Mini 1735: Radjarok 2 (Game Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm starting to wonder if it really is Pignash/Dier and that Dier just wants us to selfdestruct on each other and Pig just wants me to lynch Ricastle.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ricastle's play just leaves me with too many questions though.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I basically read Dierfire's last post as

"hey don't think about me too much and just hurry up and lynch among yourselves so I can scrape my ez win"

[RadiantCowbells]

Dier, if you're going to take your time we're going to take our time with you. No one's getting speedlynched until you've generated some content.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Dierfire

This is scum.

Probably with Pignash but could also be with Ric or PK, I'm not sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ugh this game is such a pain in the ass
UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

Ugh this game is such a pain in the ass
UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

K here's facts

I'm fucking obvious town if you don't see it you're cancerously retarded and I'm done playing with you.

Next time to even discuss the possibility of me being scum gets my vote for the rest of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I tried moral high ground I'm done with it.

Who is going to go first?

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact let's just do this.

VOTE: Pisskop

This is how it ends anyway right?

You won't stop being an idiot misreading me, I can't stand playing with you.

Let's just finish this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, but am I town or scum?

let's hear it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, if you're still scumreading me after all this why should I even bother unvoting you?

If you're going to end up lynching me it's no different than if I lynch you now.

At least my reads didn't suck.

[RadiantCowbells]

See, you won't do it.

You can act all smug like oh I lost this game by voting you but the reality is that with you being completely dead set on scumreading me we had no chance of winning.

Say again who can't read who?

[RadiantCowbells]

Say again, who can't read who?

[RadiantCowbells]

bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not unvoting here by the way, so scum can go ahead and quickhammer.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey, Pignash!

I see you're on. What do you think about me voting PK?

[RadiantCowbells]

Bleh, scum.

you're all scum.

VOTE: unvote

[RadiantCowbells]

You've been here for 25 minutes and you finally decide you're going to address me after I unvote?

Why this happen?

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah honestly, there's not one person I can point to and say that this guy is town.

I've wanted to PoE PK as town but his absolute refusal to give up on the possibility of having me as a mislynch gives me pause.

I also want to think that Pig is in fact scum but the game just doesn't support that conclusion, considering he's the only person who is townreading the one person that it is not at all unreasonable for all town to townread.

Dier too is trying to push towards me and on incredibly shitty pretenses; "my reads are weaker than usual" yeah no shit I don't have good reasons because no one is being fucking town at all, and as far as Ric/Pignash the back and forth between PK didn't at all strike me as a town on town discourse so that's out the window.

I'm leaning towards a Dier lynch still above all else for the roundabout way he went in extremely stally and then started to try to garner momentum on me.

Honestly, I think that's the one lynch I'd be happiest doing at this point, because if Dier is legitimately town and replaced in to try to push on me here he can fuck himself with a cactus.

Thoughts, pig?

[RadiantCowbells]

But if I were to lead on it would you be willing to follow me?

I'm not saying I am I'm just trying to be sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

That vote should wear some clothing, yo.

[RadiantCowbells]

Eh, I'm honestly at the point where there's no chance that I'd ask you to unvote because I'm resigned to losing this and will be happy with it being someone elses fault.

I'll wake up in the morning and see if someone quickhammered I guess.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: PK

JK YOU'RE GETTING QUICKHAMMERED YOU BITCH

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: unvote

wait what

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Pignash

QUICKHAMMER COMES BITCHES

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: unvote

[RadiantCowbells]

Why the fuck would I vote someone who has committed to following my vote?

[RadiantCowbells]

No, it means that I have no reason to lynch Pignash today when I"m positive there's two remaining scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I never said he's scum or not scum.

The question is literally not even approaching my radar because it's not one I have to answer today.

[RadiantCowbells]

To tell the truth, I still want a Dierfire lynch more than anything.

His entrance is absolutely entrancingly scummy to the point where I'm still mind boggled over it.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, it's not one I have to answer today because I can

1) if he's scum lynch the other scum or
2) if he's town lynch one of the actual scums.

Pignash isn't even my second biggest scumspect even if I was looking at him.

[RadiantCowbells]

At the very least, you must recognize that there's value in me keeping him alive as insurance against fail town play.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, PK and Dierfire both coming in flying out with all this HEY RC IS PROBABLY scum crap for various reasons.

Where does Scum!Pignash get off hard defending me in that situation, and why would I risk lynching him today regardless of his alignment when having him alive with me in LyLo guarantees that I will not be mislynched there?

There's no reason for me to even consider a Pignash lynch with this town being the way it is.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, I ask you not to vote him at this time. PK/Dierfire is not the most likely setup in my view but it's definitely a possibility.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright, let's play 2 1v1s and establish both scum pairs.

VOTE: Dierfire

[RadiantCowbells]

Dier/Ric is the most likely scum pair to me.

If Dier is town I don't give a shit about us losing.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I could just make the percentage play and lynch Ricastle then stand trial in a 1v1 but I'd rather pull this off with Pignash alive rather than dead.

Make no mistake, PK, if you're town there's no way they'd NK you when you're scumreading me.

So, shall we begin? Go ahead and cross vote here, I'm not playing games anymore.

[RadiantCowbells]

You being a fucking nimrod is a mistake if you're town.

That said, I don't think you are.

[RadiantCowbells]

I really, really want to leave this vote down.

[RadiantCowbells]

Was that sarcasm?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Unvote

I'd rather lynch you tho, maybe.

I'll have a better assessment of Dierfire fairly soon so I'll think about that later.

[RadiantCowbells]

Intent to vote Ric.

[RadiantCowbells]

Possibility but it all hinges on something I can't discuss right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

I leave nothing for tomorrow when I'm gone.

Unless the scumteam is Dier/Pignash, I'm not remotely salty about this loss.

VOTE: Ricastle

[RadiantCowbells]

I am somewhat townreading Pisskop but it's nowhere near a strong read.

I could see either Dierfire or Pignash as the other scum here.

If we lose, please don't hate me town. Playing this long of a game with PK has drained me of all my energy to continue playing.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Unvote

Like.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you look at the pther slots, ALL FUCKING 4 OF THEM have bizarre associatives with Blocky.

It's like, what the fuck am I supposed to do here.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like god fucking damnit this game makes me want to blow my brains out or something.

[RadiantCowbells]

There are 5 scumteam possibilities.

Ricastle / Pisskop
Ricastle / Dierfire
Ricastle / Pignash
Pignash / Pisskop
Pignash / Dierfire

[RadiantCowbells]

Ricastle, why do you believe that I'm town?
Pignash, why do you believe that I'm town?

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah fuck it YOLOOOOOOOO

VOTE: Dierfire

[RadiantCowbells]

Pignash, you know what this means.

Ricastle, Pisskop, care to join me?

[RadiantCowbells]

Riccy, I see you online.

I am not going to vote Pignash today, it's true, unless he refuses to vote Dierfire here.

I am uncertain of whether or not I want to lynch you, but I am entirely damn certain that I want to lynch Dierfire.

If I led you wrong, it's entirely my fault, the blame isn't at all yours. I will not be swayed.

Follow me?

[RadiantCowbells]

@Pignash, @Ricastle

in 24 hours from now if you haven't voted Dierfire I will be lynching you.

Make your choices.

[RadiantCowbells]

I've played with PK's scumgame. I don't think he's good enough to be scum here.

If I'm wrong about that then good on him but I don't see it as a real possibility.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm glad you're not voting me, but will you vote Dierfire?

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don't you trust me here, yo?

Remember in our last when I called the entire scumteam on day 3 and got NKed over the vig?

Why do you find it so difficult to put your faith in me?

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh hey, you're scumreading Pignash, right!?

The same Pignash who only mentions Dierfire once in the game to defend him, here?

Not as convinced as you that Dier is scum. But that may be clouded by Smudgers dislike of you and seemingly personal reason for replacing out.

I want to lynch Dierfire.

You know, the guy whose predecessor had a RVS vote on Pignash, then directs a question at him once and NEVER mentions him outside of it?

The guy whose current incarnation is pushing a RC/Ric scumteam without ever explaining why he thinks Pignash is town except "because I didn't look at him till late"?

Come on dude, you gotta be better than this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Should I mention Smudger's unvote?

Should I mention the Klingoncelt night kill?

Should I fucking mention that until the slot was replaced you considered it virtually confirmed scum?

What changed brah.

[RadiantCowbells]

Or here's a different question: do you believe that I'm town.

If so, do you see why Town!Me doesn't want to lynch in you and Pignash today?

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't miss it.

I'm worrying about 2 days, not just one.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't make me fucking try to sway PK because you know that ends with me voting him and ragequitting the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I can't.

But you see, today I have leverage over both you and Pignash. Neither of you can afford for me to vote you, both of you know that I'm town.

I don't see how I get Dierfire lynched in 3 way, even if you exclude the fact that I don't fucking live to 3 way and you and PK are both townreading him for fucking nonsense reasons.

He needs to be lynched today.

[RadiantCowbells]

I realize that my game long tunnel on you and reticency to vote Pignash may have disinclined you to trust me, but consider that tomorrow you get to play LyLo VS Pignash with me out of your hair.

Doesn't that sound awesome?

[RadiantCowbells]

You'd rather gamble with the odds of me not hammering you out of frustration when I'e been tunneling you the entire game and you already know the way I am?

[RadiantCowbells]

You have 24 hours, that's absolutely not a joke, and you

know

that I will have no hesitation to vote you.

You can go through my ISO, I've made similar ultimatums and I've always followed through. I will do the same this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

If it makes you feel better about it, don't think about it as two discrete lynches, think about it as calling the scum team once.

[RadiantCowbells]

And realistically, even if you lynch Pignash today, you still have to choose between RC/Pisskop/Dierfire tomorrow.

All we're doing is changing the order; whether or not we lose today or tomorrow doesn't matter if the wrong choice is going to be made in the choice between the latter 3.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have absolutely no qualms with you entirely blaming me for this game if I lose it.

I just need your vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

I die tonight, let's not play around with this.

Am I a candidate for your lynch? Then what do you gain from it?

[RadiantCowbells]

And if I AM a candidate for your lynch, we get into EXACTLY why I'm forced to make the play that I'm making now, and if I'm NOT, then there's no reason for you NOT to vote with me.

So you're catch-22ed. go vote Dierfire, thanks!

[RadiantCowbells]

So then there's a legitimate reason why town!me would feel the need to make this play.

Can you see it?

Does anything I've done today at all give you the impression that I'm fishing for a lynch?

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you think that Dierfire's (RC/Ric) theory makes any sense whatsoever given the state of the game?

Do you think it's possible that Town!Dierfire would come to that assessment?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ricastle.

If Pignash votes up Dierfire, I will not vote him under

any

circumstance.

We can stall the game of thrones until later but Dier is getting lynched today, or someone standing between me and lynching Dier is.

Don't be the dude between me and Dier.

[RadiantCowbells]

Going to bed, vote is being left down.

Goodbye, friends of Hagrid.

[RadiantCowbells]

Dier still trying to pin the lynch on me, huh.

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyone noticed Dier doesn't seem overly worried about the prospect of PK quickhammering him?

I mean it's just an interesting thing to talk about.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh riccy riccy riccy, it's time honey.

[RadiantCowbells]

I was right btw.

[RadiantCowbells]

Tonight, I promise

(maybe)

to do some work here. I actually had the hammer typed in with a yolo-type remark.

NO YOU FUCKING DO THAT HAMMER AND YOU FUCKING DO IT NOW.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ricastle expressed a townread on Dier.
You expressed a townread on Dier.
Pignash expressed a townread on Dier.

Scum!RC therefore thought his best move was... to push Dier.

Great plays, Scum!RC.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean fuck.

Ricastle agreed to lynch you.

You and Dier both basically agreed to lynch Ricastle.

I've been preventing a Pignash lynch for this entire game.

Why?

[RadiantCowbells]

And you say this as if you, as town, make 'great, rational' plays

I daresay that you are well aware that my scum play is far more rational and even handed than my town play.

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact, I here am going to unvote because I have some things that I want to say after hammer in preparation for tomorrow.

I will be very happy if he's at L-1 at some point today.

VOTE: unvote

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyway, Pignash, Ricastle, talk to me about the gamestate right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

You know what fuck you guys.

Ric, PK. You don't do fucking shit and have the gall to stall my wagons.

Go to hell both of you.

[RadiantCowbells]

So you have the time to antagonize me but you DON'T have the time to make a little bit of effort in this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm just asking, do you think that that has an ulterior motive besides antagonizing me?

What does you posting that accomplish for you?

[RadiantCowbells]

And we're doing absolutely fucking nothing with it.

You want to try to sort Ric/Piggy, scumhunt me, scumhunt Dierfire, absolutely. Go ahead. You want to USE your 6 days I have no fucking problem with you using your time.

I do have a problem with you stalling this game out doing absolutely fucking nothing until we get closer to deadline and we get forced to make a suboptimal attempt to lynch in Pig/Ric instead of our strong continuation whereby we'll have a clear and a 50/50 lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

You need to sort me? Fine, sort me. What do you want to know about anything I've done this game.

If you're not going to, shut up and lynch Dier and enjoy 3 way after I get killed.

[RadiantCowbells]

I, too, appreciate Doom graphics.

But that's not game related.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright, I'm so done.

24H if I can't hammer Dier I'm voting Ric.

I don't care if we win but I do care that this game fucking ends.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't know for sure that you're town, but you can know for sure that I'm not scum with Pignash based on the fact that we're not quickhammering you.

You NOT voting Dier will be taken as a scumclaim.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ric, I never fucking asked you if Pig was scum.

I do not relish facing off in a 1v1 against Dierfire when all 3 players besides me have claimed townreads on him, for shitty reasons I might add, but regardless of the reasons I do not think it's likely to go into my favour.

Thus, I am forcing his lynch to avoid said 1v1.

[RadiantCowbells]

And let's be real here, there's 3 scum.

End of story, bye bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is nothing to do with arguing with people.

If you're town, you have 2 choices.

1) convince PK to lynch Pignash without my vote.
3) vote Dierfire.
3) lose in 16 and a half hours.

Because you most likely can't convince PK to lynch Pignash in that short of a time period, you are at an impasse unless you trust me.

What's the difference to you whether we hammer between you and Pignash today or tomorrow? It's a 50/50 WHENEVER the 50/50 is made.

I, and by extension town, stand to benefit from forcing my 50/50 today instead of tomorrow. You do not.

[RadiantCowbells]

OK, let's try this.

Pignash, please switch your vote back over to Ricastle for a moment.

[RadiantCowbells]

Or hmm.

I'd have to get Dierfire to switch votes or stop a quickhammer, but I'm not willing to sit at the computer here.

Regardless, nah. You thinking that I'm scum with Pignash is the very fucking reason I'm doing this shit.

[RadiantCowbells]

Done for tomorrow? Yeah, town's done for tomorrow because you all have no fucking clue how to read shit.

I am not at all unwilling to hammer you here.

[RadiantCowbells]

I picked a 1v1 with the most widely townread person because I

knew

they were scum.

Just like I picked a 1v1 with BaldEagle because I

knew

they were scum.

Or when I knew that Radja and his annoying scumbuddy were scum.

You know absolutely nothing about how to play mafia. You talk big but your reads are decidedly mediocre and you have absolutely no vision for how to win a game.

I already confirmed PK as town. Because I knew he was town. I forced a 50/50 with Dierfire. Because I knew he was scum. I know who is scum between you and Pignash as well.

Carry on as you are and I will not feel bad at all about hammering you.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ric, don't you get it?

We do not lose 3 way with you, pignash, and myself. I can't speak for PK but I know for a fact who is scum between you and Pignash.

You VS Pignash is an obnoxiously irrelevant sideshow because it's already been solved. Town hasn't solved me VS Dierfire, in fact it seems to be leaning the wrong way so I'm throwing out all the stops to save town from itself here.

[RadiantCowbells]

Say what you want, I'm voting you in 16 hours if I can't hammer Dier.

[RadiantCowbells]

10:35 to go.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ric lynch timer.

(expired on 2015-11-29 12:00:00)

[RadiantCowbells]

Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:41 am

Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:41 am

Yes, that was definitely a quickhammer attempt.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fake as balls. I agree.

[RadiantCowbells]

Won't be able to make the time sharp but whenever I get back I'm voting Ricastle if I'm not able to hammer Dier.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Ricastle

Forgot.

[RadiantCowbells]

Pignash is not, as it happens, online at this time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Could you've?

[RadiantCowbells]

There's the man himself.

Pignash, talketh to meeth?

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, yall can go ahead and hammer this.

I'm not sitting around to unvote and I wouldn't if I had the opportunity.

Ricastle's had his chance, the way I see it.

[RadiantCowbells]

But Piggy, keep your vote on Dierfire until then so that we can perhaps persuade Ric to stop being a dork.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is quite unfortunate.

[RadiantCowbells]

Isn't a plan so much. What's going on?

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless you're too scared that I'm going to unvote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Clearly not.

So le ricastle is le confirmed scum here?

[RadiantCowbells]

Eh, it did.

Contrary to my assertions, I was not 100% positive of the scum between you and Pig.

Now I have both scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you realize that your last post is essentially a scum claim?

Oh, and to RC: You cannot seriously have believed that you come off as more town than me overall when getting into this 1v1. This is a battle you can't win.

Note that none of this says that I'm scum, he's just 'claiming' that he's

COME OFF

more towny overall.

Just look. Who out of us two looks more desperate here? The person who has been firmly situated on who they know is confirmed scum for the entire day, or the person who has claimed they don't care about winning the game, and despite that, has pushed to end it far more than anyone else?

Note that none of the above says that I'm scum, it just says that I

LOOK

more desperate.

Everything incriminates RC over me - the refusal to acknowledge Pignash as a threat. The slip. The blatantly overconfident push for Dier's lynch, and now the same for mine. His urging someone to quickhammer Cow D2 before my gambit could be outed. The constant AtE. If you manage to make the wrong decision here, Piss, then I won't say I'll never forgive you, but I'll be pretty annoyed.

Note that none of the above says that I'm scum, it just makes a lynch of things that 'incriminates' me.

If we're going to play that game, though:

What about the "IF RC FLIPS TOWN" shenanigans day 1 followed by the heel face turn.
What about Smudger's weird as fuck vote change when Ric called him out yesterday?
What about the fact that Dierfire called a Ric/RC scumteam and never voted either?
What about the kill on Klingon, who was unremarkable besides her Ric scumread?
What about the fact that Smudger slot suddenly became a blanket townread because of a replace out?

I mean, I've made a massive case on Ric over time that can be read through my ISO.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay. So you're admitting your points don't mean shit before making them? Or are you just being full of shit like usual?

As far as I can ascertain, this means absolutely nothing.

Your case on me was atrocious. Feel free to bring it up and be annihilated, although I doubt you will as you'd rather keep it an enigma you can bring up as ammunition rather than reveal it for what it really is.

Ignoring the question of what my case is, note that this still doesn't say that I'm scum nor that he's town, he's just saying that my case was bad. Scum can have bad cases made on them.

I do, however, think my case was pretty solid.

Every step of the way you have not cared remotely about being in the right. You've just cared about what makes you look like you're in the right. That is your damning error.

Not sure what this means or how it relates to my play. Maybe Ric can cook something up?

[RadiantCowbells]

Pignash, please vote Ricastle.

PK, your hammer. I brought this game down to 2v2 for you. Don't lose it here.

[RadiantCowbells]

Piss & Dier

Have you forgotten that I confirmed him as scum a long time ago?

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh my god Ricastle do you even read your posts?

Le scum NA.

PK, please read a crack in time found here.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62339

This is so obviously not town!Ricastle that I almost find it funny.

Your scumgame needs le work man.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're honestly better off trying to talk PK into deliberately gamethrowing to "teach me a lesson" than trying to appeal based on alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

Skip, skip, skip to the lou.

btw, if it was 2 mafia players remaining it would 100% confirm Ricastle for scum, if PK wasn't already aware of that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why does perspective matter?

There's no way there's a 1-shot GS on top of all the power that town already has in a 2v9 game.

That's not how Town!Ric would answer and PK should know it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Right, 2 mafia players total.

I'm glad you can point out mistypes and lord them over me.

Also, HOLY FUCK.

Not from his perspective it wouldn't. Don't lie

>you're scum confirmed!
WHAT NOT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE!!!!

[RadiantCowbells]

when are the fries done?

[RadiantCowbells]

Objectively, my scum game hasn't lost a game since my return to site.

Objectively, your scum game is fake as fuck and that last subject was incredibly cringeworthy.

[RadiantCowbells]

934 referred to 932 of course.

This is SO obviously not my scum game btw.

Only RC!Town is impressive enough to call one scum "basically confirmed scum" a few pages in and pm the mod saying that the other one is "definitely scum" during N1.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not disagreeing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Although to be fair the 1-shot gunsmith claim was actually ridiculously powerful and dissuaded me from focusing on you for a long time.

But you can't claim to have not received your report when I pmed the mod with my scum picks and he immediately responded.

Besides the fact that you're just generally scummy as all shit and you overplayed your reaction to my hammer.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why would I say that at all?

I guess because you knew that between myself and PK, someone was yolo hammering.

I would obviously already have a result planned before claiming. I'm not THAT bad, pal (also, thanks for reminding me that I can partially blame it on the mod if town does lose here).

AKA, qq to the mod that he lost you the game when he responded with a smiley face when I pmed him my scum picks.

If your scum game requires you to lie about mod activiity it needs work.

Let's not beat around the bush. You were using that hammer to fish for reactions you could use later from the start.

Yes, actually.

Doesn't that basically confirm me as town though?

[RadiantCowbells]

Reactions that I could use later?

I mean, I don't see how that can be possibly construed as anything besides scumhunting.

Feel free to elaborate.

There was absolutely no reason for me to fakeclaim without a planned result.

Oh, I'm sure you had a "planned result", but you were just looking for how to get a lynch pushed through without taking responsibility for it.

Your way sucked.

Also, all these lols and lmaos. You're a bag of nerves dude.

[RadiantCowbells]

To frame people, obviously. Like what's going on now.

So, why does this not apply to any sort of reaction test or scumhunting?

Of course that was my plan...that's why I made a longish post after the hammer to take full responsibility for the lynch! RC for the motivation constructor of 2015.

Dramatically taking responsibility for it does tend to decrease pressure you get for making a mistake, yeah. Also, that post was forced as hell.

Yeah, I am. I take this game very seriously when it comes to it.

Town doesn't get nervous in that way. It's pretty damning.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, hypothetically, wouldn't Scum!RC be more afraid of giving things away from MY reaction than trying to fish reactions from others?

You talk like you know that I'm not at all afraid of being scumread. I wonder why that's the case.

Why would I want Cow to get a word in? If he had, my plan could well have backfired. If I'd already resolved to mislynch him, that could only have made things worse for me. Scum in that situation would have pushed for a quickhammer, like a certain someone.

Uh, you didn't?
I'm sure you wanted a yolo hammer there.
I definitely agree that I aided and abetted scum aims, but given that Cow was scummy as shit I'm not of the opinion that he wouldn't have been lynched eventually.

After three previous games with me I thought you'd know me better than to have to grade me by standard town play. Shame really.

But I'm scum though, so I'm just full of shit. You're talking like I'm making a mistake instead of being scum pushing a mislynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

Because you are clearly immensely confident in your scumgame? That is more than evident to me right now.

Correct. I'm also immensely confident in my town game. I did, after all, figure out who the obvious clear was and hand them a 50/50.

Yes, I actually did. I made that clear multiple times before the hammer. You were the only one baiting a yolo hammer.

I mean, you certainly paid lip service to it.
I do not at all buy that his lynch was not intentional, and I don't think PK will either. But hey, I've been mislynched before.

I'm talking like you should be saying how that isn't MY town play. But you're full of shit either way, so sure.

No, your town game is tunneling me when I'm so obvtown and my reads are so good that I'm getting killed over the vig.
This is even worse than that.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay, so back to answering what I said? There is no scum motivation for me to say that. If town had listened to me, which was more likely than not without outside intervention, I might well have been screwed. There were no benefits to the whole thing.

You'd have been screwed for claiming a guilty on someone then retracting and saying it was a reaction test?

Huh, never heard of that before.

And I'll keep on tunnelling you in the future if this is how indiscernible your playstyles are. That's not anyone else's fault.

Ric, you would never suspect me when I was scum.

Also, I am nowhere near as bad a scum player that I can't get a lynch on a practically nonexistent player such as TheCow without a false guilty. That is another level entirely.

Ah, but the ballsy play of randomly claiming a role as scum bought you a ton of towncred and shifted my focus away from you.

It's something that I would have done, which is my highest compliment.

[RadiantCowbells]

You had it as a given that I was town since before the game even started.

Better to just blindly tunnel you and see if it works out than try to read you in future games, I say.

Even if I was scum this wouldn't be particularly threatening.

As it is it's just lol.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well done PK.

I was town, as you are no doubt aware.

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless PK was scum slowrolling champion NA, no.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well, fuck.

My reads are not MLG this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I've made up my mind.

Pig, where are you at?

[RadiantCowbells]

No hammer.

[RadiantCowbells]

I note that your entire shpiel about Ricastle being 1-shot GS in a 2 scum game making little sense was exactly what I was thinking at the time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, PK, why wouldn't you have no killed?

[RadiantCowbells]

I note that your entire shpiel about Ricastle being 1-shot GS in a 2 scum game making little sense was exactly what I was thinking at the time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, I so don't even want to hammer because of how weak I've been so far this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Logically, the choice is extremely obvious that I should be lynching Pignash.

The way my gut feels is totally different, and considering my gut was killing me when I was lynching Ricastle I'm not sure what I should be listening to.

PK, why did you vote Ric over Dier yesterday?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like you said, it could easily be an ego thing.

But I was leaning towards lynching Pignash anyway??? so

[RadiantCowbells]

So, exactly what I said.

I'm leaning towards lynching Pignash today.

Although my gut hates several of your posts, particularly the ScumBlocky come back one.

[RadiantCowbells]

drop the hammer rc.

i totally ran block, my only partner, into the ground in a 13p game.

#goodstrats

I've done that before, with both my partners.

[RadiantCowbells]

Annie?

[RadiantCowbells]

Unless someone convinces me that they're scum beyond a shadow of a doubt I'm not votinga ny time soon.

[RadiantCowbells]

No one in this game has merited a townread of such proportion that I would vote now.

Sorry.

[RadiantCowbells]

yo

I'm mid finals and I don't have the time to give this my final reread.

It's be awesome if you and pignash coudl talk it out to make this easier for me but I'm not hammering till after the 14th.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have 2 exams on monday.

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic but if you are you can fuck right off.

[RadiantCowbells]

If I were to use my brain I would be lynching Pignash, yes.

But in most situations where my brain and gut have clashed my gut has usually been the right one.

Since I'm torn between these things I want to reread it until I get them into alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

But yeah, the main thing keeping me from hammering Pignash is the scumblocky come back comment.

Hence me bringing it up.

[RadiantCowbells]

Just give me that soda.

[RadiantCowbells]

PK, if I was in fact scum and just slowrolling the fuck out of this what would you say in post game?

[RadiantCowbells]

No, but for reals, you're scum here.

You ready for the hammer?

Pignash, final thoughts?

[RadiantCowbells]

scum RC plz come back

[RadiantCowbells]

yes

[RadiantCowbells]

What do you want to talk about?

[RadiantCowbells]

Youre a dumbass and entirely ruined my tolerance for your gloating.

If youre done just do a thing. Because youre clearly incompetent.

JUST FUCKIN VOTE FOR SOMEBODY

I'm trying to reach out here. I realize Ive been a dick lately, in most my games.

Yeah I was thinking about it but honestly I can't stomach the thought of you winning as scum while I'm perfectly happy with you losing as town.

VOTE: PIsskop

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're town, try not pushing policy lynches on me next time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yup, I suck.

[RadiantCowbells]

This loss was on me.

That said, PK, please don't follow me into games if this is what it's going to be like.

[RadiantCowbells]

idk I just couldn't not lynch PK this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I guess this is the kind of game where scum didn't play particularly well but town absolutely didn't deserve to win.

I'll leave it at that.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, mostly I didn't deserve to win.

So it's sorta shitty that town got brought down with that but yeah.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC can you put that in your wiki page? or in your signature?!

just asking out of curiosity ...

that's happen when you instead of playing go for random lynches!

and yeah thx Radja! looking them was fun!

ok then...

[RadiantCowbells]

idk I guess I just didn't expect you to be the inevitable person kicking me while I was down.

[RadiantCowbells]

Thst's not really fair to them because I've absolutely said worse, including to PK himself, to my extreme regret now.

idk my life's been shit for weeks and i just can't deal atm and honestly this should be super small potatoes but I'm just out of ways to react

really appreciate it though klingon