LicketyQuickety's Mini Normal - 1847

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Prodge. Holiday weekend.

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Okay I forgot about this game. My apologies. I'm looking at it right now.

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Fucking hell that rvs was painful to read

And drealmer could very well be scum from it

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I disagree about it being flimsy. My votes are based on an assessment of underlying psychology of actions. 77 is a factual whine about the RVS phase, which I'm no longer in.

But if you called it iioa fluff or anything for other than "factual whine" it would be a scum tell

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Oh someone's name is flubbernugget

I'm never forgetting a quality name like flubbernugget

<3

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I'm not sure why thibkbig believes Josh is (was if he got replaced) lying about not reading his role pm

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I'm honestly dissappointed josh flipped town because I wanted to entertain the idea of Pine hiding some pretty hardcore coaching in plain sight

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At least one Mafioso is down - nice job to the town vigilante.

gerryoat is a shocking NK as he had only posted 3 times.

Let's try not to fuck this DP up by hammering someone by mistake.

The fact that you were pushing really hard on an easy lynch d1 just to come screaming out of the gates with...this...looks really bad

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Prodge. Holiday weekend.

Really? That's your first post this game?

Yes. It is common for players to be inactive during a big holiday week.

Would you like to flesh out an opinion of my alignment from this post, or just let your empty jab at it stand as is?

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Case on TB is pretty solid. You're kinda the one who's doing nothing but throwing shade.

He's a lot more than kinda throwing it

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It's more Drealmerz's actions and general impressions than specific things about TB. However, Congratulating the Doc is a classic newbie scumslip though, and congratulating the Vig is an entirely fluent translation of that.

The fact that you appeal to your own experience on this site while not acknowledging how site meta changes and then trying to apply that site meta to someone with a new join date is mind boggling to say the least

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[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p8557386]post 256[/url], PenguinPower"][quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p8557358]post 252[/url], nn30"]5) There's an easier explanation - he screwed up the vote count. Use Occam's razor.[/quote]

Sorry, but this irritates me. Just because there is an easier explanation, does not mean that it's the correct one. That is not the intent of Occam's Razor - which seems to be so widely misapplied.[/quote]
Piggybacking off this, occam's razor is for rigorous scientific theorizing, not the subjective way scum hunting is done

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Lol quotes are for assholes anyway

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It's more Drealmerz's actions and general impressions than specific things about TB. However, Congratulating the Doc is a classic newbie scumslip though, and congratulating the Vig is an entirely fluent translation of that.

So I guess the question is how new is TB?

He's been here for over a year and has numerous completed games.

I think that means he's not going to make the 'newb scum slip'

Do you agree?

Join date 2.5 months ago, post count 368. That's about as vulnerable to newbie tells as you get.

It's a common practice on other sites and TB doesn't seem to be bumbling hard enough for me to buy "absolute newbie"

Though I'm scum reading the same post as you for different reasons so I wonder about the value in actually arguing this

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Summarize why PP is scum

Yes, please do. Take care not to misrep or twist words. Also, make sure to provide smoking gun evidence and utilize Occam's Razor in your thought process.

Lol

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BTW...LUV is doing awesome compared to prev. games. I'm putting him in my town pool for now.

I dont recall him ever formulating a read

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Im sad to see Think Big replace but it gives a fresh new view on his slot and it may help some of us see the slot differently.

Not really. His actions thus far still count, as do those of the people interacting with him. Just because he's getting replaced doesn't change the fact that he was scummy, nor does it change the fact that drealmerz's actions point to him.

Moar TB votes.

So if/when tb flips scum this is going to be a nice post to archive

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Garmr shifting his tunnel off pine after pine town read him for said tunnel makes Garmr look town

That was an absolutely atrocious sentence but I don't feel like fixing it

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@Shadow_Step

Hi...

I think you and I could do well to agree to play nice with one another.

I'm certainly willing to do so.

Have you played with shadow step before?

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@Flubber - I love the stream of consciousness going on here. When you're done I'd like a summarized list of reads from you.

I have TB/shadow for sure scum, Pine for town(ish), Garmr for town, PenguinPower for town, and no memory of the rest of the players

Reserving a shadow vote because I don't want l1 yet

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TB pushed an easy wagon to a premature lynch and was afterwards unable to formulate a single read

I town read penguins snark. I skipped reading most of the back and forth between you two

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Actually I have no recollection of you making a town case on TB from my read though

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Through

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Pine

I want to look for nns Town case first

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Ugh your town case is that your sleeping Garmr?

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Sleeping fuck

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SHEEPING

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VOTE: shadow step

L1

I'm just going to assume that Garmr's case won't be good enough to save nn from implication in the event this slot flips scum. I also don't like that attention is drifting from the slot

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nn bussing drealmer was a no brainer

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Okay so that double vote thing was a lie

1svt pls explain

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I'd be fine with a Flubber lynch today. His push on me is built on air and if he were town he'd know it.

Okay buddy

Humor me and point out where I'm pushing on you

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No no, Flubber read is based on a S_S scumflip. Not until then.

If we lynch scum both d1 and d2 even if you vouch for my lynch you should also consider what I pointed out on Saj

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Shadow, in your mind, what was my reasoning for hopping on your wagon?

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No no, Flubber read is based on a S_S scumflip. Not until then.

If we lynch scum both d1 and d2 even if you vouch for my lynch you should also consider what I pointed out on Saj

See, I had this whole speech prepared. About how when scummers these days don't know what someone is referring to, they ask people to repeat themselves instead of looking it up themselves. You ruined that for me.

Because you haven't really mentioned SAJ until the quoted. Pretty much at all.

So you put me in the irritating position of doing what I despise in new scummers: wtf are you talking about?

I have no clue what this rant is going on about.

However, 324 is Saj not wanting us to look at shadow step based on the TB slot. I don't think that's entirely damning in itself, but a scum flip from shadow step makes Saj look really bad. This is what I was trying to point out in 400

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I have more to say but I'm running late to work

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It's been a while since we last played buddy

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Did a reread and the argument between Garmr and Pine looks TvT. Both don't seem to realize that they're talking past each other and that's it's now come to a head. Both think they're catching each other in petty points and contradictions but it doesn't seem to be helping town one bit.

The TB slot is still null for me. Flubber worries me more. I was first pinged by him being confused about TB's questioning of Josh lying about not reading his role PM. But, I didn't know what to make of it, and I felt it was better to wait till he was done catching up. Now after a reread, the question towards Shadow in 447 pings me, feels like scum trying to get Shadow to say something they can push on. The shade throwing towards nn also doesn't sit well with me at all and sealed it for me.

VOTE: Flubber

Dark Horse:

Effort is not indicative of alignment.

Asking someone questions to see if they'll do something to push on is what is commonly known in the industry as SCUMHUNTING

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So what i am getting from all this is PP v NN is still alive, Flubber thinks Shadow and myself are scum together but Flubber is really scummy looking himself, and Shadow has a semi for the 1SVT.

Ill throw down on a Flubber vote as they are the scummiest out of the proposed lynches. I think Shadow is pretty townlean in my opinion so if he is confident in a 1SVT vote, its probably a good vote also.

VOTE: Flubber

Please point out where I said I scum read you

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@Flubber - you throw some weak ass shade my direction - 452, 447

You are consistently labeling the way I hunt with associatives as "weak ass shade" and I don't understand that

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I saw your name pop up on other sub forums SAJ.

Nn

This is what actual "weak ass shade" looks like

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Shadow, in your mind, what was my reasoning for hopping on your wagon?

No reasoning, you just want to lynch town.

When I get to a computer I will cite in several places where you are embarrassingly wrong

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My wagon is a textbook counterwagon from a textbook scum read

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So now effort is indicative of alignment

Even if it did take more effort to point the activity out, how is that easier for town to do as scum? How reliable is this tell? What fucking planet are you living on?

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My wagon is a textbook counterwagon from a textbook scum read

Wrong.

Your mother is probably a

very nice person

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You literally just saw a counter to the wagon you started SCREAM into place and that's all you have to say?

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You started a wagon on tb/shadow_step

I sprung up really fast as a counterwagon

Why does this not bother you?

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*sigh*

Won't argue theory in thread. There's plenty of reason to believe shadow step is scum outside of wagons.

But you still seem incredibly indifferent to the fact that a wagon on your scum read is falling apart

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At least one Mafioso is down - nice job to the town vigilante.

gerryoat is a shocking NK as he had only posted 3 times.

Let's try not to fuck this DP up by hammering someone by mistake.

The fact that you were pushing really hard on an easy lynch d1 just to come screaming out of the gates with...this...looks really bad

Prodge. Holiday weekend.

Really? That's your first post this game?

Yes. It is common for players to be inactive during a big holiday week.

Would you like to flesh out an opinion of my alignment from this post, or just let your empty jab at it stand as is?

It's more Drealmerz's actions and general impressions than specific things about TB. However, Congratulating the Doc is a classic newbie scumslip though, and congratulating the Vig is an entirely fluent translation of that.

So I guess the question is how new is TB?

He's been here for over a year and has numerous completed games.

I think that means he's not going to make the 'newb scum slip'

Do you agree?

Join date 2.5 months ago, post count 368. That's about as vulnerable to newbie tells as you get.

It's a common practice on other sites and TB doesn't seem to be bumbling hard enough for me to buy "absolute newbie"

Though I'm scum reading the same post as you for different reasons so I wonder about the value in actually arguing this

TB pushed an easy wagon to a premature lynch and was afterwards unable to formulate a single read

I town read penguins snark. I skipped reading most of the back and forth between you two

VOTE: shadow step

L1

I'm just going to assume that Garmr's case won't be good enough to save nn from implication in the event this slot flips scum. I also don't like that attention is drifting from the slot

Shadow Step

Can you better explain how you are interpreting these posts as having no reasoning in them?

Nn

Can you explain how it takes effort to say I'm not using reasoning in lieu of these posts?

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I could do flubber but 1SVT is literally doing nothing.

I'm not asking about the compilation (though it takes more effort to compile posts than to see a name appear on a different board)

I'm not even asking about effort I have made

You are saying shadow step is using effort in his reads

I am saying shadow step is ignoring my posts

How does it take effort to ignore my posts?

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Can you explain how my posts had no effort in them before I quoted them?

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Doesn't make your question less trash

447?

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Forget it

I can't argue against "weak ass shade" when it can only get defined with circular reasoning

pedit: You're acting as though this is something I am basing reads off of as opposed to archiving for future reference. If I am not making pushes based off pre-flipped associatives, what issue are you taking with them?

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Intent to hammer Flubbernugget. I'd prefer S_S, but either works.

Claim is VT but I'm at L2

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Which matters... Because?

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How does that change anything

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Hey garmr

You claimed intent to hammer after I already claimed and I'm still here

What gives