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[Tchill13]

VOTE: mario

For making things difficult for vedith.

[Tchill13]

I don't see anything that's happened so far that's important. I just skimmed through.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: carcalilly

If i could vote luv at the same time I would. Carcalilly comes first alphabetically though.

[Tchill13]

Connect four isn't a scum tell I was just jealous nobody invited me to play.

[Tchill13]

Honestly you're probably both town. I doubt you'd bring attention to yourself as scum early day 1 with that sort of thing.

UNVOTE:

[Tchill13]

I have a limited amount of experience with a handful of these slots but not enough to get a rhythm for their game play as either alignment. That's useless ik but it was asked.

[Tchill13]

What's animal behavior say about Connect four?

[Tchill13]

I was wondering how long it would take people to start voting steel. Wouldn't scum try to blend in more though?

[Tchill13]

I don't lean anything on steel he's not done anything AI. He needs to do something different because what he's doing doesn't help him either way.

[Tchill13]

I commented on steel while I don't lean anything on him because he looks like an easy wagon for scum to try and push if the game stalls a bit or there's not any good slots to try and get lynched as scum.

[Tchill13]

I figured it was just a matter of time if steel kept doing that.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Steel
Your No-Lynch gimmick is mediocre and your insistence on continuing it when everyone ignores it is bad.

VOTE: Steel

Like here Mario I can see you as town voting steel because you just mentioned you're having difficulty getting scum reads so you kinda just throw your vote here and see what happens. Well vedith hops on and naked votes steel.

VOTE: vedith

[Tchill13]

I'm banking on the gut feeling I have that you're not scum and I doubt scum is going to try and get that wagon started. They're more likely to jump on early because that's less attention in my honest opinion.

[Tchill13]

I agree with Mario but there's very limited information to push that slot.

[Tchill13]

As in steel

[Tchill13]

I don't like this self meta conversation. I particularly think self meta is useless.

[Tchill13]

Vedith why does this feel like a fake claim from you?

[Tchill13]

Or rather I'm not quite that sure about tchill town, I might be a little biased for his whiteknighting me.

White knighting? I simply said there wasn't enough content from you. You're not worth defending I just figured your play could lead to an easy mislynch.

[Tchill13]

Well this took an odd turn.

[Tchill13]

daykill: vedith

[Tchill13]

Seems to me there's a lot of fluff coming from carcalilly, luv and Mario.

[Tchill13]

Replacing out has gotten terrible on this site :/..

"Cant get into it" is a crappy way of saying. "I didn't get a role I like".. These games suffer because if it..

It's becoming a bad trend

[Tchill13]

HEY

[Tchill13]

VOTE: scorpios

I say we just let the vedith claim slide for now. It'll be a waste of time. Everyone seems fairly towny except Scorpios and Mario. Right now I feel like persuing Scorpios is a good idea.

[Tchill13]

I feel like it's a really awkward reaction test though.
Like, Steel votes no lynch, sure, w/e.
But when he does it again, that's just trying to force a reaction when none exists. It's not going with the actual flow of reactions, it's like "HI GUYS DID YOU REMEMBER I EXIST YEAH I'M GOING TO DO THIS REACTION TEST YAY PLEASE RESPOND SO I CAN GET THE TOWNCREDIT"

While I like this theory and obviously it's a possibility Mario throws shade that hasn't provided any information at all. No indication of alignment. Then there's a lot of fluff that comes after this.... A lot... Of fluff...

We can lynch anyone?
Also consistency is not town-indicative and Carca isn't even voting me

I don't agree with this statement. Sounds to me like if he wants to be inconsistent later down the line he's just setting this up as a defense.

[Tchill13]

Throws shade at a slot

[Tchill13]

Actually if vedith's roll is as powerful as yall are saying...

[Tchill13]

Actually if vedith's roll is as powerful as yall are saying...

Why would scum fake claim on day 1 without the need to?

[Tchill13]

tchill made a bad post

You've made several bad posts?

[Tchill13]

no but your post is actually bad and scummy due to the huge amounts of stretch in it

Well point out what the stretch is. I thought I did fine.

[Tchill13]

I suggest we Lynch in the 3 names I gave as Scum worthy.
As Scum they will be scared right now and will be forced to kill in Carca, Chilly and Alban.
If non of them are killed tonight you can lynch me for 3 confirmed

Let's lynch scorpios.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Scorpious

Wouldn't mind a wagon here.

Why?

You are a null in a game where I townread most others.

UNVOTE:

I just voted there to see what would happen. Steel that's not a great reason to vote somebody. Vedith changed his vote after I voted Scorpious pretty quickly.

[Tchill13]

If you desire to pressure and see more that is a fantastic reason to vote someone, although you can't fully reveal it when you do it or that defeats the purpose.

I read Scorpious iso. I think he's town so I decided to not pressure him.

[Tchill13]

Hey vedith I don't want to lynch whymafia or Scorpious

[Tchill13]

Whenever anyone feels like it can they posts whether they believe vedith's claim? I'm forced to believe it because it's a day 1 claim when he had no pressure to claim and I'm town. So far the only argument against him is his meta.

[Tchill13]

I actually can't be scum.
I'm a day 2 IC 3 shot self sensor.

Can you actually stop. Please give a genuine reads list

Town - never lynch

Vedith
Alban
Chilly
Carca

Most likely town - never lynch

Mario
Steel
Io
IaI

Lynch and win the game

WhyMafia
Scorpios
Awesome

My suggestion is we either lynch awesome who's in his lynch and win. Or we lynch Alban or Carca. Personally I'd pick Carca. If vedith is scum then he'll probably throw one of his partners in his lynch and win and the never lynch. If I had to pick off that idea alone we'd either lynch awesome or we would lynch carcalilly. That's how I'm approaching his claim. For me I believe him a think we should lynch awesome. The side of me that doesn't believe him says we should lynch carcalilly.

[Tchill13]

Why shouldn't I town read you? I wasn't a fan of Lil uzi's play but I haven't seen anything scummy from you in particular.

[Tchill13]

Albans though process lines up with mine from time to time and I'm getting scum vibes from carcalilly based on past games.

[Tchill13]

Just skimmed through the last 3ish pages.

VOTE: carcalilly

Llama seems pretty cool. Llama is a town read in my book. Pointing things out that stood out to me as I read.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Llamafluff

He is doing the exact same thing as me, but I feel like from him its scummy.

Now why did this get over looked? It came off as comical to me but then I tried to figure out why steel would post this.

[Tchill13]

Also, I think Carca might actually be scum.

And what the heck is this? You use your fake claim to put carcalilly as "confirmed" town and now she's scum all of a sudden?

[Tchill13]

I know vedith retracted the fake claim but what about carcalilly changed from acting like she's conf town to saying she might be scum?

[Tchill13]

Vedith why did you put carcalilly in your conf town then come out and say you think she's scum? What changed?

[Tchill13]

But, this fakeclaim is more intricate that your other fakeclaims. Why'd you feel the need to do such a thing?

It brings the scum out to play.

So who's the scums that came out to play?

[Tchill13]

It's definitely carcalilly and awesome. Let's lynch carcalilly first though.

[Tchill13]

Basically because I have more experience with carcalilly and I'm more confident they're scum

[Tchill13]

Llama I'd love for you to vote Carcalilly if you can find adequate reason to.

[Tchill13]

Ew

[Tchill13]

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Day 1 VC #15

Awesomeusername (0) -​​
Vedith (3) (L-3) - Alban (104), LlamaFluff (532), Scorpious (587)
WhyMafia (0) -
Steel (0) -
I​​o (0) -
Scorpious (1) - MarioManiac4 (405)
Alban (1) - Carcalilly (602)
Tchill13 (0) -

Carcalilly (4) (L-2) - Steel (570), Vedith (580), WhyMafia (591), Tchill13 (592)

MarioManiac4 (0) -
LlamaFluff (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Io (428), Awesomeusername (597)

Lynch Threshold

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

Day 1 will end by July 27, 2017 5:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-07-27 17:00:00).

Moderator Notes

Moderator V/LA July 24-28. Please address issues to Gamma Emerald during that time.
Carcalilly V/LA until July 25. ((expired on 2017-07-25 23:59:59))
Steel V/LA until July 24. ((expired on 2017-07-24 23:59:59))
(As a reminder, if you have a weekend V/LA, please inform me every weekend so I don't forget. Setting V/LA tags is also highly recommended.)
Have fun!

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

Awesomeusername: Scorpious (73) --> I am Innocent (205) --> (Null) (387) --> Vedith (496) --> (Null) (565) --> LlamaFluff (586) --> (Null) (597)
Vedith: Carcalilly (88) --> Tchill13 (135) --> Steel (193) --> WhyMafia (455) --> Scorpious (459) --> Carcalilly (580)
Lil Uzi Vert

(replaced by WhyMafia)

: MarioManiac4 (192) --> Steel (256)
WhyMafia

(replaced Lil Uzi Vert)

: Alban (460) --> Carcalilly (571) --> Vedith (588) --> Carcalilly (591)
Steel: No Lynch (127) ==> No Lynch (182) --> Lil Uzi Vert (254) --> (Null) (272) --> Carcalilly (279) --> Scorpious (419) --> Vedith (442) --> (Null) (469) --> Vedith (545) --> LlamaFluff (537) --> Carcalilly (570)
Io: Steel (67) --> Io (132) --> (Null) (164) --> I am Innocent (204) --> MarioManiac4 (365) --> (Null) (428)
Scorpious: Lil Uzi Vert (99) --> (Null) (482) --> Vedith (587)
Alban: Vedith (104)
Tchill13: Carcalilly (129) --> (Null) (147) --> Vedith (231) --> Scorpious (437) --> (Null) (475) --> Carcalilly (592)
Carcalilly: MarioManiac4 (78) --> Vedith (90) --> Lil Uzi Vert (102) ==> Lil Uzi Vert (120) --> Io (133) --> Tchill13 (138) --> MarioManiac4 (170) --> Vedith (298) --> MarioManiac4 (377)
MarioManiac4: Carcalilly (66) --> (Null) (157) --> Tchill13 (174) --> Scorpious (176) --> Steel (189) --> (Null) (289) --> MarioManiac4 (340) --> Vedith (345) --> Scorpious (405)
I am Innocent (

replaced by LlamaFluff

): Carcalilly (69)
LlamaFluff (

replaced I am Innocent

): Vedith (532)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Dawn

Awesomeusername: MarioManiac4 (7)
Vedith: Tchill13 (13) --> Scorpious (24)
Tchill13: MarioManiac4 (49)
Carcalilly: Vedith (15) --> MarioManiac4 (19) --> Scorpious (30) --> MarioManiac4 (58)
MarioManiac4: Vedith (4) --> Carcalilly (50)

I think this was the last one.

[Tchill13]

You know that guy that brought up how Carcalilly totally has a different tone from when she started and was playing connect 4 until now when the wagon on her got a little serious. That guy made a good point... Oh wait I just did that.

[Tchill13]

The back and forth between vedith and carcalilly isn't really necessary. This is probably NAI but I doubt carcalilly would defend herself pretty hard as town while VLA. So I'm getting gut feels on top of actual reasoning for her being scum.

[Tchill13]

My vote is staying on carcalilly for the time being.

[Tchill13]

Wait, Mario, why are you hammering? I thought you didn't like the case on Vedith?

Stop trying to throw shade.
You are white knighting.

Agreed

[Tchill13]

Well I'm definitely going after carcalilly or awesome as scum. I'm very happy that vedith mentioned Llama as scum because I started to think in that direction. This is all only true if vedith flips town though. Of he flips scum this information changes.

[Tchill13]

I'm glad you're not replacing out Alban. I hate to see replacements.