VOTE: BlueTrin
PEdit: Sweet!
In post 71, BlueTrin wrote:
I understand he wants to get the real game to start.
It is just that his list is like ... Wtf ? Did you understand that people were just playing around ?
Then he wonders why people are getting serious after trying to get some order in the game ???
Not scum, just nonsense
In post 86, BlueTrin wrote:
In post 64, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Lowellidk about that, but GuyFawkes just got serious after my post. And why are you town reading him?
Pista, I am not liking Blue because he is mixing troll posts with serious ones and is throwing around votes to get them to stick. Post 51 after 49 is what has pinged me the most, so thats why my vote is on him.
Lovelygiant, well GuyFawkes just mentioned that he was having fun in RVS. What do you think about that? Doesn't seem like he was faking with troll posts as Blue seems to be doing.
First, of all he says that I am wasting other people time in RVS, which is fair enough, but as you can see nothing was going on so it was actually the best way to get people to start talking, this is why it wasn't useful. You can see as well that we stopped immediately as the game was becoming serious.
So now he says that I must be scum for throwing random votes during a part of the gamewhere he was inactive and neither helping or participating and where people were just trolling around? Then he accuses GuyFawkes of becoming serious whenhe implicitly asked himself the game to be more serious.
This does not make any sense.
So I wanted to know if it was a reaction test and kind of wanted to know if it mostly a reaction test, it does not seems so.
In post 91, Postie wrote:In post 76, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Postie, I want to understand if my read on BlueTrin and Lovelygiant is something that matches yours or not. Makes me read the players better that way.
Well, the tone of BlueTrin's posts makes me uneasy, but it might be that he just always talks that way so ehh (I'll go take a look at some of his past games later when I'm not phone posting). Not sure on lovelygiant either, but I think I have gut townlean.
Why did you want to know about these two specifically and why did you choose to ask me about them over any other player?
In post 102, lovelygiant wrote:I appreciate your activity, Gale, but a lot of it seems flippant. Are the answers you recieve from your questions actually helping you with your reads, or are you asking them to just look busy and helpful?
Guy hasn't shown anything I've needed to ask about. I'm not parking my vote. It'll change when he does.
I actually think I like Lowell. FA as well. Towny vibes thus far.
In post 115, Almost50 wrote:OK, here's an attempt to disrupt these still waters, but first:
To the VIG (if existent): This is NOT a claim, so do NOT out yourself.
Now; a HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION to all: If YOU were the Vigilante; who would you be shooting tonight? Name ONLY ONE player.
Thank you.
P.S. Even if you think the question is funny, scummy, irrelevant ..etc. PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Note: My TUMMY does NOT HURT, but THANKS for ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In post 120, pistachi0n wrote:In post 66, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Well it could be, have been eagerly waiting for a game for the past few days, and may be my last win got stuck with me.
Anyways, what do you think of GuyFawkes? His sudden change from being casual to being serious is actually making me second guess my read on him. I haven't seen a townie change their play so quickly when pointed out.
He went from casual to serious as RVS was ending. Completely normal.
VOTE: Gale
In post 64, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Lovelygiant, well GuyFawkes just mentioned that he was having fun in RVS. What do you think about that? Doesn't seem like he was faking with troll posts as Blue seems to be doing.
In post 66, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Anyways, what do you think of GuyFawkes? His sudden change from being casual to being serious is actually making me second guess my read on him. I haven't seen a townie change their play so quickly when pointed out.
In post 74, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In 79, you ruined my reaction test to GuyFawkes (proof 94 - 96). I was double checking my read on him, why would you obstruct that to prove your point?
In post 133, chilledtea wrote:I will catch up and see if we have truly left rvs by now. Sorry for not posting much.
In post 134, GuyFawkes wrote:I only label the people that over-reacted to what was clearly said in jest as scum.
GuyFawkes, I want an answer to this question.In post 155, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In post 134, GuyFawkes wrote:I only label the people that over-reacted to what was clearly said in jest as scum.
What is the possibility that Lovelygiant is not scum?
In post 173, BlueTrin wrote:In post 145, Gale Wing Srock wrote:MOD, can we have a prod on Frozen Angel please?
Sweet!
Almost50,
Could you weigh in on a few things that has happened though?
This game is suffering from a lack of activity, and Lowell calls me out on being active, why do you guys think that it is not scummy is beyond me. *sigh*
GWS, frankly it is good that you are active, but do you think you have been a bit tunelling ?
If you are sure that you will get something out the tunelling please continue, but could you see a case for this letting the scum hide if your reads are incorrect ? I think this is why some people are maybe reading you as scum, especially that you are not new.
By all means, continue to question me if you believe that I am scum, but if you death tunnel someone and the wagon is not coming you need to change your approach or it creates less discussion for the rest of the town ?
In post 183, n_n wrote:
Being correctly id'd as scum sure is annoying when you're trying harder than the town huh?
More seriously, I find you a little slimy for how self-aware/overly explanatory you are about certain things. e.g.
In post 174, Postie wrote:In post 147, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 110, Postie wrote:Actually, I think with how active GWS is, if GWS is scumthe scum vibes should start coming through on their own. From what I remember from the one game I played with GWS, he seemed pretty obvtown even if he was a touch superficial and try-hard. Like it's hard to explain but his thoughts always seemed very natural and unfiltered and flowed with the thread and I think he would have a hard time replicating that as scum.
UNVOTE:
so you weren't getting any scum vibes from her before this?
No, I thought GWS' behaviour was mostly NIA and still do, but I figured it was something I could pressure GWS about to get a better read on him.
In post 239, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 237, pistachi0n wrote:Ok, will do. FAm what stands out to you as different? I skimmed that game but it has over 400 pages.
It was about the lurker paranoia of Almost50. Nick just lurked till the end game and me and my mafia bretheron play took away the pressure from him , so he just lurked and lurked and lurked and lurked and won...
thats why Almost is telling that thing.
In post 238, GuyFawkes wrote:In post 187, Gale Wing Srock wrote:There are two ways to scum hunt Imo, playing by the book and gut reads. If there is any other method then I am all ears.
GuyFawkes, I want an answer to this question.In post 155, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In post 134, GuyFawkes wrote:I only label the people that over-reacted to what was clearly said in jest as scum.
What is the possibility that Lovelygiant is not scum?
There is def a possibility he is town, maybe a 40% chance
In post 131, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
- So the game starts with some jokes, and Lowell pushes LovelyG for a less than mediocre scum vibe (18).
- Then LovelyG votes for GuyFawkes for meh reasons (30).
- LovelyG votes Guy for scum (and vice versa), but doesn't question or even try to interact with him until I stir 'em up (94).
- Lowell then has a problem with my activity and says that he has others to look at (which we haven't seen him do yet) (98).
- LovelyG calls me flippant and "says" that he likes my activity, but it doesn't seem like it tbh (102).
- LovelyG then wants to kill an inactive player without asking for prod or to be replaced. Like thats a pretty clear scum tell there (117).
- Once Pista voted for me, Lowell saw a gap to drop in and is voting me because of activity??? Like this is crazy ass scummy! (122)
- Which only makes 123 look like a cover up post.
- And LovelyG chips in to support Lowell on this endeavor. Like he is convinced to leave his tunnel on Guy because he believes Lowell to be town? And wants to sheep him? Like what is going on here? That is a clear sign of a scum team (without day chat) at work (124).
In post 530, Lowell wrote:
So this is a bonus. If lovelyisscum, we canpretty much guaranteecreature is town, as is the purported hammerer (who I forget).
VOTE: lovely
Let's not be gunshy here. Be brave, someone hammer.
In post 531, Lowell wrote:The "hammerer" mentioned above being FA, I now see.
If lovely is scum, creature and FA are town.
In post 534, Lowell wrote:It does have to do with his flip, if you believe his being scum is a result of lovely's crying wolf on the supposed lynch. If it were a lynch on his scumbuddy, then he wouldn't talk about people playing against wincon. If it were a lynchbyhis scumbuddy, he wouldn't talk about people playing against wincon. Stop overthinking.
In post 536, pistachi0n wrote:I think the whole thing with FA was likely a scum gambit. It's out of character, she's been very composed in every game I've played with her.
Postie is a sheep.
The Creature wagon was terrible.
VOTE: Frozen Angel
In post 541, pistachi0n wrote:You're right, I wasn't paying enough attention. I see there are no cops and I feel stupid.I still don't think FA surviving will clear her.
In post 576, Almost50 wrote:
The claim itself is believable, yet not to be taken for granted. However, either she gets shot or she provides some info. Two days later we can reevaluate the situation based on night action & flips to get a better degree of certainty. As it stands I AM inclined to believe her bc I know her personality to a greater degree than most of you. Th○7t's all I'm saying.
In post 544, Almost50 wrote:@Postie: I'm not amused
1- Why would you town read someone for not reading/pretending they didn't read the setup?
2- Ask FA.. if I was scum myself I'd be roleblocking her and shooting someone else. After all, the Universal Backup thing would bring a Tracker back in the game, except scum won't know who they are
In post 586, Almost50 wrote:Well, I'm not expert and I have never even modded a game, so I'm in no position to answer your question with any degree of accuracy. Theoretically speaking though I don't see why not.
But what exactly are you saying?? Are soft claiming Mafia Tracker yourself??
In post 588, chilledtea wrote:Does no one realize that creature after the theatrics has become completely silent?
In post 588, chilledtea wrote:
Also I am OK with pista lynch too. I think they could be scum, but I thought creature lynch was better.
In post 588, chilledtea wrote:
I think lowell is town, and I actually lean town regarding lovelygiant.
In post 588, chilledtea wrote:
postie could be anything but I am leaning scum atm.
Actually that was what I thought of her before drama but then a lot of fluff happened and she seemed better, but I will give her the deficit of doubt and consider her scum.
In post 588, chilledtea wrote:
Others have hardly posted and AH seemed town initially in his pursuit of creature and fa. Some theatrics later he became absent - this could be because he felt upset or whatever.
In post 607, chilledtea wrote:
I consider creature as scum. How you look at creature would ultimately create a bias regarding your look at whether what lg did was opportunistic or not.
There was plenty of reason already to vote for creature in my eyes.
If there was no reason or little reason to be on creature wagon and say, a lurking lg comes out of nowhere and gives a weird reason to vote for creature or no reason for that matter - I would consider something like that as opportunistic.
In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?
yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.
I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.
In post 620, GuyFawkes wrote:In post 585, Gale Wing Srock wrote:You are making quiet a few assumptions there which may not be right.
Let me ask you this, do you think it is possible for Mirror roles to exist in the game?
"There may be zero or more of any other listed role."
In post 626, Lowell wrote:In post 602, BlueTrin wrote:In post 601, Frozen Angel wrote:isn't it obvious that I don't give a shit about my town win condition if I'm really the one who is getting lynched?
yeah its against my win condition. report me after the game. I dare you.
I don't care about whether you played against your win condition, I want to understand Lowell post.
The way I read it lovely started bitching as soon as the "lynch" was achieved, blaming ppl for playing against wincon. How could he do this unless he knew the lynchee was town? Seems obvious, what am I missing?
In post 679, Almost50 wrote:@GWS: I don't know.. this is one compelling case you've got there. I'm not quite sure though of whether we should go down the pistachi0n lynch road first or finish what we started with lovelygiant before that.
In post 683, lovelygiant wrote:
Gale, you lose your conviction in your latest post and start waffling. Who do you really want lynched here?
In post 677, Lowell wrote:This is an inventive case. In a good way... I think.
Though I'm not sure why you need to derail us to pistachio if you think lovely is probably scum too. Seems unnecessary at best, scummy at worst.
In post 714, Lowell wrote:Did someone claim or something? I haven't really been paying attention.
Also, lovely's weird arrival to "be suspicious" of the wagon that derailed his wagon deserves an oscar. Just insufferably smarmy. This guy is scum, and the GWS case on pista, while fine I guess, to the extent that I didn't even know this guy was in the game, bores me.
In post 677, Lowell wrote:This is an inventive case. In a good way... I think.
Though I'm not sure why you need to derail us to pistachio if you think lovely is probably scum too. Seemsunnecessary at best, scummy at worst.
In post 714, Lowell wrote:Did someone claim or something? I haven't really been paying attention.
Also, lovely's weird arrival to "be suspicious" of the wagon that derailed his wagon deserves an oscar. Just insufferably smarmy. This guy is scum, and the GWS case on pista, while fine I guess, to the extent that I didn't even know this guy was in the game,bores me.
In post 718, Lowell wrote:Nope. As scum I'm way better.
VOTE: pistachio
I'll do this, if that's what's happening. I still don't see this more than the lovely case, but whatever.
In post 744, Antihero wrote:pistach is a craps shoot.
In post 766, Antihero wrote:
the gale case isn't great b/c it just follows the usual format of "look at x that i'm linking to SCUMZORZ"
i really dont have that much optimism for a pistach lynch actually flipping scum
but hey maybe i just completely missed the scumminess and the dice land on 7. it's happened before.
(that's a good thing in craps, right?)
(.... i've never played craps before so i have no idea why i chose that reference....)