Mini 1794: Gunslingers Ahoy! {Game Over}
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This is titus scum tunnelling, looks very different from this game.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64409
Your play here seems to be awfully similar to your play this game. Maybe I'm confirmation biased, convince me I am.
Answer my questions when you get the time please-
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Murder, why did you think it was titus/chilled before?
Also, what was your read on blackstar? KAAG?
Nero, does titus usually moonlogic as scum?
Also, have you used WIFOM for your late game kills as scum in the past, or have you only killed people that suspected you?
Titus, can you answer my other questions too please-
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In post 5046, Infinity 324 wrote:Titus, why should I townread you?
Any comments on thisIn post 5050, Infinity 324 wrote:If titus is scum this is basically a repeat of this game
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66300
Titus was scum with fb and tsq, her scumbuddies died on d2 and d4 respectively. duppin used WIFOM logic in lylo, titus called him out for it and got duppin lynched. I was sure duppin was the scum.
@Titus, what exactly made you change your mind about chumba?
I just have a feeling chumba would protect murder again and I think nero would have that same feeling. "Avoid no kills and try to WIFOM" doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me (same for the mathblade kill, matth was starting to suspect you at the end of the day)In post 5053, Infinity 324 wrote:@Titus you too, why did you read nero as town before since you two know each other
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Is this seriously why??In post 5086, Titus wrote:I gave Nero the benefit of the doubt because I wanted him to be town and he agreed with my reads.
You had nero as 2nd towniest at one point-
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This really bothers me, though I know both of you thought the team was me/dunn at the timeIn post 4647, Titus wrote:Titus > Nero > Math > Murdercat > Chilled > Chuma > Infinity > Dunn-
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"Derived Rule 1: The only innocents are bodies or mod confirmed townies. Yes, while it's unlikely for certain fakeclaims to exist, they are not confirmed town. Most of the time claims that would have to be ridiculous to be fakeclaims are. Yet, don't assume a claim is real because the scum motivation is not immediately apparent."
Haha this is so relevant
Ok this describes titus's play this game, she tunneled chumba forIn post 19, Nero Cain wrote:Titus is town when she has very strange reasons for suspecting those players and refuses to budge.all day 3. I mean she did change her read eventually, but still-
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It kinda looks like classic noob scum to me. KAAG probably had some real world stuff he had to do, but it definitely would benefit scum for him not to be very engaged. A lot of questions that aren't relevant to scumhunting...I caught another noob scum in a recent game for exactly that.In post 5098, MURDERCAT wrote:I reread it yesterday, it looked like a fairly whatever catch up and a push for an easy mislynch. I'll reread it knowing chilled is scum though.-
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Man I really don't like how KAAG keeps soft defending his null read chilledIn post 2398, pirate mollie wrote:to be fair I did go a little psycho on titus cos I was questioning her intentions. I am not offended that kuroi called me psycho but titus gets touchy about words like that. like I am not even allowed to use the word retarded around her lol. she gets really protective of her friends and she always sicks up for the underdog or if she thinks some1 is getting bullied.
I just want to point out that she wld do this as either alignment but if kuroi is scum then I don't think titus wld be, not after the recent exchanges. I don't think.-
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Man why didn't we lynch chilled d3In post 1876, RachMarie wrote:@ mollie? You really think TBG or accountant over tea? for an investigative role, if there is one? I would have figured tea would be a better bet since there is more suspicion on him, and his activity is not super high.-
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I think mollie died because of this and suspicion on KAAG, doesn't point to titus's alignment either way but I think it makes sense to roleblock the vig shot and keep the lynch pool open. So mollie kill slightly points to nero scum but not by much.In post 2624, Chumba wrote:Why on earth would I protect Mollie? If I protect anyone it's obviously going to be accountant. Maybe murder but certainly not Mollie.-
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Spoiler: episode 2: return of the colored vote counts
Think this points more to a nero scum also, especially given how long chilled was on the blackstar wagon.
PEdit: Who would you have shot n3 as scum other than math?
I think chumba kill makes it slightly more likely for titus to be scum.-
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I don't understand the NK situation at all, whoever scum is was trying to WIFOM.
Titus scum would want to kill chumba and then math/murder
Nero scum would want to kill murder and then me
PEdit: Well first off killing the doctor n3 prevents a possible no kill n4. Also titus could've been lynched d4 maybe-
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I think math would have suspected titus had they lived.
Could definitely see nero just trying to WIFOM his way out of this though. He definitely noticed how much I flip-flopped, and he said something about chumba dying meaning titus scum d4-
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I don't know, I thought I gave you benefit of the doubt and discussed a lot...I tried to look at things from as unbiased as a perspective as possible but the more I looked at the more it lead to you being scum.
I still don't see Titus bussing just to go against her self meta when there weren't many people that knew her meta in the game. I also think it would've been much easier for Titus to get Dunn lynched if she didn't discredit herself by tunneling on the Doctor who everyone read as town.
No one likes to be pressured into bussing, I think your reaction may have been an immediate way to get out of that. I still don't understand your logic, you agreed to hammer when me and Titus were pressuring you to vote Dunn, but then you call us scum for pressuring you to vote chilled? Your response is WIFOM as best.-
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I skimmed that stuff, I might read more in depth later.
1 is NAI I agree
2 I agree and I think it's very important to point out that chilled was somewhat actively pushing the lynch on blackstar, for some time, on d1.
3 Not sure what you're trying to say here
4 On the surface it looks like black's vote is scummier but he had been indecisive and sheepy that whole time. Nothing much AI about KAAG's vote
5 Yeah it feels weird that KAAG d1 keeps questioning chilled votes and then d2 he just votes him for that one thing (and repeats it too). Kinda like "it's d2, I can bus now"
6 I think the interaction here looks more like TvS, would expect kuroi being bussed to push back and call titus scum or something.
I might just be conf biasing all this stuff idk -_-
Other stuff:
-Still in love with 2385. Titus doesn't usually do these types of things I think so it could be an effort to look town though...
-This really doesn't feel like titus-scum
-I feel like if titus was scum we would've lost already.
PEdit: let me look at 3 again
and ehh I think it's up to you whether you want to iso-
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Do you think this is town or scumIn post 2402, Titus wrote:Grrrr, you can check out other games to see evidence of how I treat people and this isn't fake.-
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Ok, so in retrospect what was really going on was kuroi trying to convince dunn to get on the derek counterwagon. I really feel like it would've been hard to construe the conversation in a different way if you knew the real answer (i.e. if titus was scum)In post 2200, Titus wrote:That conversation between you and Dunn looked very much like you were trying to convince Dunn that there wasn't enough support on me/Chilled to warrant a lynch on Chilled and telling him to get onto the Derek wagon.-
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QFTIn post 5178, MURDERCAT wrote:If Titus is scum I'll be mad, but everything is pointing towards Nero for me.
VOTE: nero
If chumba and dunn were right we owe a big apology to them. If we're right we'll feel really good about ourselves
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Give me post game thoughts to show you're not trollingIn post 5190, Titus wrote:Town wins!!!!! Yes!-
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Nero - you played really well man, you were just unlucky that my townreads were so accurate so I PoE'ed down to you.
Mathblade - Not your best game, we all have those, I hope you learned a thing or two about tunneling though
Dunn - I feel really bad about pushing your lynch in retrospect, I really should've known you were town.
Chilled - You really didn't play that badly, I was impressed you were able to survive for so long.
Chumba - I'm really sorry you had a bad experience this game, and I'm really sorry about your father. I hope you have better experiences whatever else you choose to do.
Titus - You did tunnel on chumba, but I really liked how you equivocated on your reads when we most needed you. Your depth of analysis helped a lot.
Murdercat - You were awesome to work with, once you stopped tunneling on me I felt a lot more comfortable having someone who I could discuss things with and who could back up my reads.
I'm curious if anyone else who's not in the game right now is still following it, probably not though-
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In post 5195, Titus wrote:Game is over. Zero point to troll.In post 5202, Nero Cain wrote:Titus your scum game is wonderful. You had Infinity and Murder completely fooled.-
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