Mini Normal 1929 - Game Over

[MarioManiac4]

Wow I get a nickname i'm so happy with myself

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Vedith
you know what you did

[MarioManiac4]

he vedithed

[MarioManiac4]

it exists because the sun does not rise immediately, instead there is a period where it is only partially over an area which is usually 5am-8am depending on the season

[MarioManiac4]

I am against the Scorpious lynch.

[MarioManiac4]

Me and you.

[MarioManiac4]

Me and you.

Okay. If I gave you a full gun, and said don't kill us buddy! Who would you kill right now as scum?

awesomeusername.

[MarioManiac4]

Me and you.

Okay. If I gave you a full gun, and said don't kill us buddy! Who would you kill right now as scum?

awesomeusername.

Why don't you ever want to work with me?!

I think we can get Scorpious lynched tbh.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm one shot gamesolver. Come at me.

[MarioManiac4]

Actually I was planning to use it in endgame.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Carcalilly
Wow, that was easy.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: mario

For making things difficult for vedith.

Making things difficult for vedith is my job

[MarioManiac4]

[MarioManiac4]

DO IT!

[MarioManiac4]

anyone up for a game of shitposting?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Carcalilly

[MarioManiac4]

Carca, how many scum do you think they have?
Think they have any particular roles?

Uhhh I'm going to take a lucky guess and say 3.

we could always talk about how this is trying too hard to look uninformed

[MarioManiac4]

have you ever seen a mini normal with anything other than 3 scum y/n

[MarioManiac4]

Ah yes this is 11p shit
UNVOTE:

[MarioManiac4]

the only guy i have more than like 1 game with is vedith
and i have no idea how to meta any of you

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Tchill13
let's go!

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Scorpious
What a substantially insignificant question.

[MarioManiac4]

You're asking a player if they will votepark which is like the weirdest and least impactful question ever. I have absolutely no actual good reads at the moment so you get a vote. Enjoy.

[MarioManiac4]

Doesn't make much sense as a counter. You don't really have much room for complaining since you're voting me 'til I can prove my innocence

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Steel
Your No-Lynch gimmick is mediocre and your insistence on continuing it when everyone ignores it is bad.

[MarioManiac4]

Feel free to do so. It gives us an extra Town Power Role.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: MarioManiac4

how could you

[MarioManiac4]

I was wondering how long it would take people to start voting steel. Wouldn't scum try to blend in more though?

Do you think that scum always try to blend in?

[MarioManiac4]

If you don't lean anything on him, why did you need to comment on people voting him?

[MarioManiac4]

what is important about the selfmeta?

[MarioManiac4]

ok, were you hoping to achieve anything by pointing it out?

[MarioManiac4]

but like do you think self-meta will come exclusively from scum here?

[MarioManiac4]

darn you foiling my attempts to get scumreads

[MarioManiac4]

i mean that's totally ignoring context but ok

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like it's a really awkward reaction test though.
Like, Steel votes no lynch, sure, w/e.
But when he does it again, that's just trying to force a reaction when none exists. It's not going with the actual flow of reactions, it's like "HI GUYS DID YOU REMEMBER I EXIST YEAH I'M GOING TO DO THIS REACTION TEST YAY PLEASE RESPOND SO I CAN GET THE TOWNCREDIT"

[MarioManiac4]

we could get some votes flowing on one player???? steel????

[MarioManiac4]

don't really think you've done anything noteworthy and neither has anyone else, mostly i think voting or at least the suggestion of such may jumpstart the game

[MarioManiac4]

when i'm scum i just do random shit hardcore push a townie occasionally etc

[MarioManiac4]

even if it is hollow there can be discussions about the hollowness and we can leave this general thing of nullness behind which ironically is what is happening right here right now
so i guess i was right \o/

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
steel feels town to me carca's posting is a stretch but not sure if it's scum-indicative rn
don't have any scumreads so i'm just going to not use my vote for now

[MarioManiac4]

so what are you going to do about that read?

pedit:

[MarioManiac4]

I'm scum.

^Can confirm.

[MarioManiac4]

Can i guess
3u

[MarioManiac4]

*3

[MarioManiac4]

I KNOW IT

and if you're town, how do you know
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNN

[MarioManiac4]

Lol vedith what are you trying to do

[MarioManiac4]

But my role pm says Carcalilly is scum!

[MarioManiac4]

Desperado: Carcalilly

You can't get me if I get you first!

[MarioManiac4]

It's my speciality.

[MarioManiac4]

It is. Luckily she's dead now

[MarioManiac4]

You can't kill me, you're already gone

pedit: Don't forget that I'm obvtown too!

[MarioManiac4]

I think Mario might be town.

I agree.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: MM4
Shit, I'm caught. Better selfvote to cut off town discussion.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Vedith
Policy lynch.

[MarioManiac4]

He just made a fucking Oddish pun. Full steam ahead.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Vedith
Policy lynch.

Now I'm full of Gloom

LYNCH THIS IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT WAIT FOR CLAIM. I REPEAT. DO NOT WAIT FOR CLAIM.

[MarioManiac4]

[MarioManiac4]

Fluff is the best part of mafia because it makes you feel like you're not playing mafia at all.
It can also help a bit with reads but that probably involves actually being good at mafia. So somebody else can do that.

[MarioManiac4]

yes, do not play mafia, succumb to the FLUFF

6. Constant off-topic posting will not be tolerated.

~Ircher

[MarioManiac4]

We can lynch anyone?
Also consistency is not town-indicative and Carca isn't even voting me

[MarioManiac4]

as scum I love consistency
It's like easy townread bait for just beating the same drum

[MarioManiac4]

But yes that's basically the same thing
Just get one idea into your mind. Keep repeating it. Keep advocating it. Push it. No contradictions or backpedals. I've used it to great effect to the point where I survived times when I should've been powerlynched so I don't really think it's a good tell at all.

[MarioManiac4]

if you scumread me for posting memes on page 15 i may as well have a hated modifier in all games with you
also i don't really get your scumreads on me
like carca's links were
1. me scumreading her momentarily because i forgot it was 11p and saying that she thought it would be 3 scum as a lucky guess in a 13p sounds super fake
2. her saying she was gonna keep her vote on me until i proved myself which isn't a point at all
3. me misinterpreting a quote while trying to get reads
4. her applying her scum ideology onto me

none of that is really anything i can engage with or argue against

[MarioManiac4]

Of course I'm going to ignore it it's literally just a random vote on me like what am I supposed to do flood the thread with ate
My interpretation was literally in the post she quoted
and yes that's what she was doing. she linked to a post which she had commented on. her intentions seem pretty clear.
i'd been pretty clearly trying to get reads before that point so i don't know why you're accusing me of not wanting them. either way I was basically saying "your recent posts could go either way, nothing indicative"

[MarioManiac4]

We can lynch anyone?
Also consistency is not town-indicative and Carca isn't even voting me

VOTE: Mario
Sorry bb the opportunity vedith gave was just too good.

not again

[MarioManiac4]

1. because i didn't want my vote to be on null at that point, i wanted to at least use it to get reads. there was no purpose to voting you
2. yeah lol but io said she agreed w/ your case so i felt like i had to comment on that at least
3. it probably wasn't helpful directly- im not a super serious mafia player and not everything i say will be directly helpful to the town wincon but i try to make sure it never harms it. that wasn't really serious, it was more about "wow you're picking at my post but you're assuming guilty until proven innocent, how rude "
and yes i dropped it fast because it wasn't a good read and it wasn't helpful. there was no reason to keep it and i chose not to.

[MarioManiac4]

@carca; yes i thought that was a better vote

I call BS on innocent. You have 7 years of site experience and expect us to believe you cant play effectively because you have another game in

{REDACTED FOR VIOLATING ONGOING GAMES RULE}

? Do what you want,but don't insult us..

this post is gross
VOTE: Scorpious

Portions redacted for violating site rules.
~Ircher

[MarioManiac4]

i claim day 3 backup Innocent Child 1-shot Self Sensor

[MarioManiac4]

i don't like overaggression generally but i agree with most of the notions in the above post
pedit: or two posts ago i guess!!!!!!!!

[MarioManiac4]

the fact that he's painting iai as scum for basically no fucking reason
he's stretching rl shit and accusing iai of using it without base and i dont think that comes from a genuine town mindset

[MarioManiac4]

like this is scorpious itt
>IAI is inactive because he can't get into the game
>IAI is replacing because he doesn't like his role and is scum and is making excuses omfg

[MarioManiac4]

tchill made a bad post

[MarioManiac4]

no but your post is actually bad and scummy due to the huge amounts of stretch in it

[MarioManiac4]

when reaction test goes too far

[MarioManiac4]

no but your post is actually bad and scummy due to the huge amounts of stretch in it

Well point out what the stretch is. I thought I did fine.

stretch #1

posting reasoning for your vote is somehow shade

stretch #2

saying that consistency isn't townindicative in response to a townread based on consistency is an excuse to be inconsistent

[MarioManiac4]

he's vedithing

[MarioManiac4]

Vedith is being Vedith lol

[MarioManiac4]

i don't have any experience in metaing him for alignment lol but this is the kinda thing i'd expect him to pull. maybe more as town but i could see vedithscum doing it for the lols

[MarioManiac4]

vedith pls

[MarioManiac4]

you know exactly what he's talking about.

[MarioManiac4]

it's pretty obvious don't you think?
anyhow vedith

the moment of truth

are you going to admit to lying about your role because your claim is really really fucking broken

[MarioManiac4]

yeah you know when i claimed bulletproof vig jailkeeper cop doctor? i may have exaggerated my role a little.

[MarioManiac4]

m a g i c

[MarioManiac4]

idk i townread that
io is more likely

[MarioManiac4]

I think we should find out vedith's real claim the old fashioned way now.

or we could just accept that he retracted?

[MarioManiac4]

where?

pedit: I'm willing to consider Vedith as a lynch and I will think about that in the morning when I am more capable of critical thought, but Steel reccomended lynching him to reveal if his claim is true when he has retracted his claim.

[MarioManiac4]

carcalilly to clarify you are saying your push on me was fucking around? as in, not real?

[MarioManiac4]

The Mario vote isn't entirely a joke

What is your mario read? I've only really seen you mention his pre-rvs post pinged you.

Leaning scum.
156 173 187 284

this is supposed to be a reaction test?????????????

[MarioManiac4]

I'm not sure doing anti-town things is scum-indicative for Vedith. (Disclaimer: I don't like using meta to prove someone is town or scum, as meta can be used and manipulated when used in that way, but I think it can be used effectively to help disprove a point.) In Open 690, Vedith came into the game and immediately deathtunneled two town players without ever looking back. Despite what would seem to be incredibly reckless and even antitown behaviour (just like in this game) he was town. In a scum game I played with him, he acted far more carefully. Of course, we can't reach any definite conclusions from this, but I feel like it's not right to lynch Vedith for overly reckless behaviour. I think he's also been fairly consistent in scumreading Carcalilly here. I don't really want to lynch Vedith yet.

I don't really like the Carc wagon either. Like, I don't really find her saying she was joking around early game scum-indicative, considering that, well, she kinda obviously was? Like, looking at her ISO I read all of her early stuff as jokes basically. Not to mention her vote on me felt really town. As in, she wasn't trying to find something to push, she actually had solid reasoning to back all her stuff up. When it was prodded at, she had solid thoughts to provide as to what points she was trying to make.

I really dislike Io pushing Vedith's scumclaim actually.

[MarioManiac4]

His post was clearly "If you think I'm scum with X, then help me bus X." referring to the fact that if you believe both are scum you should be willing to vote the other person. I don't like the way you're spinning it.

[MarioManiac4]

So why not lynch Carca today then me tomorrow?

He literally said it explicitly.
Also, you did say that you thought CarcaxVedith was pretty strong, so it's clear to me why he would've thought that.

[MarioManiac4]

The scum team don't know there's a traitor in normal games and there for playing to win with a team of 2.

[MarioManiac4]

The scum team don't know there's a traitor in normal games and there for playing to win with a team of 2.

What do people not get of this?
A traitor knows the scum team, scum team don't know the traitor.
If town go with "Only 2 scum" and if there's a traitor then they act stupid in a LyLo situation they aren't aware of.

Yes, scum don't know the traitor, but they know there is a traitor, and you said "the scum team don't know there's a traitor"

[MarioManiac4]

Yes, scum don't know the traitor, but they know there is a traitor, and you said "the scum team don't know there's a traitor"

In Normal games?

Yes.

[MarioManiac4]

So why not lynch Carca today then me tomorrow?

He literally said it explicitly.
Also, you did say that you thought CarcaxVedith was pretty strong, so it's clear to me why he would've thought that.

I said that, and said that Carca is only scum if Vedith is also scum.
It's fairly strait forward. Why would I want to lynch someone who I think would only be scum if another person is scum over that other person.

That's not even the point. The point is that you're spinning him thinking this is true for him scumclaiming for reasons ??? and ???

[MarioManiac4]

I just checked normal guidelines.
"identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists"

So I was right.

You said Mafia don't know a Traitor exists. That's incorrect.

[MarioManiac4]

ooooooooh is this where we call people dumb
io you're denser than osmium. not like you know what that means.
vedith you're slower than a fucking sloth and you don't even have chikorita snivy OR oddish in your avatar

[MarioManiac4]

i'm saying that you portraying something that wasn't a scumclaim as a scumclaim is scummy

pedit: Vedith do you want me to policy lynch you

[MarioManiac4]

wat

[MarioManiac4]

I'm 99% sure Vedith isn't trolling here.

[MarioManiac4]

that's just vedith really. i get the idea he wants to push the wagon further before making a case or just doesn't want to build a case for a read that can't really be cased (i.e tone read- if they were experienced w/ each other vedith could tell if something was off) but you'd have to ask him.

[MarioManiac4]

c a u g h t
i n
a
l i e

[MarioManiac4]

vedith pls

[MarioManiac4]

intent to hammer

[MarioManiac4]

I refuse to help a town that follow someone with a shit case.

well isn't that kinda counterproductive since you are now being lynched not for any case but for bullshitting

[MarioManiac4]

I don't claim.

[MarioManiac4]

Proposition: Tchill is scum.

[MarioManiac4]

I would but apparently AUS has shit to do so whatever. I can wait.

[MarioManiac4]

Lol. Don't think you're achieving anything.

[MarioManiac4]

And that's exactly what we're doing before the hammer. Making people take stances on their coasting. Discussion isn't anywhere near dead yet. If you really cared this much, you'd selfhammer.

[MarioManiac4]

I didn't mean that you should actually self-hammer

[MarioManiac4]

it to me

[MarioManiac4]

Seriously why do you care so much about a tiny delay in hammering for people to explain things.

[MarioManiac4]

Why is it such a big deal that people want to fucking talk about some shit after you seal your fate intentionally.

[MarioManiac4]

Because it's always bullshit at that point and you know it.

No it's not "always bullshit." It's making people fucking take stances. That's completely and entirely different.

[MarioManiac4]

Because it's always bullshit at that point and you know it.

No it's not "always bullshit." It's making people fucking take stances. That's completely and entirely different.

Stances are the easiest thing to fake in this position so don't bullshit a bullshitter.

No? They don't matter as much when someone's about to be lynched. But they still force you to actually state your opinion and do something about it before the flip. It's far, far easier for scum to fake it after the flip.

[MarioManiac4]

It's not just about the stances they take as in "He's town" or "he's scum." It's about the reasoning and thought process given, and what is done with it. i.e; if vedith is called obvtown, and the player fucking doesn't try to save him at all, that's probably a scumfuck.

[MarioManiac4]

Last towngame I played with you, you called me and another townie "scumfucks" and tunnelled both of us. The thing is that there were 9 players alive only 5 of which were town, yourself included. Your reads aren't infallible. I'll look into Tchill!town and I'll look into Awesome!scum, but you don't get to call me out because my reads aren't the same as yours.

[MarioManiac4]

You still acted like your reads were infallible in that game. Maybe your accuracy is lower. But it's evidence just based on my one recent towngame with you that saying you are god dictator Vedith and I'm playing terribly because my reads aren't the same as yours isn't something I should let take over my game.
I'll consider your reads, sure. But they are most certainly not infallible at all, and calling us dumbshits for not agreeing with them is really meh.

pedit: Didn't you say that you could recognise my scumgame in that game too?

[MarioManiac4]

Like, I could lynch Carca and I could not lynch Tchill I guess. But what you're doing isn't helping.
I'm probably not doing anything constructive either so I'll just leave the thread for now.

[MarioManiac4]

is that it

[MarioManiac4]

hello i'm probably going to look at vedith's reads now on people that arent tchill and carca and check if they are good
also tchill's i guess

[MarioManiac4]

wasnt scorpious online like 5 minutes ago i am 99% sure he was

also i'm still thinking of what productive things to do because i am fairly lost right now everything i knew of this game was proven to be a lie n1

[MarioManiac4]

I'll do that!

[MarioManiac4]

hello i'm probably going to look at vedith's reads now on people that arent tchill and carca and check if they are good
also tchill's i guess

wasnt scorpious online like 5 minutes ago i am 99% sure he was

also i'm still thinking of what productive things to do because i am fairly lost right now

everything i knew of this game was proven to be a lie n1

I'll do that!

one of the reasons I'm townreading Mario right now is because of absolutely fantastic tone. I think it's relatively towny to come in here and just say that fuck it I'm lost because it shows honesty when the scum would want to act gamesolvy. On the other hand, the fact that he has to justify it is really scummy. The bolded part is a subtle way of saying "yeah, I'm moping because I was bad day 1"= I pushed a mislynch day 1, and I was wrong day 1. It's like he is trying to highlight the persona of Mario that is devastated because he was

so

wrong day 1, except instead of doing it naturally he has to manually say, wow, it's having such a big effect on me that I'm going to just be moping.

im not devastated or moping lol i just dont know who scum is

I was going to post but now I have to catch up again. :/

I am simultaneously pretty convinced by Llama's case, and agree with Steel that there's not enough back and forth in his reads. At this point I'm like 85% that one of Mulch and Llama is scum.

actually i do
VOTE: awesomeusername

like i think his entire d2 ISO is pretty gross both in isolation and in context i can make a case if needed

[MarioManiac4]

llama's case on alban makes no sense and alban in general feels like really stubborn town
like i see no reason at all for scum to get upset and then replace out for it? like those emotions are going to be genuine and just because they make so little sense for scum i honestly think alban is just town here
i really don't like awesome's chaining up of llama -> alban i'm not particularly feeling scum in either which is what i was saying earlier

[MarioManiac4]

DONT YOU NULL ME WHYMAFIA

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Scorpious

[MarioManiac4]

that rule is equivalent to "don't be a dick"

[MarioManiac4]

You know what? I want to gladiate with Alban. 1 v 1 me.

he hasn't been fence-sitting and he hasn't been coasting.
and you're going to have give sources for 3)

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.

this is still really bad

[MarioManiac4]

tbh mafia have a kinda tough path to victory assuming 2 members
a major thing i'm doing is looking for people trying to arrange it

like awesome and scorpious

[MarioManiac4]

Prodding Mulch

life is broken

[MarioManiac4]

tbh mafia have a kinda tough path to victory assuming 2 members
a major thing i'm doing is looking for people trying to arrange it

like awesome and scorpious

Why do you assume 2 members?

with a 2-shot vig and 3 members there could be d2 mylo which is no

[MarioManiac4]

lmao
never thought i'd see the day where mulch gets prodded

This game is horrible lol

It is
You are like the only player I'm having fun with
Mario is absent 99% of the time

Sorry whymafia there's nothing to say I just want to lynch the player who shades replacements and isn't scumhunting

[MarioManiac4]

Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends

MarioManiac4, WhyMafia, Alban

Candidates For Promotion

Mulch, LlamaFluff, Steel

Watchlist For Meaniness

Awesomeusername

Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes

Scorpious

[MarioManiac4]

oh no is mulch scum

[MarioManiac4]

i have to consider things outside {aun, scorp} earlier than i was going to

uhhhhhh

[MarioManiac4]

im never lynching whymafia
i think alban is town but not 100% more like 90%
NEVER lynching whymafia

[MarioManiac4]

i support the plan

i think its already hammered BUT

[MarioManiac4]

if scorp is scum he kills awesomeusername and we learn nothing? what's the plan for this?

[MarioManiac4]

that's an alright claim considering vig stuff

that said scorp already knows there is a vig

i dont want him @ endgame still

[MarioManiac4]

I know vig is dead. But a weak doctor kinda makes some sense with a vig.

On the other hand- 3 kills a night in a 11p game? Really?

[MarioManiac4]

could lead to d3 lylo which is uh questionable

[MarioManiac4]

Depends, does anyone care?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: scorpious

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: scorpious

I did what I was told to do..

Idk what you want from me?

Are you going to provide the reason you are voting me?

I win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one townie remains.

[MarioManiac4]

Scorpious is the scummiest player from yesterday and unless literally nobody claims PR that isn't going to change today. I guess we can have one PR out along with any information then we can lynch scorp.

[MarioManiac4]

I would have killed awesomeusername. That doesn't really matter though.

[MarioManiac4]

I townslipped, now sheep me to freelo.

[MarioManiac4]

the singular benefit to doing massclaim today would be to kinda clear scorp if there are no other PR claims, i don't see 8 vt + 2shotvig vs 2 goons as something that would be passed tbh

it could also out an important role though

[MarioManiac4]

save us lord and saviour awesomeusername

[MarioManiac4]

>mfw the clear forces me to use critical thinking skills

[MarioManiac4]

honestly im tempted to just say llamafluff because im not a fan of his tone but objectively idk anything wrong with him

[MarioManiac4]

I would have killed awesomeusername. That doesn't really matter though.

What would be your reasoning? Your kill would have failed.. You would know that it was going to fail also.

wow im an idiot

[MarioManiac4]

i just remembered scorp as weak but hes also a doc so zzzzzzzzzzzz

[MarioManiac4]

/(._)/ WE NEED A MULCH OVER HERE

[MarioManiac4]

a l b a n

[MarioManiac4]

am i actually gonna have to reread 61 pages zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[MarioManiac4]

i claim town 1-shot albanclaimizer

[MarioManiac4]

i'm beginning to seriously doubt my alban townread.

[MarioManiac4]

Scorpious, Town Weak 1-shot Doctor, was lynched on Day 3!

Awesomeusername, Vanilla Townie, was endgamed!
MarioManiac4, Vanilla Townie, was endgamed!
WhyMafia, Vanilla Townie, was endgamed!

The Mafia team of Mulch, Carcalilly, Alban, and LlamaFluff has won the game!

[MarioManiac4]

town, why?

[MarioManiac4]

so you could choose the optimal nightkill on n3?

[MarioManiac4]

if ur obvtown like me everyone townreads you

[MarioManiac4]

so you could choose the optimal nightkill on n3?

No, cause I want to use it against llama

So this is what you meant

[MarioManiac4]

If Alban claims VT you are probably jointsecond with llama after him tbh
There are too many town this game, somebody needs to be moar scum

[MarioManiac4]

Well, to use it to convince him, yes lol

Well to start off I have no idea how to read you and giving any indication otherwise is inaccurate

[MarioManiac4]

yes

[MarioManiac4]

a town role pm

[MarioManiac4]

VT

rip

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:

i have to reread the entire fucking game riiiiiiiiiiiiip

[MarioManiac4]

If alban is scum what is 222

[MarioManiac4]

VT

.

[MarioManiac4]

Watcher + 1-shot Weak Doc + 2-shot Vig vs 3 goons

my first thought for this would be "surprise lylo is supermeh" which is why i think 2 goons in the first place

[MarioManiac4]

^ There's been a hammer.

[MarioManiac4]

Hello. I am here.

LOL @ the traitor nightkill. Dunno what shenanigans w/ the final scum that could involve.

WM's play alone seems town but I gotta do actual things too.

[MarioManiac4]

@AUN; I can't really explain my WM townread that well? I just thought what he was saying w/ alban and the 180 is unlikely to come from scum.

I would never make the Scorp kill here. I have done things and I have been paying attention. Like the kill is so incredibly weird no matter who made it.

I'm gonna look at Scorp's ISO for traitor signals.

[MarioManiac4]

I think the Scorpious hard TR on llama is kinda suspicious.

Whatever the crumb is, scum PROOOOOOBABLY didn't pick up on it.

[MarioManiac4]

I didnt know who was mafia,and getting myself killed trying to heal one is pretty stupid and not helpful.

You didn't have one solid lock town read?

Llaama is town

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah, probably. I need to look at other stuff before I vote though.

[MarioManiac4]

Idk. Llama replacing in to do the breaking strat seems kinda towny.

[MarioManiac4]

muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulch are you scum

[MarioManiac4]

Also I know it's sort of cheap but I'm basically activity cleared lmao

activity cleared as in "didn't spampost"?

[MarioManiac4]

You have over twice as many posts as me. And I'm the second biggest poster in the game.

[MarioManiac4]

In 1911 you were the 3rd biggest poster.

So you're not cleared imo.

[MarioManiac4]

IDK. I'm starting to think scum is Whymaf.

[MarioManiac4]

he voted whymaf at l-1

also whymaf was never in danger of a lynch and scorpious was generally not a threat to whymafia's life

so (if whymaf!scum) it wasn't bussing it was distancing

[MarioManiac4]

not in danger of a lynch.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: WhyMafia

[MarioManiac4]

I mean tbh I think Whymaf's D3 is sus-worthy on its own and he had like five posts.
He basically sat back and watched Alban get lynched. He had his vote on a watcher claim and all he had to say was "this may be scum!watcher"

and "damn" to consider the self-vote just isn't good enough. if you're unsure, you unvote.

i'm getting more confident in this now. iirc he's also been shadethrowing me for a while.

[MarioManiac4]

Llama says in that post that they are 40% sure Alban is scum and is calling me scummy for hammering him. They even say their gut says Alban is scum. Let alone we were all in consensus agreement that he was scum, and even awesome gave me the OK to hammer. Yet I'm scummy for hammering?

the game was literally broken with the watcher claim and everyone just like ignored it.
my instinct was to call that out but i thought it out and decided it wasn't scummy just suboptimal (although the chances of alban!scum were pretty high anyway so i guess i kinda understand where it comes from)

[MarioManiac4]

Ugh I'm getting colder feet on Llama. Mario has good tone ... but not much else.
@AUN can you do an analysis on Mario? It seems like we're just ignoring that slot.

like this isn't genuine
it's not like we haven't already had analysis on me, we have

it's posturing

[MarioManiac4]

if llama was establishing two scum as a ploy for towncred why hasn't he used it to gain towncred

[MarioManiac4]

i was already leaning towards voting whymafia

he came in and voted me so i was just like "ok cool we can do this"

[MarioManiac4]

also mulch why do i feel like you're keeping your options open for d5?

[MarioManiac4]

I think scum backing down there is something that's very plausible. I had made it clear I was leaning scum on Whymafia. So if we went ahead with lynching Llama, he would have to try and 180 on me in LYLO or kill me. Which is probably a lot harder than just trying to lynch me today (whether that succeeds or doesn't.)

[MarioManiac4]

res

VOTE: Io

Take that!
I've now invalidated whatever this vote count is going to be.

VOTE: io

Self voting is bad

Mulch town.

[MarioManiac4]

Oh holy mother of forced casing.

[MarioManiac4]

Maybe it's because your cases are forced.