Mini 113:Peril in Per-Djehuty (Game Over)

[Narninian]

I'm here and I don't feel like random voting right now

[Narninian]

It's truly a shame that the doc came out - I'm hoping that the no -self protection bit was a lie to make mafia waste a night kill tonight. My forum troubles are over now - and I will be able to post with not problems - it was a combination of cache( I knew enough to realize that was the problem) and internet connection issues.

[Narninian]

I would be interested in hearing from Mlaker - he seems quite nervous with only 2 votes - I dont get a wholesome vibe.

VOTE: Mlaker

[Narninian]

of course everyone who claims will be claiming as an innocent..... does anybody have something that could support his claim (being a 'brother')?

[Narninian]

Unvote: Mlaker

Im satisfied enough with reactions to believe him.

[Narninian]

I really dont know where to go with this...

[Narninian]

When mlaker claimed his mason-brother role, Narninian asked for anyone with information to support mlaker's role claim. Any pro-town player ought to know better than to ask innocents to identify themselves as easy targets and to stand still while sights are focussed on them. Like shooting fish in a barrel - is that what you want?

FOS: Narninian

Any Pro-town would not want innocents to spotanouesly role claim - yes this is true. The mafia WILL kill a pro-town player at night (well - they might take out another evil party if there are multiples) -- so they have an infinite choice of targets. THe most useful ability for a mason (that I've seen in the past) is to provide the town with 2 confirmed innocents. Right now we don't have any confirmed innocents. The only thing that would allow us to have confirmed innocents is for a brother to claim (proving mlaker to be telling the truth) or to wait for mafia to kill mlaker at night(since they would know he is probably telling the truth if he is). I

[Narninian]

I didnt look at it like that - yes that is true - narrowing the field down is bad.

I do however feel that perhaps tommorow the other mason should come out - as we have no way of knowing whether or not the claim is truthful.

[Narninian]

We can;t be sure that one of MeMe and gashly is scum...

The only thing that is likley is that if MeMe is scum gashly isnt, but they could be both innocent or one of them could be scum.

[Narninian]

I dont think we should lynch meme --- I dont know who to lynch though -- there seems to be too many suspicious people to narrow it down as to who to lynch. Joining the Meme bandwagon seems easy at this point - Deadline looming and deliberate lurking, but I dont think it is as easy as that.

[Narninian]

I would normally find Bluesin a little suspicious (using MeMe's logic) but I often find bluesin suspcious when he really isnt - its just his way of playing.

[Narninian]

I just want to know I'm here, not sure what to think about the night's events.

We have Fuldu - a cop.
MeMe - a newbie cop - which I believe to be innocent.
if meme is innocent, that means that Fuldu's partner is a serial killer or vigilante.

I'm getting too old for this s***

[Narninian]

072246

Fuldu: Cop looking for somebody
Maverick: Mafia
DP: Vig


Argoti: Claimed as doc - Protected bluesin night 1 MeMe night 2
mlaker: Looking for Mason partner, found 'all' his brothers last night - not sure how many
MeMe: Newbie Cop -claimed found 2 innocent and suspect her sanity(cop)


So fuldu was looking for somebody and found him then he got stabbed - Mlaker was looking for somebody and found him - Slight FOS: Mlaker.

I think meme is telling the truth - but as a newbie cop - I think its quite possible she is too trusting of people (Naive) or just blain bad at her job from no experience (insane) - the fact that fuldu was a cop too reaffirms that - its highly doubtful that we would have 2 sane cops.

[Narninian]

072246

Fuldu: Cop looking for somebody
Maverick: Mafia
DP: Vig


Argoti: Claimed as doc - Protected bluesin night 1 MeMe night 2
mlaker: Looking for Mason partner, found 'all' his brothers last night - not sure how many
MeMe: Newbie Cop -claimed found 2 innocent and suspect her sanity(cop)


So fuldu was looking for somebody and found him then he got stabbed - Mlaker was looking for somebody and found him - Slight FOS: Mlaker.

I think meme is telling the truth - but as a newbie cop - I think its quite possible she is too trusting of people (Naive) or just blain bad at her job from no experience (insane) - the fact that fuldu was a cop too reaffirms that - its highly doubtful that we would have 2 sane cops.

[Narninian]

I am kind of confused by the Fuldu looking for somoene and being a cop - I am kind of suspicious of the 3 person mason group + 2 cops +doc+ vig + any other protown roles that havnt been revealed in a 12 person game seems sort of pro-town slanted.

Can anybody confirm mlaker?

the numbers arent relevant now.

[Narninian]

you know what?

VOTE: MLAker

can somebody back his claim now?

[Narninian]

instead of hinting that you're masons - can you guys just come out and say it? You dont have to say who the 3rd mason is - but if mlaker turns out to be a mason - mafia already knows who you are, why dont you let the town know so we dont lynch mlaker?

[Narninian]

UNVOTE: Mlaker

[Narninian]

I would guess naive - seeing as your a newbie cop - but we'll see if you get any guilty results....

[Narninian]

I certainly hope that's a typo - that would be EXTREMELY suspcious in a 12 player game, considering some of the pro-town roles that have already been claimed.

[Narninian]

dont see a recent vote count - but I beleive its only vote 2.

VOTE: Uraj

meme's logic seems like a good lead.

[Narninian]

maybe the killing groups thought another killing group would take out argoti- or they sought to frame him...

it does, however, seems suspcious that argoti is still alive.

[Narninian]

Argoti - Claimed as doc
BeyondTheGame - mason
gashlycrumb - Mason (probably)
MeMe - Newbie Cop
mlaker - Mason
Narninian - Unclaimed but willing to claim (would prefer not to)
Dragon Phoenix (vigilante) shot Night 1
Maverick (Mafia) lynched Day 1
Fuldu ( retired cop) shot and gutted Night 2

Uraj45
big_kahunia
BlueSin

If we assume there are 3 mafia and 1 other killing party then we can lynch any of the rest and they'll be scum. If there are only 2 mafia and 1 other killing party then 2 out of those 3 must be scum. (this is from my point of view - you guys dont now Im innocent so its out of 4). That is if the 'doc' isnt lying. I doubt we are w/o a doc. Nobody has made a huge case agaisnt argoti. Im happy with my Uraj vote - but Ill switch to BK ot Bluesin if somebody makes a case

[Narninian]

so its Uraj or Big Kahunia - Ill stick with Uraj for now....

[Narninian]

Regarding BlueSin: he'd have to be a lone killer, in my opinion, since he was one of the three who helped to lynch a mafia member yesterday. I'm unwilling to vote him at this point since he's cleared of being one type of scum.

that's why.

[Narninian]

anybody? wanna say anything??

Im happy with my vote for Uraj for Ill change to Big_Kahunia if desired.

[Narninian]

only a little aggresive because it seems like a lack or participation..
Ill claim if needed, but only if its what the majority think, and Yes I've narrowed down the list to 2 - URaj and BK - yes I trust MeME Mlaker.. I believe her to be an innocent albeit probably NAive cop.

Ill claim if needed Ill see what others say.

[Narninian]

well there is 4 unclaimed players... 2 docs have already claimed, so I guess it wouldnt hurt too much if we had a mass claim - but would it help?

[Narninian]

Ok - Mass claim time...

I was gonna wait until tommorow... but oh well.

I am a COP.

*gasp*

I do however, believe that MeMe is telling the truth. You see she is a newbie cop (Im guessing naive). Fuldu was a retired cop. I am a cop 1 year from retirement. From the phrasing of the PM - I would think I was either sane or paranoid - but I did get an innocent result so Im not paranoid. Im pretty sure Im sane. Im not sure what kind of cop Fuldu was but Im guessing insane (incomptent because he is rusty ) or maybe paranoid(jaded from a lifetime of cop work). Unfortunately I only have 1 night result - I investigated DP night 1 and this mod doesnt give out results for people who die the same night apparently.

I have made 2 Danny glover references in the posts (the cop near retirement in the Lethal Weapon Series).

the "Im getting too old for this **** quote somewhere, and the numbers at the beginning at one of my posts which happens to be Danny Glover's Birthdate

[Narninian]

err... I guess I got 2 games mixed up......

so we dont know Fuldu's sanity. But I still think Im sane... I believe the person I investigated is innocent anyway... and I think meme is more likely to be naive.

I think you need to do some more explaining Uraj - did you target fuldu? Do you think he targetted you? what was your result on MeMe? were you looking for fuldu ?

[Narninian]

I think meme is a useless cop (naive) - so its not like she can help us.. Im not sure what Fuldu what - Uraj's role just sounds evil (be he wasnt told it)... I think it might be possible.. I've been laying hints about my role for a while - If I was scum I certainly would have claimed something other than cop with 2 cops already out.

[Narninian]

but I dont think the cops are lying about being cops - Uraj's story is awfully suspicious though.

[Narninian]

yes. maybe you should - there are too many claimed cops - one of them has to be lying..

[Narninian]

well .. hmmmm...
There are a couple things we can do here.
With all these cops (even allowing for one of them to be scum) Im guessing most of them are useless (AKA their sanity is such that it wont help) I've already expressed my opinion that MeMe is likely Naive. I dont know my sanity, but since I got an innocent, which I truly believe is innocent, that means Im naive or Sane and I dont think Id be another naive cop.

In dethy, the best play is to no Lynch and then reveal results... Do you think multiple scum are lying about being cops?

If we decide to Lynch somebody today, Id go for Uraj right now - he admits he might have been a part of Fuldu's death.. it seems shady..

FOS: Uraj

[Narninian]

UNVOTE: URAJ

didnt realize I still had my vote on him...

[Narninian]

Id like to hear from meme - is this true?

[Narninian]

bah, I liked this game.