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VOTE: Raskolnikov

Because last time I played with you I swore blind you weren't scum and I'm not getting caught out like that again

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Erm, why are people RVS wagonning?

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UNVOTE: no way should we be at L-2 in RVS

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UNVOTE: no way should we be at L-2 in RVS

Yeah, why? Don't think we were in some kind of dangerous territory with being L-2. It helped in moving the game forward, where unvoting doesn't really do that right now.

I would agree if I there wasn't a tendency in the general population for making stupid decisions such as RVS lynching. It can and does happen

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Three people have said think of it as an RVS lynch and this concerns me.

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Three people have said think of it as an RVS lynch and this concerns me.

well
go on

Ugh I just hate when people dive into lynches really, it reduces your chance of hitting scum. People have told me I'm too cautious at mafia though so....

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I don't see why people are scum reading Maria either? An explanation would not go amiss

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@light_ganski your posting feels a little fluffy. Mind expressing some more thoughts on the game state?

Sure thing.

Townteam is ecane and maria. Gammaemerald looks okay too. First few pages were mostly shitposting, but psych and jake from state farm didn't come too well out of it IMO, people wanting to RVS lynch piss me off. IGMEOU raskolnikov, you've played with me before and you know how easy a lynch I am.

VOTE: jake from state farm for now

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Currently townhunting among everyone else

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Yoshi's pretty fluffy as well but looks null overall. Had a second look at maria, not as townie as I thought but still on the town side of the board IMO

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Nvm this feels better and deserves some pressure VOTE: Gerryoat looks like you've siad nothing game relevant yet I'd like to see that change

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I actually think I hate this game so many people are null or shitposting

PEdit: The whole "game died before it's got started" thing annoyed me, quite a few pointless posts and I hate anyone who wants to RVS lynch automatically

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EBWOP: This game actually does feel dead though so I can't blame Jake for saying that really

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Lol I meant I automatcally hate them not they were doing it automatically

Its just the sort of thing that makes everyone's ISOs look cloudy and makes it harder to pick out the seriously scum motivated stuff

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Just decided to start with you since your posts seems the most irrelevant of all so far. Game relevant posts from everyone else who's shitposted would of course also be appreciated

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can you go into ecane?
you said you didnt understand the votes for maria so im wondering how you townread her for it

The vote looks like misguided town, 140 through 144 look super TvT to me and are a reason I am town reading Maria as well. Not sure that scum would be ballsy enough to vote 3 different people in their first 6 posts either. Do you think there's scum motivation there Rask?

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a fan of the townhunting approach though

My town hunting approach really isn't perfect, case in point last time I played with you you were my strongest townread and now I'm getting myself tied up in knots because you look pretty townie, but I though the same of you last time we played together and I was so wrong then, I feel like my gut is wrong now too ugh

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after considered analysis i have determined that there is no content on the first page of this thread that is in any way alignment indicative

No shit sherlock

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VOTE: Psyche

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ugh actually UNVOTE: this is probably shitposting town

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VOTE: gerryoat

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@ganski - What are your thoughts on yoshi and gear?

Gear hasn't said an awful lot really, though I'd like to know why he was interested in mine and Rask's history. Town side of null, not much else to say yet really.

As for yoshi, I didn't notice until I ISO'd him but I'd like him to elaborate on 154, why he thinks Maria looks scummy. As I've said Ive got a reasonable townread on Maria so I'd like to know what he sees as scummy in her. 171, 231 and 232 seem to be him complaining about how it's difficult to read people this early on, and whilst I understand that sentiment he must of picked up on something worth commenting on further than 'that could've come from scum Maria'. He's asked a couple of okay questions after that but overall, a weak scumread, but would need to see more to solidify that.

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@ecane - what are you thoughts on psyche? Shitposter or scum? And have you got any thoughts on Yoshi?

@everyone - what are people thinking about Rask? Because I'm reasonably sure she's town but I'm still caught up over the last game I played with her and I feel like I'm missing something here

I'm getting a scumread on someone, not sure if I feel comfortable revealing yet. Are you comfortable enough to share? Perhaps if it's the same person I'll feel more comfortable sharing.

Why not sharing?

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EBWOP - @Maria why are you townreading Yoshi?

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Now that gear has done more recently could you expand a little there?

Gear's posts still feel really flat to me, and I struggled to get my head round 298 - when he's made detailed posts they seem a little obfuscating. Slight scum read for now.

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Gear's posts still feel really flat to me, and I struggled to get my head round 298 - when he's made detailed posts they seem a little obfuscating. Slight scum read for now.

So you are scumreading all of yoshi, gear, and gerry? Since you're voting gerry, I assume that is your strongest read, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, though my scum read on yoshi is strengthening.

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Sorry I haven't posted lately, had some stuff on my mind again

Pretty sure that Rask, Maria and Jaack are town. I think I was right in calling psyche as a shitposter rather than as scum as well. Was townreading ecane, but would obviously like to see her replacement before putting that slot back into townblock. Jake's recent content has been more meaningful and I'm townreading him for it.

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Yep, I targeted rask last night. I'm a tracker, and my result was that she did nothing. I wanted to check her out because it would have been good to definitively clear a townread and I've been fooled by rask before.

By the way, why the hell did you guys lynch jake whilst I was asleep?

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Presumably there was a ninja (yes there are ninjas on mafiascum). It would make a little sense with two investigative roles for scum to have something that would get around them.

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From looking at light_ganski's ISO, it looks like ecane and Gamma Emerald are scum-aligned with her from the read list, and how light_ganski is hesitant to read ecane as town-aligned... There is little interaction with Gamma Emerald, and interaction with ecane is suspicious.

Also, it shows BigYoshiFan and probably Psyche as more town-aligned, the way she is pushing them can't be a bus.

Yeah, Gamma Emerald was basically pointless yesterday and as a result I ended up overlooking him, it was an error. As for ecane I solidly townread her right up to her replace out and never scum read her so where are you getting that from? You replaced into ecane's slot, is it guilty conscience?

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I'm not really buying this. The set-up would be too weird. If there are two scum, then scum is incredibly wrecked if the ninja gets lynched D1 - two investigatives, and a larger town than usual for a two scum game.

Is a two-scum team with two PRs possible in a normal game? Because imho that would be the answer to that problem. And in any case I feel like the presence of a watcher, whether or not you believe my claim, should imply a scum PR such as a ninja because the watcher is so powerful. I would say it rules out a three scum team though.

I also don't really buy your reason for tracking rask - even a negative result like you claim to have gotten wouldn't clear rask and you had to be aware that he was probably going to be nked if he was town.

Ugh, I tracked rask because I've been suffering from terrible paranoia about her as a result of our last game . Maybe it was a bad choice and an emotionally driven one but I would have thought you or Maria would have been just as good NKs as her, were I scum looking to NK someone.

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Hey Jaack, what do you think of Gerryoat?

Well he looks a lot worse after 721 and 722...

Uff gerry is hard. I was scum reading him yesterday and he was on the mislynch, but at the same time, I doubt ganski's scum partner would buy ganski's defense so easily.

The simple answer to this is that Gerry is probably gamma or yoshi's partner. I still think he should be killed off

VOTE: Gerryoat

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I presume you're applying Occam's Razor? The only assumption I can honestly see that you have to make to believe that I was town would be to believe my claim

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LMAO. IF YOU'RE TOWN, YOU'RE SO BAD HOLY CRAP. You vote the one person that actually tried to give reason as to why you could be town?

You put up the most lacklustre defence of me so tomorrow you can crow you weren't on the mislynch and force through another one

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By the way, for when I've flipped town and you're still looking for both scum tomorrow, gamma and gerry are quite clearly hard bussing each other here.

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hm, ok then that actually would make sense. anyway, vote gamma this is mafia 100%

didnt you type that light had confirmed herself as town

Lol he's trying to bus his partner dw

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By the way, for when I've flipped town and you're still looking for both scum tomorrow, gamma and gerry are quite clearly hard bussing each other here.

How are you so sure there's 2 scum?

Because jaack proved why a three scum setup with ninja is more unbalanced thatn a two scum one

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And through knowing I'm tracker scum must have a ninja

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Also, light's fos on me is very weak too. she says we are bussing, so why does she refuse to vote gamma??

Because I'm 100% confident your scum, I'm only about 97% confident that gamma is

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And I'm still not sure who the ninja is out of you two

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VOTE: light_ganski

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Lol I'm dying today string me up

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Thats the hammer btw

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Go scum!

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Good job ira