Mini Normal 1903 Firestone Mafia [GAME OVER]

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Screenplay/Not Fury/LaLight?

man, i knew grey would come in and see the same exact thing Rb and I saw...those are the 3 we stated.

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VOTE: LaLight

Because scum needs to die today.

And if this is not a complicated plan, you will not achieve what you are trying to.

if Rb was still in the game he would. Scum lucked out with that replace out.

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I mean, besides the Frogger read, Grey had basically the exact same reads as RB and I. Thoughts on that?

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I'd still rather NF than you. I never said I started to town read you. I even left an FOS on you. This is a playerlist I would like to have a rematch game with really, and see what happens when people are different roles. I feel mafia gets much better when the communal group have all played together.

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VOTE: Srceen

I'll lynch with my Rb.

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Interesting. So people thinking the team was Rb/Me/IAWS is very peculiar.

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Are you guys talking about Creature? He didn't start posting little until after you replaced in, Srceen. Earlier in that game, I'd say he was even town leader. He spammed it up.

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Also, I feel like frog has been scummy acting because everyone already saw him as town.

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Are you guys talking about Creature? He didn't start posting little until after you replaced in, Srceen. Earlier in that game, I'd say he was even town leader. He spammed it up.

From what I remember he never posted and what post he did have was short and sweet.

You didn't replace in until Day 4, though. Early in the game, he posted a lot, and even was a leading force in a wagon. Him, Eddie, and I got into a town block. He got quieter after he couldn't figure the game out.

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Can you give me a read on anyone?

Pretty sure I've given reads.

I was wondering if you could give a summary of someone. Without quoting someone else. Just your summary.

This isn't a dog and pony show. I don't do tricks on command.

Do your own legwork. When I have something I want to say, I'll say it.

ugh...srceen did this last game where I consistently told him to do his own research. He was town that game. i've never seen scumplay, though.

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If SP is scum reading me, then we both CAN'T POSSIBLY BE SCUM

you gotta stop with this. It's pretty bad...bussing is a thing, and I usuaully see scum scum reading their partners more than not.

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@Grey

The most notable things for me about the wall on srceenplay:

1) sheeping fro99er D1. Yes, scummy as hell. Fro99er was trying to get a huge towncred and then some people sheeped him in such an early period. I refused.
2) To sum up interaction with Not Fury: you do have a point, but I am cautious about making teamcalls while we don't have a read flip yet. I mean, okay, NF and SP are scumreads of ours, but do not scumread them mostly based on their interaction.
3) Nancy townslip may indeed be legit.

Let's put it this way: I will wait for rb slot to catch up and try to explain why he is not scum. If either 1) I believe him or 2) EoD will be near and you will desperately need me to vote for leading wagons, I will vote for Srceenplay.

So basically you are going to wait and see if you can pocket the RB replacement or not?

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Alright so I'm just going to lay it down that I'm town and if you're town you shouldn't try to lynch me. thanks

we're voting Srceen, stop, or I'm just gonna ask constantly very loudly for a policy on you. this does nothing. show WHY you are town, instead of just saying it. Things like that make you come off as scummy.

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if there's any vigilante out there, NF would be the best target.

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Alright so I'm just going to lay it down that I'm town and if you're town you shouldn't try to lynch me. thanks

we're voting Srceen, stop, or I'm just gonna ask constantly very loudly for a policy on you. this does nothing. show WHY you are town, instead of just saying it. Things like that make you come off as scummy.

You can vote me but it's wasting time. I'm town and I'm not getting lynched.

that's how I feel about the RB slot.

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Looks like that is L-1.

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It's a mislynch. I'm a watcher

Gonna claim who you targeted Day 1, then?

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I don't believe the claim.

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I see watcher/tracker claims as some of the easiest roles to fake claim.

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Bad or mafia motive aligned?

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I also didn't like the fact that he said he was now useless. Frogger has already soft claimed, so no matter what one of you wouldn't be useless if you were town.

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Convenient.

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I mean, the fact that we have a surgeon flip, frogger soft claim, and now srceen's claim, any other PR's should start to be weary due to the amount of PR's coming up. Regardless, I don't feel like the claim is real. Someone should hammer.

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I watched fitz. Nothing.
Was going to watch Creature but switched.
I thought Frogger and licky was to obvious. I was wrong.

Why Me? I was under the assumption you suspected me D1. So why watch a questionable read when you were so confident Fro99er was town? Therefore making him a decent possibility to attract scum night actions if he was in fact town.

And why Creature? wtf.

because Mafia Watcher is a thing. And he didnt want to risk being caught out by saying a different target.

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So rb Boon grey

Also, remember when he was talking about how all scum wouldn't be on the same wagon...

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Regardless, I don't feel like the claim is real. Someone should hammer.

You don't have an option 2 scum read to allow some potential watcher actions? Bad enough to lynch one claimed town pr. Two would be f'd up.

I've stated my reads. Srceen was always my #2. Nobody seemed to want to go for damn NF for some reason.

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What's your WhyMafia read?

I think he's town who got pressured into hammering. He's playing exactly how I expect NewTown WhyMafia would. That could fuck me over, but I'm not interested in lynching him toDay, as I feel if I'm wrong about him, it'll get sorted out later. I've been pushing NF/Srceen/LaLight toDay. Also, I found it annoying how Srceen at one point put NF as one of his 3 scumreads in the scum team, yet when I pushed him, he flip flopped.

To me that felt as if he was doing the whole bus a buddy, vote a townie, thing when he was voting IAWS.

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So you think LaLight is faking? I.e. bussing?

Nah. I'm more bound to believe now that LaLight is probably town. If you've noticed the last time the Lalight wagon came back up, I didn't join in. I've also stated that I've seen some of her posts seem off pretty town. Those 3 are/were just my top 3 scum reads. Srceen is right about the not all scum would be voting together.

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I put it as Boon or nf


WhyMafia
Null scum lean.
I just finished a game with him when he was town. I scum read him that game. A lot of AtE. He talked a lot and tried to stay in discussion. This game he seems to not be doing that as much. So it is FOS

it wasn't that initially.

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So you think LaLight is faking? I.e. bussing?

I need more info in the game. Need another flip to analyze, and I think that NF and Srceen have the most likely chance of flipping scum. I do see them as buddies, though.

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Also, I feel like frog has been scummy acting because everyone already saw him as town.

wat?

like when an IC knows they wont be lynched so they do whatever they want.

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I see it as a definite cc. Please lynch Srceen.

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I think Srceen is a Mafia Watcher.

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I see it as a definite cc. Please lynch Srceen.

Why is it a definite CC?

I'm just curious why it HAS to be one or the other.

I don't feel it should be talked about today.

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I'm a motion detector. Lynch Srceen.

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Frogger, you didn't move last night, so you got RB'd or hit ascetic.

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I feel MD, Tracker, Surgeon, and whatever you are Frog is enough to CC Srceen.

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Grey or myself will be the NK toNight. Grey's role is stronger than mine, though, so I expect it to be him. Nonetheless, I'll happily take the death toNight if it means he stays alive. Lynch Not Fury tomorrow.

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Frogger, you didn't move last night, so you got RB'd or hit ascetic.

HE SAID THIS PUBLICLY

No, he questioned if he did. He wasn't positive.

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Oh. Neat. I knew that, I just got excited with Srceen.

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I'm really salty you decided to kill me over Grey. Grey got us a guilty, though, but still, haha.

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Oh, I was coming into the day they killed me ready to tunnel LaLight hard.

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VOTE: WhyMafia

Hammer when you see this

Way to rush.

I mean, I wanted to lynch them both. I just still can't believe WM was that terrible.

you still shouldn't have voted him yet. there was no rush.

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I actually feel like Creature would have been the last scum for me to guess.

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Even if I scum read LaLight, WhyMafia was always the correct lynch. Odds are he'd come back and vote me anyway.

I mean, I town read WhyMafia from Day 2.

I also thought that the IAWS lynch was bad. He was so obviously town.

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Oh, I was coming into the day they killed me ready to tunnel LaLight hard.

you still scum read me at that point.

I knew you were town when I was still pushing you as scum. I had the Loyal modifier and I was looking to setup a masonry. With tracker over the MD claimed, I thought I would have been safe for another day. -.-

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I actually feel like Creature would have been the last scum for me to guess.

Yes, you hard town read 2 scums and then you say my play was bad.

? I only town read 1 scum. Creature wasn't a town read for me, and when Rb replaced out, that's a scum tell from him.

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IAWS contributed nothing that game. Look at his ISO. If not giving a fuck is townie, then lol?

I explained why he was town Day 2.

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IAWS contributed nothing that game. Look at his ISO. If not giving a fuck is townie, then lol?

why would scum not give a fuck...?

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Town, don't act scummy on purpose because your a power role. Just don't do that. Don't rush lynches when not everyone has a chance to talk

Idk who you're referring to with this, because I wasn't being majorly scum read. I'm not going to act super townie because I get night killed. I even got night killed this game. My only mishap was assuming I'd be safe from a NK with Grey alive, which in the end, wasn't even that bad since he caught a scum.

If I had to redo this, I would have just super mega tunneled harder until people got tired of hearing me until NF was lynched. I just needed them Night phases, haha.

To the reads things, reads can change. In fact, I feel that reads should be reevaluated every day. Nobody is going to be 100% correct and certain of it in the first few days.

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Boon, the main reason you scum read me day 2 was because I didn't give a fuck and yet you town read IAWS for that reason. Nice.

No, I scum read you because you were playing badly. I didn't think you didn't give a fuck. You were posting all the time; that's not not giving a fuck.

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Then you say RB is hard town, creature is hard town, and no push on lalight. RB replaced out of every game if I'm not mistaken, so it's not a scum tell for him.

I was against the first 3 town lynches. Lol.

i never fucking said Creature was hard town. I was fucking null on him and even fucking stated that he was different than the town game I had with him. Damn, you are dull.

He didn't replace out of every game. I was in like 3 or 4 games with him.

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I'm not going to act super townie because I get night killed.

I disagree with this attitude and mindset as a town player.

Well, people are different. This game showed me I need to be much more selfish as a town player. I win more town games when I am.

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I'm not going to act super townie because I get night killed.

I disagree with this attitude and mindset as a town player.

He literally outted every PR. Of course he's not acting super townie

Lol? Only person I outted was SP. Fuck off. I stated so hard how bad that Day 1 lynch was, and I had nothing to do with Grey claiming.

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We're all human, just admit to your mistake.

Fine. I admit I made a mistake when I claimed my MD. Happy? I really don't care that SP was lynched. Would I rather it have been you or LaLight at this point? Yes. Both I feel would have been more likely town pulled the win off.

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Then he can lock the thread, lol. That isn't an insult.

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See what I mean about egos?

yep. Fury's ego right there. I'm allowed to be angry that I put faith into others this game. I should have been more selfish.

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Why was I NKed over Frog?

Frog townread me a lot which helped much and he was really dominating the conversation.

yeah, that was really rough. I confirmed frog as town that Night for myself, so him constantly saying it made it so I couldn't push you. Haha, I was pushing you Day 1 for a good bit, too.

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See what I mean about egos?

yep. Fury's ego right there. I'm allowed to be angry that I put faith into others this game. I should have been more selfish.

Huh? I said 1-2 pages ago I was 100% the correct lynch that day rather than screenplay.

And I was 100% with LaLight. You're point?

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It was a split 3 verse 3 on Day 2, one scum in each. I think scum played well that day.

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See what I mean about egos?

yep. Fury's ego right there. I'm allowed to be angry that I put faith into others this game. I should have been more selfish.

Huh? I said 1-2 pages ago I was 100% the correct lynch that day rather than screenplay.

And I was 100% with LaLight. You're point?

Your*

and you say I have an ego, yet I myself am humble enough to see myself as the better lynch.

ac's a bitch.

What does that have to do with anything? It's not like I was a better lynch. I already stated day 2 scum played us well due to the 1 scum on each side, so there's really nothing to state about our Day 2. It happens.

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This is why Town should explain their reads, so that Scum have to, so that its easier to catch Scum.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter if town doesn't listen to them. =/

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See what I mean about egos?

Yeah, I do see what you mean.

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This is why Town should explain their reads, so that Scum have to, so that its easier to catch Scum.

I try to have that transparency in my play. I like giving my reads. I believe I was someone who did that, but I could have clarified on stuff more.

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This is why Town should explain their reads, so that Scum have to, so that its easier to catch Scum.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter if town doesn't listen to them. =/

Yup. Very few people scumhunt in the manner I'm accustomed to, and even fewer people listen to them. If you're lynching on gut past like D3 or using stuff like "too scummy to be scum" or "I wanted this lynch but too late now" something is critically flawed in your decision making process.

Also more setups need vigs.

Yeah. I agree with this. (not necessarily the vig thing, but the rest.)

Come Day 3/4 I become an analysis machine. No gut on anything. You have too much info available to still be going for that. (Albeit, I have been right before early game, but then I overanalyze and 180 my reads. -.- but was still better than going off gut)

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Thanks for the game Fire.

I'm disappointed that I was lynched. It was fun trying to talk everyone out of lynching me.
I know I'm not great and can improve. I'm open to hear anything but if it's just "your an idiot" you can keep it to yourself pleas.

We just got stuck in a 3v3 situation where scum was on both sides. You played fine what it was, and you nailed Rb as scum. I was in Rb's pocket so hard. He voted LaLight, and I just had that major scratchy feeling that I knew LaLight was scum, but I couldn't quite put it into words, which is why I think I ended up on you. They were able to manipulate us from both angles. It was a little weird that it just happened that of all people to have the PR's, it was me, you, and grey...and they were all the same type.