Mini 1812 | Quolls | Endgame

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VOTE: Hiplop

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Lol Plot, I can already tell reformatting your vote counts for VCA is going to be a huge pain in the ass later.

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Lol Plot, I can already tell reformatting your vote counts for VCA is going to be a huge pain in the ass later.

Copy and paste

Yes I am aware this is a function thank you...

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VOTE: Robb

You're fluffing. Do you do that more as town or scum?

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Hey KTS, hope you read your role PM this time...

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ok

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What do you want to do to start the game then?

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What would happen if all of town did that?

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Lol says who.

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Who's that?

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(Says the guy who modded the game where I had 2/3 scum pinned on day 1.)

Tis true tho.

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Figured. I just get lucky a lot

I will say that you will know I'm town by the end of the day.

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What's the contradiction?

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My initial mental response to your post was to think I don't see how that's really scummy, but upon more reflection I could see scum 1. looking for a reason to act like they are killing RVS and 2. hedging their bets on their read.

VOTE: Rask

Let's try this.

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Yeah I just wanted to see how you reacted to a poke.

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The sheeper becomes the sheepee!

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Why

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No

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So this is gunna be a

weird

game.

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Don't see much so far besides a bunch of NAI shitposting

M A F I A S C U M . N E T

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lol

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Lol

You are town by default, until someone wagons you for a dumb reason and then I'll know for sure.

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Nacho, where are you at?

Bella too?

People I feel confident reading please post more.

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Explain how he is assuming you are town in that comment.

Pedit: It has to be a wagon that actually has a chance of going through

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I'm having a real hard time figuring out what you are trying to say.

pedit: yeah I think that point is dumb, but whatever, it makes sense at least

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Rob didn't ask you either and you didn't have a problem with that?

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I've only seen him in one game, but he was pretty townie and it's better than nothing.

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VOTE: The_Jester

Until you come up with something.

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I gotta ISO everyone cause I'm clueless atm

This sounds fake as fuck.

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Jester how about you stop flailing and produce content.

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VOTE: The_Jester

Until you come up with something.

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I think the point is legitimate SS, why didn't you move off your RVS vote if you saw a wagon you liked?

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tfw I have to tell people to knock their stupid shit off lmao.

lol

I'm ok staying on Jester for now until he decides to do anything noteworthy.

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fucking lol

I am leaning town on KTS for now I think.

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You think ASP wagon is better?

I kind of feel that. I also don't want Jester to just do nothing though.

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VLA to the 22nd, I should be able to post every day though.

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Works for me. Nacho is a good player, but he typically posts in big bunches.

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VOTE: Dragon of the West

Worst iso, imo.

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Show just ended but phone is at 1% Don't see much so far besides a bunch of NAI shitposting

All fluff from him and 5 pages in he has no reads. I don't think I love the ASP wagon, tbh.

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you've mentioned not liking the asp wagon a few times

why

Gut. Just not feeling it. Not that I have a town read there, I just don't really get any ~~vibes~~. Talk to me about why his entrance was bad.

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nope

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{}
{Bella, hip, dwlee, rask, KTS, Robb}
{Jester, vedith, ASP}
{nacho, dragon, shadow}
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All gut leans, sorry.

Pedit: UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nacho

I disagree, I don't mind making one.

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Nacho for fluffing and not coming back.
Dragon hasn't really done anything.
Shadow is just antagonistic maybe, I don't know I have to meta him, but something about it feels fake. Who cares so much so early?

Bella - probably doesn't naked vote
hip - town by default, advancing the game state at least
dwlee - gut
rask - I liked the tone in 238
KTS - weird shit seems towny, why does scum draw attention like that
Robb - had a few townie posts I liked

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What

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Yeah, I just don't see the point on page 12

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Is that to me? Are you guys really sure who you want to target? I don't know who I want to target yet.

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Ok well I'll let you guys know

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I'm confused why he is using it as an excuse to not post content as well

Exactly what I was thinking...

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Well that looks more like the nacho I know. Something still feels a bit off though, I still don't know what he thinks of any other players. Nacho, we hypo day 2+?

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I think the nacho votes look ok now.

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I think the nacho votes look ok now.

I think Nacho is trying to employ a strategy that can be confusing, so he's explaining it day 1. If anything, I'd fine that town indicative rather than scum indicative, but I'm still waiting for his content on people.

It has nothing to do with the hypo plan it has to do with me not feeling like I know his reads which is odd.

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I think the nacho votes look ok now.

I think Nacho is trying to employ a strategy that can be confusing, so he's explaining it day 1. If anything, I'd fine that town indicative rather than scum indicative, but I'm still waiting for his content on people.

It has nothing to do with the hypo plan it has to do with me not feeling like I know his reads which is odd.

Well, he hasn't really given out his reads.

Yeah exactly, my vote will move if he's obv town like normal when he does those posts.

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Well that looks more like the nacho I know. Something still feels a bit off though, I still don't know what he thinks of any other players. Nacho, we hypo day 2+?

I think the nacho votes look ok now.

I don't understand this, can you explain it to me?
You start leaning to Nacho being more like himself (which I can only assume town him in your eyes) then you think the votes on him look okay?
If this is the case, what changed in the 2 posts between these?

Even in the first post I say I'm not satisfied...

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Yeah exactly, my vote will move if he's obv town like normal when he does those posts.

Doesn't saying this kind of defeat the purpose of voting him for pressure?

If obv towning were easy everyone could do it.

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MURDERCAT I think is scummy mainly for meta differences but have a very limited meta experience with him and thus have pretty low confidence in voting there.

I've been in London for a week hence the meta change. Luckily I have some time now.

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Whatever, nacho wagon can wait if he's scum.

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VOTE: KTS

Sheepy and I think his read on me is fake. This is a real wagon that I want to happen.

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God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

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I don't feel so great about it when a bunch of people just hop on without a lot of thought...

It's not like I posted a wall case or anything.

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Easier for scum too...

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Lol dwlee

You don't think it's reasonable to feel uncomfortable when a bunch of people sheep the wagon I start with out any thought? I thought I was a town read and that's why you steeped me but now you are scum reading me? Whatever I have a pretty strong town read on you.

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Dwlee when did I say anything about Dragon? I'm still on KTS...

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Lol dwlee

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Flip me if you want dwlee I promise you I'm town. Go read my scum games if you are going to use meta.

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Mmk.

Dwlee you are making an assumption about how I react to pressure and I'm telling you that assumption is wrong.

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I actually say lol a lot, usually when phone posting. I'll give you a big list tomorrow. And anyway you are comparing apples and oranges. Your push on me is dumb and I think you know it. Like you somehow think it's scummy whether you think I stay on the KTS wagon or not. If I was scum trying to push a counterwagon I wouldn't be critizing those votes. If I was scum on my buddy KTS I would have never voted there. I am town who had a weak gutty read and felt weird about 3 people immediately jumping on with me, which is a totally reasonable reaction. I stayed on because me read didn't change but I can still criticize shit votes.

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Damn it dwlee that push was so bad I almost scum read you for it but I didn't because other posting says you are town.

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Well that was honestly pretty suprising considering how shit day 1 felt. I'll need to reread. Someone figure out why hip died? I don't think he was that strongly town read, did he hint PR? Or was he pushing someone weird?

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I need to reread hiplop but I can pretty much promise you he was on scum.

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MURDERCAT, why didn't you two follow up your thought with a push/doubts on me?

What are you referring to?

I think we should lynch asp and then insta lynch nacho if asp is town.

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VOTE: asp

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Lucky for you I'm about to do a reread!

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Spoiler: reread

Ok so hiplop is conf town and dragon is conf scum. Those will be my guides for this reread. Paying special attention to ASP too.

he is quoting my sig lol

I know. Im not THAT dumb. He was criticizing your deviance from that plan.

Feeling dwlee town for this stuff, by the way.

108 is a nothing post by ASP.

simple plans entrance is bad

Important.

I'm conftown

VOTE: simpleplan

hes not

VOTE: ASP

Eeeehh. It looked worse on first impression than now but there's nothing better?

Hmm why Hip and not rask? I feel like ASP is scum and hip was killed because of a PR read or something like that but we are lucky and right about him being scum.

Jester wagon is REAL BAD

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Worst iso, imo.

Shoulda stuck on that.

Show just ended but phone is at 1% Don't see much so far besides a bunch of NAI shitposting

All fluff from him and 5 pages in he has no reads. I don't think I love the ASP wagon, tbh.

Hmm should I trust past self?

I don't have a problem with ASP agreeing with a read the person he had his vote on made.

Important.

As was specified, I thought I would be able to do a catchup post, and I wasn't. I'm sorry.

I've sorta skim read everything, and I'm pleased that Nacho is picking up the pace a little bit.
I still like what I said about Shadow's vote on Vedith. He's produced nothing worthwhile, aside from some bs about I have to be scum because I agree with something said by the guy I'm voting for. That's... Bad.

VOTE: Vedith

Last note for now, this isn't the Bella I'm used to, but I agree that I don't really quite get this Nacho thing. I'll have to reread that.

I do know that the next few days are going to be stupid busy for me, though.

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Putting myself on V/LA until further notice. If I do not post in the next 84 hours (3 days 12 hours, equating to late Sunday my time) please replace me regardless of this message.

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I think I can lynch him for this post.

Reading over things, I've come to the decision that i might be wrong about Vedith in terms of him being scum. Rereading his ISO for Open 606 and Micro 547 (I'll link to them later, I'm late for a dinner date ATM) the only major difference I can see in his playstyle is activity, which is decisively in my book not alignment indicative. He was town both of the aforementioned games. For now...

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We are lynching this.

473 makes me think nacho is town

Id prefer asp death to kts

Important.

519 Nacho is town friends.

The dragon wagon sucks, lynch murdercat.

lol dwlee

532 more dwlee is town evidence

I'm guessing we can't swing an ASP lynch last minute?

Why aren't you dead.

KTS town for the hammer.

All in is town for his slot by the way.

Ugh Rask maybe I'll read that wall later, I agree ASP is scum though.

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nope

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There's like 3 different points I said to myself dwlee is pretty much for sure town on day 1.

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Oh, I just don't think scum does that to a buddy that's about to be lynched at deadline.

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vote asp so KTS can hammer scum again.

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claim

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Gunna reread dragon later.

Rip Rask. Probably died for being town read.

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as opposed to a tracker tell I mean

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Because I didn't notice any tells.

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VOTE: Jester

Has done nothing.

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^ yeah that

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Is Bella due for a prod?

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Oh lol.

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Give a post by post of nacho

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I WANT TO HAMMER BOTH SCUM TO WIN THE GAME! ! !

Thank you Kain

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And probably at least 1 on dragon

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Jester is worst by far of all those

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We have a good wagon vedith, jester can either produce content or eat rope.

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N1 target nacho n2 target kts

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Not a PL, I think there's a good chance he's scum.

Also, what else can we do with him? I mean read his ISO.

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VOTE: Vedith

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Not until Jester does something useful.

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I don't want to L-1 him before he responds anyway.

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I believe it barring a direct CC, dwlee let it go

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Vedith is the jester's counter wagon please L-1 that shit

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Jester do you have some sort of timeline in which you plan to produce content? Can I get a reads list?

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Please vote Jester to L-1

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Ummm ok this was mostly a pressure wagon but alright I agree with you the vote was scummy.

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Nooo not Dwlee take me instead

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It's not me dude dwlee was town reading me.

I'll reread his ISO, maybe it was just a shot on someone who was town read.

VOTE: Bella

Content please.

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Are we in Mylo?

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Oh no we are not

VOTE: Bella

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So you did investigate all in and nacho and they are both town?

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Oh you are 3+ shot?? God damn wasn't expecting that.

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Bellaphant

(L-2):

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Lol

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Let's kill confirmed scum please.

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I mean as opposed to lynching someone who isn't Bella.

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Access has been up and down for me

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Uhhhhh

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Lmao

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I think we have to lynch vedith

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Nacho why didn't you wait until after mass claim to out those results?

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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

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I'm asking you to name a possible role that could have caused this result.
It's a normal game, there are a limited amount of roles.

But I hardly know roles in general, so how am I supposed to know what role will be here?

There's a list

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There's a list

I still don't get it, I'm not sure how I am supposed to know why I got a guilty.

You just have to list any possible situation that could involve you getting a guilty that is also normal. It doesn't have to be right, there just has to be one situation where that is possible.

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KTS, did you claim?

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Oh yes you did.

Ok I'm buying what you are selling

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@Plot I still have no wifi but I'm going to the library every day so I think I'm good

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Vedith if you are town you will go through that list of normal roles and find a situation that would explain how you got a guilty on a town player. You will do this, if you are town, because if your next group of posts doesn't contain a situation that explains that I'm voting you and we will lose.

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KTS, I'll read up but it makes sense to me that there scum would come out hard bussing today. And it explains the hiplop kill. And I think you would be the target for a mislynch from Scum's perspective. Vedith who should we lynch today?

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Cops don't get fake guilties in normals. If mod wanted fake guilties you'd be a gunsmith. We are lynching vedith today.

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Yeah we are basically confirmed town now due to the results I think, I'll have to think about that more. Anyway there is no scenario that vedith is town so

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KTS, I'll read up but it makes sense to me that there scum would come out hard bussing today. And it explains the hiplop kill. And I think you would be the target for a mislynch from Scum's perspective. Vedith who should we lynch today?

KTS or Nacho.
I've already said that you and Shadow cannot be scum together.
I've had you as my town read long enough, and the fact you are actually pushing for a reason why, really tells me town.

KTS could easily be doing a diversion vote where he parks his vote on Nacho until someone else votes me, he's also not had the best game apart from hammering Dragon.
Nacho - Saying that there most likely are no more town roles but yet I'm a scum cop with a JOAT. "CC" at LyLo instead. Says it was too rushed to claim any results, but he was posting enough yesterday after my claim. Comes active in LyLo.

I still don't think that Nacho is scum.
He even said that Bella wasn't confirmed when I said I have a guilty.

Lmao

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You went from scum reading nacho to saying you don't think he's scum...

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Intent

If you have anything to add vedith now is the time.

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Lol...

Actually?

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Cool

VOTE: Vedith

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See you in post game

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GG friends, thanks for modding plot