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no one is slightly town alignedIn post 29, iraonavp wrote:Are you sure? What made you make that vote?
I think that Trivium is slightly town-aligned.
they are either town or scum-
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oh man we are going to butt heads really hard this gameIn post 48, Town Mafioso wrote:
Youre both town.In post 45, Trivium wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Don't like voting the same person in RVS
Don't like the way he responded to pressure
Don't like how he casually mentioned his town-read on me
Lets make a townbloc-
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iraonavp is town shame on youIn post 45, Trivium wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Don't like voting the same person in RVS
Don't like the way he responded to pressure
Don't like how he casually mentioned his town-read on me-
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Yeah Trivium is definitely scumIn post 62, Trivium wrote:In post 56, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: Iraonvp
I think I will always think you are scum in every game. Let's wagon this so I can get a read here please.
these are examples of bad sheepingIn post 58, JaeReed wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Wagon, yo. Also, don't like early townreads with no real basis. Generally comes from scum.-
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omg this is such obvious bs man its page 4 why are you explaining so muchIn post 78, Trivium wrote:Mainly town. His vote may have seemed opportunistic, but he also added an FOS on IaI with kind of solid reasoning, so that's a town-read from me. However I would like it if he gave his opinion on other things as well, such as my scum-read on yourself.
no town would have thought this much about things already you are just spewing stuff to sound good lol-
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He's not, I just played a game with TrivIn post 88, Town Mafioso wrote:
I know you are most likely town.In post 84, Bacde wrote:
oh man we are going to butt heads really hard this gameIn post 48, Town Mafioso wrote:
Youre both town.In post 45, Trivium wrote:VOTE: iraonavp
Don't like voting the same person in RVS
Don't like the way he responded to pressure
Don't like how he casually mentioned his town-read on me
Lets make a townbloc
Talk with me. Your points on Triv are good, but i think hes being dumbtown tbh
He's scum, look at the way he opened all nervous about wagons for no reason, and he is criticizing some players for wagoning with him but not others? He doesn't make any sense from a town pov.
He criticized players who hopped on the IaI wagon without explaining their reads but liked Jarjar's vote on the wagon for some reason, yet his top (contrived) critique of Jarjar is that he isn't explaining his reads.
He's already caught up in contradicting ideas and its only page 4 lol-
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what a great reason to townread someoneIn post 93, JarJarDrinks wrote:Liking Triv as town. His reads have mirrored mine thus far.-
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omg you proved that you are town with this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!In post 104, Trivium wrote:
It's opportunistic when you don't add anything. Done.In post 90, Bacde wrote:Like how is a 2nd vote on someone in any way 'opportunistic'
he's just making stuff up
good thing you made it
I can't see right through it or anything-
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I wish you didn't have a semi-grudge against listening to me because I was scum last game and voted you all game lolIn post 112, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Cause I'm also scumreading ira. I only have 1 vote.In post 109, Town Mafioso wrote:
Then what the hell is your voteIn post 108, JarJarDrinks wrote:Murdercats vote isn't really opportunistic though. It's just how he voted was slimy as F. He's basically calling it a policy vote but pretending it isn't.
I know you aren't doing it on purpose but its definitely happening-
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Well you aren't really responding to me or my points and I know you're good at mafia since you are so damn hard to mislynchIn post 116, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Huh? Not sure what ur talking about.In post 114, Bacde wrote:
I wish you didn't have a semi-grudge against listening to me because I was scum last game and voted you all game lolIn post 112, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Cause I'm also scumreading ira. I only have 1 vote.In post 109, Town Mafioso wrote:
Then what the hell is your voteIn post 108, JarJarDrinks wrote:Murdercats vote isn't really opportunistic though. It's just how he voted was slimy as F. He's basically calling it a policy vote but pretending it isn't.
I know you aren't doing it on purpose but its definitely happening
maybe listen to me this game?
I'll listen to you too i promise-
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Wait you think everyone posting is town?In post 141, JarJarDrinks wrote:
me too?In post 139, Town Mafioso wrote:This is town fighting town at the moment-
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you promise?
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you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??In post 159, Accountant wrote:Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon
This is also basically why I think TM is town.
Accountant is scum
Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
Vote: Xkfyu
pls sheep-
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you have no sense of humorIn post 173, Town Mafioso wrote:
Pls stop.In post 170, Bacde wrote:
you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??In post 159, Accountant wrote:Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon
This is also basically why I think TM is town.
Accountant is scum
Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
Vote: Xkfyu
pls sheep
and you're voting town I think so why should I stop-
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???In post 176, Accountant wrote:
Townslip is townslip no matter what page it's on
you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??
what was the townslip-
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he townslippedIn post 177, Accountant wrote:
Not too impresed tbh but not bad enough to reverse my read on himIn post 172, MURDERCAT wrote:Accountant talk to me about JJD's later posts.
Can people explain why iraon is town-
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I'll keep that in mind after you flip mafiaIn post 187, Accountant wrote:That's a weird way of spelling MURDERCAT
Though just because someone is an easy push for hypothetical mafia doesn't mean their town-
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I have more faith in JJD's abilities than you I guessIn post 190, Accountant wrote:
Remember when JJD was sheeping you without giving reasons? That's a townslip. Mafia has an obsession with justifying everything they do and giving long lists of reasons for doing stuff. That doesn't mean that people who justify themselves excessively are mafia, but it does mean that people who don't are town. I feel like a mafia JJD would have come up with a better reason than "sheep lol" in order to look good, which is another thing mafia are obsessed with.In post 189, Trivium wrote:What exactly is this townslip people are talking about.-
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Oh was he voting you? I didn't check which is why I put down "I think"In post 198, JarJarDrinks wrote:
@bacde, why call accountant out for his townread of me if ur townreading me too?In post 175, Bacde wrote:
you have no sense of humorIn post 173, Town Mafioso wrote:
Pls stop.In post 170, Bacde wrote:In post 159, Accountant wrote:Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon
This is also basically why I think TM is town.you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??
Accountant is scum
Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
calls
Vote: Xkfyu
pls sheep
and you're voting town I think so why should I stop
I'm not sure about your alignment tbh-
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maybe everyone (mafia included) is pushing him because he's playing like thatIn post 196, Trivium wrote:
Maybe he seems like that because he's mafia.In post 186, Bacde wrote:basically iraonvp is playing exactly like someone I would push for an easy lynch if I was mafia so I'm just assuming he's town and finding the more likely mafias
statistically, since every player is more likely to be town than mafia, I am more likely to be correct here in thinking that he is getting cop-out wagoned
so I have a better batting average with my method of scumhunting-
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well at least you're smart I'll give you thatIn post 194, Accountant wrote:
There was no ira townslip, that was Bacde being a snarklordIn post 192, Trivium wrote:
Oh. I thought people were talking about some kind of ira townslipIn post 190, Accountant wrote:
Remember when JJD was sheeping you without giving reasons? That's a townslip. Mafia has an obsession with justifying everything they do and giving long lists of reasons for doing stuff. That doesn't mean that people who justify themselves excessively are mafia, but it does mean that people who don't are town. I feel like a mafia JJD would have come up with a better reason than "sheep lol" in order to look good, which is another thing mafia are obsessed with.In post 189, Trivium wrote:What exactly is this townslip people are talking about.
but JJD didn't townslip
saying he townslipped is like saying the last game JJD and I played together was his first game-
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In post 195, Trivium wrote:I like the cut of your jib.subtle appeasement of player who is insulting Bacde with an attempt at making Bacde's arguments seem illegitimate
Accountant, I'm still willing to switch back to Trivium if you are willing to take off your blindfold and vote him with me =]-
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Lol I didn't know, I have a big ego so I was just assuming someone not voting who I wanted them to was voting for townIn post 226, JarJarDrinks wrote:
so the who did u think he was voting for?In post 201, Bacde wrote:
Oh was he voting you? I didn't check which is why I put down "I think"In post 198, JarJarDrinks wrote:
@bacde, why call accountant out for his townread of me if ur townreading me too?In post 175, Bacde wrote:
you have no sense of humorIn post 173, Town Mafioso wrote:
Pls stop.In post 170, Bacde wrote:In post 159, Accountant wrote:Jar is town wtf
No mafia member sits at his computer and writes a post like #46 and clicks submit. Mafia members love to try to look town and reasoned and back up all their reads with long chains of fake reasoning. Like if Jar was mafia he wouldn't blatantly sheep like that, he'd come up with his own story and then vote iraon
This is also basically why I think TM is town.you realize you're basing a strong read on a 2nd page post right??
Accountant is scum
Still up for lynching Xkfyu as a joke
calls
Vote: Xkfyu
pls sheep
and you're voting town I think so why should I stop
I'm not sure about your alignment tbh-
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Nice, I don't really remember saying.much about cat but I'll take credit for sureIn post 231, Accountant wrote:Okay Bacde, Jae, you were right about cat being town, I'll give you that one-
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Re bad read man self.meta exists and isn't always fake it can be realIn post 246, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Also this reads to me as "Please notice that I'm playing to my town meta."In post 232, evilpacman18 wrote:Check my game history. I never vote until I'm ready for the day to end.-
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its not a hilarious joke if you suggest more than one person, it just becomes an awkward attempt at forcing lynches on afk pplIn post 256, Accountant wrote:why xyk and not tam?-
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I don't think he's bad???In post 272, MURDERCAT wrote:Just because you think someone is bad doesn't meant they are scum. I understand this vote, but I feel like he's probably town who isn't reading well.
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heh hehIn post 279, JarJarDrinks wrote:I do recall. I'd say my play hasn't changed at all since I've been pretty damn successful playing the way I have.-
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EPM is town guys stop pushing ppl for having a playstyle you are unwilling to attempt to understandIn post 281, evilpacman18 wrote:ira is probably the player I've written the most on
In post 41, evilpacman18 wrote:iraonavp how many games have you played?In post 42, evilpacman18 wrote:I would argue that confidence and self-assuredness is everything but a town tell. It's usually either a scum tell or a personality tell.In post 227, evilpacman18 wrote:
you're rightIn post 151, Bacde wrote:$5 says both iraonavp and murdercat are townIn post 228, evilpacman18 wrote: 164 -Accountant, that's why i asked how new iraon is to this game. his tone seems stuffy and formal. but he might just write like that, and it could be misleading in trying to read authenticity of his posts. I haven't noticed anything wrong with his intent.In post 234, evilpacman18 wrote:Rn i don't think iraon is anything and I don't see much material for anyone else to have a read there. But I would also understand if people read him in either direction
if you can't tell what the thread of my read on him is, I thought he was town earlier on, Accountant pointed out some stuff that I agreed could be a case for a scum read, but I felt like his tone obscures his intent, so I'm just waiting on deciding on that one. Idk why it's surprising to anyone that I think someone who writes kinda strange is the hardest to read in the game, but JarJar is way off the mark to say that he's the only person I've been ignoring.In post 259, evilpacman18 wrote:
^^reasonable peopleIn post 249, Bacde wrote:
TrueIn post 238, Accountant wrote:ira is far from obvious town
Shouldn't Lynch it tho-
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how does anyone think this is town lol holy bucketsIn post 266, Trivium wrote:Accountant strikes town, but not evilpacman. Can't really read much of this, and I have to try really hard not to make up some random BS. The let's lynch xkfyu as a joke thing is really awkward, to the point where I feel like it's scummy, but weirdly scummy like it's trying to be too obvious. I also don't like how bacde brought up a previous game and claimed that jarjar had a grudge on him for being maf in it.-
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yesIn post 289, Trivium wrote:In post 236, Town Mafioso wrote:You know what, youre right
This is my scum play to defend town.
Problem is: im not lynching obvious fucking town in ira/triv.
More accountant votes plzIn post 243, Town Mafioso wrote:In post 242, Town Mafioso wrote:Nah.
I just dont give a shit on what you have to say since we are going to agree to disagree
Are we all just going to ignore this?In post 242, Town Mafioso wrote:Nah.
I just give a shit on what you have to say since we are going to agree to disagree-
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????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/In post 297, Tam wrote:OK, this is my first game in yeeeeears and I got sick this weekend...something about ribs, sun and tequila? Anyhow, I think I beat the deadline. I dunno. I'm confused. The timer I was sent has expired, but I have a message saying midnight tonight...but not sure which timezone at midnight. I am in the U.S.- Central time, so it is 7:30 (or 19:30, whatever floats your boat) here.
Sorry about the delay...I am on page 8 so far. Just wanted to check in!
Out of curiosity- there seems to be an awful lot of people jumping around pointing fingers really early on- but really meaning it, not just to speed things along for clues...is this typical nowadays? It used to be a mafia warning sign...
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he's not actually scumhunting thats why his posts come across as lazy scumhunting fyiIn post 303, MURDERCAT wrote:
This is lazy scumhunting. Why is that more likely to come from scum?In post 290, Trivium wrote:"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.-
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$5 says trivium isn't going to like how you are satisfied with pacman's defense because he was subtely trying to encourage you to push pacman (he was trying to mislynch pacman the townie)In post 300, Accountant wrote:
This feels like it could be playstyle though, there are a lot of players who will act like this. I overall don't get a feeling of defensiveness from TM.In post 290, Trivium wrote:"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.
pacmans defense satisfies me
Hey Tam, how many games have you completed on this site?Out of curiosity- there seems to be an awful lot of people jumping around pointing fingers really early on- but really meaning it, not just to speed things along for clues...is this typical nowadays? It used to be a mafia warning sign...-
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well at least you are town =] what's upIn post 306, Tam wrote:I'm all caught up now. Thanks JaeReed. I'm still not sure what to make of all of that, or if it is anything at all. I'm still a bit tired and marathon read it, but for now I will just point out the bits that stand out to me.
I agree completely with JarJar and am also waiting patiently to hear back from evilpacman about this. I feel it's a bit suspicious.
Accountant seems to have just suddenly stepped in the game and literally gone for the nearest bare throat he saw, and has Iraon locked in his sights. The attack on him seems very direct and very forced somehow. As far as I can tell, the whole suspicion thing on Iraon was just him and trivium bumping heads slightly and he didn't seem to answer things quite right. I have gotten stuck in this trap myself so I agree that he probably just reads formal and maybe a tad awkward, but it could also be nervousness & defensiveness if he is bad. I don't really have a good read on him yet, but I do find it extremely weird that Accountant jumped on him like that and just won't let up. Accountant, can you shed some light on why you are so quick to jump on Iraon? You seem quite eager.
Town Mafioso- I find your entire demeanor highly suspicious, which, oddly, makes me think that that's just your Style, and an excellent smoke-screen for you when you are mafia...I will have to go back and eyeball a few of your games to see how that plays out, but you are either a character player, or I find you very sus...
Accountant- I have played more than 15 games..not sure exactly how many but you are welcome to look up my posts.-
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hmm maybe I'm wrongIn post 326, Accountant wrote:Bacde where do you get that triv is pushing an ML on pac, last I saw he was accusing JJD of twisting pacs words to make him(pac) look scummy
we should probably lynch a lurker today anyway-
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I don't get it manIn post 329, Trivium wrote:In post 317, Bacde wrote:
I don't think he's bad???In post 272, MURDERCAT wrote:Just because you think someone is bad doesn't meant they are scum. I understand this vote, but I feel like he's probably town who isn't reading well.
are you happy that I don't think you are bad or are you laughing at me or something
lol I seriously don't get it-
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dude this line of questioning is all mafia theory and not likely to reveal iavp's alignmentIn post 457, MURDERCAT wrote:That is not an answer. If scum is more likely to try to blend in and it looks townie when you provide reasoning, why is scum not more likely to provide reasoning?-
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+1In post 489, JarJarDrinks wrote:like an IAI/Town Mafioso scumteam seems pretty probable to me right now-
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In post 538, Trivium wrote:In post 536, Bacde wrote:
+1In post 489, JarJarDrinks wrote:like an IAI/Town Mafioso scumteam seems pretty probable to me right now
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Trivium is a dude I'm willing to lynchIn post 568, Accountant wrote:If we start from the assumption that ira is town then pushing IaI is by far the best move, but I don't agree with that assumption.
Bacde: remind me your read on triv is what?-
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Can we seriously just lynch trivium already the dude is scum
I'm ok with lynching either Tam or IAI but seriously the only reason I'm not voting Trivium is because everyone was unwilling to vote him for some reason but as soon as I move my vote off him everyone agrees with me?
This is bullshit I'd be pissed if I had a bigger ego-
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