Would not be a word I would use to describe him.In post 1518, Grendel wrote:Isn't Nero supposed to be a collaborative player?
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I feel like a big part of your disengagement from the game is probably my fault from how much of a sack of lurk I've been since D1.
I'm in kind of a mafia-rut atm and have been pretty busy this last little while.
I'm back from Kingston so I'm hoping to make some time to not be useless in this game again.
We can bounce some thoughts and maybe both gear back up to make some shit happen here?-
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This is probably already in the thread somewhere, but I need specific things to pick at, and just saying blanket statements about how I feel about certain slots isn't really going to do much.
@GT, @kraska, @Mutton,
Can you articulate to me why you think Nero is scum in 1-3 condensed and specific points for me/in general? If you've already done something along these lines just point me at them.
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How long is it going to take you to get into the game and have specific reads?In post 1803, Vedith wrote:I don't know yet.
IE: what do you need to get there? Back-and-forths? Time to go read things?
You should spend some more time expanding on why you're scumreading Paul.
If you're getting really paranoid about me, I would suggest rereading the end of D1 again. It was a level of energy that I don't really think I could get myself into as scum.In post 1843, MuttonChopMagic wrote:cheet hasn't been overly active, and hasn't been all that helpful in gamesolving ya feel
i) Lack of follow-ups to questions isn't a good scumtell and there are other reasons that could apply besides just asking questions for the sake of looking like you're asking questions. I would need examples where you feel like he doesn't have bite where you feel like townNero would otherwise.gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i) his questions have little follow-up or bite to them - this is scummy because it means it's all just for show
ii) he backs out of his reads easily which means he's more interested in what town wants to do than actually lynching scum
iii) most of his questions are leading or misreppy and dont really have any utility in scumhunting. he's just throwing pointless shade which gives me the impression he's faking scumreads and not genuinely trying to put the pieces together
ii) I feel like dropping reads is easier for town to do than scum? Do you have experience with the opposite? Because I feel like as scum, I generally just hold onto my reads because I'm scared that switching easily is something that I won't be able to do convincingly vs just doubling down on what reads I do have.
iii) Nero throws a lot of shade as town. I also think it makes sense for someone uninvested who isn't as overly concerned with how he appears to push angles that aren't thought through.
There was a point while I was in Kingston that I was pretty close to voting him entirely based on the level of personality driving the case on him, but I realized that I was being stupid.Mutton wrote:cheet my man
what do you ypurself think of Nero can?
Every time I've read his ISO I've come out of it feeling like this is probably uninvested townNero. A lot of the points being used for him being scummy just kind of strike me as things he would do possibly even moreso as town? I'm open to the idea of being wrong, but I'm not seeing anything that I find overly compelling for why this is scumNero vs townNero other than that maybe it seems like he doesn't have much interest in trying to figure anything out right now. He could just be town that just doesn't give a fuck about the game, and honestly I vibe with that. There hasn't been a clear scum option to me at any point this game and I've been super demotivated from that. I can buy him feeling similarly, especially since it's not just me who's struggling to keep their head in the game.-
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Okay neat, what will it take for you to have actual reads here?
You're making a lot of posts but not really doing anything, is this just a today thing? Or a tomorrow thing?
Can I expect you to be pushing something shortly?
Are you planning on reading things and getting caught up soon?
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I'm not trying to imply you aren't trying at all, but to me there isn't much focus/direction to what you're trying to do.
There isn't much indication that you've read all that much of the game.
And there isn't any indication that you have any kind of reads.
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Oh.In post 1300, Nero Cain wrote:triple C, as annoyingly bad as N_M is we aren't lynching a claimed PR.
P-Edit: I was feeling Hiraki/Vedith as partners yesterday pretty hard, but Nero being scum makes me feel less sure about Hiraki being scum?-
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I suck.In post 1927, MuttonChopMagic wrote:I had a plan that didn't happen cause of cheet claiming but
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Missed that post sorry! (You have a lot of them and I'm frankly finding it difficult not to skim them when there's so many dense ones in a row yo.)
I just didn't really feel like scumHiraki relentlessly defends Nero on the bare premise of "I don't see any case on him".
I do honestly feel like my reads are objectively kind of terrible right now though so, take how I'm feeling with a grain of salt.-
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Or doctor dies tonight with whoever they have cleared still unknown? I really feel like it shouldn't be that hard to piece together things like this at this point.
If they have information to bring forward they should, a guilty and an innocent result is like the equivalent of a cop claiming with a guilty and an innocent and if there's any other PRs that can narrow down things (ie: roleblocker or tracker, etc) then having one less scumslot in the game makes PoE even easier.
Even if there's more potential utility from the role, having the possibility of that information being lost for good isn't really worth the what.. 1 in 9 chance of doctor saving someone again? Scum have way better odds of shooting a potential doctor tonight.-
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A backup motion detector?In post 2177, Grendel wrote:Since when does town power become so pessimistic that they'll hang?
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You recognize this and yet you still targeted a non-VT claim?In post 2245, NotTheRealPaul wrote:I dont see who made motion on what so pretty much I can only check BT claims and make sure they are in fact VT :/-
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what?In post 2271, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:scum arent going to get a backup of a role they can't inherit in my opinion-
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