Mini 1720 Number Mafia | Endgame snuggles

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:51 am

chill dude. It's not like I'm telling everyone "ignore frog, vote bella".

Was supposed to be a slight jab @ how often you've voted and unvoted this game.

I'll obviously listen to what u have to say.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:06 am

In post 1276, Fro99er wrote:You took a jab at Bella.

?

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:07 am

In post 1280, Fro99er wrote:MTD doesn't make sense based off balance

confused about this.

And you're confirmed town cause bella is either town and truthtelling her greencheck or she's scum which means u cant be.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:10 am

In post 1284, Fro99er wrote:There's no way we're in a setup where we have an IC, a 1-shot BP, a JOAT with 4 abilities, and a full roleblocker against just an encryptor and two goons. No. Way.

Agree. If u tell me the reason not to vote bella then I think DV or All Alone are the next logical choices.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:16 am

In post 1290, Fro99er wrote:I'm confirmed town BTW. Either bella is lying so she's last scum. Or she's telling the truth and copped me so I'm town via that.

Yeah I said that in 1283

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:19 am

In post 1288, Fro99er wrote:I have very specific plans that I will reveal at the right time. I'm 100% town and you need to trust me on this.

Fine, I will. But again, I thought my jab @ you was good natured so don't take it the wrong way please.

VOTE: DV

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:32 am

In post 1295, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1283, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1280, Fro99er wrote:MTD doesn't make sense based off balance
confused about this.

Go read post 1279. MTD cannot be scum if they are a mafia goon because it would be way too town sided. It's possible they are a mafia power role fake claiming VT, but that's a far fetched world I don't want us to explore right now.

Well if MTD is scum PR then she probably has no choice but to claim VT cause otherwise it kinda confirms every VT claim in the game since we'd know that scum is in the PR group.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:11 am

In post 1312, Fro99er wrote:this is dumb.

Bella is already confirmed not a mafia goon by the fact that she neighborized me (duh). Thus, there's ZERO chance bella is scum. Otherwise it's too scum sided of a setup. This would be the setup otherwise:

Scum

BBT – Mafia Encryptor
Wanderer – Mafia Goon
Bella – mafia 1-shot neighborizer at worst power, or mafia JOAT as claimed

Town

All Alone – Roleblocker
Lalaladucks – Innocent Child
DV – 1-shot BP
VTs – Espe, Frogger, JarJar, Mollie, Anti, DRK, MTD

Again - that's way too scum sided if Bella is scum, and this game was reviewed for balance by Ether and Quadz, who I have experience with reviewing/backup modding my mini normal. Bella is conftown in my mind.

Well I have very little experience w/ role setups on this site but that doesn't strike me as all that scum-sided.

I assume there's more frog? Something to do w/ Bella's final JOAT action and not purely based on side balance?

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:19 am

In post 1317, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1314, JarJarDrinks wrote:I assume there's more frog? Something to do w/ Bella's final JOAT action and not purely based on side balance?

Why do you keep rolefishing?

cause I'm sheeping you for what doesn't seem like all that great reasoning. You keep saying bella is or could be conftown and I just wanted to make sure that game balance wasn't the only reason.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:28 am

Lol. I'm not asking for the role to be revealed. Just some assurance that Bella can be confirmed by more than just side balance.

A thumbs up from Frog would suffice for me.

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:53 am

VOTE: MTD

happy about this. much more likely to be scum than DV IMO

JarJarDrinks · Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:01 pm

In post 1381, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1380, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: MTD

happy about this. much more likely to be scum than DV IMO

Funny because your order was DRK Bella DV yesterday

Cmon frog. I said "DRK > Bella >>>>> Then DV as a long shot"

I've been mostly townreading DV this game but I felt he was a little too reluctant to hang BBT. Plus MTD has like doubled his postcount since then and is looking pretty scummy.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:50 am

In post 1261, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1260, Bellaphant wrote:UNVOTE:

I've explained to frog my day 2 actions a bit. I copped frog because I needed someone to work with after day 1, I should have neighbourhooded him n2 maybe. I've got one skill left, should I claim it?

Why did u block me? And did the fact that there was a kill that night make you think I was more likely to be town?

Waiting for an answer to the 2nd question bella.

Also you you answered the first question but I asked a followup which I'm also waiting on:

In post 1267, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1266, Bellaphant wrote:I Explained why I blocked - I thought my crumb was really obvious and youd seen it and were Trying to rush through a lynch. It sounds dumb now, Maybe. I've discussed my last action in neighborhood

where was I trying to rush through a lynch?

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:24 am

Cause I think she's scum. I've never stopped thinking she was scum. I only unvoted cause u said to trust u cause she could conftown.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:25 am

Can it possibly hurt for her to answer those questions?

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:31 am

In post 1390, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1388, JarJarDrinks wrote:Cause I think she's scum. I've never stopped thinking she was scum. I only unvoted cause u said to trust u cause she could conftown.

Her vigging would conftown her.

And when I see that happen I'll surely have to reevaluate my read. I'm not trying to push a bella lynch today. But there's no reason I can't question her about what I think were bad actions.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:38 am

In post 1393, Fro99er wrote:like, there is no fucking way bella is scum. NONE

I kinda feel that way about almost everyone else on the game besides MTD. DVs posts today are making me totally feel dumb for doubting my townread on him. His posts scream town to me. If MTD ends up flipping green I'm just wondering who to look to next.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:45 am

In post 1398, Fro99er wrote:Neighborizer is so powerful as scum because a neighborizer has NEVER been lynched in a mini or large normal game. NEVER. That's far too powerful to give to scum. Go see for yourself: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

This is what Ether said to me about a neighborizer:
"I don't think the neighborizer is a good idea. Its role is confirmable and it might just be taken as town, and if so, the bloc it could potentially form with other power roles could get dangerous fast."

So Bella is not a neighborizer alone, that means she's a JOAT. And if she's a JOAT then that's far too powerful for scum (goon/JOAT/encryptor) to balance a 1 shot BP, a roleblocker, and an IC.

Bella is conftown. I'd be willing to bet the game on it.

Ok that is pretty convincing.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:50 am

In post 1404, Fro99er wrote:Based on play alone, I believe MTD is scum.

Yep, I'll be pretty surprised w/ any other result @ this point.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:51 am

Like why would scum EVER truthfully claim BP?

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:17 am

In post 1412, MTD wrote:I do think dv is town now.

What changed ur mind?

And do u agree that bella is conftown?

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:54 am

I'll "Pray" that someone hammers soon.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:55 am

MTD would hammer himself if he wasn't "too legit too quit"

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:57 am

And that about ends the list of MC Hammers accomplishments...

something something Addams Family..

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:05 am

@frog, just read my whole ISO.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:16 am

I guess reread espe. just hard for me to believe DV is scum.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:18 am

And if you decide to have bella vig me and it's the only death, u lynch her dammit.

JarJarDrinks · Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:31 am

In post 1452, Fro99er wrote:Maybe. I didn't want to out her vig shot because now scum can no kill and frame her

well doesnt that buy us a free lynch? so lynch her the next day.

JarJarDrinks · Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:48 am

@plot, thanks for running this and for all the nice words in the dead PT.

GG all, I had a lot of fun in this game.

JarJarDrinks · Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:06 am

In post 1470, Plotinus wrote:Mafia PT (will be released if consent is given from wanderer, mtd, and bbt)

u guys cool w/ us seeing the PT?

JarJarDrinks · Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:18 am

In post 772, JarJarDrinks wrote:I feel like she wants the town to know something. Like maybe BBT is her scumbuddy but he WASN'T the attacker.