Mini Normal 1923: BooneyToonz IV - Five Weeks in a Boon END

[Fykus]

Id be up for a maestro lynch if we could get the numbers

[Fykus]

Sorry just realised i made a mistake. I havent been a scum in booney toons yet, the game i was thinking of was a tb one. My bad.

Pedit there is no roleblocker so i just want to lynch a scum today. Im willling to negotiate who it is because either way doesnt matter. If we lynch scum today we win tomorrow.

Lets do maestro

[Fykus]

Actually fuck it. I call for thr last pr to out themselves and/or for klaz to confirm or deny it since he knows who it is. Tgeres no risk to them dying tonight so theres no reason not yo come out

[Fykus]

If we have a jk theres no rb and we lynch maestro

[Fykus]

At best we have another conf town at worst we put this rb business to bed

[Fykus]

Why do you think he wont give us the second result? It outs the pr

[Fykus]

It doesnt benefit scum. Scum MUST kill an investigative role tonight or they risk losing the game. The pr is safe

[Fykus]

Bless you gamma

[Fykus]

Gamma will you be here in 10 mins?

[Fykus]

Ok i got a question. Give me 10 mins

[Fykus]

Ok so i wanna self hammer. I dont wanna do it if itll hurt town
Scum is between teebs vecna and maestro and i want a set of very important instructions followed precisely. Should i?
Plus ill be bad in lylo

[Fykus]

My very specific set of instructions would net us scum

[Fykus]

But anyway. In my position would you self hammer or not?

[Fykus]

Also until then ill do this

VOTE: teebs

[Fykus]

0 people town read me and im worried klaz is gonna come along and hammer me when im busy and twilight will be quick. And if i get to lylo we lose

[Fykus]

Ive got an issue with the tb theory: on day 2 if it werent for vedith drawing attention to the fact you got a rb'd message on creature which in your role means a guilty, we may not have lynched him. Why would he draw attention to his partner like that?

[Fykus]

Especially to their rolecop

[Fykus]

Is titus normally this inactive/uncaring

[Fykus]

Just hammer me. Im only going yo be a liability anyways.
Gamma you cop tb
Klaz you do you know what
Jk jail maestro.

If klaz lives and has no result lynch him. If theres no kill maestro is scum

[Fykus]

Rip.
I think teebs is at L1

[Fykus]

Nvm L2

[Fykus]

If you'd have voted me i would have self hammered, gam gams.

[Fykus]

I wanna be lynched because if I'm not scum can easily throw suspicion on me over and over again and if they're smart enough theyll take me to lylo or mylo and get me lynched then. I am literally a risk for town to keep alive. All I ask is that you listen to me about the night actions. I've tried to explain who I think scum is, I've avoided making big "wifom" arguments about why I'm not scum and nothing is getting me town read so whats the point in me being alive. I think we've got 2 mislynches left. Use one on me, then depending on the results tomorrow you might accidentally use one then.

[Fykus]

@boon can we get a votecount please

[Fykus]

I think I'm like L-2?

[Fykus]

Everything I do you think is scummy.

[Fykus]

I dont post much - that must mean I'm conforming to my scum meta. I start posting a shitload - nope thats scummy too. I explain that I'm a liability to town - nope thats fake towniness. There is literally nothing I could do, short of claim a believable power role with proof that would get you to town read me, and even then you probably still wouldn't believe me would you?

also maestro is on me, so thats like 3 votes.

[Fykus]

I think I'm L-1 now

[Fykus]

do it.

Gamma - cop tb
klaz - use on the only one that makes sense. ifr you dont, i swear to god. we will have words after this game
jk - jail maestro.

[Fykus]

~~~~I'm coming to you mulch~~~~

[Fykus]

considering ive done it like 5 times now any info that can be gleamed is already out there. just listen to me.

[Fykus]

scum is in maestro (definately him), tb and vecna

tacos already on my wagon

[Fykus]

THERES NO ROLESTOPPER OR ROLEBLOCKER, JESUS CHRIST

[Fykus]

Also, basically not moving my vote this phase. No need when this is exactly the scumFykus os 1919's MyLo. At least that game was helpful for one thing - you should work on being a little more consistent across your games in activity; the attempts at appeasing the townbloc just come off as desperation, ditto the tunnel on me.

go back and look at me in mylo in that game. I didnt post shit. this is a direct fabrication.

[Fykus]

you should know this klazam cause you were there.

[Fykus]

To me that points more towards a Town JK or something available as a counter, especially with Klaz's MyStErY RoLe in the setup

Like, think about this from a design perspective

As a Mod, do I add negative utility to the Town or give the Scum faction more power? Almost always the former, if I'm trying to make a funky setup, because a powerful Scumteam is a huge threat to balance, more-so than having a role that's a little bit less effective because of some negative utility on Town's side that interferes with it being used to its fullest potential.

That, and DeasVail's flip was most likely meant to explain any past false positives but Geralt claimed D1, correct? Meaning we can assume he died for Gamma.

[Fykus]

Theres another pr floating around in this game. Its probably a jk. Therefore there is no scum roleblocker and you need to stop thinking that there is gamma. The idea of a scum roleblocker was brought up by creature! Why would mafia bring up the existence of their most powerful pr?

[Fykus]

But alas, we're just going around in circles again, just hammer me gamma and get it over and done with.

[Fykus]

What i mean is:

His claimed variation, if true, heavily implies the existence of a roleblocker mafia role.

So he is always getting targeted from here on now, because mafia:
A) don´t want confirmed towns.
B) Having a town coming back as a roleblock result is forever tainting that slot as a very likely scum.

Thus rendering every single one of his folowing results useless.

With that in mind, his claim makes sense from a scum perspective, because is a claimed role that has no urgency to die in the night, and also don´t have any urgency of presenting useful or correct information.

But his demand for a replacement i find it more town than anything. May be wrong though.

that is NOT a slip

[Fykus]

You've got 2 choices here. Trust me and vote maestro, or hammer me.

[Fykus]

My only worry is that if you hammer me now that means the day begins on the weekend again and TB is generally VLA on weekends, so on the off chance that hes town then scum will be able to use that as an excuse to get a wagon going on him and mislynch to win the game.

[Fykus]

oh, well lynch me then

[Fykus]

So far vecna has pushed perfect fifth and fykus has pushed maestro right? That's been each one's main push for the whole day phase correct?

my list is between vecna tb and maestro, but im pretty 90% sure maestro is scum

[Fykus]

I've had 2 scum games before. 1919 is my latest one and the only one maestro has seen of me before.

[Fykus]

if we're all suss on maestro lets lynch him. I've already posted one example wheres hes manipulated the facts to try and implicate me. IMO if we can lynch scum today we basically win tomorrow.

[Fykus]

VOTE: Vedith

In the game we just finished together your behaviour on replace-in was completely different from what it was this game.

The fact you just stated you'll be "ignoring my reads" just feels like an attempt at discrediting it, rather than trying to be cooperative or being suspicious about my motives - something id come to expect from a scum that knows someone is town, rather than from a town that disagrees with someone else's reasons.

Care to comment?

post 8 of vecna

[Fykus]

if we're all suss on maestro lets lynch him. I've already posted one example wheres hes manipulated the facts to try and implicate me. IMO if we can lynch scum today we basically win tomorrow.

Um no? He seems to be a secondary option for several people.

exactly. noone can agree on a primary so lets do the secondary. I guarantee you he flips scum

[Fykus]

what do you think about the fact that he lied about me in 1919? (confirmed by klaz)

[Fykus]

anyway, klaz can confirm himself tomorrow, theres no use trying to get him to out himself now.

[Fykus]

before you go vote maestro

[Fykus]

gnight.

[Fykus]

good hustle

[Fykus]

what if i flip town

[Fykus]

will you listen to my suggestions when im dead?

[Fykus]

alright intent to hammer myself then

[Fykus]

What difference does 12 hours for klaz to wake up make? Theres is absolutely nothing i can say or do to convince you im town. The vca points directly at me. Tchill is set in his hatred of my slot. Noones willing to listen to my suggestions for night actions and my existence if it somehow managed to continue to tomorrow just gives scum ammunition for another mislynch

[Fykus]

What would you do in my position?

[Fykus]

I have been fighting for the last 50 or however many pages its been. I'm not trying to pick a rando lynch either. I'm 90% certain that maestro is scum. I was almost as certain that vecna was scum but vca's you've done point towards tb so thats where I'm leaning atm for the partner. I'd rather lynch the one I'm more sure of but it seems like nobody is willing to negotiate with me on this. I feel like I've done everything I can, barring a big wifomy defense of my meta to show that I'm not scum but theres no point in doing that since everyone would just brush it off as wifom or "meta is unreliable since you can manipulate it".

Like theres nothing left for me to do here except die

[Fykus]

Probably tb due to the vca but I'd rather wait to see if he posts something substantial before the weekend when he goes vla for 3 days. My worry with that though is that if we lynch him and we flip town then we'll have to do me next and that means we're down to mylo after that

[Fykus]

Fykus, stop trying to get someone lynched that is confirmed town to yourself, and take the chance on the person that is highly likely to be the partner to the guy you want to lynch.

Youre wrong about me, and selfhammering is a retards' play.

are you saying maestro is confirmed town to me or that im confirmed town to myself?
my votes on tb so all i can do is hope people vote him and not me.

I can see me being lynched as beneficial to town because thatll give everyone a "clean slate" to work off of instead of having these unchanging preconceptions of my slot haunting their opinions.

[Fykus]

Ugh. I just feel so frustrated that I've reached the limit of my abilities and I can't argue myself out of this hole I'm in.

[Fykus]

Oh well, lets see what tomorrow brings (as in when klaz wakes up)

[Fykus]

Hey gamma cop me tonight then.
Klaz use your ability on you know who.
Jk jk maestro

[Fykus]

I think this clears vecna so scum is between me and maestro. Gg

[Fykus]

Because hes scum and he didnt expect us to check?

[Fykus]

Theres like 0 chance its true

[Fykus]

Im really glad i didnt self hammer now

[Fykus]

Maestros run away after his claims against me were proved false

[Fykus]

Oh thats right. My bad

[Fykus]

anyways, me vs maestro tomorrow. be there or be square

[Fykus]

VOTE: maestro

I call klazam to do a full reveal with his 2 results.
I also call for the jk to out themselves.
Whod you check gam gams?

[Fykus]

Watcher

[Fykus]

You saw creative rolecop teech. Therefore innocent.
You saw pr visit someone who didnt die. Therefore pr

[Fykus]

I wanted you to watch gamma incase he died

[Fykus]

Mafia fucked themselves by not killing you which leads me to believe they were vla aka maestro

[Fykus]

Thats true. I cant see why they didnt kill you though. We have another potential clear with gamma plus another tonight since they cant kill gamma cause youll see it

[Fykus]

No result means guilty.
Gg no re.
P.s im vt

[Fykus]

Exactly.
Also you know he can just lie about his answer since i answered first yeah? Just come out

[Fykus]

Why didnt you check me gamma

[Fykus]

Well what role do you think he has then

[Fykus]

Too late for that since i already said what i think.
Why does it matter what he thinks? Hes got a guilty on him

1. Hes mafia
2. He got jkd and there was no kill meaning hes mafia

[Fykus]

Hey gamma hows about some vca while we wait

[Fykus]

Thats what i mean :3

Pedit

I feel like youre cock blocking me lol.

[Fykus]

See.
Also wheres the jk

[Fykus]

Hell just lie so as to not incriminate himself further

[Fykus]

Teech the scum implicator lol. Love it

[Fykus]

Yay gg. Listen to me next time teech lol

[Fykus]

Any tips for me plz

[Fykus]

Any tips for me plz

dont do the shit i pushed you for on D1, provide solid reasoning behind your reads

What was that again

[Fykus]

townblock shit, no providing explantions behind your reads, and on the previous day PR directing.

Tbh, if M flips town, youre next up on the noose.

Lol and don't wait to scum hunt until there's a pretty good case on you for being scum.

I was in 7 games at once so i was a bit burnt out lol

[Fykus]

Yeah im gonna from now on. 3 or 4 max

[Fykus]

Dont try it its horrible lol

[Fykus]

Hellooooooooooooooooooooo

[Fykus]

Hahaha im lonely waiting for a flip

[Fykus]

Also I think Fykus was totally right on d3

About what lol

[Fykus]

Advice please.

Also pre in me your next boon.

Also was the 1 shot doc just for fake claim purposes?

[Fykus]

OS doc was GS false clear

Ah makes sense

[Fykus]

and you didnt believe me teech. for shame

[Fykus]

I admit I was scummy in the first couple days since it was like my normal scum meta, but when i started making cases and stuff i think that was an obvious town tell lol. Its lucky you got a clear cause I was probably gonna push you otherwise for being pigheaded

[Fykus]

I admit I was scummy in the first couple days since it was like my normal scum meta, but when i started making cases and stuff i think that was an obvious town tell lol. Its lucky you got a clear cause I was probably gonna push you otherwise for being pigheaded

You completely defended ThinkBig and he flipped scum lol.

All I wanted was for a chance for him to post. His post was pretty much the nail in his coffin lol

[Fykus]

Oh well, you did well this game. Very assertive and you kept your pr hidden the entire time. Good hustle

[Fykus]

Thanks boon i appreciate it