Mini Normal 1938 [Game Over]

[Fykus]

VOTE: tchill

Gettin you before you get me. Was a hard choice between you and lovelife

[Fykus]

Sup

Yo holmes

[Fykus]

Was a hard choice between you and lovelife

I wouldn't have blamed you if you voted for me. lol

You broke my heart

[Fykus]

Fykus we shouldn't try to get each other we should try to get scum.

That sounds accusatory

[Fykus]

Lets never fight again :3

[Fykus]

I bet you do.

[Fykus]

Yeah why specifically cloud kicker?

Why not

[Fykus]

Cause rvs is boring. Lets wagon someone and end it (inb4 only scum want to wagon peoplre to finish rvs)

[Fykus]

VOTE: cloud

[Fykus]

I liked your little "argument" for your vote on him so I followed suit.

[Fykus]

VOTE: jord

By wagon someone i didnt mean quick lynch i meant put a few votes on them to get a reaction to end rvs

[Fykus]

VOTE: Tchill13

Scum found.

Care to elaborate?[/quote]

Hey teech, remember our scum game where carca asked someone why they were voting you and it seemed like a scum tell? Do you think this post is the same type of thing or are you town this game?

[Fykus]

VOTE: Tchill13

Scum found.

Care to elaborate?

fixed*

[Fykus]

I only sheep to build pressure. Once rvs is over I'll be making my own cases rather than sheeping people.

[Fykus]

Because you're choosing to ignore the ongoing conversations. Why?

VOTE: lovelife

Too early for the Bull in the China shop.

Badvote

Why note vote him for badvoting then?

[Fykus]

Also not to get into setup spec too early or anything but do you think the lack of mafia daychat indicates a mafia encryptor is around?

[Fykus]

Also not to get into setup spec too early or anything but do you think the lack of mafia daychat indicates a mafia encryptor is around?

Impossible to tell really. I think it's a mod preference but refresh my memory. Mafia encryptor would only allow mafia to talk yes? If town had something like masons/neighbors/cults or whatever they wouldn't benefit from that right? Yes I know cults aren't allowed. Just thinking out loud.

Town would need its own encryptor.

[Fykus]

(also, where can I see the setup matrix or whatever)

There isnt one. Anyone could be any role considered normal

[Fykus]

I guess I misread robb's post since I forgot what day it was, but yeah I dislike his reasoning as well. On the site I'm from an unwillingness to participate in RVS gets you lynched pretty quick because mostly only scum have a reason to not like it.

Thst site sucks.

Lol.

On the site i started my mafia journey everyone had prs and there was a night 0 where noone could die. There was no rvs and day 1 generally ended in a no lynch

[Fykus]

The site I came from is a shit show. Nobod knows what they are doing and we used to lynch people day 1 cause it was "their turn"

Hahaha that sounds pretty wild

[Fykus]

When do we cross the magic threshold when its OK to "throw shade" or be a "bull in a china shop?" How does your ideal Day 1 .

Not before Day 2

My ideal Day 1 is scum says something shady and I call them out and town says Oh hells yeah and we lynch them but only after I peg his buddies by association.

Top kek.
This game is full of laughs so far i love it

Fixed quote tag

[Fykus]

So LL whats your mafia experience

[Fykus]

Speaking of tchill, where is he?

[Fykus]

I think its a case of sheeping to build pressure. Honestly i cant remember and my iso wasnt much help

[Fykus]

So LL whats your mafia experience

Just the last game we played together, now this one. That's it.

Damn thats rough rolling mafia on your second game

[Fykus]

Hey teech have you noticed we're the same alignment as one another in every game?

P.s i think LL is town (if anyone cares)

[Fykus]

VOTE: cloud

Its very relevant

[Fykus]

Whos sof

[Fykus]

[Fykus]

what if we are sorry though?
apparently hes at L-3

[Fykus]

i bet one of em is mefia whos chainsawing sof

Just went back and found out who sof is. Like how does this argument even make sense? How can someone be chainsawing if the person theyre supposedly chainsawing isnt even being pushed?

[Fykus]

UNVOTE: cloud

Not sure whatit is but something tells me he might not be scum. Open to suggestions of who to vote

[Fykus]

The fuck are you on about

[Fykus]

Is the role that wins if its lynched day 1 normal?

[Fykus]

Then why are you trying to bait us into voting you?

[Fykus]

I was holding off cause i thought you were a pr but im sick of you fuck arsing about.

VOTE: cloud

[Fykus]

Probs 3 mafia maybe 1s a pr. There could be up to 4 town prs

[Fykus]

Could be 3 mafia prs depending on their power

[Fykus]

Sorry hop can you quote what you asked please?

[Fykus]

Apologies for my abscence, ill catch up and give thoughts soon

[Fykus]

VOTE: pisskop

I think thats L-2.

I'll work on a readslist in a minute

[Fykus]

sorry, L-1, didnt see there was another page

[Fykus]

Obv-town

lovelife
Virtuoso

prob-town

Havo
Robbnva

null (need to read their slots again)

Backhand
Hopkirk
BlueBloodedToffee
IgnitionUSMC
Tchill13
Sofiel

prob-scum

Cloudkicker
pisskop

readslist in no particular order.

[Fykus]

I'm here and reading through. No one hammer!

Just by looking at this page, I will say that I don't like Fykus' L-1 vote.

sorry, I thought the page before this one was the most recent so i thought it was L-2. Imagine my face when i see someone else had voted and I thought id quick hammered for a second

[Fykus]

@Fykus: you used the phrase quicklynch and I asked you to clarify what you meant since nobody said quicklynch.

I think Fykus was joking about skipping past RVS and quicklynching someone, like how you were with your self-vote.

I think the general consensus at the time was that when i said we should wagon someone they thought that i meant wagon them all the way to a lynch (which wasn't what i meant at the time)

[Fykus]

[/unvote]piss[/unvote]

[Fykus]

UNVOTE: piss

[Fykus]

Welcome to townsville piss.
Ill post some thoughts soon on my smoko break

[Fykus]

VOTE: tchill

Hes definitely not his usual talkative self (bit hypocritical of me to say but its true). Hes wasnt like this as scum when we were scum together but it could be that theres an experienced scum player coaching him into trying not to be noticed.

Once again clouds being really frustrating and almost got my vote. Im not sure if hes a pr that just doesnt give a shit, or a vt thats just not interested in playing or maybe a scum trying to draw a lynch to maybe give town cred to his team or syopping town potentially finding and lynching one of their prs.

[Fykus]

Are you just busy irl or something teech or are you trying a new way of playing?

VOTE: cloud

[Fykus]

All aboard the Fykus wagon!

Stahp

[Fykus]

[Fykus]

Then why me over them, dont you think that also no indication that im town also means no better indication that im scum

Are you just busy irl or something teech or are you trying a new way of playing?

VOTE: cloud

Why did you switch back to cloud after 582, and Tchill voting cloud?

The whole interaction cloud had right before my vote was really unsettling and youll see i asked tchill a question not long after i voted him. I figured i should give him time to answer so i switched my vote. His answer is satisfactory for the moment so ill wait and see if he backs it up with actions.

[Fykus]

Jordash aka pisskop got taken to L-1 but has posted some town seeming things so the wagon stalled and theres the startof one on me for some raisin

[Fykus]

Scum pushing the wagon and people wising up?

[Fykus]

You might be waiting a while

[Fykus]

I dont want to put my vote on somebody that I think will flip town. For a slot that was almost universally scum read pk has done a pretty decent job of getting alot of content out there in the short time that hes been here. I cant pinpoint exactly what it is about him but I've got a pretty big inkling that hes going to flip town if we lynch him.

Cloud on the other hand is one of the most frustrating people I've ever tried to play with. One minute hes acting like he doesnt give 2 shits about the game, then the next hes posting some pretty decent content and flips my read on him upside down. It could just be that I hes posting reads/thoughts that I agree with and that makes me unsure of him, but god damn. I feel like if he just put in a little effort he'd be a massive asset to town.
These two posts from the last page specifically:

i think bbt/tchill are good candidates
Havo should be pushed further
i think fykus has good lines but bad play overall, i think hes probably town whos wrong and scummy

Ignition's vote timing is also so fucking ridiculously scummy for some reasons

For now I'm going to leave my vote here, only because I don't have a stronger read to put it on.

Teech, I'm willing to give you until tomorrow to convince me that you're town, but your lurking (compared to your usual play style of posting a fair bit) is starting to worry me. You said that you WERE busy which implies that you're not anymore, but you're still not posting anymore than before when you presumably were busy.

Piss, teech and cloud I'd like to hear a bit more about your reads if at all possible.

[Fykus]

thats L-1 again.

Hey GR what're your thoughts on the game so far? Got any reads or anything you can talk about?

[Fykus]

p.s teech are you busy again or are you trying out a new quieter playstyle?

[Fykus]

Ok i finally caught up. Im at work but in 40 mins i have smoko so ill make a decent post then.

Right now scum are teech teebs and bbt. Ill explain in 40 mins but ill be voting teech

[Fykus]

Tchill and tb

[Fykus]

Virtuoso aka thinkbig

[Fykus]

Right. So tchill has been unusually quiet this entire game. I asked him about it and he responded that he "was" busy, keyword "was" - his words. Despite this hes continued to be quiet, by estimates maybe a quarter of his normal activity. Even as scum hes more active than this. I decided to give him a chance to see if hed step up but he hasnt.

Now all that is based on meta and meta is shit according to some. So the other thing that pings me is that tchill is seemingly avoiding all questions ive directed at him but even hopkirks brought up the fact hes doing it to him aswell.
As an example at the start of the game i mentioned the fact that me and teech are always the same faction (5 or 6 times so far) - no response. Then just yesterday i ask if hes busy again or if hes trying a new playstyle - no response even though hes posted since then.

This leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions:
-hes not reading the thread
-hes purposely ignoring all the questions directed at him

Either way its really really suss and im done giving him the benefit of the doubt.

VOTE: tchill

Now onto virtuoso aka thinkbig aka tb aka teebs.
Since replacing into the almost conf town necro slot hes done absolutely 0 to uphold that town read status. The only thing hes done is vote me for jumping on or off clouds wagon.

Now tb is a self admitted bad mafia player. I can say that every time ive seen him play scum hes been quiet just like he is this game.

As for bbt its just a gutread regarding his arguments with piss.

[Fykus]

Also i want everyone to take note of teebs' soft vig claim a page or so back with his threat to "deal with me tonight". Not sure if hes baiting for a reaction of i hes serious

[Fykus]

Also teech is l-2

[Fykus]

Teech why must you always accuse me of being a scum every game? It feels like a crutch at this point. I unvoted you and voted cloud to give you a chance to answer a question i asked you. The only other reason you have to scum read me is my lack of posts. What else you got?

[Fykus]

@Fykus: 995 : I don’t get the Virtuso read here. Unless I’m reading wrong, it sounds like you’re saying a town read + neutral stuff makes scum, or even less town. What were you thinking here?
1010 from Ignition: Feels overly cautious. The decision to rethink on Piss comes when the wagon momentum is losing track, so the unvote is oddly timed- as the caution is becoming less necessary.

VOTE: Chilly

Tomorrow we Lynch BUT. Trust me on this.

I don't get why you were thinking BBT would vote his partner at this point.

Virtuoso replaced into a universally townread slot and then did absolutely NOTHING to use that slot to help town advance the game. He could of lead town and we all would of followed but the only thing he did was put a baseless vote on me because I was being more quiet than usual (I'm very quiet as scum because I don't know how to fake scum hunt, I can give you my two scum games to peruse over if you want). Virtuoso has also admitted many times that hes bad at being mafia - I've seen him as scum a couple of times and hes normally very quiet and very suspicious. I thought that his play this game looked similar to his scum play, which is why I voted for him.

Virt soft claimed vig and said he was going to shoot fykus, but maybe he shot PK instead and then was mafia killed. : / If he was our vig, that hurts

Is basically admitting that you haven't read the game a scum tell? This post has got me tossing up between ignition and bbt. Since bbt has more votes ill put my vote there to add some pressure on the slot.

VOTE: bbt

I'll post some more stuff soon. Also its pretty obvious that scum killed virtuoso for the fake vig claim and a vig killed pk so the vig would be one of the pk voters.

[Fykus]

Ok so that sucked, 2 night kills for mafia, and we didnt lynch mafia. With PK and tchill flip I think it safe to say that BBT is scum, after trying to push both of their wagons... the only question is whether or not he is protected.

VOTE: BBT

This comes off as newb scum trying to blend in "oh what a terrible night guys, better luck next time huh?".

I'm very surprised by how fast Fykus got to L-1 though. Does that seem odd to anyone else? Am I really just missing something that obvious about Fykus?

The speed at which my wagon got to L-1 should be proof that I can't be scum but arguing this is just wifom so I'll leave it to everyone else to figure it out.

I suggest that the Vig claim the kill and try to lead the day, i sincerely doubt that the sk went for a VT claim heavily scumread or that mafia killed PK, so im assuming that it was from a town vig

Why would we want the vig to claim so it can just get killed tonight? Even if it were just a 1 shot vig itd be more useful for it to lay low until a later day when town will need a leader than to shoot our wad early and be back in this same position tomorrow.

Also I've changed my mind.

VOTE: ignition

This is definitely the way we should be voting today.

[Fykus]

Is Vig one-shot?

It could be any number of shots. It could be unlimited for all we know.

[Fykus]

unless another pr got outed then theyd probably become tonights kill

[Fykus]

VOTE: bbt

[Fykus]

VOTE: ignition

[Fykus]

Vig should vig bbt tonight

[Fykus]

Itll be fun love. Put you to the test~

[Fykus]

fuck me drunk.

Love and GameReplacement, I need you two to help me out here since you two are my only town reads.

Hop what are your thoughts? Cloud you need to pull your finger out and make me town read you here.

Whoever the fuck the vig is is fucking shit. I'm assuming that the vig killed backhand.

My guess of a scum team would have to be: bbt, rob and either cloud or kirk.

As such:

VOTE: bbt

[Fykus]

who were your shots? why would you even make said shots if you havent read the fucking game?

[Fykus]

Votecount 1.20(Lynch)

Tchill13 (7/7)

: [/b]Hopkirk,

pisskop

,

Backhand

, CloudKicker,

Fykus

,

BlueBloodedToffee

, Game Replacement

pisskop(3/7)

:

lovelife,

Havo

,

Virtuoso

Fykus (1/7)

:

Tchill13

Not Voting (2):

Robbnva,

IgnitionUSMC

Spoiler: Tchill13 was a

Vanilla Townie

[Fykus]

well that didnt work. fuck me.

[Fykus]

Votecount 1.20(Lynch)

Tchill13

(7/7):

Hopkirk,

pisskop

,

Backhand

, CloudKicker,

Fykus

,

BlueBloodedToffee

, Game Replacement

pisskop

(3/7):

lovelife,

Havo

,

Virtuoso

Fykus

(1/7):

Tchill13

Not Voting (2):

Robbnva,

IgnitionUSMC

[Fykus]

excluding love cause hes obv town, the pool of scum is therefore:

GR, Rob, hopkirk and cloud.

we lynch one today, we vig one tonight, and then its e z p z win for us.

I guess we'll discuss your shot choices after the game.

UNVOTE: bbt

[Fykus]

also apologies for my greening on the votecount re: virtuoso, he should be green not blue.

[Fykus]

Votecount 2.5(Lynch)

IgnitionUSMC

(6/6):

Cloudkicker,

BlueBloodedToffee

,

Fykus

, Robbnva

Backhand

, lovelife

BlueBloodedToffee

(3/6):

havo

, Game replacement,

IgnitionUSMC

Fykus

(1/6):

Hopkirk

Spoiler: IgnitionUSMC was a

Vanilla Townie

[Fykus]

VOTE: rob

I'm gonna go ahead and claim.
I'm gunsmith. I have a no gun result on GR. At first I was iffy as to whether or not he could possibly be a mafia doctor to throw my results off, but I think having the vig in the game is the red herring here intended to throw my results off.

[Fykus]

assuming im right re: there being no mafia doctor that means the mafia team is rob, cloud and kirk.

[Fykus]

so who is the scum in your place?

[Fykus]

I checked havo last night cause I didn't count on him getting killed so basically i have 1 result.

[Fykus]

so who is the scum in your place?

We'll if cloud doesn't confirm me it's him. The last one idk

there are only a few people excluding yourself who could be scum.

love, gr, kirk and cloud.

[Fykus]

yes

[Fykus]

I thought he was fairly obv-town but I wanted to make sure plus clearing him would give town an advantage. I didn't expect him to be the night kill though. I checked GR because I figured piss would die night one because he was obv town (I wanted to check him because he was the counter wagon).

[Fykus]

Looks like you've got a choice to make bbt, do you believe me or kirk?

[Fykus]

VOTE: kirk

[Fykus]

So what, we've got 1 flipped pr and 4 claimed prs now?

[Fykus]

vig, gunsmith, bp, and "something cloud will confirm if hes town"

[Fykus]

im going to bed.
gonna say that scum is definitely cloud rob and kirk. lets lynch rob, vig kirk and then lynch ill gs cloud tonight for a lynch tomorrow.

[Fykus]

I got does not have a gun result for havo and gr.

Cloud rob and kirk are all full of shit, its plain to see

[Fykus]

You really think a gs, vig, joat and neighborizer could all exist in this game?

[Fykus]

I really cant see love as scum though unless hes a very good actor. Rob should know if theres day talk or not since he can fuckin neighborise people. And the part where hes like "if cloud is town he'll confirm my role".

Id bet that there is a mafia encryptor on the scum team and that its rob.

[Fykus]

I dont think theres a mafia doc because the vig exists to throw my results off.

Since we cant agree on tge exact scum team but we all have a common scum lets lynch it.

VOTE: cloud

Also awaiting loves return and claim

[Fykus]

VOTE: love

why love? you were supposed to be the chosen one!

[Fykus]

because love scum claimed.

[Fykus]

everyone else seems to agree on love today so theres not much use on me holding out trying to get you lynched, we can do you tomorrow.

[Fykus]

good thinking - shoot you tonight, lynch kirk tomorrow since he may be bp.

[Fykus]

ok so if you're town then who is the last scum?

[Fykus]

My alignement isnt mutually exclusive with me knowing whos the last mefia

Yeah it is. Theres only a couple of candidates on who it could be so i want you to convince me on who it is

[Fykus]

Yo beebt, shoot cloud tonight

[Fykus]

So youre saying that im scum? Lol good grief

[Fykus]

Gg. Sorry for lynching you teech. I tried to give you a chance but you werent very forthcoming with responses