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VOTE: fitzIn post 1185, havingfitz wrote:VOTE: Kop
I almost voted imp for the link to DRK (the potential signalling). But on second thought...since scum would have been on the lookout for a traitor (yes... I finally read the DRK flip)...the "signal" to imp may have been just as effective to watchful scum if imp was town...while at the same time not implicating the actual scum team.
Still suspect imp as DRK vote was guilty driven....but hesitant enough to prefer alternative.
One...hard not ad homing you so I'll just ignore you. Smh....
I am impressed you managed to make a post this scummy-
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hans*In post 1191, Eddie Cane wrote:it's nonsensical, omgus's your town read, fency af, you still haven't answered your opinion of fitz itg-
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nonsensical, as in confusing, hard to understandIn post 1197, havingfitz wrote:
How is it nonsensical?In post 1191, Eddie Cane wrote:it's nonsensical, omgus's your town read, fency af, you still haven't answered your opinion of fitz itg
Town reads can be idiots. Can suspect you. Ex... I town read TwoFace.
And of course it's fency. I still suspect imp.
I've given my opinion of Hans. You want specific thoughts on his content this game. I haven't got to that yet. This game isn't my life's priority atm. I'll still do it when I can despite One being pants on head.-
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because fitz fitz as a partner with pretty much everyone in my lynch pile, and impo has been less completely awful than fitz today. fitz's post that I voted him for sold me on it. he has still neglected to even talk about hans itg, it's pretty much a manufactured towmread that mag be buddying and may be partner.In post 1226, Oneironaut wrote:
Why not voting implosion?In post 1172, Eddie Cane wrote:i think rn my order is impo > hans > horror > fitz > kop. it's really hard to ignore impo x drk, but I'm hesitant to lynch largely off a traitor-
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YOU SAID you'd do it. now you're refusing because "lol meta town but replacement scum reads me so they can get mislynched"In post 1152, havingfitz wrote:
I'll tackle this asap. Might be tomorrow. Tied up most of rest of today.In post 1144, Eddie Cane wrote:what's your opinion of hans content wrt this game?
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In post 1143, havingfitz wrote:
Not above stating my town read and not voting him.In post 1141, Eddie Cane wrote:so to be clear, you think hans is town but aren't interested in defending him?-
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In post 1212, havingfitz wrote:^ You're painfully bad 2F (as town). That =/= scum though so I hope my read on you is right.
Do you get into misguided tunneling shit shows in all your games? How can that be any fun for you? smh...
Here's the deal. I'm not going to the trouble of defending my meta read on Hans when he's been replaced by ______ One and for the sake of a scum read and someone who is terrible as town.
If there's anyone not on my wagon that doesn't like that response and would prefer a mislynch...hammer away.
I'm town btw.-
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?In post 1261, Eddie Cane wrote:In post 1212, havingfitz wrote:^ You're painfully bad 2F (as town). That =/= scum though so I hope my read on you is right.
Do you get into misguided tunneling shit shows in all your games? How can that be any fun for you? smh...
Here's the deal. I'm not going to the trouble of defending my meta read on Hans when he's been replaced by ______ One and for the sake of a scum read and someone who is terrible as town.
If there's anyone not on my wagon that doesn't like that response and would prefer a mislynch...hammer away.
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In post 1255, Eddie Cane wrote:
YOU SAID you'd do it. now you're refusing because "lol meta town but replacement scum reads me so they can get mislynched"In post 1152, havingfitz wrote:
I'll tackle this asap. Might be tomorrow. Tied up most of rest of today.In post 1144, Eddie Cane wrote:what's your opinion of hans content wrt this game?
While I'm at it...I'd ask the same of you.In post 1256, havingfitz wrote:
Where did I say this?In post 1255, Eddie Cane wrote:but replacement scum reads me so they can get mislynchedIn post 1258, Eddie Cane wrote:In post 1143, havingfitz wrote:
Not above stating my town read and not voting him.In post 1141, Eddie Cane wrote:so to be clear, you think hans is town but aren't interested in defending him?In post 1259, havingfitz wrote:
?In post 1258, Eddie Cane wrote:In post 1143, havingfitz wrote:
Not above stating my town read and not voting him.In post 1141, Eddie Cane wrote:so to be clear, you think hans is town but aren't interested in defending him?
and he disappears. that's scum progression.In post 1261, Eddie Cane wrote:In post 1212, havingfitz wrote:^ You're painfully bad 2F (as town). That =/= scum though so I hope my read on you is right.
Do you get into misguided tunneling shit shows in all your games? How can that be any fun for you? smh...
Here's the deal. I'm not going to the trouble of defending my meta read on Hans when he's been replaced by ______ One and for the sake of a scum read and someone who is terrible as town.
If there's anyone not on my wagon that doesn't like that response and would prefer a mislynch...hammer away.
I'm town btw.-
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oh, I soft stuff as vt too, I just like fucking with scumIn post 1300, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:you soft every game? Eddie lover confirmed
pedit: 2f I was joking
I like you; you're a cool dude but not a cooldog nah we lynch those
ALSO I'm a great shot usually ://:-
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this game is too severe. I can see scum!kop and if horror or fitz or implo or ONE!!!(STOP IGNORING HIM) start actually acting town a lol lynch could happenIn post 1302, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:So if we're agreeing not to do a kop wagon this game, that means we're looking at horror, fitz and implo-
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fitz disappeared at a very convenient time and he's openly said he won't argue against his townreads lynch. he's pretty much doing nothing too.In post 1311, IAlwaysWinSometimes wrote:Eddie the issue is is that kop and one and horror are basically not doing talking too much. Implo has actually been scumhunting with us and fitz is kinda doing his own thing lmao-
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In post 1333, Oneironaut wrote:Weird.
In post 612, Kop wrote:Sorry it's been some time since replacing in, and not posting. Not fully up to date just now, but from what I've seen, this is pinging my attention right now.
VOTE: IalwaysWinSometimes
I don't like his idea of wanting to direct Wheme on where to go, I can understand the logic behind it all, but it creates far too much WIFOM and it could create a lot more problems by doing so. It also strikes me as trying far too hard to be pro town and wanting to look good in the process, like he's actively looking for scum.In post 613, Kop wrote:
This is a good point towards the whole directing topic.In post 585, horrordude0215 wrote:If you direct the fruit vendor shot, it can become an obvious NK chance for scum if Wheme is town which just leads to WIFOM galore. Comprehension is cool.
Wheme should make the choice as to where he sends it, and his alone. Any directing puts us in WIFOM territory, and only scum from my experience will want it directing. And this is based on a town fruit vendor, this isn't taken in any account of the scum versions.
Right now, fruit vendor claim shouldn't be any priority right now. Only comes priority when numbers have died down, and he's still alive, scum don't want any confirms when numbers are getting smaller.
The Kop case against IAWS seems weak and contrived.In post 617, Kop wrote:I can see your logic but it's not a logic I'd use as town. Only scum want things directing as they don't want town confirms. By directing it they can passively control any possible outcomes.
I mean hell, it's discussion about directing a fruit vendor.
A person who gives out fruit.
I can understand not wanting anyone to direct a cop, or protective role, etc, but making up a case based solely on fruit chatter??
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elaborate what? am I supposed got ale "devil akin to scum" seriously?In post 1358, havingfitz wrote:
Nice dismissiveness/defensiveness calling content hilarious. Please elaborate.In post 1356, Eddie Cane wrote:I can chalk a lot up to omgus but this is hilarious
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oh my god you suck conversing with you is painful zzzIn post 1366, havingfitz wrote:@Eddie...
Regardless of your alignment I understand you would not be receptive to any comments meant to incriminate or shade you.
I do think as town though you would just call the "speak of the devil" mention as being a stupid suggestion or just flat out say something "akin" to "no...you would be wrong." As scum I think you are more likely to act the way you have. Casually dismissing it as a humorous...not worth consideration comment.
As for the omgus comment. You make no mention of omgus when you vote me. And a few posts prior to voting me you actually had me listed 4th behind "imp > hans > horror." And between this listing and your vote I only made one post (my vote on Kop) which did not even mention you.
That doesn't add up to an omgus vote. Maybe a chainsaw vote?
What are your current thoughts on Kop?
Where is the omgus origins for your vote against me? That apparently weren't strong enough just 13 hours earlier to make me no better than 4th for you? Especially when imp was at 2 votes when you voted me and hans/One was at one? So two people you suspected more than me actually had wagons in play.
I legitimately have no clue what you're trying to say with the first two sections
I didn't vote you for omgus. that's a dtatement. what's so hard to understand? i may not have said omgus literally but I'm p sure if insulted your posts lots of times.
YOU were listed after them. then you made an awful post and continued to slide. you were the only one active, so the only one worth pressuring, and you responded to the pressuring by flailing and nitpicking like you're still doing. like, you attacked one specific line I said, edgily replied with a question mark, and disappeared after I posted. you keep dodging shit and all around ignoring lots of the game. fuck, you voted someone and then said you didn't read their content. that's not pro town. you have refused time and time again to look at hans in this game even though you said you would, and again, said you'd let his replacement get mislynched. that is not pro town.
my current thoughts on kop? maybe if you read the game you'd know because that was a /recent/ discussion-
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I'm not gonna reply to every piece of bullshit in that wall of awfulness but I just can't ignore these two
"#1035 unvotes DRK following DRK miller claim and #1063 asks for people to take it slow. LAMIST? Hoping tides change away from DRK? Why did you vote DRK in #805 Eddie? Distancing? Bussing?"
hey buddy. if I'm scum I wouldn't have known drk was traitor. additionally, I unvoted because I didn't want a self hammer and multiple of my town reads asked as much. how can you be on the site for 7 years and have /this/ much confbias? hint: you can't and you're scum.
"#985...Eddie getting into it with Stone Cold. That explains the Stone Cold NK...right Eddie?"
the fuck does this even mean? stone cold hasn't even expressed a scum read on me and had multiple people on line to lynch before me... this straight up makes no sense.
if youre town this is literally the /best/ example of confbias ive seen on ms. bravo. stop flailing and enjoy burning.-
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In post 1185, havingfitz wrote:VOTE: Kop
I almost voted imp for the link to DRK (the potential signalling). But on second thought...since scum would have been on the lookout for a traitor (yes... I finally read the DRK flip)...the "signal" to imp may have been just as effective to watchful scum if imp was town...while at the same time not implicating the actual scum team.
Still suspect imp as DRK vote was guilty driven....but hesitant enough to prefer alternative.
One...hard not ad homing you so I'll just ignore you. Smh....
you literally said you'd look into kop later after you voted himIn post 1340, havingfitz wrote:Pine/Kop:
Pine was pretty much a non entity this game and he seems to have site flaked...so I do not think his lack of presence in this game is AI.
So Kop...as I mentioned in one of my catch up posts, I didn't care for his lazy vote on IAWS D1. He chose to put IAWS at 3 votes while completely ignoring/commenting on the most popular wagon...CoolDog. And aside from the vote his first to posts seem to be focused entirely or directing fruit. IAWS calls Kop out with a good point for his understanding the logic but still voting it disconnect.
Kop has 3 posts D1 and then doesn't appear again until D3 (9 RL days later).
In Post 1107 Kop points to buddying between DRK and imp. While I'm not sure the posts show a lot of buddy...the last DRK post he quotes (390) looks a bit buddyish and actually looks a bit incriminating towards imp. He ends this post stating his vote preference is between imp and me though he provides no reasons for considering me.
1108, 1109 and 1111 don't really provide much. Just cop theory and an imp vote.
D2 was Apr 6th @ 6:62pm EST to Apr 8th @ 11:34pm EST. Kop made no posts on the site between those hours.
I've played a few games with Kop and I've been pretty good about reading him. He is very inactive and gets a lot of heat for that. So his presence in this game is NAI for me as well.
What I don't like, as mentioned above, was his lazy vote on IAWS (who iirc I was leaning town on att) and a bunch of theory talk. I actually did like his effort towards imp though...in particular his find of DRK's 390.
So my SR on Kop is definitely weak...in previous games where I have tr him I've stated I did not think he was the right lynch but I'm not getting that feeling here. Despite that...
UNVOTE: Kop for the time being.
On to Eddie and to have a look over DRK.
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@ mod- Kop and Wheme are both due prods.
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if you read through the iso virtually everything is cherrypicked and wrong. for example, he calls me on my kop read by quoting my post that was about kop not being partners with fitzIn post 1416, TwoFace wrote:Why is this in your iso of eddie?
I can probably pick out 10 more posts that shouldn't be included, but seriously why is this one?-
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lol @ your argument being "I suck but that doesn't mean I'm necessarily scum"In post 1502, havingfitz wrote:
There are not absolutes in mafia until the flip. More shit TwoFace logic.In post 1478, TwoFace wrote:That is why you HAVE to be scum. No town should ever completely ignore game content in lieu of weak meta