Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

Dierfire · Post Post #1625 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:09 pm

I read through a bit already, but I'll keep going. I think that Red had an innocent result on KMD based on 1276. That would have been his first result, and presumably Bulbazoor was his second in 1322. Based on the thoughts that he was outlining and the wagon that he lead on Zoronos, it makes sense to me that KMD would have been his first investigation (for being on the same wagon as Banakai).
I wasn't liking what I saw from Keyser but I need to read more before I put a vote there. BBT and Doctor Who seemed fairly Town to me although admittedly most of my impression of Doctor Who turned on the fake Angel claim.

Dierfire · Post Post #1626 (isolation #1) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:17 pm

Wait, Keyser's not voting for my slot? That's worrisome.

Dierfire · Post Post #1627 (isolation #2) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:30 pm

Right, time for fast mode!
BBT should be Town because he picked up Red's guilty result on Bulbazoor.
Doctor Who is likely Town, the best evidence that I found was the fake claim.
Keyser didn't turn on Bulbazoor until BBT saw the claim. In fact, he was trying to deflect the suspicion (1433 was especially bad after 1408 admitted to not looking at the slot in a while). Keyser's been shadowing my (slot's) votes for the whole game, so this lynch was likely planned sooner or later. Probably he'd try to get Doctor Who lynched tomorrow.
If Boon is Mafia then the first day took place in a bus depot. His ISO itself is sparse, though, so more reading will follow these initial thoughts.

Dierfire · Post Post #1628 (isolation #3) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:51 pm

In post 1625, Dierfire wrote:I read through a bit already, but I'll keep going. I think that Red had an innocent result on KMD based on 1276. That would have been his first result, and presumably Bulbazoor was his second in 1322. Based on the thoughts that he was outlining and the wagon that he lead on Zoronos, it makes sense to me that KMD would have been his first investigation (for being on the same wagon as Banakai).
I wasn't liking what I saw from Keyser but I need to read more before I put a vote there. BBT and Doctor Who seemed fairly Town to me although admittedly most of my impression of Doctor Who turned on the fake Angel claim.

Oh, "Red" here is RedCoyote, not redFF (my slot).

Dierfire · Post Post #1629 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:03 pm

I read through Banakai's ISO and it more than anything Boon said makes me worry about Boon being Mafia. The seeming tunnel on Boon would be a good disguise to help clear Boon later. I'd think that Bulbazoor would be a better source of information than Banakai, though--he reads inexperienced to me and therefore more likely to drop clues for us. It's possibly confounded by Banakai's name on the list, but it's easy to see Bulbazoor worried here:

In post 471, Bulbazoor wrote:
In post 468, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Update: Have read through 12 pages. There is a lot going on and my head is starting to hurt. At this stage BBT and Banakai both look really bad; redFF looks really good. I don't like Keyser but a few things make me feel he
may
be town. Everybody else doesn't register too much either way.

I'm sure things will change in the next 8 pages, but I need a small break before heading back down into the salt mines.

Elaborate why. You do not have to but I would like it if you did.

@BBT

Did you get enough of an impression of Bulbazoor in real time to guess how he'd interact with the third member of his team? I would have guessed that he'd play for distance from both, which may fit Boon better than it does Keyser. In particular, 386 seems bold to me coming from Bulbazoor.

Dierfire · Post Post #1630 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:10 pm

If it turns out that the Mafia were using "dude" as a code word--or anything in Banakai's 696, then I am great at this game. I think that he was calling for one of his partners to vote for him. Bulbazoor picked it up, but it may have been aimed at Keyser.

In post 696, Banakai wrote:I think banakai is a lovely dude with a great personality. He is very attractive. I look up to him and hope to meet him someday.

Dierfire · Post Post #1631 (isolation #6) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:14 pm

All right, I'm done reading the dead Mafia players. In summary, I think that both Bulbazoor and Banakai point to Keyser a fair amount, although I'd still consider an outside chance that Boon would be Mafia.
I'm going to read Doctor Who now.

Dierfire · Post Post #1632 (isolation #7) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:17 pm

The confusion in 473 is interesting to me. Banakai (claims to have) thought that Boon replaced Woody. This would potentially change the direction of some of the clues in his ISO with regard to the case that he "invented" on Boon.

Dierfire · Post Post #1633 (isolation #8) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:29 pm

I've finished with Doctor Who's ISO. His reaction to BBT seemed fairly Town to me--to him, the vote on Woody would have seemed bad because Woody's alignment would have been obvious to him. The fake claim again seemed fairly Town, and he set it up nicely which makes me think that it was planned.
His theory that Banakai was reacting to his partners voting for him is either perceptive or informed. I still think that he should see the next day.

Dierfire · Post Post #1634 (isolation #9) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:31 pm

VOTE: Keyser Söze

Dierfire · Post Post #1637 (isolation #10) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:48 pm

Thanks, I think!

Dierfire · Post Post #1639 (isolation #11) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:55 pm

I'm privileged in that I already know that redFF was Town. To me, it seems that he plays a bit carelessly. The votes come off haphazardly and he doesn't really think through the mechanics involved in the roles (benefits of having the Angel claim, not considering the possibility that RedCoyote would be a Seer with a result). He also seems to bounce back and forth a bit. Consider this quote, too, though:

In post 1420, redFF wrote:
In post 1418, Bulbazoor wrote:I do not like redcpyote so far.

anything beyond OMGUS?

what is your take on the whole me/absta situation

That's immediately after the "chainsaw" on RedCoyote, so maybe he just has some difficulty maintaining a single line of thought at a time?

Dierfire · Post Post #1641 (isolation #12) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:28 pm

That seems unwise to me.
How does removing your vote from me help your strategy?

Dierfire · Post Post #1643 (isolation #13) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:53 pm

I really hope that Keyser is Mafia, then.

Dierfire · Post Post #1652 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:55 am

In post 1649, Keyser Söze wrote:From my perspective we should not be lynching one of Red Coyote's town reads. We should be lynching from his scum pool

Why? RedCoyote had only two investigations, and his other reads are no more informed than anyone else's. To me, this sounds like you're trying to coast on RedCoyote's authority.

Dierfire · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:50 pm

To my mind, that pretty much makes Boon the only option. BBT and Doctor Who both had easy routes to victory if they were Mafia (by killing the other and leaving Boon alive to vote for me).

@Boon

What do you say?

Dierfire · Post Post #1665 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:33 pm

That's counterproductive. Where else would I have posted?

Dierfire · Post Post #1671 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:17 am

VOTE: No Lynch

Dierfire · Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:07 am

This post confirms me as Town.
I thought for sure that I'd been brought to LYLO to be lynched, not to do the lynching.

Dierfire · Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:10 am

@Boon

Why did you think that BBT was Mafia and not me?

Dierfire · Post Post #1682 (isolation #20) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:47 am

I'm trusting my read on Banakai's 696. I think that he was calling for a bus.
The next votes were Bulb in 702 and Boon in 710.
Fingers crossed!

VOTE: Boon

Dierfire · Post Post #1689 (isolation #21) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:42 am

Grah, well played!
It really threw me off when I was the deciding vote in LYLO. I couldn't believe that my slot would go that long without a Mafia player voting for me.