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In post 61, knightmare wrote:In post 57, Lowell wrote:Oh hey knight is scum. Good find, whoever started this. Early wagons rule. BLOOD!
VOTE: knight
Stats say at least one of the people on my wagon by now is scum.
Is it you?
VOTE: Lowell
More seriously - did you actually read anything or are you just parroting off of someone you can't even readily recall after 2 pages of reading?
Eh, basically the second thing.
No but really, this guy is scum. I'm a gut player, and my gut is always* right about these things. The entirety of his ISO is him getting madder and madder while trying to look calm and collected. Even the latest few "let me put together a ponderous, methodical case on some rube to look like I'm helping" reeks of scum.
Again, not sure how, or why, this wagon started. But don't care. Go with me on this, sheeple. He doesn't like being caught for something so stupid, but hey it's fun for the rest of us.
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Well I would argue that knight is impossible to lynch, because as soon as the votes got serious many folks, including you, mysteriously got cold feet.
So you see we have a bit of a catch-22 here. Which hurts my brain. Let's do less thinking and more playing with our hearts... and guts.... kill knight.-
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Hey I found one.
VOTE: mhsmith
In ISO, this guy reads a little too "unfrozen caveman lawyer" for my liking. A lot of "I was under the impression..." and "Am I off-base about..."s, like he's asking permission to play the way he wants. Also he's weirdly sensitive about pushing people to L-2. Which, on D1 especially, is a dumb thing to be sensitive about.
Also, boon is town. Am I persuaded of this just because of his obnoxious multi-posts? Yes, yes I am.-
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He's new, but not so new that saying "gosh guys, I wonder if scum could do this? do you think so? RHETORICAL QUESITONS GUYS!" makes any sense. And wagons on newbs are fun, anyway.
@knight, no, you're still scum, don't worry. but people have been persuaded by the brute force of the boringness of your arguments, so I'm moving to an easier, hopefully more hilarious, target.-
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In post 285, mhsmith0 wrote:In post 283, Lowell wrote:...And wagons on newbs are fun, anyway.
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so I'm moving to an easier, hopefully more hilarious, target.
Serious vote or joke/reaction test? I'm assuming the latter for now. I dislike playing games with votes but whatever.
This guy needs some votes. Even when I specifically vote him on page whatever this is, he's all "oh, me? are you being serious? Is this just a joke? oh gosh, I don't know."
In post 287, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 278, Lowell wrote:Stop asking questions: vote mhsmith. I promise it'll get hilarious as we get close to lynch. I can tell he's the type.
What the heck? Stop asking questions and just vote? deadline is in a little less than 2 weeks, why would we rush a lynch when there's still lots of discussion to be had, for instance, the lack of your explanation for anything?
There's always someone who gets needlessly peeved about this. For every "oops quick lynch" I've seen about a dozen "no let's wait no let's wait no let's wait OOPS OUT OF TIME KILL SOMEONE RANDOM QUICK." So how about you address the point I made instead of polishing your mock incredulation act.
In post 291, Expedience wrote:What do you think of Sakura, Lowell? You're not weirded out at all by her backing off of knightmare?
Yes, I'm VERY worried about it. There's nothing I like less than when a wagon forms, gets close, and then people just start to weasel themselves out of it without any good reason other than "it's too early" or "I want to keep looking" or whatever. Again, this game shouldn't just be pissing around waiting until deadline and then panic-lynching. sakura is probably scum.
In post 297, Expedience wrote:In post 210, chilledtea wrote:Oh man.
Boon is scum, lowell is prob scum and madonna is prob scum too. Although madonna is a slight read.
Can we just decide on one of these. I would go for boon though.
Sounds pseudo-Lowell.
Yeah this guy wishes. Though in possibly related news, this guy gives me townvibes.
Anyway, smith, sakura, and knight. Game over, let's all go home.-
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In post 321, mhsmith0 wrote:@lowell: Here's one from me. Was your vote on me serious or just joke/reaction testing? That's an easy question with an easy answer.
Are you kidding? It's page 14. My vote is legit. Your playstyle is a put-on and you're scum.-
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In post 350, mhsmith0 wrote:Actually...
UNVOTE: Almost50
I'd by lying if I said I town read you right now (I still lean scum on you), but I'm liking your response (and the reasons you gave for town reading Sakura's behavior I think make sense, although I still wish you'd just said why earlier), and the stench of scummy bullshit from Lowell and Chilledtea is just too strong. My vote belongs on one of them, now I just need to decide which one.
All this guy can do is OMGUS. Look, we all want to believe newb is town and can be taught, but it's clear his motivation is self-preservation rather than scumhunting. That he does the former while pretending to do the latter is not a bonus.-
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In post 623, chilledtea wrote:In post 386, chilledtea wrote:Spoiler:
According to this post, Lowel's scumreads are sakura, knight, smith.
Texcat hasn't said anything from 314 till recently after Lowel's vote. (Please correct me if I am wrong)
Lowell what made you change your mind regarding your scum reads? What made texcat suddenly scummy?
Lowell I want an answer to this.
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The way chilled almost instantly backed down from my wagon when challenged rings alarm bells. Do you know something about my role that makes you think you don't want to be on this wagon?
Also, this game is a lot of people showing up and "demanding" answers to questions. So serious. It makes me LOL.
Also I'm pretty sure texcat is the one we're looking for here. Go with me on this, sheeple.-
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In post 684, Garmr wrote:Lowell are you trying to draw out a claim?
Honestly? Yes, I guess? Now that I'm thinking about it maybe it's not a good idea.
And my theory, btw, is that tex makes sense as a person to roleblock. He was cagey on D1, but not TOO obvious a target that scum would avoid having him make the kill. That, plus his being suspiciously MIA today make me think someone blocked him.
If no one wants to claim this, that's fine, but if said person ends up dead this will be pointlessly lost information. But yeah, if it were me, I'd be jumping up and down taking credit for blocking a NK. It'd be worth a 1 for 1 trade, esp given the blocked nightkill. But whatever.-
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In post 695, Garmr wrote:In post 694, Lowell wrote:In post 684, Garmr wrote:Lowell are you trying to draw out a claim?
Honestly? Yes, I guess? Now that I'm thinking about it maybe it's not a good idea.
And my theory, btw, is that tex makes sense as a person to roleblock. He was cagey on D1, but not TOO obvious a target that scum would avoid having him make the kill. That, plus his being suspiciously MIA today make me think someone blocked him.
If no one wants to claim this, that's fine, but if said person ends up dead this will be pointlessly lost information. But yeah, if it were me, I'd be jumping up and down taking credit for blocking a NK. It'd be worth a 1 for 1 trade, esp given the blocked nightkill. But whatever.
Why do you think it's a roleblock and not a doctor? Going to be honest here I have only honestly seen people call out roles in such a obvious way as town before (including myself) So you kinda have that going for you now.
That's true, could be doctor, didn't think about that. In which case this is all pointless.-
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In post 698, Sakura Hana wrote:The ammount of possible night killing PRs doesnt even ammount only to roleblcoks and doctors, there's also bulletproof.
Why were you even assuming roleblock is the only possibility?
I don't know, I just assumed normalish roles, and figured RB was the most common. Besides doctor, which I forgot about.-
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chilled, you want to come at me, then come at me, bro! Why be so passive? place a vote!
One thing I'll note: in many, even MOST, countries (other than the U.S.), Easter is a four-day weekend--or longer. Such is my situation. I'm just today back at work, and I'll try to catch up today if I can.
I do want to mention my vote on tex, though. Basically what I thought I saw (but now am not sure I see) was a soft claim from sayaka (and if I was right all along, SORRY SAYAKA!). Basically there was no kill, then sayaka started spamming the thread, shooting accusations all over, then voting (more or less out of the blue) for tex. My interpretation was: role-blocker who blocked tex, trying not to admit to such.-
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In post 958, chilledtea wrote:In post 955, Lowell wrote:chilled, you want to come at me, then come at me, bro! Why be so passive? place a vote!
One thing I'll note: in many, even MOST, countries (other than the U.S.), Easter is a four-day weekend--or longer. Such is my situation. I'm just today back at work, and I'll try to catch up today if I can.
I do want to mention my vote on tex, though. Basically what I thought I saw (but now am not sure I see) was a soft claim from sayaka (and if I was right all along, SORRY SAYAKA!). Basically there was no kill, then sayaka started spamming the thread, shooting accusations all over, then voting (more or less out of the blue) for tex. My interpretation was: role-blocker who blocked tex, trying not to admit to such.
On day 1, you voted texcat saying texcat was a better lynch candidate than you. Do you remember why that was the case?
This is important because you answered this question by saying that you have a theory - but your theory is in regard with day 2.
What made you suspicious of texcat on day 1?
I mean, everyone is a better lynch than me. My D2 theory is entirely what I mentioned above, and has nothing to do with D1, except to the extent that texcat's existence on that scummy borderzone would have made him a likely RB target.-
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In post 986, Sakura Hana wrote:That is L-1, inb4 Expedience goes "OMG LOWELL IS SCUM FOR PUTTING BOONS AT L-1"
Love this. And yes, I was expecting someone to do it. No guts no glory!-
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: garmr
It is true that I'm shamelessly sheeping here. But I want a lynch and am bored, and I never miss a chance too look scummy for some reason. Come to think of it I remember playing a game with garmr recently in which he was pretty helpful and good... in this game I've forgotten he's here entirely. So that's a bad sign.-
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First, let me say I don't see the Exp case. I had a decent townread on him D1. I could be missing something here, but I'm not seeing what has changed. Yet, at least.
VOTE: smith
He's the answer, friends. A lot of problems here, mostly having to do with his voting. He tunnelled me for awhile on day 1, several times threatening IN LARGE FONT to hammer me. Never happened.
He later moved on to Boon. Though his "case" against him (too lazy to search for the vote post) reads as a passionless meta. More like coaching--"here's how you act more town, guy"-- than someone who actually wanted to see the lynch. Sure enough, he soon unvoted as the pressure got hot, more or less without explanation.
Then he tried sakura, when that wagon was seen as the counter to boon. then that fizzled, so he jumped ship. Somehow he ended the day without a vote on ANYONE, which raises huge red flags.
tl;drSmith is blatantly avoiding being out in front of anything. Didn't want to bus his partner but didn't want to be seen driving a counter-wagon. Wanted to threaten to lynch me (repeatedly) but didn't want to actually be the hammer (because he know how I'll flip). Everything about this guy reeks of calculation.-
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Here's the sequence I mention above. Passive case, is "put off" by the wagon (that he is on!) might actually bear fruit, then unvote without explanation. Pretty sincere, guy.
In post 959, mhsmith0 wrote:I'm looking at prior Boon games...
town http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7765456
town http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7737426
town http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7643819
scum http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7231303
and the whole tone sounds completely different from him here.
on the other hand...
scum http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7186368
546 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7152032
That one (and some of the next few) sound similar to some of the stuff he's been spewing this game.
Moreover, I just don't see cause for him to get THAT angry in the first place in this game. Feels like he's playing it up. And I agree with TT's bit about him active lurking; he's posting a lot, but he really isn't doing much of anything productive.
VOTE: Boonskiies
In post 987, mhsmith0 wrote:I will admit I'm a bit put off by the L-2 and L-1 votes not bothering to point that out. Also, I'll parrot Sayaka from earlier and ask that we don't quick-hammer day 2 like we did day 1. I'm still comfortable being on this wagon, but let's at least take a bit of time before we hammer.
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townpoints for Almost for trying to get the game going. But badpoints for strangely trying to link lynches. I'm sure I'm biased on this one, but I don't see the Exp/Lowell link at all. And not in the "oh man I've been trying so hard to distance but damn he got me" way. But in the, "I have no idea what is happening" way.-
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In post 1328, mhsmith0 wrote:I can certainly see a potential association w/ Lowell due to Boon's non-hammer, but I'd also consider it plausible that Boon's scum-mates told him not to draw attention to himself by derp-hammering, or that he himself made that call. I'd tend to file that one under somewhat suspicious as opposed to strongly incriminating.
This is what I'm saying. Believe me or not, but I'd never derp-hammer a scumpartner as scum. If you're not bussing early and often, there's no reason to bus at all.-
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Still haven't caught up, sorry. A skim gives me townvibes on texcat and Almost 50 recently, and I still believe sakura is town based on the battle with boon yesterday.
VOTE: expedience
This is naked vote someone I previously called town. I'm just going to do this and try to weather the storm, because this day is nowhere. My reasoning here, such as it is, isn't so much the case on exp itself (which is fine, but not overwhelming), but more based on who is on the wagon and exp's reaction to it.-
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