Mini 1777: Varied Music Mafia: Finale
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In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:
14) Players may or may not use factional and individual actions simultaneously.
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In post 62, Katsuki wrote:For the record, I'm essentially V/LA from Mon-Fri, and weekends if I have to work overtime... In camncamn I trust and I shall sheep you off a cliff.
p.s. You probably heard from 2010, if anything players who know me will say a lurky Katsuki is a town Katsuki.
^ Should be replaced; Let's PL Katsuki for lyrking
VOTE: Katsuki
In all seriousness though, pls don't lurk-
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In post 75, DeathRowKitty wrote:
Am I correct in thinking that the last line of this post is meant to mean that your vote wasn't serious? If so, why did you comment on that one thing and not anything else?In post 73, Ircher wrote:^ Should be replaced; Let's PL Katsuki for lyrking
VOTE: Katsuki
In all seriousness though, pls don't lurk
For the most part; Cuz I have no comments right now.-
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In post 78, DeathRowKitty wrote:There were 50 posts between that post and your previous, some of which contained real votes and one of which contained a miller claim. Do you not have opinions on any of it?
Not now, maybe later.
Alright, maybe a little -- The miller claim seemed strange, but nothing to do about it right now.-
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In post 148, camn wrote:On Cowbells? You should be more useful.
Kats-... Are you sure about this? I think Aristophanes is way more scummy. Meanwhile, killthestory is way more annoying, and Ircher is totally avoiding the game somehow...shouldn't we be killing them first?
No, I'm following, but nothing has really interested me yet.-
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In post 211, Killthestory wrote:He hasn't taken definitive stances on scum reads, but he takes very strong stances on town reads. Normal scum M.O. when it cones to mafia.
The dude is laying low and lurking in the background. He's not doing much, but he's still asking questions and putting very lax pressure on people. I'm more seeing passive scum then passive town in his scumhunting tactics, and how he's laying low.
Just overall his behaviour fits generic scum.
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In post 218, Killthestory wrote:In post 217, Thurhame wrote:Me in my first game on the site. I had one scumread all game (which turned out to be wrong), but my townreads won the game for Town through PoE.
This isn't the lads first game.
Anyway, it's easy to have town reads. The point is that the Lad has no scumreads, but he can read controversial players as town easily.
What I'm saying is that this is a scum mentality more than a town one even though town can exhibit this. However, I'm feeling a scum mentality from his line of thinking this game rather than a town one.
Not true; I merely wanted you to move on from an earlier fight and therefore labelled it as TvT. Tge fact I didn't provide more should be a clue.-
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In post 244, DeathRowKitty wrote:Ircher, can I have an idea of what your stream of consciousness looked like while making that TvT post?
"This argument bores me and there's a a good chance it's just two townies going at each other's throughts... Let's move on to a more interesting topic."
It was made less because I thought it was a TvT (most of them generally are though) and more I want to move on as it is seemingly accomplishing nothing.-
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In post 249, Almost50 wrote:I've just ISO'd Ircher, and there's nothing there to point me to his alignment either way. I know it looks empty and shallow, but so do most other ISOs including my own. No commitment = lazy play (maybe) but not necessarily scummy IMHO (maybe bc I have played with players who would go for an entire game looking like this, only to flip town, and often enough even a town PR).
In short: I'm neither for nor against an Ircher lynch. I have not confidence in him being scum, but his flip will provide us with some pointers none-the-less.
Someone pls unvote so I'm not lolhammered or quickhammered by scum.
This though is an accurate assessment of what I've done so far in this game. Apathy != Scummy.-
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In post 253, Katsuki wrote:In post 213, Thurhame wrote:Ircher isn't scummy. He is, however, extremely unhelpful to town. I can't get a read through the obfuscating wishywashiness. I would have no objections to an Ircher wagon.
VOTE: Ircher
This is the shit you're calling town, camncamn.
Though I am tempted...
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
UNVOTE, VOTE: IRCHER
Granted I do think Ircher has a higher chance of flipping town but we'll see. I expect Thurham and Kill on a plate tomorrow, camn.-
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In post 258, Killthestory wrote:you just got hammered btw
but the point is that your seriously backtracking now
I don't see any contradictions I made.
As Katsuki just lolhammered, I will be unable to give any reads as I've yet to form any and was going to try to today, but just got lolhammered by the idiot called Katsuki, so great job town; you just wasted a day of this game.
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Weird claim, not neccessarily scummy.
I would simply wait & guage whether or not AL is scum or not.-
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In post 67, DeathRowKitty wrote:"x is scummy."
"Why is x scummy?"
"I already said that x is scummy. I'm not repeating it."
Stop being intentionally dense and explain it, tia
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Obvious sign of apathy. Idc as in I dont care. I proceed to vote the mod-
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In post 97, Ircher wrote:Thor vs. KTS = TvT; let's move on.
2 posts after my Idc comment. Again, not AI in the slightest. At most, it suggests a very slight townread of KTS and DRK but my previous comment greatly diminishes any value the statement has-
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In post 108, camn wrote:Day 1 I will not support a Katsuki policy Lynch.
I loved the killthestory hate.
I want Aristophanes to respond. I think my feelings were real.
Also...voting the mod is scummy now.
I will readresswhen soberer.
How is voting the mod scummy?
It can be done for a variety of reasons and can have a variety of motives (in this case, apathy), but scummy / AI is not one of them-
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In post 138, Thurhame wrote:@camn: Sure, if you think revealing it is good for town.
I am aTown Neighbor, member of the. Camn is also in the same neighborhood.Amethyst Neighborhood
As camn pointed out in our private thread, the mod might have used RNG to distribute roles in the neighborhood, but if he didn't then there would be almost certainly at least 1 scum. I have minor town gutfeels (not strong enough to call a read) on the other two members of our neighborhood, so when my main scumread seemed stalled I decided to push camn and see what happened.
What happened is camn's response in our private thread gave me a semi-strong townread on her, so I'm going back to pushing Aristophanes.
P.S. If you still want to lynch me ok, but please don't discard 80% of the first day to do it. Day 1 is the foundation; providing pages and pages of feels and vote history to be analyzed and crossreferenced with flips on later days. More of such information can only help town, so even if you think I'm absolutely confirmed scum please wait until sometime next week to lynch me, unless conversation somehow completely dries up into nothingness before then.
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In post 138, Thurhame wrote:@camn: Sure, if you think revealing it is good for town.
I am aTown Neighbor, member of the. Camn is also in the same neighborhood.Amethyst Neighborhood
As camn pointed out in our private thread, the mod might have used RNG to distribute roles in the neighborhood, but if he didn't then there would be almost certainly at least 1 scum. I have minor town gutfeels (not strong enough to call a read) on the other two members of our neighborhood, so when my main scumread seemed stalled I decided to push camn and see what happened.
What happened is camn's response in our private thread gave me a semi-strong townread on her, so I'm going back to pushing Aristophanes.
P.S. If you still want to lynch me ok, but please don't discard 80% of the first day to do it. Day 1 is the foundation; providing pages and pages of feels and vote history to be analyzed and crossreferenced with flips on later days. More of such information can only help town, so even if you think I'm absolutely confirmed scum please wait until sometime next week to lynch me, unless conversation somehow completely dries up into nothingness before then.
In post 126, camn wrote:It's the kind that ends up with you dead, instead of just getting a dumb fakeclaim and everyone backs off.
Never, EVER do this again.-
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In post 164, Katsuki wrote:I was being entirely sarcastic about camn being a VI.
My case against him is his ISO and the fact that he drew a scum PM. I'm sorry that your buddy is going down so early.
That's not a case at all. Stop doing what KTS did earlier.-
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In post 164, Katsuki wrote:I was being entirely sarcastic about camn being a VI.
My case against him is his ISO and the fact that he drew a scum PM. I'm sorry that your buddy is going down so early.
In post 168, Killthestory wrote:Mfw do you want me to defend you or not?
Katsuki feels town the more I look at their posts, unfortunately. Really wish they could get lynched, so I wouldn't have to listen to their shit. Same for Camn. Both probably town. Katsuki's association with Ircher is notable, too.
Ircher rubs me the wrong way. He's probably scum. VOTE: Ircher
What's the Katsu associative?
I can understand why you are annoyed with me, and you were earky on the wagon.-
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In post 191, iraonavp wrote:Almost50, do you have any other scumreads that didn't completely 100%/100 confirm themselves as confirmed town through a neighbor claim?
Neighbors aren't conftown-
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In post 191, iraonavp wrote:Almost50, do you have any other scumreads that didn't completely 100%/100 confirm themselves as confirmed town through a neighbor claim?
In post 194, Katsuki wrote:Fate Mafia and Psychic Mafia should be required reading for all new players.
We town-swept Fate Mafia in 3hrs RL time total, including catching scum in pre-game pg1. Then Psychic Mafia, which actually won BEST TOWN, lasted 1.5days RL.
The fact Fate Mafia didn't win a scummy was a travesty, but quick-lynching when you have caught scum is pro-town.
And its antitown when its a quicklynch of an apathetic townie.-
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In post 209, Killthestory wrote:Have fun.
Anyway, have you guys reconsidered Ircher? It's pretty obvious he's scum, but I'm just waiting for you guys to figure it out.
I wouldn't quite go to that conckusion.-
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In post 209, Killthestory wrote:Have fun.
Anyway, have you guys reconsidered Ircher? It's pretty obvious he's scum, but I'm just waiting for you guys to figure it out.
In post 211, Killthestory wrote:He hasn't taken definitive stances on scum reads, but he takes very strong stances on town reads. Normal scum M.O. when it cones to mafia.
The dude is laying low and lurking in the background. He's not doing much, but he's still asking questions and putting very lax pressure on people. I'm more seeing passive scum then passive town in his scumhunting tactics, and how he's laying low.
Just overall his behaviour fits generic scum.
Ok, I understand where you're coming from, and making a simple statement like that does suggest a strong townread. Just, pls consider context next time.-
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In post 213, Thurhame wrote:Ircher isn't scummy. He is, however, extremely unhelpful to town. I can't get a read through the obfuscating wishywashiness. I would have no objections to an Ircher wagon.
VOTE: Ircher
But this is. I can forgive KTS, but this is completely unreasonable.
When we have at least 10 days left, you choose to want to lynch a person who you found isn't neccessarily scummy? Why not scumhunt or push those who you do think are scummy.
Unhelpful to town players are always preferable to scum aka, you lynch scum first.-
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In post 218, Killthestory wrote:In post 217, Thurhame wrote:Me in my first game on the site. I had one scumread all game (which turned out to be wrong), but my townreads won the game for Town through PoE.
This isn't the lads first game.
Anyway, it's easy to have town reads. The point is that the Lad has no scumreads, but he can read controversial players as town easily.
What I'm saying is that this is a scum mentality more than a town one even though town can exhibit this. However, I'm feeling a scum mentality from his line of thinking this game rather than a town one.
admit, I played in a way that was bound to lead me to trouble, but I realky didn't have any major thoughts here. I would like to point out though that I have a meta of frequently being thought as an easier mislynch-
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In post 221, Thurhame wrote:@Kill: I think I see what you're saying. Looking back at his iso, I do see a bit of a scummy feel in the way he backtracks in #73.
Explain how that's backtracking.-
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Revenge? Don't ask.-
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In post 231, Ircher wrote:Perhaps I'll go through this thread and post my thoughts now that there's enough content to do so.
Ridiculous, I get hammered despite saying I was actually going to try to go through the thread and post some thoughts.-
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In post 245, camn wrote:In post 231, Ircher wrote:Perhaps I'll go through this thread and post my thoughts now that there's enough content to do so.
"Oh shit they are on to how I have been hiding out all game I better flip the script"
DRKitty- I was kind of loving you already, but now it can be requited. Especially with your muscle on this wagon.
Kats-! We are wagoning here!
Thar's somewhat reasonable. I can understand that conclusion.-
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In post 252, Ircher wrote:In post 249, Almost50 wrote:I've just ISO'd Ircher, and there's nothing there to point me to his alignment either way. I know it looks empty and shallow, but so do most other ISOs including my own. No commitment = lazy play (maybe) but not necessarily scummy IMHO (maybe bc I have played with players who would go for an entire game looking like this, only to flip town, and often enough even a town PR).
In short: I'm neither for nor against an Ircher lynch. I have not confidence in him being scum, but his flip will provide us with some pointers none-the-less.
Someone pls unvote so I'm not lolhammered or quickhammered by scum.
This though is an accurate assessment of what I've done so far in this game. Apathy != Scummy.
In post 253, Katsuki wrote:In post 213, Thurhame wrote:Ircher isn't scummy. He is, however, extremely unhelpful to town. I can't get a read through the obfuscating wishywashiness. I would have no objections to an Ircher wagon.
VOTE: Ircher
This is the shit you're calling town, camncamn.
Though I am tempted...
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
UNVOTE, VOTE: IRCHER
Granted I do think Ircher has a higher chance of flipping town but we'll see. I expect Thurham and Kill on a plate tomorrow, camn.
So, you lolhammer me DESPITE think I have a higher chance of flipping town?! This is attrocious and scummy as can be. Even worse than Thurs earlier comment.-
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In post 258, Killthestory wrote:you just got hammered btw
but the point is that your seriously backtracking now
I don't see the backtracking. More of clarification, but not backtracking.-
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In post 263, Killthestory wrote:Yeah rip I have no fucking idea what that hammer was for.
If Ircher doesn't flip scum I'm replacing out. I was definitely the most notable on that wagon, but the hammer was unnecessary as fuck.
I think I actually do have a real townread of you this time.
- Voted me because I was basically actively lurking
- Presented clear reasons why you thought I was scum
- Primary advocate of wagon, but also notes that the hammer was poor. This is someone looking at the whole picture.
- Presented reasons are reasonable and fair even if the resulting conclusions are wrong.-
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In post 293, Katsuki wrote:In post 290, Ircher wrote:
So, you lolhammer me DESPITE think I have a higher chance of flipping town?! This is attrocious and scummy as can be. Even worse than Thurs earlier comment.
You were on my purge list. Though the greater value in flipping your slot is to support my case of Thur and KTS being scum, but in the event that you flip scum, I'd be very happy.
In essence, flipping your slot is a net positive for town regardless of what alignment you flip. ^^
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Please PL this idiot tommorrow. And pls forgive KTS as his reactions right now seem genuine. Don't give a single thought to what Katsu is saying; he's just scum trying to get a mislynch on a townie who was wrong.
Its fine to be wrong, provided you are willing to admit you were wrong later. Yet, Katsu reads it as scum backtracking?! Nope, don't see it.-
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In post 294, Killthestory wrote:In post 289, Katsuki wrote:In post 263, Killthestory wrote:Yeah rip I have no fucking idea what that hammer was for.
If Ircher doesn't flip scum I'm replacing out. I was definitely the most notable on that wagon, but the hammer was unnecessary as fuck.
Look at this posturing.
Also goes to show that he voted for a player he didn't even think was scum.
So like I said, Thur + KTS scum.
Oh fuck off you quickhammering idiot.
In post 291, Katsuki wrote:In post 278, Killthestory wrote:I must have read Ircher completely wrong. Fuck.
Yo my dude Ircher. My bad lol. That wagon formed way too quickly. I should have unvoted before I neighbourhood VI quickhammered you. Sorry for pushing you so hard.
When Ircher flips town and I replace out, lynch Kat. I honestly don't give a shit what alignment they are. This really pissed me off. The only way I could see them as playing seriously is if they're scum.
Posts like these are utterly ridiculous. Why were you voting Ircher in the first place then? Your #168 completely read to me as a counterwagon to your buddy Thur.
BECAUSE HE WASN'T DOING SHIT. SCUM IS EASILY ALWAYS LURKING. HOWEVER, IF HE HAD MADE ALL THESE POSTS BEFORE YOU QUICKHAMMERED HIM I'D HAVE READ HIM AS TOWN.
Exactly why I see KTS as town. He wasn't scum trying to mislynch town. He was town who thought I was lurking to avoid pressure.-
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In post 301, Katsuki wrote:In post 296, DeathRowKitty wrote:I still don't think kts is scum
Why? kts is posturing hard right now and creating a scene over the fact that A PLAYER AND WAGON HE WAS VOTING ON HAS REACHED A LYNCH.
What part of that reads not scum to you? I must be going insane because this is some serious MOONLOGIC meta going on on MS.net.
All of it.-
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In post 321, Thurhame wrote:NO NO NO NO NO. I go off to an interview, and come back to find some idiot quickhammered? NO. Just NO. ESPECIALLY on Day 1.
KATSUKI WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU THINKING
This looks a little bit faked, but I won't say its evident enough to justify a scum case.-
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In post 836, Zulfy wrote:Voting the mod was certainly an interesting strategy
Didnt I explain that?
Maybe I didnt --> 1) Its fun 2) Apathetic to the game-
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