anymore.

Any objections?

[Aeronaut]

I object. Seriously, look at his ISO. Show me something that's scumhunting. If you were just going to lynch Cheetory without listening to a thing I say, why the fuck did you let anyone sub in if you were just going to gamethrow anyway?

I listened to what you and billi both said and honestly I wasn't compelled very much by either one of you. A lot of the reasoning seemed to be reaching to me. So I'm reverting back to my previous instincts.

I'll take one last look though. Because I've mislynched you in LYLO before and I was really sad about it, and don't want to do that again.

[Aeronaut]

VOTE: titus

Titus please don't hurt me

[Aeronaut]

Like, I'm totally fine with everything that happened in this game until lylo. I love you guys so don't take it personally but damn, it was like no one was posting anything at all and then deadline hit and well, let's lynch Titus :/

I'm so sorry.

I'll post more later but damn, nobody screwed up this game more than me.

[Aeronaut]

I'd rather that Aero would vote for Titus, as that's the way for town to win, not just for Titus.

This should have tipped me off tbh

[Aeronaut]

Titus I'm so sorry

[Aeronaut]

Also, how about those vig shots

Yea. You and silver carried this game for town. Great job guys, sorry!

[Aeronaut]

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WHEN DO WE WANT IT?!?!


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