Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

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Before this locks, KTS + Transcend looks like a good scum team pair.

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Bye Transcend

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My theory:

Town!Transcend usually has an eye on KTS, but in this game he isn't doing that despite KTS openly saying he doesn't want to play the game (which is a characteristic for scum!KTS).

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Hopefully I am proven wrong as soon xyzzy flips.

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Probably between Skelda, Vedith and Blitzkrieg

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Seraphim (3): Blitzkrieg, Vedith, xyzzy

Maybe there's one scum there.

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Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

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Going with this:

VOTE: Skelda

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Hi I'm not dead

Reads:

{Naomi, Transcend}
{

Xyzzy

}
{KTS}
{Skelda,

massive

, Io}
{blackstar}
{Vedith, creature}

Still gotta ISO the new people

@Mod - I though I'd changed my vote to vedith in 495

No mention of Seraphim and pistachi0n.

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Jordarrian/Seraphim and pistachi0n/Blitzkrieg.

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Maybe it's just Skelda and Vedith.

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hey creature what happened to me being scum?

Did your team tell you to push someone else?

I reread the thread.

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Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

Im going to put this quote away for much later (not a post today but MUCH later)

You can take note of this now.

Mafia didn't kill massive.

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Also, if Vedith flips scum, Seraphim is pretty much town as I doubt he would bus all his buddies early in the game to be survivalistic.

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Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

Im going to put this quote away for much later (not a post today but MUCH later)

You can take note of this now.

Mafia didn't kill massive.

And how do you know this..?

Starts with V

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The way you caught up.

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I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

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Or we can call BlackStar

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There are better kills than massive.

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So do you still believe it's absolutely impossible for a town vig + town dayvig?

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That'd be good if you could dayvig Vedith.

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I hate when I get the scumteam PoE'd but someone's like "Nah, X is pretty much town"

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At least at these I agree.

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PoE:
Vedith
Seraphim
Killthestory
Blitzkrieg
Skelda

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I'd start PoEing with Skelda.

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Sure, if we have BlackStar to shoot Skelda, we'll be:
5 townblock vs 4 non-townblock

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Is there a town-aligned roleblocker?

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Just paranoid that Naomi didn't write romances on Mini 1820.

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Okay, guess Vedith and KTS are town.

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Anyone wants to whiteknight Skelda?

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PoE:

Vedith

Seraphim

Killthestory

Blitzkrieg
Skelda

Transcend
Naomi-Tan

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Btw, Seraphim replacing out isn't AI.

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That's why that'd be nice that, if there's one, the roleblocker should out their target.

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Can we like start lynching/choosing a dayvig shot? We're just going back and forth here.

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Well, I am so far just going back and forth.

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but you're free to keep discussing.

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I also think the same, I don't know why Blitz don't.

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Thought I already validated I vigged massive, not fullclaiming.

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KTS actually made me think he was doing something in Open 649, but then I ISOed and realised he didn't do anything.

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Also, idk why Skelda wouldn't be okay with us PoEing him.

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If you have the ability to stop the kill, you know you might've stopped one.

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Rach is town.

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Townreads of my head: BlackStar, Naomi, RachMarie, Io, Blitzkrieg.

Who's left?

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KTS, Skelda, Transcend, Vedith

Who's scum here?

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Black has a vig shot left.

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So far no progress.

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VOTE: Skelda

Incase I didn't.

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Good news: My computer might be fixed by tomorrow

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Just since yesterday.

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Before yesterday actually.

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Thanks

Naomi 1/2 for me

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oh no
how
!!
oh

I'll win this for you D:

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{Naomi, Transcend}
{Xyzzy}
{KTS}
{Skelda, massive, Io}
{blackstar}
{Vedith, creature}

If KTS is scum, then the other scum is prob in the tiers below.

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A real dayvig wouldn't be bad.

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VOTE: KTS

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Guess he should've used dayvig, not shoot.

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KTS is being abrasive.

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Same can be told about Titus combining bad pairs and tunneling them.

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She wasn't trying to make scum pairs in Homestuck.

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It's hard to lynch someone when there's someone hard defending him, this is why scum wins more.

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Lie? Where?

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lol it isn't a lie, it's non-knowledge.

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Bah I'll see where this goes.

VOTE: RachMarie

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L-1 btw

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Yes, it is.

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I would rather lynch Vedith or Skelda tbh, they're too under the radar.

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What?

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Skelda is an empty slot, Vedith isn't.

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I am going to follow my heart.

VOTE: Vedith

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I was already townreading Rach, just wanted to see how she would react.

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All aboard Vedith wagon

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What about Vedith?

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Take a wagon, preferably Skelda or Vedith.

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Oh right

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Can you survive one dayvig shot?

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Let me see:
Vedith: I'll catch up
1-2 days later...
Vedith: I'll catch up
1-2 days later...
Vedith: I'll catch up
1-2 days later...
Vedith: Okay, BlackStar is scum

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Hi Expedience

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Hey Rach, Expedience is the new Skelda

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Guess no one noticed it

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Gonna do this again:

1. Transcend

2. RachMarie

3. Killthestory

4. BlackStar
5. Creature

6. Expedience
7. Vedith
8. Blitzkrieg

9. Io
10. Naomi-Tan

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No, I read the OP

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To make this list:

Gonna do this again:

1. Transcend

2. RachMarie

3. Killthestory

4. BlackStar
5. Creature

6. Expedience
7. Vedith
8. Blitzkrieg

9. Io
10. Naomi-Tan

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May Expedience save his slot

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So far Townblock (Naomi, Rach, Black, Io and me) vs PoE (Transcend, Vedith, Expedience, KTS and Blitzkrieg)

Total: 5 townblock vs 5 PoE

Dayvig shot

Total: 5 townblock vs 4 PoE

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VOTE: Expedience

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lol if you think I scumslipped

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Good town would be past the point of competing wagons at this point.

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I thought he was two-shot.

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Blitzkrieg
Expedience
Killthestory
Transcend
Vedith

Please, tell which of these you won't wagon.

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Oh right

VOTE: Vedith

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Transcend: ???
RachMarie: VT
Killthestory: Bulletproof
BlackStar: 1-shot Dayvig
Creature: Role that can kill
Expedience: ???
Vedith: ???
Blitzkrieg: ???
Io: ???
Naomi-Tan: Metropolitan (?)

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Hey, at least we know mafia might've not killed massive.

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So what do you think about Expedience's entrance?

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but not which

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Let's continue:

Blitzkrieg
Expedience
Killthestory
Transcend
Vedith

Please, tell which of these you won't wagon.

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I didn't see.

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At most I have been at L-3 (maybe I was at L-2) so I refuse to claim. I'm tired of dealing with Blitz and I'm utterly baffled that anyone would trust someone who thinks it's a good idea to lynch confirmed town and tunnel the person who pushed the Light lynch hardest. Xyzzy outed themselves when they sheeped her.

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Why Vedith is town?

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Why Vedith resistance exists?

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Who cares about pronouns?

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Why Vedith resistance exists?

Why do you scum read Verdith when you and him are in the exact same position aside from he's not claiming to be a murderer?

You and Titus would make a good pair.

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Sorry Io, I don't see Rach + Naomi there.

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At least I agree with you Skelda slot is being towny.

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Seeing Exp doesn't like to be scum, he must be not so good.

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at being scum.

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My second wagon option would be Transcend.

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Why not? She acted like one.

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VOTE: KTS

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Someone needs to do votecounts tomorrow.

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Nvm, it's 4/6 (Expedience, Io, Naomi-Tan and me)

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or because the mod edited the OP before announcing.

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Hey Blitz, do you think two vigs + bulletproof are all town?

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Say I am confirmed town, are they still all town?

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I didn't claim JOAT.

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Hopefully none of you are planning to lynch inside {BlackStar, Io, Naomi-Tan, RachMarie, me}

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I only claimed I vigged massive, I don't need to fullclaim yet.

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And Killthestory escapes again

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Depends

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but 2 vigs + bulletproof doesn't, right?

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Okay, I'm fine with Expedience lynch, but if he flips town, then we're going to lynch Killthestory and then Transcend, I don't think he would mind as he's so confident Vedith is town.

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Whatever

Intent to hammer

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If Vedith turns out to be scum, I already know who I'll put in dishonorable mention.

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I feel like this is Open 649 2.0

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Okay, I'm fine with Expedience lynch, but if he flips town, then we're going to lynch Killthestory and then Transcend, I don't think he would mind as he's so confident Vedith is town.

Actually scratch out KTS, if there's no role able to stop the kill, it's more plausible scum hit KTS.

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I don't want to lynch KTS now.

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PEDIT: No role that has been revealed we don't know about 50% of town and I dont think its likely at all that KTS would been targeted.

1) KTS was targeted.
2) Scum also killed massive.

massive isn't a good scum kill

3) Scum decided to nolynch.

why?

4) Another killstopper.

If the scenario is 4, then we lynch someone else other than KTS (hopefully scum) and then the next day we look for a counterclaim (otherwise KTS is town).

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Blitzkrieg
Expedience
Transcend

These are ideal lynches imo

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Not today.

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VOTE: Transcend

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Io voted Trans

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If you think KTS is scum, look for his partner, a CC tomorrow would screw him.

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Okay

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Just gonna wait Exp claim.

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Considering a Expedience + Blitzkrieg

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Okay...

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Though, I am a huge lurker as scum.

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Whatever, I can talk about my meta postgame.

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Didn't see a claim from Expedience.

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Can we vote Trans if Naomi is off the table?
I'm still v/la so I haven't caught up but I know that they're both scum.

VOTE: Trans

towny

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I didn't prevent a kill. That's all i will claim. Ie not protective or blocking.

also towny

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Mod

You missed RachMarie's vote.

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We're very likely going to win anyway.

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So far KTS' claim makes sense with the lack of mafia kill.

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Hopefully this doesn't turn into an Open 649 (where town lynches my strongest townreads)

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Yeah, if he isn't I am pretty much confused there.

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Who doesn't bookmark the games they're on?

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Actually I could hammer last night after Expedience claimed, just went like "Nah let's wait a bit more"

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TTH's Summer Mafia

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I am not Dwlee99 though.

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I am just going to pretend she's trying to imitate a bad town playstyle.

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Nope, apparently she didn't vote any scum.

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And she didn't abuse it...

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Hey Naomi, can you simulate a flip?

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VOTE: Transcend

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Naomi, I don't recommend you to share your result yet.

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Anyone's an investigative?

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If you're online and you're not an investigative role, say you aren't.

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or better, we could massclaim.

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Nope.

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Still think we should massclaim.

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Even though all PRs might be out.

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but you claimed non-investigative

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Oh right.

Naomi, feel free to share your result.

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though, bodyguard + watcher + neo?

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Crumbs?

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Yeah, doubt Transcend + Naomi-Tan are town together.

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Hi Naomi, I know you're online, what was your result?

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UNVOTE:

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Hi Naomi, are you posting your scum PT?

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Naomi, if your result isn't on Io or Transcend, we might have found the whole scum team.

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Okay, let's wait the massclaim then.

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Oh nice, Blitzkrieg and Vedith are the most inactive players there.

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Just wondering why no one tried to kill Naomi, specially if the scum were hiding in the VTs.

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Guess Blitzkrieg and Vedith will wait the thread close.

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Transcend didn't see anyone visiting Naomi and I doubt Killthestory is a ninja bodyguard.

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Nah, we want to make everyone claim so scum won't try to claim something when they notice someone got a non VT result on them.

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Okay, though I'd like to hear who's that non-VT result and I don't want to try to sort another claim.

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Whatever.

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Hopefully Naomi's result isn't on Transcend.

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Though, I don't see a point for a roleblocker to not claim, if we get scum today, they can confirm someone/stop scum.

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Only you and Vedith didn't claim.

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Okay, so Naomi tells her result?

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VOTE: Vedith

I am not sure how many votes on him there are, so count before you vote.

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I'd rather keep Naomi-Tan and Transcend alive for now.

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And if we lynch incorrectly?

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But you would die anyway and we'd have to try to find the scum in Naomi/Vedith or lose.

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We could also nolynch.

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Well, failing would mean we'd have to find scum in Vedith/Naomi.

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Transcend, my paranoias are:
1) You (and Vedith) are scum.
2) There's a ninja.

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We could also nolynch and have Naomi get another result.

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Who's scum outside then?

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UNVOTE:

I am pro-nolynch.

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NL IS THE DEFINITION OF TOWN SUICIDE HERE.

How?

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NL IS THE DEFINITION OF TOWN SUICIDE HERE.

How?

"Hey scum want a free pr death? Here ya go!"

but Naomi may get another result (possibly another non-VT).

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There's one scum between Naomi and Vedith, simple.

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Neapolitan gets positive on only VTs.

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And what'll happen if we mislynch someone outside of Naomi/Vedith?

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I am not bluffing, I really shoot massive.

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I don't see Naomi fakeclaiming a guilty with her partner not in a good position.

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That would be hillarious though.