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i guess it explains itself why its newIn post 19, MiniDeathStar wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker
The new meta is that whoever is trying to look scummy on purpose is probably actual scum.-
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Do you know whats funny ? this is actually a genuine townslip because i thought it was a micro game cause i entered one recently but theres no way in hell no one is going to even believe me and i did townslip first page which is somewhat hilarious. Will remember mention postgameIn post 23, Kairal wrote:
I assume Cloudkicker's d9 thing is just part of 'deliberately looking scummy'. Or is it a genuine slip? Would we typically expect 4 scum in this game size?In post 16, CloudKicker wrote:Lets start off by being a bit scummy or i wont get pushed by scum
Original Roll String: 1d9(STATIC) 1 9-Sided Dice: (6) = 6
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arent rvs by definition NAI ? Also from your little meta bullshit, i come from em and have little to no experience on this site. I claim scum as both alignement almost everygame just to break this kind of meta so just for you, i hardclaim scum wink winkIn post 30, MiniDeathStar wrote:
I don't think much of it. I think it's an established part of MafiaScum's culture to fos whoever is rolling dice in the RVS for making a genuinely random vote and denying town information with it. But like, he was rolling the dice to look scummy on purpose, which is what pinged me.In post 28, Secret Agent Jin wrote:MDS, what do you think of the D9 roll instead of D12 or 13?-
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You seriously think too highly of yourself if you believe an accurate of yours with 3 posts on mine, this is a 100% forced attempt to direct town onto town and your tone is off ladyIn post 39, MiniDeathStar wrote:Oh no Kairal, I wasn't talking about Cerbieber, the C I meant literally claimed scum and did obvious scummy things in some weird WIFOM attempt and it actually worked on me for a while, which is why I'm never falling for that trick again. CloudKilleris getting lunched today, no way out of that.
Question is, who's on the menu after that.
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@ Kairal because i assumed a 9 player setup, as mafia with night meeting 3 mafia with 9 players isnt in the normal guidelines or something, so i either did it on purpose or i townsliped, the later is what happened but obviously this shouldnt be used to read me cause it wouldve ben extremely easy to fake (but it wasnt)
@ Nah, you said i would get lunched today and theres no other way and thats considering the townslip. Also, its completely irrelevant to mention the last guy you fosed has C with his name but to further cast doubt on myself while implying theres some kind of relation here. Your whole post was really bad so is your last post, while you agree that you werent reasonable you still imply my rxn wasnt on point, which was btw because im town and theres absolutetly nothing wrong with my rxn-
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In post 51, MiniDeathStar wrote:I don't think my post was bad? I made a strong accusation to see how you'd react and if someone would follow.If you literally thought I accused you of being *related* to the other C, or expected me to lead an actual lynch on page 2, idk what to tell you.
lol wat, thats what youve been doing since the start of the game
As for your reaction, I don't think clinging onto your 'townslip' and inventing reasons to vote me is super town-indicative. ~shrug~In post 19, MiniDeathStar wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker
Thenew meta is that whoever is trying to look scummy on purpose is probably actual scum.[referencing a mafia in a past game for the 1st time]In post 22, MiniDeathStar wrote:I was being serious about Cloud though. Remember a fellow who claimed scum recently and turned out to be the real scum? Hint, their name also starts with C[referencing a mafia in a past game for the 1.5st time].
There's also this:
Sound like it's town? Because to me it doesn't sound like town would be a secret.In post 15, CloudKicker wrote:Hello, i fliped my favorite alignement :3 its a secret tho which one it isIn post 27, MiniDeathStar wrote:Thenew meta is to act scummy on purpose ("okay let's do something scummy now, haha hilarious right? ") in hopes people townread you for 'playing loose'. I can't be more specific than that atm but it's a trend I've noticed[referencing a mafia in a past game for the 2nd time]In post 30, MiniDeathStar wrote:
I don't think much of it. I think it's an established part of MafiaScum's culture to fos whoever is rolling dice in the RVS for making a genuinely random vote and denying town information with it. But like, he was rolling the dice to look scummy on purpose, which is what pinged me.In post 28, Secret Agent Jin wrote:MDS, what do you think of the D9 roll instead of D12 or 13?Okay post, still refering to past games and meta for the 3rd time
In post 39, MiniDeathStar wrote:Oh no Kairal, I wasn't talking about Cerbieber, the C I meant literally claimed scum and did obvious scummy things in some weird WIFOM attempt and it actually worked on me for a while[Refering my play to someone who did that with a letter starting with C, completly irrelevant], which is whyI'm never falling for that trick again[Implying i am doing the same thing C as mafia did, referencing my play to a mafia].CloudKilleris getting lunched today, no way out of that[You want me lynched for doing the same play you are implying i did with a mafia on your recent game].
Question is, who's on the menu after that.In post 49, MiniDeathStar wrote:Oh,I remember who accused me last game of thinking too highly of myself because I called them scum. That's right, the scum did.[
[referencing a mafia in a past game for the Nth time, again implying i am doing exactly what a mafia did ]
Relax, Cloud, I'mnot going to get you lynched[As if you had any power with this kind of terrible posts lel]this early and over 3 posts, but your reactiondoesn't exactly persuade me you're town[Still caliing me scum].-
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In post 58, MiniDeathStar wrote:Yes, Cloud, we get it, I called you scum and I still don't think you're town. Why are you repeating it?Like literally what was the purpose of that wall?
@culted:Not sure yet. I've played with Jin twice so far and from what I saw he's a bit weird/scummy in tone and playstyle so I can't read him until I've seen actual decisions from him.
Did you even read it ? I did that to prove you that i was right to think that ''you accused me of being *related* to the other C, or that i expected you to lead an actual lynch on me page 2". You realize that you are actually scumtelling and that its only page 3In post 51, MiniDeathStar wrote:I don't think my post was bad? I made a strong accusation to see how you'd react and if someone would follow.If you literally thought I accused you of being *related* to the other C, or expected me to lead an actual lynch on page 2, idk what to tell you.
As for your reaction, I don't think clinging onto your 'townslip' and inventing reasons to vote me is super town-indicative. ~shrug~-
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@Culted : i am mentoring on another mafia site, this line could be added to my book of tells about how this is a clear cut really really common pattern from mafia to answer this kind of question, it keeps everything opens and looks like game solving when its not, its just refusing to answerIn post 58, MiniDeathStar wrote:Yes, Cloud, we get it, I called you scum and I still don't think you're town. Why are you repeating it? Like literally what was the purpose of that wall?
@culted:Not sure yet. I've played with Jin twice so far and from what I saw he's a bit weird/scummy in tone and playstyle so I can't read him until I've seen actual decisions from him.-
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Absolutely not, i did answer on his post from my pov while mini's answer was not even jin related in anywayIn post 67, Kairal wrote:In post 59, CloudKicker wrote:@Culted what is there to read into, as a town with a lot of attention i expected some kind of chainsaw/coasty NAI posts from scum and his last could fit in these if aynthing but thats really nothing
Although... Cloud isn't your post on Jin functionally identical to Mini's? You both say he's sorta suss but we probably shouldn't make anything of it. Seems a bit odd to be calling her out for it.In post 64, CloudKicker wrote:
@Culted : i am mentoring on another mafia site, this line could be added to my book of tells about how this is a clear cut really really common pattern from mafia to answer this kind of question, it keeps everything opens and looks like game solving when its not, its just refusing to answerIn post 58, MiniDeathStar wrote:Yes, Cloud, we get it, I called you scum and I still don't think you're town. Why are you repeating it? Like literally what was the purpose of that wall?
@culted:Not sure yet. I've played with Jin twice so far and from what I saw he's a bit weird/scummy in tone and playstyle so I can't read him until I've seen actual decisions from him.-
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What im saying is that you used meta to scumread me, which should be fine but the way it was done was odd but this might just be the way you type. Im not going to push the idea that hardclaiming scum is NAI, i did for a purpose and it serves me fine as it is, im getting reads. And, i didnt try to make you look scummy by saying you scumtold, you did scumtold, i just pointed it out town scumtell too from time to timeIn post 65, MiniDeathStar wrote:Let me ELI5:
- I think you're scum because you claimed scum, and because you've been freaking out all over the place after I called you out on it
- The fact I *think* you're scum and I'm voting for you doesn't mean I'm asking everyone to sheep me on page 2; that I can probably forgive you since you said you're new here
- C is not related to you in any other way besides that he also claimed scum (and ultimately flipped scum); I mentioned his name to hint at the people who were in that game with me. Read the posts in context.
As a bonus, I find your forced attempts to make me look scummy eye-roll worthy (""actually scumtelling"", ""textbook mafia""). If that's the best you can do, just say I'm confscum to you and stop talking to me. You're clogging the thread and I literally don't care about your reads atm.
AgreedIn post 68, MiniDeathStar wrote:Kairal's town. Very transparent.
Unless he's pulling a Börk Börk on me, for which he should know I'd murder him post-game.
I dont need your opinion on something i know is a scumtellIn post 73, Flubbernugget wrote:
There's too little information for your tell to be validIn post 64, CloudKicker wrote:
@Culted : i am mentoring on another mafia site, this line could be added to my book of tells about how this is a clear cut really really common pattern from mafia to answer this kind of question, it keeps everything opens and looks like game solving when its not, its just refusing to answerIn post 58, MiniDeathStar wrote:Yes, Cloud, we get it, I called you scum and I still don't think you're town. Why are you repeating it? Like literally what was the purpose of that wall?
@culted:Not sure yet. I've played with Jin twice so far and from what I saw he's a bit weird/scummy in tone and playstyle so I can't read him until I've seen actual decisions from him.
In post 76, Flubbernugget wrote:Cloud kicker
You bring up the fact that you have town slipped several times.Why do you think that couldn't have been faked by scum?
Do you even read bro?In post 50, CloudKicker wrote:@ Kairal because i assumed a 9 player setup, as mafia with night meeting 3 mafia with 9 players isnt in the normal guidelines or something, so i either did it on purpose or i townsliped, the later is what happenedbut obviously this shouldnt be used to read me cause it wouldve ben extremely easy to fake (but it wasnt)
Like i said, dont use it to read me and claiming scum doesnt make me scum yknowIn post 79, HellloooNewman wrote:Man, that Cloud/MDS exchange was a lot to absorb first thing after waking up.
Unvote Culted
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You claim scum, I will vote you without hesitation. Not to mention the overly forced "TOWNSLIP!! I MADE A TOWNSLIP GUYS!!! HEY, DIDJA SEE MY TOWNSLIP?!?"
That was for the kind of you HellllooooIn post 44, CloudKicker wrote:''i dont believe the townslip, hes scum and forced a townslip '' incoming
Nah its AIIn post 81, Io wrote:What did I just read?
No seriously what in Hell is going on right now?
OK, where to start.
How about addressing the scum claim. If someone claims scum day 1 or really outside of an investigative check assume it's a joke. It means nothing as no one would game throw that hard and not just out their scum buddies.
Second cloud's handeling of the scum read on them was pretty bad[nah it wasnt], but if you think about if for more than a second you can see what Cloud was saying. It boils down to this, scum would know that it can't be a 9 player game if there were 3 of them (this argument is invalid if we have 2 Mafia and a SK/Arso) outside of that it's a fair assumption there is probably 3 Mafia, town who decided to not read the setup could possibly say 9 instead of 13. Hence why Cloud said lying scum or townslip. Though if it turns out to be an SK game it can easily have been a scum slip too as Mafia should only have 2 members with and SK I think.
-reguardless the argument that Cloud was part of a 4 Mafia team because of the die is pretty much one of the stupidest points I ever saw.
While cloud is right Mini seems to be talking a lot about what scum doI don't really think that is AI in particular at this point.
Are we, your answer was the most general read and felt scum but i might be wrongIn post 88, MiniDeathStar wrote:
Holy misrepresentation Batman. I was literally giving my meta on Jin. I have two games with him where I read him correctly despite his eccentric style, but it took me some time. Like are we even reading the same thing here?CloudKiller wrote:Absolutely not, i did answer on his post from my pov while mini's answer was not even jin related in anyway
Congratz on not being able to read into a town rxnIn post 89, -Grey- wrote:
I'm not sheeping your read. CK's response to your accusation was grade a bullshit.In post 80, MiniDeathStar wrote:Anddd my reads are being sheeped again. Lovely.
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Another read you guys wont buy but ill out it anyway, if flub is mefia he scumsliped cleared me there.In post 76, Flubbernugget wrote:Cloud kicker
You bring up the fact that you have town slipped several times. Why do you think that couldn't have been fakedby scum?
A town to town conversation would go like ''Why do you think that couldn't have been faked?'' or ''Why do you think that you couldn't have faked it?''
A scum to town conversation scumsliping "Why do you think that couldn't have been faked by scum?" implying that scum would be outside me even tho hes talking directly to me. Like saying : Why dont you thing that mafia could have done the same you did (implying as town)?
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Is anyone actually reading this game, i did not point it not, black swan didIn post 94, massive wrote:
It's generally less good if you have to point out your own town slips.In post 44, CloudKicker wrote:''i dont believe the townslip, hes scum and forced a townslip '' incoming-
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thereIn post 23, Kairal wrote:
I assume Cloudkicker's d9 thing is just part of 'deliberately looking scummy'.In post 16, CloudKicker wrote:Lets start off by being a bit scummy or i wont get pushed by scum
Original Roll String: 1d9(STATIC) 1 9-Sided Dice: (6) = 6
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hello old neighborOr is it a genuine slip?Would we typically expect 4 scum in this game size?-
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Youre not really good at the game if your threshold for townreading someone is much higher than the level of town content i showedIn post 93, -Grey- wrote:
Everything you've said could have easily come from scum, nice try.In post 90, CloudKicker wrote:Congratz on not being able to read into a town rxn-
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actually ure right, i assumed townslip cause yknow, im townIn post 102, -Grey- wrote:
He's speculating about aIn post 97, CloudKicker wrote:
thereIn post 23, Kairal wrote:
I assume Cloudkicker's d9 thing is just part of 'deliberately looking scummy'.In post 16, CloudKicker wrote:Lets start off by being a bit scummy or i wont get pushed by scum
Original Roll String: 1d9(STATIC) 1 9-Sided Dice: (6) = 6
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hello old neighborOr is it a genuine slip?Would we typically expect 4 scum in this game size?scumslip there, not a townslip.
As in, knowledge of the scum team size.
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Its not bad play, i thought mafiascum player would be better than the average joe on epicmafia, apprently not so much. Everyone is so preoccupied about mafia faking slips and such, town does slips much more often than scum does, now disregarding that. @Aj just cause i havent outed all of my reads doesnt mean im not proccupied about the states of others, i have currently 1 tr and 3 foses, 2 i havent outed because im waiting for more content
@grey, my scumslip read was just a gut read on the spot, thats all considering flub is scum and i wasnt trying to defend myself from it, just show my traith of thoughts. Now call this wifom, but i believe im good at the game. I like to get attention to me but my that amount isnt heantlhy for either alignement. You can bet your ass that mafia wouldnt put themselves on the spotlight so hard and so fast, antagonizing half the town. Mafia knows im town and that i am towntelling, town is just too fucking paranoid to agree on-
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The townslip arguement is that as mafia, i wouldve checked the night meetting before posting there, knowing theres at least 3 mafia. 3 mafias cant be in a 9 person setup, so me thinking i was in a micro game is implying i couldnt have the information that theres 3 mafia, which is an information that mafia should already have, thats why its a townslipIn post 119, Kairal wrote:Perhaps I should clarify the die thing. I did indeed read that as a scumslip not a townslip. However that was based on two wrong assumptions. Firstly I thought the roller was just a standard 1-9 roller. I didn't realize it was linked to the forum (i.e. I assumed he'd just manually skip over anyone who was a scum buddy). Secondly I thought 4 mafia might be possible in this game size. A few people have chimed in to correct me on both these points. It is now clear that it couldn't have been a scumslip and anyone familiar with the roller or the normal number of scum in the game would know that.
I don't buy it being a townslip though - it just indicates that he most recently played a micro game.
Anyway what's interesting to me is that Jin suggested that there could be something more to it. Is Jin as inexperienced as I am? Or was he trying to run with a newbie's mistake to get someone lynched? Lets move over to Jin and find out
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She hasnt posted and mini isnt there, so im generating content myselfIn post 114, CloudKicker wrote:Its not bad play, i thought mafiascum player would be better than the average joe on epicmafia, apprently not so much. Everyone is so preoccupied about mafia faking slips and such, town does slips much more often than scum does, now disregarding that. @Aj just cause i havent outed all of my reads doesnt mean im not proccupied about the states of others,i have currently 1 tr and 3 foses, 2 i havent outed because im waiting for more content
@grey, my scumslip read was just a gut read on the spot, thats all considering flub is scum and i wasnt trying to defend myself from it, just show my traith of thoughts. Now call this wifom, but i believe im good at the game. I like to get attention to me but my that amount isnt heantlhy for either alignement. You can bet your ass that mafia wouldnt put themselves on the spotlight so hard and so fast, antagonizing half the town. Mafia knows im town and that i am towntelling, town is just too fucking paranoid to agree on-
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Nah hes saying i faked the townslip, it has nothing to do with your original idea of the scumslip since it cannot be a scumslip. Theres only 2 options, i faked it as either alignement or it was a genuine townslip. That guy fosed me forcing a townslip, aka faking it, not because he thought i scumsliped with your logic-
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More like, im playing for my wincon the way i want, i dont really care if you fos me but dont call say im playing bad town. At the end of the day, ill vote for scum and you might notIn post 144, Flubbernugget wrote:114 leads me to believe cloudkicker is more concerned with being self-congratulatory than actually trying to prove they are town-
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Not yetIn post 146, Kairal wrote:Anyway Cloud mind elaborating on why you have FoS on IO? I don't see anything off about either of her posts-
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Hes talking about jin's read on me, saying that my play is too obnoxious to be mafia, but i am mafia for it because im too obnoxious to be mafia super wifom 360 no scopeIn post 145, Kairal wrote:
By 'his' in this post you mean Grey's read that AJ is scum partner? That seems to be the case but you could also be referring to a cloud read on AJ I'm not seeing.In post 142, Flubbernugget wrote:Honestly if cloud flipped scum I could see his read on you making sense-
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Buddy me more, i wont unvote and i didnt scumread you for the names, i scumread you for your abysmall 2-3 first pages of the game + you antagonizing me, not the names. I told you what would happen and you did it anyway you know im town, town doesnt lie, i wouldnt go over my words because i dont want to lie and be scummy-
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CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
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- Jack of All Trades
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- Joined: October 16, 2016
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CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
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- Jack of All Trades
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CloudKicker Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8835
- Joined: October 16, 2016