Mini 52 - Gamersville (IT IS FINISHED)

[Yanqush]

Whats this bandwagoning of CurtainDog?
yes, i know PBug didn't bold his vote, but really, the intend was there.
And if PBug was reallly paranoid, then as Stewie said, how do we know how accurate his "investigations" are?

FOS: PBug and Norinel

for now

Also as Talitha said, no point in voting PBug since if he is still around tomorrow, we'll lynch him anyway.

Electra, plz don't insult my name, i don't make comments about yours (then again, i dont take offence, just dont do it again )

[Yanqush]

*:shock: woo... this is going too fast for me.....*
anyway....
Norinel - i guess you are right.

um... so do we have a pair of
cop twins, a mafia/cop or gd cop/corrupt cop?
we know rite is a cop.... although it doesnt say whether he is gd cop or bad cop, but he is a cop.....

Electra - does ur role mean you hav to vote for a particular person everyday, or that its only today, or you dont know....?

Also, agree with Stewie..... this is confusing....

[Yanqush]

Norinel- i said you were bandwagoning um... CD, you then pointed out that yours is a random vote and proceeded to unvote him, i said i guess you were right as acknowlegement about you not bandwagoing CD after all... basically, nothing... haha sorry about confusing you

um.. question, dont paranoid cops return only 1 verdict of "guilty"?
are insane cops the same?, or do they return a opposite verdict to the real result i.e. return guilty when innocent and vice versa

also, how would we fine out if PBug is sane or not even if he dies?,we didnt fine out if rite was in/sane...(or did i miss something?)

If [Person 2] is killed and I got him/her as good, I am sane.

How do you know who this [Person 2] is?
i mean unless you know who is being targeted, otherwise there is noway you can know and investigate(assuming you can investigate)....
Also, this twin business, so PBug, you will not commmit sucide tonight?


CRiX.... are you alive?, if so, stop lurking....

[Yanqush]

Obviously Tigris don't want a member of the mafia to come along and pretend to "accidentally" put the last lynching vote in. He would not last the next day if it turns out that CRiX is innocent, but anyway, we do not want that to happen.

Hmmm.. at this stage I have more people on my "suspicious" list than I do on my "probably OK" list.

just shows that you are paranoid......
or that you are out numbered.... and that everyone is evil....
(think "the driver who thinks everyone else is driving down the wrong side of the highway")

[Yanqush]

OK, here is what i think is happening/happened so far
(correct me if i m wrong)

Once upon a time there is Copsville (as Stewie nicely puts it )
And in no partcular order:

• We found 1 cop dead (rite)
  
• Pbug claim to be twin of rite and that he will die tonight(commit sucide)
  
• PBug correcting his claim to be twin of mafiso (sth like that) and that he will not died tonight
  
• Electra must vote on a random "target" during the day
  
• PBug says that he investigated CurtianDog last night and that he is guilty
  
• Big argument about whether PBug is insane or not
  
• Argument come to a standstill, general agreement (kind of) to wait until tomorrow
  
• CRiX still not spoken much, and somehow got bandwagoned once
  
• CRiX comes out and bandwagon is off, then came back on him
  
• CRiX claims to be backup cop

now IMHO.... someone is pushing the town's votes all over the place, first on CD now on CRiX, with kind of baseless FOSs....

[Yanqush]

Norinel: Yes, i admit, i made a mistake about the CD bandwagoning thing, since Your vote was just a random one, but i did retract it on my next message when i realised that.
As to the CRiX business, i didnt vote because i havnt voted at all....

Also, yes, i m trying to influence the town..... since I have my own suspicions
Talitha: The main point of that is baseless fos..... not any fos..... don't twist my words. Its not like i dont encourage conversations
And arnt you a bit zealous as to getting the day over and done with? and yes, i'll make this suspicion explicit
FOS: Talitha

[Yanqush]

Talitha: just because i don't post lots of messages don't mean i don't encourage conversation, and although you quoted my words exactly, its not meant in the way you stated, therefore you have twisted my meaning. And in case no one noticed, that was actually a subtle fos against you.
Its very

convenient

to claim to have misinterpreted when in fact you are just changing your tack right?

Yes I'd like to see the day over, cos this is my first game and I want to see some action

What do you mean by "action"? you want to see more killings?, at least CD have a reason to see that next day come around.
This is my first game as well, and I want to hang a mafia, not just see some action.

[Yanqush]

Talitha: Yes, my fos against you don't exactly have the evidentual backing and that it was bases on you changing you mind often, but thats why its a fos, not a vote.
As to you changing tack often, there is technicially nothing wrong with that, since we are all human and we change our minds, but if you do change too often, its confusing makes it nearly impossible to tell if you are telling the truth or not. As a result, i tend to take the cautious side.

And welcome Kerplunk, i think you have just brought some life into this town

[Yanqush]

Talitha: No, english is not my first language. Excuse any grammatical errors btw, I live in Auckland

I'll like to remind that there is also a claim by CRiX to be backup cop.
so if both PBuG and CRiX speaks the truth, then there would be THREE cops in this game. Now that to me don't sound right.......

[Yanqush]

Goodbye Talitha, see you tomorrow, or if you get enough votes.....

*re-reading the tread trying to find ideas......*

Norinel: Do you support Kerplunk? You seem to defend him a lot, even to the point that you never make any assumption that he can be mafia at all.

PBuG, do you know your sanity? I wouldn't be too surprised if one of the twin cops was sane and the other insane, or some other nifty connection thing like that.

Your brother's name is Mafioso, but he is a cop? That's odd.

The sane/insane thing was something I suggested as a possibility when we thought it was a cop/cop pair.

Why do you assume that Kerplunk(PBuG) is a cop based only on what he said again and again?, do you know something that we dont know about?

Hmm, from a deathcount standpoint, it'd be just a little bit worse a no-lynch today, a night with a death tonight, and then lynching scum. (Since docs couldn't protect successfully, and pro-town roles wouldn't get the action) That said, I'd rather not lynch someone who I don't find particularly suspicious without his consent.

Here you are defending Kerplunk again.

minor FOS in addition to other stuff against you: CD Dismissing a cop with a guilty result on you as a distraction is a bit odd.

Here "cooking" CD as well as again assuming Kerplunk is cop.

Yeah, things do seem a bit cop-heavy, but I'm kind of inclined to believe CRiX. (Is the two uppercase consonants, lowercase vowel, uppercase consonant thing just a coincidence?)

I do have a question for him, though: When would you start cop duty? When any cop dies? When one particular cop dies? When all the cops die?

But on the other hand questioning this backup cop like there is no tomorrow

Plus, trying to start an argument against me in which i already explained myself when i hinted that i know who is leading the town round in circles.
and unvoting me only because

since it doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere

Everytime this Kerplunk business comes up, you defend him based only on his words... and only his words.
Maybe you are just cop obsessed, but i incline to believe otherwise.....
therefore I

vote: Norinel

[Yanqush]

Maybe the mod is busy....

Kerplunk... 1) my name is Yanqush.... its a q.... a Q ok?....
2) i m or was voting Norinel was because he is DEFENDING someone....
i mean what is he?... another cop with extra info? don't think so.... if not a cop, then how can he defend without question right from the start?
may be its just my intellegence, but to me it makes no sense.......

[Yanqush]

um...... Kerplunk is still here......
i better re-assess my viewpoint.......
i guess my current the suspicions will fall on the people that voted for Talitha which are=> Dourgrim, CurtainDog and Stewie of which Dourgrim is already dead..... um........
As to my view on Norinel.... i'll leave that aside for now.
Hey Electra, who do you have to vote today??

[Yanqush]

CD's roleclaim sounds a bit shaky, but i m incline to believe it..... for now.
Regarding CRiX, i also find it suspicious that he investigated Kerplunk....

but really, what i want to know is what does the nurse do...backup doctor?

[Yanqush]

no, no, blackhawk is replacing CRiX, therefore, we still hav 3 claimed cops.
Still, that to me seems too much.... i mean, surely if there are 3 cops, there will be like 3 or 4 mafia? since 3 cops and 2 doc is pretty protown. unless a cop is a mafa as well..... haha

Me?... yeah, role is on the list..... mind you, even plain townies are on the list.... so, Stewie, your role is on the list too... hahahah

Anyway, i dont agree with lynching someone by CD, since it is kinda dumb, because there is no chance a mafia will let themselves be the "target" that we suggest, and if no mafia is the target, i find that a bit useless in killing anyone just to find out if CD is telling the truth or not. If we want to know, we either a) believe him, or b) disbelieve him and lynch him.....

Oh yeah, thx blackhawk and SF for filling in~~~....

[Yanqush]

since it seems to be the general consesus to do this then i will

vote: CD
unvote:CD

just hope that CD is not evil........

[Yanqush]

haha... yeah i agree Tigris... where is my "u"?..
anyway....
I am sorry stewie, but i dont recall having a partner....(since when are political positions ran in tandem?) and as a result don't see how you can't be lynched.
so before i vote for you, what other last ditch defence have you got to say for yourself? (and no, unvoting me is not going to work)

your message before the last (the one with "evil rules") sealed your fate.

[Yanqush]

yes, i m the politician(with limited vote buying rights)
and Stewie stop making me look bad, in no way am i affilated with Stewie.
goodbye

vote: Stewie

and SF... stop trying to get the rest of them to unvote Stewie
coz AM NOT EVIL
Why else did i buy your vote? (i might be wrong of coz)

*crosses my fingers and hope that stewie is indeed evil*

[Yanqush]

Well.... i can't buy electra's vote since i already used it buying SF to vote for stewie

[Yanqush]

Um.... now this is interesting..... our mafia friend decide not to kill any of us.......
or do we Have a role blocker?.... certianly not another doctor?
and who is this old man?...

[Yanqush]

Agree with lynching SF first, since Electra has no voting rights, and if she is indeed mafia, then i m sure we could deal with her tomorrow.

SF Really, this role claim about being a deputy is really well..... don't sound right, since we already have a backup-cop in the form of blackhawk. AT first i doubt myself at thinking you are mafia, but now, i am incline to believe that you are mafia.

I'll vote for SF next time i post.

[Yanqush]

I was thinking which vote to buy between Stewie, who has a guilty verdict from a dead cop and Shady, who i thought was a bit um.... too pro-town in the way be posted(lets just sy a baseless hunch). In the end i settled for Stewie, who i thought was a safer bet.

um.... is this indeed copsville?... (who started that?, i forgot.)

i said i'll vote for sf next time i post

vote: SF

but in the light of these new info, i think i need a rethink before deciding

unvote: SF

and somehow i believe tigris, so for me, its a weight up between norinel and Shadyforce

Electra, do you just get a name of a person that you have to vote for?, or are there a accompany msg/ story?

[Yanqush]

correction, needed 4 votes to lynch yesterday.

[Yanqush]

I suppose that althought yesterday required 4 votes to lynch, if a side has 3 votes, then there is a good chance to either convince a townie or run the clock down by having a stand off.

If Electra is mafia, then i believe Shady is, but if he is not, then atm i believe Norinel is.
but somehow lynching Electra seems..... well, not the best optioin.

There is also the case of Shady and Norinel both mafia, and they by being at each others throat, and by lynching one, it confirms the other's innocence, and the next they we will all believe that electra is the last mafia and lynch her then mafia win..... Since they are both riding on the cop wave, it seems that there is more to what they are claiming.............
um...

[Yanqush]

gd point about game over if Shady and Norinel are both mafia.... haha

Geez, handing the ball to me?
i guess i'll go.......................

Vote: Norinel

Partially because he started to help kerplunk who revealed himself as a sibling, and taking that as the truth on the first day when we are all suscipious (seems to me that he new that there is a sibling role, and the most likely way he knew was being told by CD).
Partially the point Tigris made about duplicated roles.

Funny enough, the argument with him on the first day has nothing to do with it.

[Yanqush]

blah!

*decays~~~*

[Yanqush]

Well.... first of all, thanks discer, for modding the game, it was FUN~

The idea of 4 mafia never quite reached my mind until like day 3 and was not convinced of it until day 4...

just a thought though, did you picked who electra is to vote or was it completely random?

and yay, go town.... haha

[Yanqush]

@Tigris haha.... my calmness came from the fact that i dont know who to believe..... and don't know what to do i.e. newbie-ness but thank sfor the compliment.... i think that your analysis of the situation in day3 actually changed my view on shady who i thought was scum
lucky you slapped the silliness out of me...


@Norinel and Electra, thanks for believing that my vote was a one-shot (it worked. ) too bad i didnt get to vote a second time..... it was a great game that you guys played real well for the first half, and as discer said, if not for the luck that Tigris was out of town, scum would of won.