What, no, we can't be out of RVS, I've gotta VOTE: Lil Uzi first. Hi LUV!In post 31, Sesq wrote:I would vote you for the lol's but I'm done with RVS. I mean, it *is* page 2, after all. We have higher standards now.
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Or you know, maybe they haven't had time to vote yet? I'll have to go back and look at the wagon, but it's interesting that you're trying to narrow it down to either the wagon target or the wagon members, at this early stage.In post 61, drealmerz7 wrote:so I'm thinking scum would usually hop on a 4th spot in a situation like this and push the wagon along / at least see if it gets a little more traction...that they haven't eeeither means there is scum already on it and they don't want to double-down, or it is scum...
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Cannot imagine ever feeling bad about lynching kraska. (This isn't a contribution, it's me making conversation)In post 113, rb wrote:transcend i dno why ur being weird but if ur scum u can just get urself modkilled because ill feel bad if i have to lynch u
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Bloody hell the game is growing as I'm trying to reply to stuff. And I'm having a hard time keeping everyone straight. OK, whatevs, here we go:
(PS - I've managed to leave my charger at work so I won't be back tonight probably)
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Are you seriously town reading someone because statistically they are more likely to be town? Wtf?In post 211, Impoetic wrote:you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario
Uhhh yeah this read to me like someone is making a town read based on scum knowledge, and then trying to cover their ass.
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I need to go back and check this, but had Bunny contributed much in these 10 posts? Was there a general vibe of towniness from the slot, in spite of so few posts? I disagree (in general) that oyu can't get a town read on someone from just a few posts, but in this specific instance you might be right. (Wanna quotey spoiler Bunny's 10 posts and save me the leg work/battery power?)In post 327, Kohai wrote:I can't fall asleep so...
My biggest problem with Transcend town reading rabbit is that he had less than 10 posts - most not very substantial - by the time Transcend TR'd him.
I have played with Transcend and Lil Uzi (LUV). LUV was scum but got caught, can't remember what alignment Transcend was as it was a while ago. I remember catching Uzi but I don't remember whether he bussed (too focused on my glorious town victory).In post 377, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:okay i have an open question for people who've played with other people in this game
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Sorry, bunny just comes out when I mean R a b b i tIn post 395, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:im not bunny im rabbit
hit my iso button and see if you would invite me to your town circle after the first 10 posts
Yeah, I think after your first 10 you're town-for-now. It's not like, the strongest town read I've ever had, but I can't see any scumminess there. Put it this way, I wouldn't lynch you today unless there was some drastic change in your behaviour or tone.-
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In post 397, Impoetic wrote:oh god i'm actually getting wagoned d1 jesus
i'm town, i was defensive because i didn't like the explanation for the fos on me, i wouldn't be defensive as scum, scum is the only thing i do well
Uhhh, OK then ...In post 398, Impoetic wrote:i know that's wifomy but jesus christ it's fucking suboptimal for scum to spaz out and respond wiht walls upon walls of text to a single joke that would normally just fade with time (it's page 7) unless they're doing it for town cred and i mean since i spent walls and walls letting myself get BWed before bringing this up to cash in for towncred... just stop speedlynching me i just saw like 3 votes
If you know that being defensive is likely to get you scum read, why would you avoid it as scum but do it as town?
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Yeah, I see it, I'm not totally convinced yet though because faking isn't *that* hard. I'm going to let this play out overnight, which is when most of the game seems to get played.In post 408, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:shannon do you see the town tone in recent 3 posts lol
this kind of indignation is not easy to fake well
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Page 18 - Yep, OK, we got it, no more walls please x
In post 437, Impoetic wrote:Like yes, I could be scum. I've never said I couldn't be scum here, and you can ISO me and see that. I don't ask to be cleared over subjective stuff. But so could anyone else; this is a game where everyone and everything can be scum at the start. That's kind of the premise. So if there's a situation where i'm town, and there's no reason to think the situation where I'm scum is more likely, then what sense does it make to scumread me over everyone else?
I know I'm being a derptown and that's why I'm actually at risk of getting MLed here, and I know I should be scumhunting and not continuing to pitch a fit over a tiny little wagon early on in d1.
It's just my style to be bad, tbh -- but also the fact that my terrible communication skills are frustrating me and making me want to keep trying to reword everything and not move on from the topic.
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If would be super helpful if you could try to explain what you're seeing, even a little bit. What makes LUV so readable to you?In post 450, drealmerz7 wrote:I also don't very often get super-hard reads of no-doubt like I have on LUV, and when I do get those reads they're 9/10 times correct, so it's hard for me to let go. Obviously I know I can't expect anyone else to see what I see, so I will work on it, but it's probably not until later today at the least.
+1In post 459, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Iron seemed to imply he was going to seriously start playing the game Monday when he mentioned Thanksgiving so I'm giving him the benefit of doubt for now.
I don't think that's it. To me, it reads like bunny is trying to get more depth from people, and to see who is going to work from 'vibes' vs who is going to give strong cases with quotes etc.In post 460, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Fluffy earlier insisted on not being town read for some reason, makes me wonder if he's worried about people seeing that his posts are designed to have people TR him.-
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In post 500, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:you asid "Sure. Basically, I knew you were new to this site and I assumed you'd be newer to the game as well. The conversation with Transcend just makes me think newbtown but then I realized you just don't know that he always plays like this. Once you came to accept that you started doing things that actually made sense as a town player. I'll mark that point where you change within the quotes."
i disagree that the first set of spoilered quotes you produced wasn't pro town or didn't "actually make sense as a town player"
there were pro-town reasons for every post there imo
me not knowing transcends playstyle would be a reason to post those things, not to not post those things imoIn post 504, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:rabbit - Yeah we disagree on that then. With my knowledge of Transcend, it does not look productive to try to engage him in the way you did. He can be engaged, but if you try to do it directly you won't get anywhere most of the time. You're right about you not knowing Transcends playstyle being a justification for posting those things, that's why I'm leaning town on you nowafteryou figured Trans out a bit and "started doing things that actually made sense as a town player."
Getting to you drone
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So, could we please get these cases now?In post 185, Kohai wrote:I'm getting off work in 5 hours. I'll make my cases then. For now, FOS on:
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In post 601, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:hey is he town though or just not for today? Him and Kohai are definitely defending each other
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Nuh-uh, no way. I'll cop to weird (I think kraska's term is 'kooky') but I'm not scummy for it and I'm not going to accept being lynched. 'Tis just how I am.In post 638, Drone wrote:Uzi ain't a solid read in my list, pass.
Shannon is weird, okay with lynch.
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This is a fair point why is everyone talking about lynching this guy but no one is voting him?In post 669, ironstove wrote:
I only have 0 votes because people aren't VOTING FOR ME. I just SAID PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE FOR ME IF THEY THINK I'M SCUM INSTEAD OF THROWING SHADE.In post 653, Drone wrote:He needs some winding
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Quickie catch up, let's see what stuck out.
My personal thoughts on Transcend lean towards scummy, but I take the word of people earlier in the game who said it's basically impossible to tell D1. Given that he can also apparently be really good as town, I don't think we should lynch there today, based on a cost/benefit thinky thing.In post 709, ironstove wrote:
So you're in total disagreement with my town and scum reads so far? You think transcend is more towny than scummy from your POV?In post 702, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:i dont like anything you just posted lmao
I am town reading Ironstove for 711, I think it was far too thorough to be fake. Interesting about RB's image macros potentially being a tic. Catch of the game if RB flips scum.
In post 711, ironstove wrote:Mostly caught up now, AMA
Spoiler:
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Tone is rather off from previous town games I've been with him in, which gives me a very strong gut read that he's scum for this game.
Impoetic I think you'll get more from VCA once we've got a flip and can compare your wagon vs whatever other wagons develop and ultimately succeed.In post 741, Impoetic wrote:*not a chicken/egg scenario but you know what i mean
oh frick i'm quadrupleposting sorry ):
anyway, i wanted to point out that town can sheep logic/be swayed by popular consensus too, and I understand that is a possible scenario. So yeah okay votes can either be town or scum.
I'll have to review it i suppose. Or look up VCA, because I don't think improvising completely is a good strategy. Or just stop and look elsewhere.
^Seems forcedIn post 756, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Looks like I'm going to have to compromise but I don't think I will mind, Iron's meta dive on rb was very convincing.
In post 765, ironstove wrote:health reasons = suffering too much anxiety trying to figure out a post to craft to get him out of the hole he's dug himself into after I called out his BS to link me to his other games and would rather dump the problem onto another player instead.
^Ironstone this is a crappy thing to say, really.In post 772, ironstove wrote:How is that reaching? You don't sus his slot at all?
You don't find it perfect timing that he replaces out after being called out for his endless V/LAs and asked to provide the proof that he said he would?
Look at the guy's ISO and tell me this isn't a fucking scummy ass replacement request.
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Yeah, I just did, and I don't get why there's a wagon on you? Like, at all? The only thing I can come up with is that there are a few naked (or nearly nudie) votes and a bit of shitposting, but I can't see that as alignment indicative. The best case I've seen so far is the one about your image use being a scum tic, which is not exactly ironclad evidence.In post 794, rb wrote:Someone did a meta dive on me, LUL-
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An alt, you mean? No, I'm just meIn post 820, ironstove wrote:Shanon is an aka?
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and i have a vote on me alreadyIn post 819, shannon wrote:My case would just be vibes, which is no case at all.
why not strengthen that wagon tosee if your vibes are aaccurate or not
your play looks to careful and tactical
tonight's WWE match is shannon vs. the noose
who will be the winner?
my money's on the noose imo
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In post 839, ironstove wrote:Is Shanon goodmorning?
It really is just me, I'm my own person, I promise xIn post 844, ironstove wrote:Sounds like goodmorning. Does anyone know if Shanon has another account? I'm curious what the alt is, I'm pretty sure that's not the original account.
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OK, lemme go back and find some quotes. Might be a while because I'm a work.In post 827, Drone wrote:I'm looking at Shannon,
And my thinking nettles tend towards her words.
If one convinces me Uzi is Mafia, then it'd be Shannon.
Shannon, what gives you innocent reads on Bunny, and what gives you guilty reads on Transcend?
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I don't know what this means. What is playing darts? I don't really get metaphors, please be literal.In post 862, Drone wrote:Technically, I'm addressing only you in this statement, Shannon.
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Dude are you reading my mind?In post 869, ironstove wrote:rb is at 5 votes, LUV voted after the VC, so I'm a little worried by how easy this lynch seems and the fact that transcend is also on the wagon is making me think that rb is actually town.
Now that you mention it ...In post 878, drealmerz7 wrote:non-voters should be voting
VOTE: Transcend if that suggestion is not scum, it's at least anti-town. Waiting for a claim from rb is not necessarily going to draw out PRs (as Transcend says) and it's just good manners to ask for one, for fricks sake.
Actually, I can see a way that Scum Transcend makes this play: RB is town. Transcend is like, hey dudes, totally hammer this wagon, OMG hammer already, best wagon ever, so scummy, five stars would vote RB again. So one of us does it (maybe Transcend thinks I want his approval and will do it for Transcend Points), and RB flips town. Transcend's D2 play is to point the finger at that person and say SEE HOW EASILY THEY CHANGED THEIR VOTE? TOO EASILY and point to the fact that 'whoever votes' is only doing so because Transcend asked, not for some genuine read, and that's surely scum. There he goes, lining up a second lynch but without explicitly needing to tie any two names together at the outset.
Point taken. See above.In post 897, ironstove wrote:Also transcend demanding someone hammer before rb can even claim is scummy as fuck why the fuck am I the only person scum reading transcend? Like those of you who refuse to scum read transcend because 'he's hard to read' d1 as your meta read and excuse are fucking ridiculous-
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All of this stuff in the spoilers. Just, all of it.
Transcend, your crumbs were about as subtle as a brick. It should have been obvious to you that they were what I referred to when I said I wasn't going to quote you and I thought you were a dirty faker, and that I wasn't going to vote you because of cost/benefit. I.e. if your softclaim was true it'd be worse for us to lose the JK than for us to miss lynching you as scum on D1. If you are town were either being incredibly dense in continuing to scum read me after I said all that, or you just decided to keep being a dick. I don't know. The other option is of course that you are scum.
Also, explain to me how a jailkeeper is supposed to contradict a 1 shot BP (957)? And why you later changed your mind and decided that the roles don't contradict (1043)? Surely this is not such a huge thing that you (with your wealth of mafia experience) were mistaken about whether we could have both roles? I don't get (at all) how you thought that claiming your role as a counter to RB could be more useful for town than simply saying you don't believe his claim. Your claim hasn't painted his in any worse light. If you're town I really can't see your thought process making sense.
Aside: I also don't buy the 'Jae wouldn't do that' angle on the role combo. I just played a game that had a role modifier that hadn't been used in a mini normal in like, six years. And yet, there it is.
Drone says almost exactly what I wanted to say, also in the bit I've spoilered. #dronefortown
TL;DR: I call complete and utter bullshit on Transcend and stand by my vote.
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+1In post 1112, drealmerz7 wrote:wtf fluffy rabbit NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
he was a good player!!! that blows *cry*
HI TITUS - GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE!!
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Having made a really shitty JK play myself, I agree with this assessment.In post 1099, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:if transcend is real thats honestly some of the worst jk play ive ever seen
but ill believe its real lol haha
(I saved a target N1, claimed D2 to try to sort it, JKed the person who tried to kill me N2, but was roleblocked and died. The one of the few games where I've had good reads from the start, and I fucked it up).
I think Transcend is too experienced to play JK like shite, unless he has some belief that there's someone else who's going to save him tonight (and every night). If this is in fact the case, and a hypothetical doc goes about saving Transcend every night, I don't know how I'd ever trust what Transcend tells us are his night actions.-
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Oh you did too! I knew I recognised your name, how did I forget!In post 1121, Drone wrote:
Can confirm.In post 1119, shannon wrote:
Having made a really shitty JK play myself, I agree with this assessment.In post 1099, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:if transcend is real thats honestly some of the worst jk play ive ever seen
but ill believe its real lol haha
(I saved a target N1, claimed D2 to try to sort it, JKed the person who tried to kill me N2, but was roleblocked and died. The one of the few games where I've had good reads from the start, and I fucked it up).
I think Transcend is too experienced to play JK like shite, unless he has some belief that there's someone else who's going to save him tonight (and every night). If this is in fact the case, and a hypothetical doc goes about saving Transcend every night, I don't know how I'd ever trust what Transcend tells us are his night actions.
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Sick burnIn post 1141, Titus wrote:
You seem to have me at a disadvantage. I am not recalling any games we have played together.In post 1111, TTTT wrote:hi Titus
everyone pretty much thinks you are town
town is in luck
Titus' strength is set-up crackin'
rb claimed BP when at L-1 (but hadn't been playing like a BP at all)
trans claimed JK to "counter-claim" rb (which makes no sense)
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OK everyone knows Titus is rad but can we stop directing so much her way? What I mean to say is that if she's scum and we rely on her reads, we're gonna have a bad time. (And of course, she might be town and wrong, which happens).In post 1191, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Titus - TTTT wanting a rivaling Gerry wagon looked like a way to try to get better data for VC analysis once one or the other flipped. There are 2 people voting Gerry rn. TTTT and ironstove. ironstove was the one who originally came up with the meta case on rb that got people voting him, but now ironstove is nowhere to be found on the wagon. If Gerry's wagon is scum-driven, do you think TTTT or ironstove are more likely to be scum for being on it?
SSBM - I might be mistaken but I didn't think many people voted RB because of Ironstone's meta case. (You are referring to Ironstone's point about how many images or gifs he used in his play, right?). Also, weren't half of us scum reading Ironstone at the point he made that post?
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That was me, I said that if RB does flip scum then it's a good catch by Ironstone. I town read ironstone for that whole post but after it I checked RB's iso and found it non-scummy.In post 1205, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Not sure. That is what I was referring to though. Lots of people were feeling suspicious about his posting patterns I think but idk how many people had him as a strong SR. I thought I remembered someone commenting that they thought it was a good catch but maybe not. I'm not sure that any of the votes on rb are sheeps. If people would sheep Transcend rb would be lynched.In post 1194, shannon wrote:SSBM - I might be mistaken but I didn't think many people voted RB because of Ironstone's meta case. (You are referring to Ironstone's point about how many images or gifs he used in his play, right?). Also, weren't half of us scum reading Ironstone at the point he made that post?
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This looks like someone who just wants to be with the in crowd and is getting ready to jump to Gerry if the wind blows that way
In post 1258, Transcend wrote:Bp is a common scumclaim
And rb has done nothing to act like a bp
There isso much resistance on his slot too.
And scum claim bp so they can claim pr and get away with not dying.
He's probably also a scum power role. .
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So we have a third party then? (see bolded in spoilers)In post 1398, JaeReed wrote:rb has been lynched.
He was...
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Please PM all night actions to me.
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In post 1417, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:No third party as confirmed by mod in post number 1 of this thread
Just saw that - "There are 10 town and 3 mafia aligned players".
It just pinged me that "anti-town players not aligned with your faction" is a weird to include if there are no third parties. Could there be anti-town players aligned with (but not part of) the mafia, hence the reference to mafia aligned players (rather than 10 town and 3 mafia players)? (I don't know I am just asking. It's OK if we attribute this to the mod's writing style).-
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But he died, and if he'd used bulletproof he wouldn't have?In post 1419, gerryoat wrote:
Because he had to know he was being killed? He direct cc'dIn post 1412, Titus wrote:
Why would you guess that?In post 1401, gerryoat wrote:Well he was obvious town. I'm guessing he used his BP shot, but mafia has a strongman it seems like.-
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In post 1466, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In post 1449, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.In post 1448, Sesq wrote:
Explain, please.In post 1443, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.
You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.
I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.
@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?
@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.In post 1472, drealmerz7 wrote:Potential setup:
1x Town JOAT
1x Town Tracker
8x VT
1x Mafia JOAT (Strongman, Ninja, Roleblocker?)
1x Mafia Rolecop
1x Mafia Goon
that setup spec is not good
I'm figure LUV is scum (even scum-tracker, but not necessarily), claims result to clear scum-buddy figuring it is safe (doesn't actually claim a role) and with JOAT for town it is safe - if he is scumtracker even more confidence for him to claim a result on someone, and then it opens the possibility of him claiming it on a townie that he's got it on for the towncredIn post 1474, gerryoat wrote:if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.
I didn't go anywhere last night. I can't offer any counter to LUV's claim or any useful info about it, I don't think.
As D7 says, that proves nothing about either of us, unfortunately, except that I didn't kill Transcend, nor try to save/investigate anyone, unless I'm a ninja which would be cool but I'm not.
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I think LUV is town.
To my mind it seems silly for a scum team to come out and fake a role and a result when they've just lost RB, especially when Gerry was already in some people's minds as a lynch for today. I don't personally think LUV was under so much pressure as to necessitate a PR claim. Especially not one that gets him nowhere.
Yesterday someone (maybe it was Transcend) was saying they thought the two of us were connected and both scum. I think a few people had us in their scum pools. It just seems silly for Scum LUV to draw attention to himself by faking a result on me, or even to use his powers (if he's a scum tracker) and genuinely track me. (Why would Scum LUV think I'm a PR?). What I *can* see, though, is that Town LUV might be worried that this connection people are imagining between us is actually me as scum buddying him. So I think he legit tracked me for that reason.
Thoughts?
((Given that I had the shittest reads in the world on both RB and Transcend, I understand if everyone decides to vote LUV based on my town read of him))-
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I don't think LUV is the type to make such obviously crap moves.In post 1505, drealmerz7 wrote:
you're mad he made such a crap move as a scum-partner?In post 1504, shannon wrote: Thoughts?
OK, so having RB flip scum, and LUV claim to have investigated me (and said that I didn't go anywhere), what does that mean for your connections?In post 1506, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'm the one who was pointing to rb-LUV and shannon-LUV but iirc I didn't see much in the way of shannon-rb. I'd have to check my notes on PC after work though. Transcend's town block basically adopted TTTTs scum pool plus Shannon so you were in at least a few lynch pools but you weren't the focus, at least not my focus.
Uzi, why did you target shannon? You saw what rb flipped before you had to choose if you were going to use your action. Since you're one shot, I'd also question your choice to use the shot last night. Why not save your action for later use or at least target someone like Gerry or Impoetic who were both low activity yesterday, or someone like TTTT, Drone, or ironstove who was on the counter wagon to scum?
I also find it weird that you didn't see anything between RB and me, given that I just really didn't see the case for him as scum and said so quite vocally.
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@LUV can you please explain to me how all this (in spoilers) constitutes flying under the radar? Cos it kinda looks like Scum Me woulda been in trouble, with Transcend being pretty keen to have me killed off.
I'm also keen to know why you and RB both joined a wagon that I started early in the game, and then you just drifted off and voted no one for the entire rest of the day?
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I'm referring to this, btw.
Also @Impoetic I think we said something earlier about you being able to find scum after the flip by looking at your wagon and who was on it... might be time to go back and do that now.-
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I definitely find it interesting in retrospect. RB named me 'town for now' and joined the wagon I started, so that to me is a pretty clear attempt to garner some town cred through a bit of buddying. Kinda fell apart when people started pushing RB really heavily instead of pushing me, though.
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Now this ... this is interesting.In post 1531, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Crazy theory I'm nurturing: Impoetic/Titus scum team. The main reason I am TRing both of them is a combination of the conversation they had with each other and relying on Transcend's gut reads. Problem is, day talk is on and that whole conversation could have been rehearsed in the scum PT. Rabbit judged Impoetic as town for how fast she responded, saying that if she was scum it would be really hard to fake those responses so fast. Also note that neither of them would vote for rb yesterday iirc (can't check on mobile atm)
It's also interesting that Titus is being deliberately obtuse, by pretending not to know that D7 was talking to her in 1534.
We can always come back to LUV if we need to, but I think we should push this for info. It's so out there it just might be true.
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I have been looking at the wagons and going round and round in circles.
I feel like there's something going on withIronstove. He's voting Gerry for the longest time (from vote count in 910 to vote count in 1321, then votes on RB *where Gerry is voting*. This screams 'late attempt at bussing'.
I am also wondering whyImpoetichas never been shown as voting, in any of the vote counts. Care to explain that one please? I can see a vote on RB on 156 (called a joke), and a skim reveals no other votes.
On the plus side,D7looks town for his actions around the RB wagon.
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Alright, here's my attempt at solving the no counter wagon thing.In post 1562, Titus wrote:
Like I said, there was no counter. I want to solve why now.In post 1560, drealmerz7 wrote:oh hey thanks for pointing that back out to me
and your stance was so real! - "he's town, because..." still waiting to hear why you thought he was townIn post 1450, Titus wrote: Because he took no real major stance on Rb and coasted through the time.
vote titus ppl!
TL;DR: There was an attempt at a wagon o Gerry but it didn't gain traction.
First, because the people on it were open to moving to RB, and did so. So it never got further than three votes because people kept leaving instead of pushing it.
Second, those of us not on Gerry didn't want to join the wagon. RB I suppose was worried about looking worse for being opportunistic. I was stubbornly on Transcend. Titus's vote I have no idea about. LUV is kinda suspicious in note voting, and so is Impoetic whonever bloody votes.
So that's it. If there's scum on the Gerry wagon, they're caught between trying to push that wagon and being seen to be on the RB one.
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D7 is probably my strongest town read and he wants Titus. LUV has supposedly cleared me, and he wants Titus. SSBM made that interesting point yesterday about the Impoetic/Rabbit(Titus) interactions. I think that's where today has got to go.
I'd like to lynch within {Titus, Gerry, Sesq, Ironstove} today. Titus for the aforementioned stuff. Gerry because he was yesterday's second wagon which mysteriously never got anywhere. Ironstove for voting on Gerry's wagon, and then jumping over to vote *with* Gerry on RB's wagon. Sesq because of placement on the RB wagon and because of the interactions with Titus - I feel like that could be a bit of scum theatre.-
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I was hoping that posting after the mod would get me pagetop, since their post wasn't pagetop ... didn't think to actually count the posts and check what number we were up toIn post 1606, drealmerz7 wrote:
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In post 1619, Drone wrote:Is this why you wanted me to not out our private talk?
The only possible claim Titus can make now is town Neighbour btw.
So no need to wait for their claim at all.
Ooh, that's interesting, I've never played a game with neighbours before! From my understanding you get a private chat, but don't know each other's alignments, right?In post 1621, gerryoat wrote:could see one of shannon or drone being last maf with lil uzi. not sure which
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In post 1474, gerryoat wrote:if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.
This? Or was there more?In post 1484, gerryoat wrote:Calling BS on having a 1 shot Tracker when we already have a Joat. Also you didn't need to even claim, you only claimed so a lynch wouldnt form on you after he flipped scum.
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