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What?In post 541, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Congrats, that's one I have not heard before. Mind explaining? I know there is some underlying reasons for you saying such and if there isn't, you are Scum.In post 539, MariaR wrote:I'm fairly sure one of RB/Infinity is scum and the other is town due to interactions even though I scumread both.
Who are you I have reasons as I said mostly due to interaction and I dislike a lot of there posts but even if I didn't have that many reasons gut reads are a thing in this game and you'll get a lot of votes wrong for it.-
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Does this logic go with poe reads to then cause you're just being unrealisticIn post 549, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Read my Wiki on gut reads. Unless you are the type of person who has such good reads that people just assume you are right you need at least SOME backing for your reads. It doesn't need to be a 4000 character post, but it does have to have punch. I have said this elsewhere: If you are just giving gut reads, then that allows Scum to pretty much just do the same thing. The game would essentially become a game where all that was done was voting, which is not Mafia.In post 544, MariaR wrote:
What?In post 541, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Congrats, that's one I have not heard before. Mind explaining? I know there is some underlying reasons for you saying such and if there isn't, you are Scum.In post 539, MariaR wrote:I'm fairly sure one of RB/Infinity is scum and the other is town due to interactions even though I scumread both.
Who are you I have reasons as I said mostly due to interaction and I dislike a lot of there posts but even if I didn't have that many reasons gut reads are a thing in this game and you'll get a lot of votes wrong for it.-
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I don't think you understand that even if you find gut reads scummy it's a normal human thing to have gut feelings about something not just mafia.In post 551, LicketyQuickety wrote:
The ONLY other way people can just use gut reads is if that is all they do and they are known for that. That makes a really hard way to start playing mafia IMO.In post 550, MariaR wrote:
Does this logic go with poe reads to then cause you're just being unrealisticIn post 549, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Read my Wiki on gut reads. Unless you are the type of person who has such good reads that people just assume you are right you need at least SOME backing for your reads. It doesn't need to be a 4000 character post, but it does have to have punch. I have said this elsewhere: If you are just giving gut reads, then that allows Scum to pretty much just do the same thing. The game would essentially become a game where all that was done was voting, which is not Mafia.In post 544, MariaR wrote:
What?In post 541, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Congrats, that's one I have not heard before. Mind explaining? I know there is some underlying reasons for you saying such and if there isn't, you are Scum.In post 539, MariaR wrote:I'm fairly sure one of RB/Infinity is scum and the other is town due to interactions even though I scumread both.
Who are you I have reasons as I said mostly due to interaction and I dislike a lot of there posts but even if I didn't have that many reasons gut reads are a thing in this game and you'll get a lot of votes wrong for it.-
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I don't see any problem with that.In post 556, rb wrote:Oh nice, Slandaar doesn't agree with LQ's conclusion that I'm scum, but he disagrees with kraska's townread at the same time.
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It's not your interactions that make you guys scum I just scumread both of you but reading interactions between the 2 of you I think only 1 of you are scum if you would like me to explain why are scum read the 2 of you I can do that.In post 564, rb wrote:Hey MariaR can you explain the one scum between RB/Infinity thing because I'm town and I'm struggling to see Infinity scum after our interactions.-
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Where did I ever say impossible. When I read the interactions I'm pretty sure it's unlikely for you guys to be partners of course that could be false but that can also be true for any pair read.In post 567, rb wrote:
I don't really care why you scumread me but I want to know why you think we're an impossible pair?In post 565, MariaR wrote:
It's not your interactions that make you guys scum I just scumread both of you but reading interactions between the 2 of you I think only 1 of you are scum if you would like me to explain why are scum read the 2 of you I can do that.In post 564, rb wrote:Hey MariaR can you explain the one scum between RB/Infinity thing because I'm town and I'm struggling to see Infinity scum after our interactions.
I'm just saying If one of you flips scum i'm prob not lynching the other person.-
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In post 200, Infinity 324 wrote:You can't scumread people for weak reasoning 8 pages into the game...In post 201, rb wrote:Why not?In post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.In post 210, rb wrote:
VOTE: InfinityIn post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.
Just nope.In post 217, Infinity 324 wrote:In post 210, rb wrote:
VOTE: InfinityIn post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.
Just nope.
This whole convo seems really natural and doesn't seem planned or forced from either side. Also
VOTE: LQ I can't tell if you're just being close minded or you honestly think like that but re reading you're ISO you should have more votes then you do.
I'm not using it to make excuses, so how is that scummy?
My reasoning is, well, reasonable for this early on d1, and IPS called it out as scumy. Same with vibes.
Vote me for my reasoning if you think it's bad, not for my idea about the game.In post 218, rb wrote:I'll vote you for whatever reason I want. You're not my dad!In post 219, rb wrote:But in all honesty I think it's just scummy to discredit the value of early game in general. It's actually a vital part of the game and very useful to re-read because the interactions there, the scum haven't had time to adapt to what suits the particular town they're playing with. Late game scum interactions are really hard to re-read because they're all wifom. It's scumgame to devalue early game.In post 220, Infinity 324 wrote:Early game is a lot more valuable looking back imo
By definition, later game you'll have more information since you can also look back at the early game.
If you think you can make strong cases against people on page 8, I strongly disagree.In post 222, Infinity 324 wrote:That's...true, but that doesn't mean you can make very strong arguments for scum on page 8...
The fact that you think this theory discussion is AI is questionable...In post 223, rb wrote:
Tbh I explained what I thought was AI:In post 222, Infinity 324 wrote:That's...true, but that doesn't mean you can make very strong arguments for scum on page 8...
The fact that you think this theory discussion is AI is questionable...
^ that's why I'm scumreading you right now.rb wrote:I've seen people say "oh Day 1 interactions don't mean that much" exactly 8 times. 7/8 times the person saying or implying it was scum.
I never said this theory discussion right now is necessarily AI. But the way you're throwing shade at me as if that's what I said is questionable...In post 224, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah but you have to look at context. There isn't a particular scum motivation to saying what I said there, because I'm trying to scumhunt just as hard as if I didn't say that.
The scum you're talking about there, I assume, tried to use their statement to make excuses or ignore valid evidence. That's certainly not what I'm doing here. I'm using it to argue against IPS's reasoning which doesn't really make sense.
And of course, expression suspicion is questionable...-
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I messed up quoting and put my vote in one of the quotes so let me cp it here and ignore it in the quote thing
This whole convo seems really natural and doesn't seem planned or forced from either side. Also
VOTE: Lickly I can't tell if you're just being close minded or you honestly think like that but re reading you're ISO you should have more votes then you do.-
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Correct.In post 574, rb wrote:
Okay so you think the convo is really natural but you think one of us is surely scum because you scumread both of us separately, ignoring that interaction, right?In post 572, MariaR wrote:I messed up quoting and put my vote in one of the quotes so let me cp it here and ignore it in the quote thing
This whole convo seems really natural and doesn't seem planned or forced from either side. Also
VOTE: Lickly I can't tell if you're just being close minded or you honestly think like that but re reading you're ISO you should have more votes then you do.-
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Because when I re read I'm gonna try and look at all of Rem's post and be bias and think they're towny when some of them could be scummy but I'm always gonna look at it from a town pov I wish I could of just re read and come back to give myself an answer so I could help explain the thought process around the posts.In post 593, Manuel87 wrote:
Can you explain why you said that please?In post 537, MariaR wrote:Kinda wish I didn't see who I replaced but oh well.-
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I don't know if you want to call that a townslip or not it was just me making a statement if you want to take it as a town slip power to you!In post 610, Manuel87 wrote:
OK so it was an intended townslip you would say?In post 598, MariaR wrote:
Because when I re read I'm gonna try and look at all of Rem's post and be bias and think they're towny when some of them could be scummy but I'm always gonna look at it from a town pov I wish I could of just re read and come back to give myself an answer so I could help explain the thought process around the posts.In post 593, Manuel87 wrote:
Can you explain why you said that please?In post 537, MariaR wrote:Kinda wish I didn't see who I replaced but oh well.
Because thats how it lokked to me when i though about it yesterday and it kept bothering me thats why i asked if i understood it correct.
@Naomi: Can you stop answering questions directed at other persons please?
If you direct a question at someone there is a good chance you intend to get something out of it from that specific person not from someone else.-
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I thought we had something special </3In post 708, rb wrote:I think MariaR vote is even better.-
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UNVOTE: I should be backish for now! anyway from what I see nothing really huge has happened or made me want to change my reads (that I have set to answer so let me do that in the next post) I think I may take back my sr on RB but I will quote what made me sr him in the first place
If I had to say who scum is sr I'd say Licky/Infinity/ ???-
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In post 90, Infinity 324 wrote:Oooh lots of stuff.
Rask is gut town for now. Same with DGB
I feel like aristo could be scum, I think scum could come up with that naomi read explanation if pressured on it. I feel like it was slightly overdone for how weak the townread was.
Naomi was bleh and I don't like how she asked rem to unvote. She could be a nervous town though
Also manuel throwing shade and not adding anything useful is bleh. Though it could be town paranoia.
rem could be scum for the townslip right after the discussion about faking townslips, though that would be pretty bold...so still null..
Aristo what do you think about manuel?
VOTE: naomi
It will be interesting to try to pressure-read naomi given her personality
I think the 2 things up above were very stupid I think he knew Naomi was town telling and a lynch wasn't happening so tried to backtrack out of the vote sus to me!~In post 97, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm I actually think naomi is town. I wouldn't expect scum in her position to be this transparent, I would expect them to AtE their way into hiding their motivations.
Back to this.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: manuel
Reads manuel?What meaning do you have to post this it's just saying...oh I have a town read...and that's it ;-; It feels like you're trying to do something when you're not doing much at all
Are you kidding me? you have 200+ posts that's enough to form SOME type of reads why are you trying to give yourself so many escape routesIn post 202, Infinity 324 wrote:Because all reasoning at this point is going to be weak, since there isn't much to go on.What's the problem with that I'd say that's null or even towny depends on if you think someone being stubborn is a town tell or a scum tell
On a final note I'm not gonna quote them because they're hella long but when Infinity did 2 giant quote walls he was mostly just saying 'hmm okay' or "I get it I understand" not really adding anything to the topic at hand I think he wants to look like he's doing something when he's not doing very much at all.-
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VOTE: RB Take that back.In post 785, rb wrote:That's such a scummy post-
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Less on slaander and RB but yes.In post 790, Raskolnikov wrote:MariaR you're scumreading all of LQ, infinity, slandaar, rb and me??-
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I'm a sub in myself if you asked me for a sum I couldn't tell you all I know is Infinity/ RB slot had a really big fight Namoi and Slannder want to lynch each other and KTS is being KTSIn post 995, Fire Assassin wrote:Ill probably go through everything that I have missed, but MariaR want to give me a quick summary of events?
I see RB was raging a bit, but nothing else.-
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This is me sorryIn post 1008, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I feel bad cause I feel like I should be trying harder and I'm being more of a nuisance then I am helping honestly-
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I don't know how i'm being LAMIST and what do you mean relook at infinity I have a sr on him and he hasn't done anything to make me want to change it honestly very simple
Also can you all stop "light town reading me" or "Scum reading me" because of Rem I would like to be judged on MY content not Rem's-
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That's not why i'm self voting it's that I know my style of play and my heart's not in this but I want to do well and I don't really think I'm doing that I feel like I'm an easy push so I would rather get myself out of the way while we have a mlIn post 1030, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh come on...at least try to play the game...-
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Will the 5 reads I'm strong on was Naomi being town for having no filter with there posting style because I feel like scum would think about what they would but she seems to just post away it seems extremely genuine
I think I also TR the RB slot because of all the anger and that having random thoughts/reads is normal because if you're upset you can't really think as clearly as you would normally do I scumread him early on cause he kept on trying to pull these noob towntells but that could just be how he plays
I also had a sr on Infinity for reasons I already stated I think Slannder could be optimistic scum because he had a sr on me for not outting my reads well when I said I was going to say why I sr people later and whenever I see reads from him there's always an escape route for some IE (I don't know or this read is weak though)
I want to also SR ras cause I disliked a lot of there early posts but I doubt myself on that.-
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srsly can my kindle stop auto switching my account on meIn post 1086, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Slight intent to hammer
just a bit but a bit more info would be nice-
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I stand by my logic that a pr of that strong standard should of claimed at L-2 let alone L-1 and trolling I am sure this will flip scum he has no reason to do so otherwise.In post 1162, Infinity 324 wrote:You hammered a potential town power role, you at least should've given it some time...-
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