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Luna Fox · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:47 pm

Hello all!

Luna Fox · Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:43 am

Beeboy's most likely town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:44 am

Also hi Art, Murdercat and Postie ^_^ nice playing with you guys again.

Luna Fox · Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:50 am

Oh.
Yes you did, haha sorry ^_^ hi to you as well random

Luna Fox · Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:35 am

In post 27, beeboy wrote:Luna what about me

I've played a bunch with you ^_^
The others are ppl i havent played with in ages, specially Art, havent played with him in months.

Luna Fox · Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:03 am

In post 33, beeboy wrote:Random and Aristo both could be town.

Dunno about Random
Art i agree.

Also i've been fine Art, thanks for asking ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #48 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:59 am

There's no jesters in a Normal pls.
What's a BBB gambit?
IV probs town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #56 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:03 am

Actually after actually searching the ammount of finished games IV has i decided to retract my townread on him, because his experience nullifies the reasoning i initially had for it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #57 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:06 am

In post 53, Dragon of the West wrote:So I'm pretty new to mafiascum

Hi and welcome! Hope you have fun ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #58 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:07 am

In post 54, Dragon of the West wrote:My other two have seriously stalled out

What are you referring to in here?

Luna Fox · Post Post #61 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:37 am

Oh yeah, if that's ongoing reference, please dont do that again.
As far as anyone is concerned ongoing games dont exist.

Luna Fox · Post Post #65 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:48 am

Well i dont think you did that with ill intention so i hope you just get a warning.
But either way.
Dont do that again.

Now let's enjoy THIS game isntead ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #68 (isolation #12) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:06 am

Anyway, to prevent the same kind of stuff happening again, please read this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=30907
Do you have any reads yet Dragon even if it's weak.

Luna Fox · Post Post #83 (isolation #13) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:38 pm

In post 81, innocentvillager wrote:Explain your thought process here?

Jester is not Normal, it's Bastard, you should know this by now.
At first i thought you were doing it for reactions, but with your experience you should probably know that no one will fall for that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #98 (isolation #14) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 88, Postie wrote:Are the ^_^ faces making anyone else really nervous?

*points to signature*
But you're probably town anyway.

Luna Fox · Post Post #103 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:22 pm

In post 101, Postie wrote:
In post 98, Luna Fox wrote:But you're probably town anyway.
Uhhhhhhhh
why
?

I think you being nervous about my smile faces is more similar of having a town role PM and feeling like im trying to pull something with them.
Plus i also liked your vote and question towards Dragon.

Luna Fox · Post Post #105 (isolation #16) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:25 pm

In post 104, Postie wrote:Ehhhhhhhh

I'm getting paranoid about you already ugh.

And paranoia's townie so ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #106 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:26 pm

So welcome to being my first strong townread, and that only took like 3-4 posts.
Which everyone else was more obvtown.

Luna Fox · Post Post #107 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:26 pm

which -> wish

typo

Luna Fox · Post Post #114 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:04 pm

In post 109, Saru wrote:I'm assuming this is reaction testing.

Well it is my playstyle, i like to find town, because it's easier, more fun, and less mean.
Tho the paranoia reaction, that wasnt intended, but it is indeed something i strongly associate with a town mindset.
My reaction tests are much more subtle.

In post 108, Postie wrote:The more you talk about your townread on me the more I want to vote you.

You can go right ahead, but i assure you it wont help you win. Much less make me flip my read on you, nor make me vote you.
And the more you threaten to vote me based on this paranoia that im trying to fool you, the stronger my townread on you becomes.
So we can continue playing this game of you getting paranoid or me... or you can just read me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #116 (isolation #20) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:08 pm

In post 115, Postie wrote:But how do you know I'm not faking?

Tone, Timing, As well as your post about the smiles.

Luna Fox · Post Post #120 (isolation #21) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:22 pm

In post 118, Postie wrote:
In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:Tone,
What

In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:Timing,

What

In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:As well as your post about the smiles.
What

Well to explain all of those i'd have to decompose your post and kind of explain the 10000 things that go in my mind when i read people ^_^;;

Short answer is: Possibly you could've faked it, but i am fairly confident this isn't the case.

Your post about getting nervous about the smiles didnt feel like you were aiming for a mislynch.
Your reaction to when i gave you a townread, was way too quick and natural for it to be faked.

Luna Fox · Post Post #122 (isolation #22) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:24 pm

Tho i find it funny, this is the first time someone has tried to pry in how my mind works. Usually people dont question me this deep into my townreads, and that's possibly because you're doubting my alignment... which again, means you're town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #125 (isolation #23) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:28 pm

In post 124, MURDERCAT wrote:but when she is scum she isn't transparent about her reasoning because she has none.

If anything im being fairly transparent about my reasoning.
Why do you think im not being transparent?

Luna Fox · Post Post #127 (isolation #24) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:30 pm

In post 126, Postie wrote:When I played with her and she was town and I was scum she townread me pretty quickly too though so idk.

Well it's kinda hard to not do anything sort of quickly in marathon games XD

Luna Fox · Post Post #134 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:12 am

In post 133, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 103, Luna Fox wrote:Plus i also liked your vote and question towards Dragon.
How?
This question was bullocks!

It is in a townie mindset to interrogate another player into why you're scumreading them, tho people rarely tend to do this nowadays. Why do you disagree? Do you think a townie verifying someone else's alignment wouldn't ask such a question? Or do you think it's scum not knowing what to ask.

Luna Fox · Post Post #135 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:24 am

Hmm in hindsight, that was probably pretty fakeable, but doesnt matter anyways since the rest of Postie's ISO is pretty town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #137 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:02 am

Dunno, her posting doesnt make sense if she's scum.
She's had a lot of chances of using her paranoia as an excuse to jump in to vote me.
Murdercat's posting looks fake however, but i dont like voting until i have enough townreads for a PoE or we're getting close to deadline.

Luna Fox · Post Post #138 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:03 am

I mean if Murdercat's thinks i shouldn't have a reason to townread Postie, why is Murdercat trying to side up with Postie's paranoia in an effort to make her to vote me. This doesn't make sense to me from a Town PoV.

Luna Fox · Post Post #149 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:18 am

In post 148, beeboy wrote:
In post 147, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 145, beeboy wrote:
@mod do scum have day talk?

I dont believe I can answer this question

i believe in normal games this is public info but I don't have evidence to back this up.

Shouldn't be considering the ammount of mafia encryptors that appear in some of them.

Luna Fox · Post Post #152 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:20 am

Since it's not public info then they dont have day talk unless they have an encyrptor.
So basically we're in the same boat about that info.

Luna Fox · Post Post #153 (isolation #31) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:20 am

I'm pretty sure public info pertains to stuff in the OP.

Luna Fox · Post Post #157 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:24 am

In post 156, beeboy wrote:Luna what is your Kraska read?

Pedit: no worries fam

Not a townread, but crying for attention might be townie i guess?

Luna Fox · Post Post #164 (isolation #33) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:23 pm

So i guess i thought wrong.

Luna Fox · Post Post #172 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:34 pm

In post 169, beeboy wrote:Dierfire maybe town

I agree with this.

In post 171, beeboy wrote:
In post 170, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 169, beeboy wrote:Dierfire maybe town
Oh shit!
DireFire's in the game!?
And on top of that he might be town!

Are you guys implying that Direfire has a bad rep as town or something?

Luna Fox · Post Post #176 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:36 pm

Oh ok XD

Luna Fox · Post Post #178 (isolation #36) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:37 pm

You 2 made it sounds like it was a bad thing.

Luna Fox · Post Post #182 (isolation #37) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:45 pm

Why are you questioning beeboy's townread and not mine?

Luna Fox · Post Post #192 (isolation #38) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:34 pm

In post 186, Aristophanes wrote:so why do you agree with BeeBoy's townread on him?

Because if his reasoning for his read on me makes sense.

Luna Fox · Post Post #193 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:34 pm

Luna Fox · Post Post #196 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:40 pm

In post 194, beeboy wrote:Why the second if? o3o

it has a minus.
Means remove that from my previous post.

Luna Fox · Post Post #198 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:44 pm

In post 197, beeboy wrote:Gun to head (for the sake of roleplaying purposes let's pretend I am a dayvig for a bit)
Luna top 3 scum reads GO!
Aristophanes you do this exercise as well.

You know my playstyle, yet you're asking this? beeboy pls.

Luna Fox · Post Post #200 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:46 pm

I can tell you who im NOT townreading tho.
But that number is larger than 3.

Luna Fox · Post Post #202 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:46 pm

But for the sake of the exercise i'd say shoot no one, because as thing stands with my current reads, you'd have a high chance of hitting town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #204 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:48 pm

There:

MURDERCAT
AlpacaAlpaca
611
Dragon of the West
randomidget
Saru
kraska77
innocentvillager

Luna Fox · Post Post #205 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:49 pm

I did warn you that it'd be larger than 3.
And these are the people im NOT townreading.

Luna Fox · Post Post #208 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:51 pm

In post 207, beeboy wrote:I am not sure what I expected to be perfectly honest.

Well you could have gotten this list just by reading my ISO you know.

Luna Fox · Post Post #215 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:34 am

In post 211, Postie wrote:Everything Dierfire has done is null so idk where these townreads are coming from.

Luna, I need some links to your past scumgames ASAP. Thanks.

Uhh i only have like one non marathon game where i rolled scum, sure.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63492

Luna Fox · Post Post #221 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:17 am

Art is a nice guy, don't vote him!

Luna Fox · Post Post #222 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:17 am

In post 220, Aristophanes wrote:I remember that! You steamroller us,, didn't you!

I kinda barely did anything other than feed off RC's wrong reads.

Luna Fox · Post Post #225 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:23 am

In post 224, Aristophanes wrote:I have a tendency to townread friendly people.

Please townread me on play instead of friendliness.
I am always friendly and nice to others because i like making friends, that doesnt make me town however.

Luna Fox · Post Post #227 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:26 am

In post 226, Aristophanes wrote:I do think you and Beeboy are very likely town via discussions and flow, and how you look for info.

That's better ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #230 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:32 am

In post 229, innocentvillager wrote:Luna, how does your read on me change knowing this information? You said you would townread me based on me not knowing "Fool was Bastard not normal" or whatever, but it doesn't look like you are townreading me.

Because i'm not going to examine every single one of your games (you do have a lot) to see if you did play with a Jester or not before. While i could believe you dont have this kind of knowledge, i dont believe someone that's been on the site for as long as you doesnt know something as simple as "Jester is a bastard role" nor that those kind of reaction tests wont yield any results, it's not like i can mind read you to see if you're telling the truth about this or not.

So as it stands, you could go either way, so the townread for it is gone.

Can you explain why you're gut leaning town on murdercat?

Luna Fox · Post Post #233 (isolation #53) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:07 am

In post 231, innocentvillager wrote:Why aren't you scumreading me/voting me for this, if you really think I'm faking.

Because im not dismissing the possibility of you actually telling the truth, and since i have no way of knowing if you are, i have decided on reading you other posts you make.

Luna Fox · Post Post #234 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:11 am

In post 231, innocentvillager wrote:I'm pretty sure I also said that said myself that I've never joined any games except Newbie/Open. How could you miss such a simple thing? Do you really think I've been exposed to the difference between "bastard" and "normal" if I've never played in Normal/Bastard games or whatever? In general, I don't see why you wouldn't have just at least done a quick check.

On newbies, probably not.definitively not.
On Opens, possibly.
On Site, pretty likely, but not unlikely to think you may indeed not be exposed to it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #236 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:28 am

Oh i understand your point now.
You're assuming that you're only either telling the truth or lying, and that i should immediately recognize which of the 2 it is.
This is in fact not true.
You may have played X ammount of Open/Newbie games. This can be easily verified.
You may have read X ammount of games. This cannot be verified as there's no record showing as such, but the possibility is there due to your time on site.
You may have read X ammount of mafia discussion threads. Same as above.

As i cannot verify the later 2, it is impossible to me to asses whether you're telling the truth or not.
I don't understand why you can't see this angle, but i already said, im not a mind reader.
Hence your entire posts wrt Jesters is NAI, and ill just read you off your other posts.

Now, why does me not knowing if you're telling the truth or not make me scum?
Why do you think that Scum!Me would just decide to say "Oh i cant decide" instead of just trying to lynch you or buddy you which is a much easier approach?

P-Edit: (Striked the part about your scumread on me since it's no longer relevant) You would gain nothing as either alignment.
But i see you're actually trying to asses my motivations and you're adjusting your read in that manner, so now i DO have a townread on you, and it is NOT because of your Jester thing, but because i see that you're actually trying to read me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #238 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:27 am

Almost forgot that you never answered my question about your gut townread (I know what gut means, i get them all the time), just intereted in what post(s) gave you the townread if you can remember, if you dont remember or dont know then feel free to tell me that.

Luna Fox · Post Post #263 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:50 am

In post 261, Randomnamechange wrote:You seemed to be putting the most effort into solving the game

Effort how?

Luna Fox · Post Post #264 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:52 am

Here's a breakdown of "Postie's effort":

Votes a player and asks them why they are being scumread.
Gets paranoid of me
Asks me for a scumgame and doesnt reach a conclusion (yet).
Votes you and asks you for why you're being scumread.

Her paranoia looks town, but you dont seem genuine.

Luna Fox · Post Post #266 (isolation #59) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:56 am

In post 246, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 238, Luna Fox wrote:Almost forgot that you never answered my question about your gut townread (I know what gut means, i get them all the time), just intereted in what post(s) gave you the townread if you can remember, if you dont remember or dont know then feel free to tell me that.
121 123 124 look pretty genuine.

Also I like Postie for town now.

Hmm i had the opposite impression tbh, as per my: 138

Luna Fox · Post Post #271 (isolation #60) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 267, Postie wrote:
In post 261, Randomnamechange wrote:Beeboy didn't have any reason to post the day talk stuff as scum.
What about to look town?

Please dont break my heart...

Luna Fox · Post Post #273 (isolation #61) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:11 pm

You could literally apply "To look down" as a reason to discredit any sort of townread reason and that's pretty scummy.
My "Please dont break my heart..." post means you're literally destroying my townread on you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #274 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:13 pm

Also is "To loook town" not "To look down"
Dem typos

Luna Fox · Post Post #278 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:19 pm

In post 275, Postie wrote:handing out townpoints for things that can be faked with zero problems and often are.

And you have more issue with this than him lying about the ammount of effort you're putting into the game?

Luna Fox · Post Post #280 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:38 pm

In post 279, Postie wrote:I would say I'm doing more than 90% of the playerlist right now so yes?

So you've done more than this?:

In post 264, Luna Fox wrote:Here's a breakdown of "Postie's effort":

Votes a player and asks them why they are being scumread.
Gets paranoid of me
Asks me for a scumgame and doesnt reach a conclusion (yet).
Votes you and asks you for why you're being scumread.

Her paranoia looks town, but you dont seem genuine.

If so i haven't seen it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #282 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:52 pm

In post 281, Postie wrote:Do you think you've done more than this Luna??????

Yes I do

Luna Fox · Post Post #299 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:55 pm

In post 296, beeboy wrote:Dragon of the West - Town: Post 13 made me laugh an2d I refuse to lynch him as a result for at least 2 day phases unless something stands out to me. Idc what anyone says.

You read that as town, but you read:

In post 296, beeboy wrote:Kraska - Maybe Town: 39 51 112 168 Oh look town posts.

As maybe town?

This is confusing me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #300 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:56 pm

If anything i'd think kraska deserves a larger townread than dragon based on your reasoning alone.

Luna Fox · Post Post #303 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:01 pm

In post 300, Luna Fox wrote:based on your reasoning alone.

But if it's a joke then i understand, it didnt look like a joke to me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #305 (isolation #69) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:02 pm

I do however find it very unlikely that you dont even have a read on me yet.

Luna Fox · Post Post #308 (isolation #70) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:06 pm

this site needs joke tags or something

Luna Fox · Post Post #309 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:07 pm

In post 307, beeboy wrote:You where going strong at first but then your Postie read happened. So you are null.

Uh what.

Luna Fox · Post Post #311 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:09 pm

In post 310, beeboy wrote:I was town reading you.
You started town reading Postie for bad reasons.
I am now undecided because everything else you have done is null.

They arent bad reasons pls u.u

Luna Fox · Post Post #313 (isolation #73) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:10 pm

Like you're literally the least person i expected to not have a townread on me.
I'd expect ppl that have never played with me to scumread me, since people find my playstyle lazy and scummy.

Luna Fox · Post Post #314 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:10 pm

In post 312, beeboy wrote:What's your Kraska read btw.

Maybe town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #318 (isolation #75) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:15 pm

I don't see scum making that post, that's about it.
Possible? yes, but unlikely.
Which is why i read people over multiple posts.
That didnt give me "strong" townread tho, that gave me "maybe town" the strong townread came from her reaction to my read on her.
Which was later destroyed by she saying that you could be scum pretending to be town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #323 (isolation #76) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:36 pm

In post 322, beeboy wrote:Fun fact Luna our posts consist of 50% of the game thread.

Well i AM a very active poster, and so are you, since you spread most of your thoughts into like 10000 posts

Luna Fox · Post Post #329 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:26 am

In post 328, beeboy wrote:
In post 327, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 301, beeboy wrote:I assume you are hard town reading Kraska then?
My Dragon read is a half joke I am null reading him but I will refuse to vote him most likely.
Do you refuse to vote him because there are other people that you would rather vote more because you listed 6 townish reads and no scum reads in your read list
I like keeping people alive who seem fun to play with o3o

What
You should be lynching scum.
Not keeping them alive because they're fun to play with.

Luna Fox · Post Post #331 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:16 am

You're weirding me out beeboy.

Luna Fox · Post Post #332 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:17 am

Like i want to scumread you so badly right now.
But my gut keeps screaming that you're town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #335 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:20 am

You're lately being very appeasy everytime i call you out on something.
That's mostly the nagging feeling in my mind that makes me think you're scum.
But everytime i think you're scum my gut starts stretching as if telling me im wrong.
I'm not sure why.

Luna Fox · Post Post #337 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:25 am

When i said you should have a townread on me by now, then you got a townread on me, and when i called you out on not wanting to lynch Dragon, you said that you'd lynch him if he was scummy.

Those 2 particular instances felt appeasy to me.

Tho in hindsight, if you were scum trying to get me mislynched it'd be very evil of you. So probably you not having a townread on me until then makes you a bit townier i guess?

Luna Fox · Post Post #338 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:25 am

I'm just going to trust my gut in this particular case.

Luna Fox · Post Post #347 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:53 pm

Huh i didnt even see an ongoing game reference, oh well

Luna Fox · Post Post #349 (isolation #84) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:43 pm

Why dont people read my post where i mentioned to not talk about ongoing games...

Luna Fox · Post Post #360 (isolation #85) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:14 am

In post 358, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm an reading but lurking, I need to do a full meta read of Luna before I can post and I haven't really had time. General thoughts on other things will come after that. I'll probably get to do it tonight.

If you're interested i have a very recent finished town game, it's called summer waltz: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67479

Luna Fox · Post Post #361 (isolation #86) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:17 am

In post 359, Dierfire wrote:I'll be back here in a few hours, but if someone wants to take a look at innocentvillager and help me with my read, I'd appreciate it.

From my PoV the re-assesment of the read looks more like they realized there was something wrong with their case and re-assesed it. Literally, yes, it could be scum that realized that a mislynch case wouldn't go nowhere, but it felt genuine to me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #372 (isolation #87) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:09 pm

I have a feeling this is gonna be a slow game.

Luna Fox · Post Post #375 (isolation #88) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:13 pm

Hasn't changed much

In post 204, Luna Fox wrote:There:

MURDERCAT
AlpacaAlpaca
611
Dragon of the West
randomidget
Saru

kraska77

innocentvillager

Then add Postie

Luna Fox · Post Post #377 (isolation #89) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:16 pm

I mean, when the mod hasnt posted in over 24 hours without V/LA, we havent seen a vote count in a while, and there's a player that's at over 18 hours since they should've been prodded.... yeah.

Luna Fox · Post Post #379 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 273, Luna Fox wrote:You could literally apply "To look
t
own" as a reason to discredit any sort of townread reason and that's pretty scummy.
My "Please dont break my heart..." post means you're literally destroying my townread on you.

In post 318, Luna Fox wrote:I don't see scum making that post, that's about it.
Possible? yes, but unlikely.
Which is why i read people over multiple posts.
That didnt give me "strong" townread tho, that gave me "maybe town" the strong townread came from her reaction to my read on her.
Which was later destroyed by she saying that you could be scum pretending to be town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #380 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:19 pm

Like i literally want to lynch half the playerlist right now just to see if they start posting more.

Luna Fox · Post Post #381 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:20 pm

And by more i mean more content

Luna Fox · Post Post #383 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:28 pm

In post 382, Aristophanes wrote:But like, there's little to go on and some people are too new to have a solid read on, sadly.

This is a byproduct of people not doing anything.

Luna Fox · Post Post #384 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:30 pm

In post 382, Aristophanes wrote:Who would you like gone the quickest?

It depends.
I really want to hear from more players, and at times i feel like wagoning them can force them into producing AI content.
If i went to take a stance right now on who i want dead i wouldn't be able to make a decission.
Like, the only thing semi-close to a scumread is Murdercat and even then, what he did isnt strong enough for me to warrant lynching him yet.

Luna Fox · Post Post #386 (isolation #95) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:35 pm

You dont need to sheep me for pressure, i play my way, if you want to apply pressure to a player you're free to use your vote to do so.

Luna Fox · Post Post #387 (isolation #96) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:41 pm

Actually

Vote: random

Luna Fox · Post Post #389 (isolation #97) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:43 pm

In post 388, beeboy wrote:Luna I'd like an explanation for that.

Largest ammount of votes out of the people i'm not townreading.
And mostly, coz this game needs something to happen because activity seems dead.

Luna Fox · Post Post #391 (isolation #98) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:44 pm

I find it actually quite interesting that you suddenly appear when i make a vote.
Which means you're following the thread at the very least.
P-Edit: @beeboy

Luna Fox · Post Post #392 (isolation #99) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:45 pm

In post 390, Aristophanes wrote:Cool, this is one I could feel anyway!
VOTE: Random

Luna Fox wrote:You dont need to sheep me for pressure, i play my way, if you want to apply pressure to a player you're free to use your vote to do so.
I feel like you are more grounded than I, thus my current shitty play. I'll be beer as we.go, don't worry.

I hope you aren't just sheeping me for the sake of sheeping.

Luna Fox · Post Post #394 (isolation #100) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:46 pm

And if you could feel anyway why did you make the jump only after my vote? they still had the largest ammount of votes, you could've added pressure anytime.

Luna Fox · Post Post #396 (isolation #101) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:47 pm

I could do Postie too!
I just wanted to see what Art would do.

Luna Fox · Post Post #399 (isolation #102) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:49 pm

In post 398, Aristophanes wrote:Only partially.
He has also been off all game.

From calling me out as a "serious vote" then saying he was joking to calling Random a Nerd for checking with the mods,to his vote on you, nothing has felt natural about him. It's a good spot to be, and possibly scum.

From all this why hasnt your vote been there yet.

Luna Fox · Post Post #402 (isolation #103) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:50 pm

You were willing to sheep me on whoever, but you had legit reasons to scumread random, im surprised you only decided to jump there only after I voted.

Luna Fox · Post Post #403 (isolation #104) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:51 pm

In post 343, Dwlee99 wrote:randomidget (2) - Aristophanes, Postie

Oh Yeah he was...
I had a derp lol

Luna Fox · Post Post #405 (isolation #105) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:51 pm

VOTE: Postie

Luna Fox · Post Post #406 (isolation #106) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:52 pm

I already explained that in the previous page even!

Luna Fox · Post Post #409 (isolation #107) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:53 pm

My current thoughts is that things need to happen, the mod needs to start being around to do prods and votecounts, and that i need my bed.

Luna Fox · Post Post #411 (isolation #108) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:55 pm

In post 410, beeboy wrote:Oh I remember that interaction where we spoke about your read changing.
Sorry this game is becoming a bit of a blur

Good thing i still got my head on it then.
Tho not in enough to realize that Art was already voting random.

Luna Fox · Post Post #413 (isolation #109) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:55 pm

In post 409, Luna Fox wrote:the mod needs to start being around to do prods and votecounts

Btw nothing personal with Dwlee, he's a cool guy and stuff, but i take modding as serious business.

Luna Fox · Post Post #416 (isolation #110) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:58 pm

I looked at the latest VC and there were no vote changes since then.
We've spent almost half the day phase doing literally nothing.
Scum is probably coasting, but there's too many people lurking right now to be able to hit accurately if i target there.

Luna Fox · Post Post #418 (isolation #111) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:02 pm

MURDERCAT
AlpacaAlpaca
611
Dragon of the West
Saru

These people need to start doing things.

Luna Fox · Post Post #425 (isolation #112) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:36 am

In post 423, Dwlee99 wrote:Apologies for low activity the previous weekend. I had something going on over the weekend.

Apology accepted but if possible please let us know next time.

In post 424, 611 wrote:Aristotle

Luna Fox · Post Post #427 (isolation #113) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:06 am

In post 422, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:What took IV off the list?

My whole interaction with him, read it again and you'll see the reasoning.

Luna Fox · Post Post #452 (isolation #114) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:08 am

DotW probs town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #453 (isolation #115) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:09 am

In post 431, kraska77 wrote:alpacaalpaca is my fav person this game and death to anyone who wants to lynch him

So is he a very strong townread?
Because... you know, if you're town you still need to lynch scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #463 (isolation #116) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:51 am

In post 462, Saru wrote:Yes people will try to meta me as best they can. However, that doesn't mean I actually have one. And yes, you aren't playing with that Saru, at the moment. That Saru had a lot to work with at the start of that game. This Saru doesn't. This Saru might become that other Saru depending on the eventual activity level.

I like this reply, even tho it's NAI.
Looks like Saru's gonna be a though cookie to read.

Luna Fox · Post Post #464 (isolation #117) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:52 am

Maybe i'll eventually look into my magic crystal ball that is my gut and figure it out.

Luna Fox · Post Post #488 (isolation #118) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:58 pm

beeboy pls.

Luna Fox · Post Post #489 (isolation #119) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 480, Dierfire wrote:I think that what this game needs now is more players voting.

In post 481, Postie wrote:Sure.

VOTE: Dierfire

I laughed at this more than i should've

Luna Fox · Post Post #493 (isolation #120) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:30 pm

>Luna as scum doesnt say reasons or is transparent
>Luna's reasons feel so fake

Looks more like you're making up reasons to scumread me as you go.

Luna Fox · Post Post #495 (isolation #121) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:33 pm

In post 494, beeboy wrote:I still don't feel as though scum murdercat comes out of the gates scum reading you Luna unless you are both scum o.o

I really highly doubt he would come out of the gate scumreading me IF we were both scum, in that marathon game he even was willing to sacrifice himself to make me look town.
But MC's paranoia feels fake (2 people can play that game you know)

Luna Fox · Post Post #497 (isolation #122) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:34 pm

Also i meant "nor" instead of "or" in 493

Luna Fox · Post Post #498 (isolation #123) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:35 pm

In post 496, Postie wrote:
In post 495, Luna Fox wrote:But MC's paranoia feels fake (2 people can play that game you know)
Why though

As soon as i was townreading you for your paranoia, he immediately tries to buddy up to you abusing your paranoia in order to get you to vote me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #501 (isolation #124) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:37 pm

Of course it's perfectly hard for me to picture those 2 as Scum on Scum interactions while not impossible, hence my independent scumread on both of you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #507 (isolation #125) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:38 pm

In post 503, Postie wrote:
In post 498, Luna Fox wrote:As soon as i was townreading you for your paranoia, he immediately tries to buddy up to you abusing your paranoia in order to get you to vote me.
Why's that scummy? Sorry I can't think very well right now.

Because scum players need to convince town players to lynch town players.

Luna Fox · Post Post #508 (isolation #126) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:38 pm

In post 506, Postie wrote:
In post 501, Luna Fox wrote:Of course it's perfectly hard for me to picture those 2 as Scum on Scum interactions while not impossible, hence my independent scumread on both of you.
Why am I scum again?

Because of your whole townread discredit.

Luna Fox · Post Post #510 (isolation #127) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:41 pm

In post 509, beeboy wrote:This game has too little power players for this to be relevant in all honesty.

It's actually the opposite, little power players mean easier to convince people.

Luna Fox · Post Post #515 (isolation #128) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 512, Postie wrote:This assumes I'm town.
You're scumreading me.

v

In post 501, Luna Fox wrote:Of course it's perfectly hard for me to picture those 2 as Scum on Scum interactions while not impossible, hence my independent scumread on both of you.

Luna Fox · Post Post #518 (isolation #129) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:44 pm

I'm being perfectly clear with my thought process, i don't get what you don't understand about it, but it's not like i wouldnt expect for scum to pick on a weak point to attack while ignoring the evidence that has been provided.

P-Edit: ok

Luna Fox · Post Post #521 (isolation #130) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:47 pm

In post 514, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 510, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 509, beeboy wrote:This game has too little power players for this to be relevant in all honesty.
It's actually the opposite, little power players mean easier to convince people.
Do you mean too few? Because I don't think there are any miniature power players here...

Yeah, english is hard. (not really)

Luna Fox · Post Post #522 (isolation #131) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:48 pm

In post 519, Postie wrote:
In post 518, Luna Fox wrote:but it's not like i wouldnt expect for scum to pick on a weak point to attack while ignoring the evidence that has been provided.
What

This means, you're ignoring my posts, others havent, you picked on a weak point to attack because you didnt read my posts. You aren't paying attention to what your scumread is actually posting and just hoping to jump on the first thing you can attack.

Luna Fox · Post Post #525 (isolation #132) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 523, MURDERCAT wrote:All I know Luna is that this feel s more like marathon scum Luna that marathon town Luna. I realize I need to meta you, but I'm rolling with that for now.

All I know is that everytime someone in any game tries to bring up marathon meta they say "lol @ marathon meta"
I do have a very recently completed town game by the name of Summer Waltz, and still my only completed non marathon scum game is that Marquis mini.

Luna Fox · Post Post #527 (isolation #133) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 pm

In post 524, beeboy wrote:
In post 510, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 509, beeboy wrote:This game has too little power players for this to be relevant in all honesty.
It's actually the opposite, little power players mean easier to convince people.
So let's say murdercat considers you a power player why would he try and lynch you on day 1 when as scum would have a factional night kill and can go for a much lower risk push? Like I am not following this logic at all.

I dont know how scum operates in who they want to ML.
Can you really deny the possibility? I mean i havent been Mislynched in any town games ever unless you count suiciding as being mislynched so... who knows.
Either way im never worried about scum pushing me.

Luna Fox · Post Post #528 (isolation #134) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:54 pm

In post 526, Postie wrote:
In post 522, Luna Fox wrote:This means, you're ignoring my posts, others havent, you picked on a weak point to attack because you didnt read my posts.
What if I'm just misunderstanding them though because that seems to be what's happening

In post 522, Luna Fox wrote:You aren't paying attention to what your scumread is actually posting and just hoping to jump on the first thing you can attack.
Who said anything about scumreading you?

You did.
Unless you dont vote only scumreads.

Luna Fox · Post Post #533 (isolation #135) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:57 pm

In post 531, Postie wrote:No what you said there suggests you thought I had a scumread on you before the vote. That's an incorrect assumption.

It is not incorrect to think that i saw your vote on me as an attack because you have a scumread on me? Am I missing something?

Luna Fox · Post Post #536 (isolation #136) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:58 pm

I meant "it is not correct" i originally meant to type "is it incorrect" but eh XD

Luna Fox · Post Post #537 (isolation #137) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:59 pm

In post 534, MURDERCAT wrote:Postie is pretty much def town for this by the way.

If anything that makes her more scum because right after that came her vote, which means she scumreads me without reading my posts.

Luna Fox · Post Post #539 (isolation #138) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 538, Postie wrote:
In post 533, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 531, Postie wrote:No what you said there suggests you thought I had a scumread on you before the vote. That's an incorrect assumption.
It is not incorrect to think that i saw your vote on me as an attack because you have a scumread on me? Am I missing something?
Yes, you're missing the fact I never scumread you up until the point where I voted you and even then I lost that scumread again like a minute later.

Well that is certainly a possibility.
But if you voted me why werent you paying attention to what i was actually saying if you're town, to make sure you're not missing anything instead of impulsively jumping onto it?

Luna Fox · Post Post #542 (isolation #139) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 540, MURDERCAT wrote:I think scum is unlikely to use a "you know I'm town argument" to push someone.

I've seen it before.
If a townie makes a mistake in judgement scum can use it to attack.
Those are weak points scum are actively looking for to achieve mislynches.
Except this time the weak point wasnt actually one because there was previous evidence to back up my thought process.

Luna Fox · Post Post #544 (isolation #140) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:04 pm

Assume i actually did the mistake of scumreading postie while assuming she was town on her interactions with you and im town and she's scum, what do you think scum would just let it slide? No.

Luna Fox · Post Post #549 (isolation #141) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:06 pm

Unvote

I'll give you more time.
Just because thre's like 192391921 people right now doing nothing and that have at best, the same chance as you of being scum.

Luna Fox · Post Post #550 (isolation #142) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:07 pm

In post 548, MURDERCAT wrote:I think scum is significantly more likely to miss that, is my point.

Eh i disagree.
But that's about as much as i can give you, doesnt look like your intent is to discredit my scumread on Postie anyway, and im already less convinced that you're scum as of right now unless you're scum with Postie which is an impossibility.

Luna Fox · Post Post #553 (isolation #143) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:10 pm

In post 551, beeboy wrote:Who do you guys want to wagon I am getting bored of voting Postie she can be dealt with later.

If anything i'd prefer to not vote anyone unless im scumreading them, or im PoEing, a bird eye view is the best spot for me to generate unbiased reads because when i engage with my scumreads my reads start getting muddled.

Luna Fox · Post Post #556 (isolation #144) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 552, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 544, Luna Fox wrote:Assume i actually did the mistake of scumreading postie while assuming she was town on her interactions with you and im town and she's scum, what do you think scum would just let it slide? No.
This is one of the most convoluted sentences I've read recently.

You're saying Postie, as scum, wouldn't let you off if you had accidently crossed your read,correct?

What is convoluted about it? As I said is not incorrect of me to think that scum postie would use that to attack a townie's midjudgement in order to drive a mislynch?

Well either way, this is why i dont tend to scumhunt much.

Luna Fox · Post Post #563 (isolation #145) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:16 pm

Well, English isnt my first language, im doing the best i can >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #574 (isolation #146) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:22 pm

In post 572, Aristophanes wrote:Because I just don't expect it from scum. I feel I have more riding on games as scum because I have a duty to my scum team.

I forget im in games when im scum more often than not, because i literally hate rolling scum.
It's player dependant mostly.

Luna Fox · Post Post #578 (isolation #147) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:24 pm

Besides as postie said, he could be scum lurking, just forgot to post on time to avoid the prod.
We can really verify whether he's lying or telling the truth avoid forgetting being in the game, so it's NAI.

Luna Fox · Post Post #579 (isolation #148) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:24 pm

can > can't

Luna Fox · Post Post #581 (isolation #149) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:25 pm

avoid > about.

Jeesh i cant type, i should have just done an EBWODP.

Luna Fox · Post Post #583 (isolation #150) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:27 pm

Don't worry that's why I'm here. ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #586 (isolation #151) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:29 pm

Explaining things is one of the things i love doing the most tbh. Too bad my most OP form of reads is... gut.

Luna Fox · Post Post #610 (isolation #152) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 609, Dragon of the West wrote:This VC is wrong. I totally had my vote on Saru

Well im both voting postie and not voting, so it's definitely wrong.

Luna Fox · Post Post #618 (isolation #153) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:35 pm

I kinda feel like quoting that "I am opinionated about modding" thread now XD
just kidding

Luna Fox · Post Post #620 (isolation #154) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:21 pm

10 pages in 2 days is pretty slow considering.

Also it's 250 posts! it's not that many!

Luna Fox · Post Post #639 (isolation #155) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:58 am

In post 621, Saru wrote:Alpaca - Not enough content either.
Most of the content that is posted seems to be mostly IIoA
. His town reads in 441 give me a severe case of indigestion. More reasoning and more reads please.

Why is this maybe town then? You seem to point out negative/scummy things but nothing towny, unless his townreads giving you indigestion is towny?

Luna Fox · Post Post #641 (isolation #156) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:02 am

Oh... right forgot that the default now is maf black, im used to the old one and the color used for "Null" is very hard to see:

So i missed it.

Luna Fox · Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:07 pm

Umm dwlee?, i think these numbers dont match... it's just a gut feeling:

In post 628, Dwlee99 wrote:611 (3) - Postie, MURDERCAT, kraska77, Saru

Luna Fox · Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:08 pm

Vote: 611

L-2
You get in here, or you get in here.

Luna Fox · Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:40 pm

In post 653, beeboy wrote:Wait wtf am I doing.
UNVOTE:

Surprisingly you didnt notice i posted L-2?

Luna Fox · Post Post #662 (isolation #160) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:03 pm

In post 659, beeboy wrote:Best mod error 2k15

dont you mean 2k16

Luna Fox · Post Post #678 (isolation #161) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:19 am

In post 676, 611 wrote:and leave y'all hanging for a little longer.

Sorry im inpatient

Double Vote: 611

Luna Fox · Post Post #680 (isolation #162) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:25 am

I guess Rxn Testing with you isnt gonna be as easy as i expected...

Luna Fox · Post Post #685 (isolation #163) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:33 am

No it's obvious he saw through it.
I'm not good at faking things anyway >.<

Luna Fox · Post Post #698 (isolation #164) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:39 am

In post 689, MURDERCAT wrote:That post said pretty much nothing. Who is scum? Give me a name, 1 name, of the person you think is most likely to be scum right now.

Did you just skip over his read of you?

Also V/LA = Vacation / Limited Access (i.e. either wont be able to post, or their posting will be less frequent due to real life stuff)

Luna Fox · Post Post #699 (isolation #165) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:41 am

Really the thing bugging me is that he seems to be the only player that agrees with me on Murdercat being possibly scum, and that his read on me is just "Well you guys already said it!" or something.

Luna Fox · Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:10 am

If i thought his reads list were town i'd have unvoted.
I have not.

Luna Fox · Post Post #716 (isolation #167) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:17 pm

That feels NAI to me.
P-Edit @Postie

Luna Fox · Post Post #721 (isolation #168) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:24 pm

In post 715, Dierfire wrote:although I've a question for Luna Fox

?

Luna Fox · Post Post #735 (isolation #169) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:13 am

Being relaxed is NAI, is more of a matter of experience.

Luna Fox · Post Post #741 (isolation #170) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:36 pm

Unvote

You're right, im gonna move my vote somewhere, but for a completely different reason, it being that the fact that everyone's lurking the day out with 611 being the top lynch candidate means that currently scum is very comfortable with this lynch, it's giving me bad feelings

Luna Fox · Post Post #743 (isolation #171) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:50 pm

In post 742, MURDERCAT wrote:Or it's on scum and they are waiting for town to get cold feet...

Don't you think scum would be more likely to build a counterwagon?

Luna Fox · Post Post #746 (isolation #172) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:01 pm

I do admit the wall is not town.
I just have a bad feeling...
Like this is going too smoothly idk...

Luna Fox · Post Post #748 (isolation #173) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:02 pm

In post 747, MURDERCAT wrote:Aren't you scum reading postie Luna?

Well technically the proper term is "not townreading"

Luna Fox · Post Post #749 (isolation #174) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:03 pm

But yes, if you want to know the people who i actually have on the scumside of my reads are 611, you and Postie.

Luna Fox · Post Post #751 (isolation #175) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:04 pm

But... like... im getting chilly vibes about how everyone's just fine with the current gamestate... which means scum is also fine with it.
Whatever this may mean whether scum is sacrificing a buddy or we're wrong and we're hitting town.

Luna Fox · Post Post #752 (isolation #176) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:05 pm

In post 750, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 738, Postie wrote:randomidget is basically active lurking so can we get anyone who isn't on 611 on him? Ty.
So what do you make of this?

That's one of the reasons i didnt vote randomidget.
I unvoted 611 due to my previously expressed concerns.

Luna Fox · Post Post #761 (isolation #177) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:11 pm

In post 755, beeboy wrote:On one hand I don't understand a lot of the reasons 611 is scum read but on the other hand I feel as though this lynch would have happened by now if it was wrong.

Not really, scum's probably sitting it out since at deadline there will be little choice for us.
Like, i just keep coming back to "Why is it that no one's even doing anything to derail this (other than Postie)"
I guess what Murdercat says is kinda true that Postie may be the scum derailing it, but then the interactions at the start of Murdercat > Postie make no sense to me =/

Luna Fox · Post Post #763 (isolation #178) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:12 pm

Hmm maybe im overthinking it... or rather now i think murdercat's busing 611 so im just gonna help him do that.

Vote: 611

Luna Fox · Post Post #765 (isolation #179) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:16 pm

757 looked like posturing for a scum flip.

Luna Fox · Post Post #767 (isolation #180) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:18 pm

My worries are well funded, it looks to me that you know he's gonna flip scum and you're trying to get 2 mislynches to make up for it.
As they say, busing your partner is entirely worth it if you get 2 mislynches out of it.

Luna Fox · Post Post #768 (isolation #181) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:19 pm

In post 766, MURDERCAT wrote:Why anyone has a strong town read on Luna just because she is chatty and active is seriously beyond me.

Because im literally unmislynchable as town ^_^

Luna Fox · Post Post #773 (isolation #182) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:23 pm

In post 769, MURDERCAT wrote:You think I don't know that? Why do you think I'm pushing you as scum then?

About that i have literally no idea.

In post 771, Aristophanes wrote:Is this L-1?

I thought he was at L-2 before i unvoted?

Luna Fox · Post Post #822 (isolation #183) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:41 am

In post 821, beeboy wrote:Oh god hammer pls

Luna Fox · Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:47 pm

Mod forgot to say i was V/LA but i also have some free time rn so im going to contribute.

1) There's no way there's both SK and Vig, but this has already been covered.
2) If Art is scum fake claiming Vig, vig shouldnt CC unless they are getting lynched, Vig can simply shoot Art during the night, we dont need to lynch Art.
3) If Art is town vig, i dont need to say why it's a bad idea to lynch him.
4) If Art is SK, then scum likely is going to want to kill him during the night, same if he's town vig.

So why do we need to lynch Art again?

Luna Fox · Post Post #897 (isolation #185) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 896, Saru wrote:The thing is, there is probably no vig in the game even if Art is scum. It could be Art scum and then an SK out there somewhere. Obviously the SK will never CC.

In this case Art is dead due to SK killing potential threat (Town Vig)

In post 896, Saru wrote:The reason I think Art is most likely scum is because of the way 611 and Kraska chose to read him. They were both very careful with him. I don't think this was coincidence. Also, read this: 762. MURDER most likely hit the nail on the head there. Art's response to him was weak as fuck. Basically, it was a non-response. The associatives between the three are way too much.

Cool story, but Art isnt getting lynched today, even if you think he's scum, he's most likely dead tonight.

In post 896, Saru wrote:Also, vig is THE ONLY THING that makes sense for scum to claim here. Both partners are dead and the scum was at L-2. They need to make a gambit here. They have no other choice.

Disagree, scum claiming vig here is suicide with 2 partners dead and the most likely organization being 3 scum, means he's probably last scum, if SK exist then it's more likely all scum are dead and if Art is not dead tonight then we can re-evaluate later or Art can kill another scum tonight, regardless Art is not living to LyLo, but there's no reason to kill someone claiming to have shot scum because if he's telling the truth, scum want him dead.

In post 896, Saru wrote:Again, I don't understand what's wrong if Art is vig. How is that a major loss to town? If anything, it confirms that there is only 1 scum left and no SK. Then the hunt for that last scum begins. Heck, wouldn't it be dumb for me as the last scum to even suggest this scenario, because then I'd be setting up my own lynch on D3 just by saying that.

A big loss getting rid of another town oriented method of killing scum.

In post 896, Saru wrote:If Aristo flips vig, go ahead and lynch me D3. I don't care. I'm willing to take one for the team. If I'm scum, yay, you guys win D3. Congrats. I just don't think him being vig is very likely here given the evidence.

Nah i rather lynch you today
VOTE: Saru

Luna Fox · Post Post #898 (isolation #186) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:11 pm

And with that my free time is gone.

Luna Fox · Post Post #956 (isolation #187) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:58 am

Sorry havent had time to read anything in this game, did i miss anything important?

Luna Fox · Post Post #957 (isolation #188) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:58 am

In post 950, Aristophanes wrote:All protective should be on you.

Ok i guess i did miss something important...

Luna Fox · Post Post #959 (isolation #189) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:00 am

In post 904, Saru wrote:I'm a town follower. Basically, I can follow a player at night and see what action that player performed(i.e. protecting, killing, etc.) but not WHO they did it to. I followed Art last night because I was scum reading him, and I got a result back of him performing a "killing" action.

Well at least your reasoning for thinking Ari scum is founded in this.
However aru claimed vig before you claimed your result of killing, your result of killing makes sense with a vig action, if it had happened in the reverse order i'd be thinking differently.
UNVOTE:

Luna Fox · Post Post #960 (isolation #190) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:01 am

In post 958, Postie wrote:Also IV is probably scum.

I had a townread on him D1, explain?

Luna Fox · Post Post #961 (isolation #191) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:02 am

Actually it'd probably be faster to ISO IV.

Luna Fox · Post Post #962 (isolation #192) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:03 am

In post 926, innocentvillager wrote:@Ari, why aren't you telling us what X-shot you are? That way, if you kill more than X times, town would obviously know. It might be inferior play to tell us, but an explanation of why not saying which X would be nice.

wtf

Luna Fox · Post Post #963 (isolation #193) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:06 am

Claiming X-Shot is a common way of WIFOMing scum into deciding whether they should shoot him or not. That is pro-town play.

Luna Fox · Post Post #965 (isolation #194) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:10 am

In post 964, Postie wrote:
In post 960, Luna Fox wrote:I had a townread on him D1, explain?
Post 924 makes zero sense from a town POV because it's pretty obvious Ari is telling the truth and no one was questioning his claim except Saru. Meaning there was no reason for him to write such a huge ass in-depth wallpost about the whole thing. It's literally words for the sake of words.

Uhh, but didnt i do the same thing as a way to explain to Saru why he shouldn't be lynched?
Unless your point is that he expressed it in a more general way (although he could've quoted my points i guess?)

Luna Fox · Post Post #966 (isolation #195) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:11 am

I guess if anything i see him being accused of parroting than anything else.

Luna Fox · Post Post #967 (isolation #196) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:11 am

Or is it because he did a wall-post...
(Sorry trying to see what you mean, and i have little time >.<)

Luna Fox · Post Post #969 (isolation #197) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:18 am

VOTE: IV
Well i dont have much time anyway, ugh being busy IRL sux when im in a crapton of games...

Luna Fox · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:25 am

Unvote

My current main gripe is that if we have both a town tracker and a town follower that's... pretty much 2 clears on a killing night.

Luna Fox · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:26 am

And then we have the miller claim, but that could be red herring.