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Post Post #3073 (isolation #221) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:05 am

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can't all be cutesy stuff
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #228) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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Post Post #3081 (isolation #229) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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Post Post #3082 (isolation #230) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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Post Post #3083 (isolation #231) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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Post Post #3084 (isolation #232) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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I might not actually have commitment to do this for hours
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Post Post #3085 (isolation #233) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 am

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Post Post #3086 (isolation #234) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:07 am

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But maybe I do
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #235) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:07 am

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Post Post #3089 (isolation #236) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:11 am

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In post 3088, Nexus wrote:
Consider this an official List moderator warning. Stop.
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Post Post #3144 (isolation #237) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:03 am

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In post 3143, Mulch wrote:The thing is I just blatantly defended tictac early game
Lol yeah.
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Post Post #3145 (isolation #238) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:03 am

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plz release scumtopic soom.
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Post Post #3146 (isolation #239) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:05 am

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Yeah. That 'slip' was 100% intentional :lol:

It was supposed to implicate you, but Backhand worked as well.
I was so worried if it was gonna work :P
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Post Post #3149 (isolation #240) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 am

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Backhand was the only one who thought I might have done it on purpose. I was really impressed.
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Post Post #3150 (isolation #241) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:13 am

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In post 3147, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i can give you access back if needed to check for redactions
Nah. I just think it's a fun read, and people should see.
Don't need to redact anything.
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Post Post #3153 (isolation #242) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:30 am

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[/quote]Yea, I think this is the final version.
Even if I do get lynched, should look good on you :P

This was supposed to be the bit people would focus on tho.
I'm not sure how much it worked on accidents of timing instead.
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Post Post #3155 (isolation #243) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:31 am

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And also Titus having a super-convenient claim.
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Post Post #3156 (isolation #244) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:35 am

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This was actually very fun, which I really didn't expect a scum-game to be.
I still can't believe we won.
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Post Post #3157 (isolation #245) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:40 am

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@Chill & Fish
Please release the neighborhood?
I wanna seeeee!
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Post Post #3158 (isolation #246) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:44 am

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In post 3154, Game Replacement wrote:Thanks for being a top mod, Giga
^This

So very much.
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Post Post #3159 (isolation #247) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:51 am

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Also sorry for the sheer amount of bunnies, to whomever felt the need to call Nexus.
I meant to be slightly annoying there but certainly not to
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I wrote a bit about my feelings at the moment in scum-pt, ya should read once it releases.
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #248) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:12 am

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Thanks Mulch for being fun scumpartner.
Nar was also fun to panic about Leaf with, whatever else he may be.
Thank you Titus for replacing in quickly to a LYLO situation. I had a moment of utter panic when I thought I would be facing a 5p with an empty slot as a partner.
I was probs gonna try to policy yer slot if ya had taken just a few hours more.

pedit: :D
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #249) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:10 am

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In post 2844, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2842, tictac wrote:
In post 2840, Flavor Leaf wrote:while trying to slowly get help pushing his scum agenda.
Can ya expand on this?
What is my scum agenda?
And this post is you getting a little upset someone is pushing you for semi bs reasons when you really had no pressure before.
In post 2843, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2842, tictac wrote:
In post 2840, Flavor Leaf wrote:while trying to slowly get help pushing his scum agenda.
Can ya expand on this?
What is my scum agenda?
mislynching, essentially. It's why you're buddying up to Fishy. Help fishy get his lynch, then swap and side with the others later and set your mislynch up for Fishy.
This was right.
If ya focus on quality of reasoning ya just as likely to lynch town-me.
People always find my thoughts hard to follow, but doesn't mean I don't catch scum.
(also point on Uzi was super strong, only made in intentionally hard to get way.)
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #250) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:18 am

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Ya win on pretty much everything else one needs to be scum.
Not actually sure int is a plus there.
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Post Post #3170 (isolation #251) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 3166, Tchill13 wrote:I'd like to know how I should play a neighborhood opposed to what I did this game.
Fakeclaim PR on night 1 and see if ya die.
If ya don't ya got a mason-friend 4 life.
(link this post if they call ya scum for fakeclaiming)
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Post Post #3171 (isolation #252) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:38 am

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Or just go "Who do ya think a cop should check in this situation? I got no idea" and don't actually claim anything.
Implying things is often more believable.
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Post Post #3209 (isolation #253) » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:50 am

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In post 3179, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i was expecting tictac to be lynched very early on with how he was talking about his play but I think he made the best of a situation and helped his team win.
Aww, thanks :)
And yeah, I spent most of the game trying to get my team to bus me, but they never wanted to. Finally I found a way to self-bus :lol:
I'm still not very good at looking town, but I think I did find other things to compensate for it.
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Post Post #3210 (isolation #254) » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 408, tictac wrote:Sooo tempted to just lolhammer fish.
This would have been such hilariousness had I done it
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Oh, yeah. This is a thing I almost did.
I forgot that iDany had a vote down on fish and was gonna go "VOTE: fish LOL"
after Narn already hammered


Saved by Giga happening to be online when I was debating with myself and doing the flip :lol:

Almost would have been worth it for the funny-value.
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Post Post #3211 (isolation #255) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:05 am

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mm.
This seems to be done.
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #256) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:05 am

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Post Post #3214 (isolation #257) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:07 am

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So much for my cool exit LOL. :lol:

I did read the neighborhood.
I think ya did fine with it.

Maybe be free-er with sharing reads? The reads of a single person are not really that important for scum to know.
tbh. I didn't like fish "do this or else" attitude about it, and I probs would not have gone along either. It's a playstyle thing tho, and not really scummy unless the person is otherwise reasonable.

Some people get a large benefit reads-wise from free exchange of ideas, but that is a select crowd, and I don't think either fish or you are members.
Neighborhood is also a good place to speculate about things it would be anti-town to talk about in the open. (like PR spec). It's pretty unlikely that ya giving away any info that scumteam doesn't already have, since they gonna be specifically looking for that stuff anyways.

Next time don't go along with people because ya think ya gonna get NK'd otherwise. Getting KN'd is a good thing as VT and that is basically what a neighbor is.

If ya gambiting in the main thread and yer target doesn't seem to be partners with yer target, say ya are gambiting in the neighborhood. Then yer neighbor can bail ya out if it goes wrong?

Alternatively ya might consider doing the Mastina thing and simply treating it like a masonry from the start.
The potential damage done if you are wrong can be much smaller than the potential benefit if ya happen to be right.
Ya need a partner who would be willing to go along with it tho.

Ya might get a kick out of reading this:
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I was scum JOAT with Piper with a neighborizer shot, and I neighborized them on the logic of "if we were scumpartners, that is simply an insane thing to do".
We used it for a townie-larping basically, but I think it's pretty much what I would try to do in an actual neighborhood.

(I simulated a version of the neighborhood gambit I talked about earlier. Plan was this: "neighborize night1; fakeclaim stronger JOAT without BP and use BP night2; claim guilty on neighbor if there is skipped kill". By happenstance I 'caught' my scumpartner with it, but obviously didn't claim the 'result' in main thread. :P)
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Post Post #3215 (isolation #258) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:17 am

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Basically, neighborhood is a place where ya can say stuff ya know will get ya scumreads in the main thread, but that ya know your neighbor doesn't scumread.
Being familiar with the person ya are talking with is a HUGE benefit.
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Post Post #3216 (isolation #259) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:54 am

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More specifically about yer clash with fish:

I think it was a mismatch of playstyles, and there was nothing really ya could have done to prevent it since "be a completely different person" isn't really a thing anyone can do.

If ya can foresee things going in similar direction there is nothing wrong with saying "I don't think this neighborhood is gonna be at all useful and I'm not gonna write anything in here". It is a pretty common attitude to neighborhoods in general.
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Post Post #3217 (isolation #260) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:13 am

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I tried to find stats on how common t+t neighborhoods actually are versus t+s neighborhoods.
Couldn't find any on cursory search, but my intuition is that t+t is way more common.
That isn't
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #261) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:00 am

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Ya. tbh I probs would have as well without the info-POW.

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