♡☭☆ Mini Normal 1933 - Shiba Inus! - Game Over!☆☭♡

[Formerfish]

Uzi, agree or disagree. Last game we won because we had a pool of town confirmed people based off role interactions?

[Formerfish]

Mulch is a bullshit check becuase you were never going to learn anything from it. You see that right. He claimed not vanilla and he investigated not vanilla. But somehow he is scum for saying you are vanilla when he as a not vanilla person used his not vanilla power to check and see you were vanilla. See why im having a problem giving a single fuck about what you have to say here'
?

[Formerfish]

You should have checked an unclaimed person. You would have either gotten confirmed town, or most likely scum. With Mulch you get nothing, but you want to push it like it someothing. You didnt do a fucking thing last night but jerk it in your scum pt.

[Formerfish]

Our objective is to find scum. Yeah the chance of confirming town is nice but this is a mini. I'm not guarantee to live through the night. If I can catch one of the most active players in either a lie or put him in a box, why not?

Confirming town limits the available scum pool, Where the fuck did you learn how to play where they didnt teach you the importance of having a limited pool of options. Its is literfuckinfly how we won our last game by having confirmed people. You fucking helped with that as an actual neo who used his role to help town.

I'm trying to explain to you that even if I checked a random player or someone not Mulch, there is no guarantee I would've lived past Night 1. Even if I did, 1 clear doesn't solve the game.

Who thinks about who they are investigating in respects to what if i die. what the fuck is this shit?

Ninja- I do not believe you. Stop talking to me about this because nothing you say is goin gto change my mind. An act of god could occur and I would tell that bearded bastard to fuck off like i am satying to you. I have caught scum and you should just self vote and move this fucker along. Next day [hase please, I have some tchill to warm up and hang.

[Formerfish]

Transcend, you better get your ass in here and sheep me since i did all the fucking work for you.

transcend replaced out and can't come back - he's in the dead pt.

[Formerfish]

Like I just can't lol

For those who haven't checked in, please try to understand what I'm saying.

Oh dont worry man, Ill make sure to explain it to each and every one of the in detail.

[Formerfish]

And you cant because you are caught scum and what the fuck do you do at that point except act incredulous and aloof?

[Formerfish]

Transcend, you better get your ass in here and sheep me since i did all the fucking work for you.

transcend replaced out and can't come back - he's in the dead pt.

Fuck i forgot that happened., we got comm from that right?

[Formerfish]

no comm replaced rb

[Formerfish]

Alright, well since no one else is around im heading out.

Uzi, im sorry it had to be this way, you just rolled scum. No hard feelings, all in the game man, you do what you have to do to stave off your death, and ill be here now and then to make sure your days are numbered.

[Formerfish]

Care to comment on anything else? Like Uzi?

[Formerfish]

You wanted me to lynch scum. Join me on Uzi.

[Formerfish]

Then why are you telling me in the other that you thought Uzi was scum. And mulch never fake claimed.

[Formerfish]

Ok, so you're just scum. Good to know. K, thanx, bye.

[Formerfish]

It's probably Uzi/chill/leaf.

[Formerfish]

Fish out.

[Formerfish]

If we're going by the good player argument, why is there just no critical thinking in regards to why the fuck would I do this as scum?

Because you panicked and fucked up. Good players fuck up. I've fucked up as scum before. Got lynched because of it. Learned from my mistake. You fake claimed the same role you had last game. The odds are significantly in opposition to you actually having that role. The fact that you used it wisely and correctly last game and here suddenly you forget how to use the role in the best way here is bullshit.

[Formerfish]

Oh... My... Lord. I swear if we mislynch uzi instead of scum lynching mulch then every single towny is to blame on this loss. Every, single, one.

This.

The game is over if I get lynched today, especially with rb and Transcend having had subbed out.

Appeal to fear. Oh no, the game could be over on day 2 if we lynch you, oh my.

[Formerfish]

How would a vt or not vt result on him confirmed Mulch as town?

Vanilla Townie is town no?

Are you scum? What the fuck?

Uzi, this is the type of posting that makes me fervently believe you are scum. You know that's not how the role works or how it was designed to be used. You are playing dumb right now and it is unbecoming.

[Formerfish]

Why would uzi as scum stir up anything when I was obviously gonna get lynched?... Why? Before you say "it's because yall are the scum team" Why wouldn't he have just bussed at that point? Formerfish said uzi is a smart player. Bussing would have been a smarter play. There's literally no need for uzi to fake claim in that situation.

This!!

Quote your scum buddy as evidence for you. Who gives a shit?

[Formerfish]

Uzi, did you have a stroke and need us to send you help?

[Formerfish]

He will get lynched. If you flip town. You should be good with that 1v1 as town.

[Formerfish]

Trust me, if Mulch doesn't get lynched he will endgame town.

Keep fear mongering I love it. Makes my job so much easier.

[Formerfish]

No I'm not bevause I know Mulch. He will weasel out.

Ok. Super.

How are you going to get a result sitting in a jail cell?

[Formerfish]

You can't confirm Tchill, what the fuck are you smoking bro?

[Formerfish]

Jailkeeper targets who they think is scum and blocks kill..

I thought your first post said to jk you to save you. Still is a shit plan that we won't be doing.

I am a town neighbor. I would show up as not vt to you. So will Tchill. Get your head out of your fucking ass Uzi, I'm getting tired of this stichtk from you.

[Formerfish]

Nah. You today. Tchill tomorrow, we are good.

[Formerfish]

Uzi shut up.

[Formerfish]

There is a chance Chill is town and Uzi was hoping to get a 2 for 1.

If this were true Uzi shuts his mouth and let's me railroad townchill. That didn't happen here because chill is scum.

[Formerfish]

Yes, you did. Luv claims nepotiliatan that checked a power role lmaaao

There is literally nothing wrong with this lol

Yes, there is something very wrong with it. The fact that you don't see it makes it so much worse.

[Formerfish]

I'm not upset at all. I'm using my deductive logic to conclude that you are lying scum. This isn't about emotion. It is about odds and numbers. That's what you are failing to get. You 1v1 mulch and don't like the fact that it's not going the way you hoped. I am playing this the smartest way for town right now.

[Formerfish]

And there is also something wrong with thinking I'd try to shift the wagon of tchill here as scum.

If chill is scum you save your partner from death while trying to mislynch mulch. Makes sense to me.

[Formerfish]

And there is something wrong with believing that I'm a good player and thinking I'm not going out my result when I know I'm not vanilla.

I'm actually having a hard time reconciling you as a good player right now because from either side of the aisle you are playing objectively like shit.

[Formerfish]

Smartest move is not killing a joat today.

[Formerfish]

Because it's not the best. Ever. Never ever. You should have attempted to town clear someone. You didn't. That's fucking mafia 101.

[Formerfish]

I do not believe you are a cop. I do not believe you are a PR. I believe you are scum goon. Do you get it or should I post in smaller more understandable words for you?

[Formerfish]

But lynching essentially a cop is smarter after we already lost our watcher?!

Fear mongering.

You keep repeating the same tricks here. No one is buying. Look at how bad Alisae played out his last day in our game, he was doing better than you here.

[Formerfish]

How is the hammer any more suspicious that Dany popping in and out of the thread to throw down shitty votes. Uzi saw scum there, I feel obligated to believe that now, and his vote on 2mil was shady as fuck yo.

[Formerfish]

Also iirc multiple people said they'd hammer if a wagon got to l-1, transcend was an other. I would think it be more scummy to know that and to quietly ring someone up to l-1 in anticipation of a townie lol hammering after they said they were going to.

I think Dany is today's lynch.

VOTE: Dany

[Formerfish]

Fish, you were all up on tchill before the mulch/LUV stuff, does him taking LUV's side push him townie to you?

Yes, for now. I don't see him pushing the mulch the way he did as scum. The only reason would be to pocket me. If he is trying to pocket me then I'm going to let him until he is wrong. If he helps us lynch scum he lives.

[Formerfish]

Fish, why does town Mulch claims to have had scum reads on Dany and tchill and believes they're better lynch candidates but checks me?

First, this is the post I was thinking about. I had the person wrong, it was mulch that scum read you. Since scum will throw out a buddies name and I am currently town reading Tchill that helps me feel better about my vote even with messing up some of the details.

[Formerfish]

UNVOTE:

UNVOTE:

first to L1 gets hammered unless it's myself

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

What's your read there, Dany?

His vote on tchill sucks 'I don't see any pro town reason for a neighbor to lurk. He's not a cop or a doctor or a super important role. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he's scum.' What is this?
He also voted rb for being obvscum but when rb puts a vote onto me he jumps onto it. I just see him jumping onto any wagon and seeing what sticks.

This succession of posts suck. You unvote at 1230, come in like 700 posts later without saying shit, right after someone posted that as soon as a lynch, any lynch other than his own, gets to l-1 he is going to hammer. Your naked ass shit vote came in on 2mil to put him to l-2.

No offense Tchill, but the optimal play was to not kill the enabler and go after someone more likely to be scum at the time. The way you went about coming onto that wagon was bad Dany, and youre probably scum for it.

[Formerfish]

That last part isn't directed at Tchill, it's saying I think that Tchill was the optimal lynch day 1.

[Formerfish]

Well let's see, the day ended quickly on day 1 after you made that post. Day 2 was all about mulch and Uzi, after I came in pushing Tchill for what I though was a save by counter wagon on town (the one you helped push through day 1), day 3 was over in like 4 posts and I didn't even have a chance to see the thread opened up.

Where would I have just casually thrown out there that I also had a scumbag feeling from you. It's grown to be a scum read over fucking g days man.

[Formerfish]

Because I am townreading chill now, and in retrospect of what else has taken place in the game your behavior is looking more and more scum motivated.

You get that reads can change based on new info right? K, just checking.

[Formerfish]

Just realized something else, Mulch was the one that brought all this up on day 2 in a classic case of scum buddies trying to distance themselves from each other.

[Formerfish]

Reads can change but it's not natural to got from 100% scum to town reading someone for Tchill going for Mulch over LUV. I agree that makes him townier but it is not enough to clear him. You were convinced he was scum not that he had some scummy posts so it is unnatural for you read to switch like that over something that could easily be faked.

You haven't explained why my vote on TIAM is scummy? Is it scummy to want someone you think is scum lynched? You could of said you scum read me at the start of the day. This scumread of yours did not start on Day 1/2/3 it started now since you posted the scumteam of Uzi/Chilli/Leaf in 2526.

I did explain that, i think it is scummy because you knew that people were itching for a lynch and you pushed him further on bullshit reasons. Thats my explination. Dont like it, oh well. And I had another 2 night phases with tchill to change my read. Shit happened in our pt that makes me town read him now, and his pushing on mulch is allowing him some leeway. Again a lot has changed in the game state, my reads may not seem transparent in here but thats only because of shortened day phases. Dany were you on the mulch lynch?

[Formerfish]

And Dany what reasons do you have for voting me? OMGUS? If i iso you what am i going to find in there to support a sudden scum read on me?

[Formerfish]

Forgot about FF

Dislike bot his votes in 476 and his vote in 529. I disagree with his 538 and 541 would like an explanation for both. His 'what if i told you that i have reason to believe that there is a good chance that chill is scum?' in 616 needs explanation. Why do you think rb is being truthful compared to monkey in 665 and remember that you just townread him in 616. Again in 679 he attacks monkey for doing the same things that rb has been doing.

Still feel the same way about my votes knowing where my head was? 538- you dont have to agree with me. I really only see scum using that as a tactic. I am very aware that I could be wrong. 541- it felt fake to me. but i can agree that maybe I was just working myself up. I took a step back and saw something I could work with mulch on. Ive expanded on chilly. I feel like rb was coming off as very natural and not forced. My brother says that he can read me based off my sense of humor. rb would have passed his test where monkey would have fell flat. For me it was all about how monkey came in, his first 3 posts left a very bad taste in my mouth.

Dany, did i miss your response to this post? Cause I feel like maybe you were just trying to look llike you gave a shit about what was going on, but only for what other people could see and base judgement off of. You quickly moved away from this withouth as much as a peep towards my response.

[Formerfish]

@Flavor Leaf

Could you expand on your read on FF?

@Tchill

Do my post not mean anything to you? Doesn't the fact the FF said he was scum reading me from the end of day 1 but when he posts his scum pool I am absent impact you in anyway?

I said I thought the vote was scummy. The way the rest of the game has played out since day 1 has made you more scummy in my eyes. You know it's day 4 right? A lot of shit has happened since I started to form my reads on day 1. It's going to not make the most sense because even with a guilty you guys ran mulch up pretty quickly.

Does it bother anyone else that we had a tracker enabler and no tracker yet? The kill last night makes me think the scum are or hunting in our inactives and unclaimed people.

If we have a tracker it makes sense for scum to run days up as quickly as possible to prevent actions from being outed, and then trying to take out the tracker at night.

[Formerfish]

Yes, if you haven't could you read my 2728 and if you have can you tell me what I missed?

You've explained your read after the fact on both 2mil and me now. Show me in your iso where you even fucking mention me before today started. You know how many mentions I get 1. From day fucking 1. So show me your natural progression to me being scum that doesn't involved me talking about you.

[Formerfish]

What's my scum motivation at outing the neighborhood if I were scum and chill was town? I push chill and he flips town I am power lynched the next day with how hard I pushed him. I have come off of that because of something he did in our pt and the results of that something make me trust him more. It's a limited trust since I am a paranoid person by design, but if he continues to help us lynch scum I dont care.

[Formerfish]

Aight, so I've skimmed. Can I get a rundown on the claimed roles? I've looked at all the vote counts and what not.

@Dany - I'm mislynch bait and likely wouldn't have been here to defend myself is why whereas if Transcend's spot was a PR, he'd be able to fight a lynch.

Nah youre probably just scum trying to fly under the radar.

I'll get to the rest of this after work, it was a fucking hell of a night and I'm sitting down to have a biobreak.

[Formerfish]

FF is likely scum. I know a clever scummy fish when i see one. I'm going to look through tchill's ISO because that may be scum as well.

Yeah, you know me? I don't know you, and why dont you go ahead and explain why I am scum. Have you read the entire game yet? Last I remember from you was on day 1 posting bullshit.

[Formerfish]

You explain your read before this post all you said was that they suck. You said people were itching for a lynch and me pushing that makes me scum, why am I scummy for wanting to lynch but not the players that were itching for a lynch?

You are scummy to me based off of your play this entire game. Added to the fact that we are getting into POE territory as well. Personally I can see it being more scummy to silently vote someone they know is the leading wagon with other people who have already made their intent known.

Again you asy my reasons where bullshit, but what about them is bullshit, TIAM scumread tchill for lurking in the neighborhood but that is not a good reason to scum read him. He votes me me because rb did but he also scum read rb, he was also a vote hopping with no describable scum hunting. What is bullshit about this reasoning?

He was a ckaimed fucking power role. The lynch on day 1 should have been tchill (again, no offense intended), 2mil was a bad lynch obviously and your vote on it comes off as very scummy.

I say you read from 100% scum reading tchill to town reading is scummy and you say 'shit happened in out pt.' If you did have a reason for that transition why not tell us? You also say your giving him some leeway, going from scum to town is not leeway, leeway is still being suspicious of him but not tunneling him.

Its partly how insistent he was about mulch in the pt, if scum then he would have been setting up a huge pocket with me. Another part is that he reaction tested me and it came off as town to me. He pushed Mulch and mulch came up scum. I am giving him leeway because he pushed mulch. I am still paranoid so its not like im going to let him mislynch a bunch of people before second guessing my second guessing.

Now you are saying your reads are not transparent but they are, you lied.

No, i didnt. I was explaining that i could understand that there were bits missing since they were happening in the pt and not being relayed here 100%

You said you scum read since my vote in TIAM but I show that this is false because you scum read Uzi/Chilli/Leaf in 2526.

That doesnt prove anything. I can think something is scummy without saying it. At the time Uzi fucked his action, chilly was being weird, and leaf is probably still scum, but that means that 2 out of my 3 are wrong and need to be filled in by someone. Mulch filled one of those and you could very well be the 3rd.

Now your saying I OMGUS voted you but I have explained my reasons for scum reading you and they have only strengthened through our conversation.

You explained them after the fact with barely a mention of me before in the thread. You directed a single post my way, and then failed to respond to it since then. So, yeah, when I laid out why i think you are scum and voted you only to have you vote me in return screamed omgus bro.

I don't understand what your accusing me of in 2726, I didn't push you further because I was pushing rb.

I am accusing you of attempting to look busy. Fake scum hunting. You make a post of accusations, i respond, you never do anything with it or even acknowledge that i responded to you. And are you saying that you can only follow one avenue of investigation or inquiry at a time? I find that hard to believe especially when that line of inquiry was one you initiated.

[Formerfish]

@Flavor Leaf

Could you expand on your read on FF?

@Tchill

Do my post not mean anything to you? Doesn't the fact the FF said he was scum reading me from the end of day 1 but when he posts his scum pool I am absent impact you in anyway?

Take your words out of my mouth. I said that eventually I started to scum read you and that in retrospect your vote on the 2mil

mislynch

was suspect, and i have since explained why. Dont misrep me, I dont like that.

[Formerfish]

UNVOTE:

Yeah that doesn't look good on his part. Are you suggesting he's scum? His case on you did make sense.

That didnt take you long to flip flop on me.

[Formerfish]

Tchill/formerfish, what are your thoughts about the interactions with mulch around post 500? I hadn't really registered on my first read that mulch had got to L-3. There's no real counterwagon that seemed to obviously form, but I wasn't actually in the game at that point. . . looking back and knowing that mulch was scum, does that give you any ideas?

I think i talked about this before. I could see mulch have been stepping in as a goon to his scum pr buddy to take the heat off of him. Game was going after tic tac i think with his first 1v1, and thats when mulch stepped in, lost his fucking mind and set off the claimapalooza day 1 became.

[Formerfish]

Once people put their two cents in on this situation I feel like we'll catch scum.

I think its time for a mass claim as well.

[Formerfish]

You read is unnatural to me because it all happened in your neighborhood.

And ive admitted that i can see why that happened and have explained it a bit better, i hope. Would you agree or disagree with that? Does it make more sense now? Why not talk to tchill if you feel you arent getting what you want from me, he was there too.

My read is more natural because when you said something I thought was scummy I pushed on it where as you waited until 2 days had passed to mention it. This could of been due to the game state though as you mentioned. I also pushed you on day 1 but my push here and my push here are based on different things.

You pushed me day 1? Where?

So far you have only mentioned my day 1 play as scummy so you should of been scum reading me from then, If you weren't scum reading me then what pushed me into a scum read and why?

Dude, you have like 37 posts, tomorrow I will break you down post by post to show why I think you could be scum. You iso me and show me where you think i have acted as scum. Or just iso yourself for mentions of me. You will find it surprisingly sparse of fish mentions until today, after i said shit about you.

If you think scum are targeting the inactive's why do you think they chose Transcend's spot over Flavor leaf who had no game content.

Because leaf is likely scum and wont be nked. And of course thats what they are fucking doing. They left me alive because they hope I push tchill or tchill is scum and is attempting a pocket, and all the other claimed prs are dead right? But then there is that pesky enabler, wheres the tracker? Scum is tracker hunting in the unclaimed.

You turn on scum Tchill to town doesn't seem as bad now, If you were scum you could of easily came in here and pushed Tchill, the change doesn't make as much sense coming from scum. This does point to you being town but it depends on how you answer when and how your read on me changed after day 1.

Honestly mulch brought it up, and the more i looked at your play the more i saw that as distancing from him. Then I looked at the way you voted on 2mil and saw the scum motivation in that.

[Formerfish]

Well jeez, this games turned into a snooze fest.

[Formerfish]

This is hilarious. So what Tchill, you're scum here realizing that by poe your mislynch options are dwindling and you need to keep me open as an option.

I have explained why my read changed and how it changed. I have said that you as town to me until you show otherwise. You were right about mulch and I was wrong about Uzi, but you can't say that my reasoning was bad because it wasn't.

And why would I get upset and rage in the pt about being the night kill. I was relieved to know I had 2 of the 3 scum nailed and that my death and town flip would probably lead to your seeing rope in the near future, as a neighbor I feel like I would have done my job and we would only have 1 more scum left to smoke out. I explained that in the other and then you tell me it was all a reaction test and that I passed. You then told me that as long as my reasoning was sound for you would follow me.

Explain how in the fuck you've come to the conclusion of me being scum after the game I've played so far. Where is the scum motivation in my play so far?

Chilly, if this is another reaction test then come on out and say it. If you want to 1v1 me today then let's dance brother.

[Formerfish]

You are a completely different player in our pt. I've explained in there and I'm here multiple times about why my read on you changed. We talk overnight about Dany being most likely scum and then when I come in here and push it you backed out and got cold feet on me again, and then you talked about how you were just attempting to buddy up to Dany.

You are all over the place, I'm saying the same thing in here and in there. Which one has more scum motivation to it?

And the reaction test in the pt, I think it was bullshit. It's probably you and leaf and you were going to kill me and I scared you by breaking down exactly why that was a bad idea. That's why you went with an unclaimed cause I mentioned the lack of a tracker to you in the pt.

VOTE: Tchill

Unless you inactive fucks come up with definitive scum, this is the matchup today. I'm willing to die for this chilly, are you?

[Formerfish]

were you guys neighbors from beginning or did someone get neighborized?

We started in it, we don't know each other's alignment.

[Formerfish]

I mean chilly, some of those reaction tests posts were just too on the money. Like when you explained that I was going to be nked and the lynch option for the next day was rb since why wouldn't he did a second night. You and mulch had distanced enough to gain town cred for his death.

That sounds like scum unloading on who they were going to kill to be cheeky fucks. Then realizing it was a bad idea and how bad you just fucked up.

[Formerfish]

So you walked it all back and claimed reaction test and went pretty hunting instead while trying to pocket me and then turn on me at your earliest opportunity.

[Formerfish]

Oh yeah, which part is the lie?

[Formerfish]

Think real hard chilly, right now I am leaning very much into definitely scum territory on you. If you live here it is going to be nothing but definitive after that point. You realize that right? Lying here equals your destruction.

[Formerfish]

So you are claiming that you never told me that I was going to be the NK, and RB was going to be pushed the next day?

[Formerfish]

Mod: how much detail can I go into about posts from the pt?

[Formerfish]

How is that a response to what we are discussing here?

"Alright, I see where I did exactly what you said I did, but hey my story based off that was pretty compelling right?"

Your case sucks and you're reaching scum right now. It's cool everyone will see when they come in and will vote you.

[Formerfish]

Last night.

[Formerfish]

Wait, no.

[Formerfish]

Hold on, let me compare time stamps.

[Formerfish]

It was over this past weekend. Comm was the kill that night, mulch the lynch the next day. The night kinda ran together because I at least missed the day phase. Last night we talked about Dany being scum.

[Formerfish]

Because I know I'm town and this is a bad push from him. He is literally flip floppity from here to there and vice versa. But fuck it, lynch me and then him when I flip town.

He literally tried to accuse me of lying and then found the very post he, what?, Forgot about?

[Formerfish]

OK.

So townFormerfish has this "confession" happen--either he believes that tchill was telling the truth or that it was a reaction test. He comes out and votes danyboy and doesn't mention this thing at all. At that point, you had to believe it was a town reaction test--like tchill as scum saying this and not actually killing you with two opportunities to do so is insane. Yet you turn on him when he attacks you? Doesn't track from a town perspective, I don't see how you can believe tchill is scum based on what you've said.

VOTE: Formerfish

If scum chill can convince me he is town and that he will sheep me why wouldn't scum keep me alive?

[Formerfish]

Makes me think Dany is town here on a chill scum flip.

[Formerfish]

Chill whispers scum reads into my ear, I talk about it here, he distances himself from me publicly while holding my dick in private.

[Formerfish]

Okay... You're case makes just as much sense. I'm in an odd spot because both the cases make sense. I also have no idea who the last scum would be if either of you flipped scum.

Also, this is in response to Dany/me chasing each other. How does he go from this to me being scum?

[Formerfish]

And my case on Dany as scum seems to make sense? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[Formerfish]

Because I know I'm town and this is a bad push from him. He is literally flip floppity from here to there and vice versa. But fuck it, lynch me and then him when I flip town.

He literally tried to accuse me of lying and then found the very post he, what?, Forgot about?

Uh yeah, probably he did forget about it. Even if he is scum it doesn't make sense to try to lie about something you can so easily fact-check and isn't really relevant to the main point.

Cause he was weighing his options. He knows I can't quote or screenshot it or prove it was made one way or the other. He was testing the waters to see how much is push back on him, see who's more believable.

OK.

So townFormerfish has this "confession" happen--either he believes that tchill was telling the truth or that it was a reaction test. He comes out and votes danyboy and doesn't mention this thing at all. At that point, you had to believe it was a town reaction test--like tchill as scum saying this and not actually killing you with two opportunities to do so is insane. Yet you turn on him when he attacks you? Doesn't track from a town perspective, I don't see how you can believe tchill is scum based on what you've said.

VOTE: Formerfish

If scum chill can convince me he is town and that he will sheep me why wouldn't scum keep me alive?

If scum chill had convinced you he was town and he would sheep you (again, a crazy convoluted plan) why does he turn on you now?

Because he realized that eliminating any mislynch options is a bad idea. We are coming very close to poe being more and more important. He 1v1s me to go or hunting in the unclaimed,
is that unclear?

[Formerfish]

And my case on Dany as scum seems to make sense? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I find his explanation in his first paragraph pretty compelling--that he was pretending to agree with you to see what you did. Its your flip-flops on tchill that make no sense.

Tchill yelled pretty loudly at me to change my read on Uzi and mulch. I told him that I would see him as town if he continues to lynch scum, that seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Formerfish]

Day 2 ended before I could post at all. Day 3 started with a completely different game state.

[Formerfish]

Do you son. I've been here the whole game playing my ass off. You wanna mislynch me to get to scum chilly I'm good with it.

[Formerfish]

Why would I talk to chill about his play? Cause in my mind I'm dead already and was just waiting on the mid to start the day and give me dead access. I also like being the smartest person in the room so if I can show how his logic was flawed I am incapable of not doing so.

And yeah, I'm not 100% convinced he is scum here. I am pretty sure he is, but I guess I am slightly hedging here. If he is town this is a bad push and won't end well for him, me or town. If he is scum then that lie would have cemented my read and it would go unchanged for the rest of his alive time.

[Formerfish]

if I'm missing night action clears, let me know. Formerfish is too aggressive to be ScumFish.

Again, do you know me? Not to shit on your town read of me, but that's the second time you've mentioned my play not being something.

[Formerfish]

@FF

Do you think if Tchill was scum he would of taken the lynch off of me and onto you? The only way that makes sense is if were both town, both scum or his town and I'm scum. So could you explain why you think Tchill scum makes me town.

I feel like you could be the mislynch du jour. Tchill comes into the thread and buddies the shit out of me and then points in your direction. It's like he was so winding me up and I just took it based off the fact that he reaction tested me. The more I look back at that interaction the more I see legitimate feeling in chills posts. I don't see a reaction test, I see scum fucking up.

The only thing that gives me pause is chilly hopping off you and onto me. Why as scum would he point me in your direction and then call me scum? Only reason I can think of is to try and chain mislynches. If you are town and he gets me to railroad you, then your town flip would basically ensure I die. That's a bad situation for town to get themselves into right now. 7 alive, mislynch and kill goes through we start tomorrow with 5, if they go after me when you did that has us in Mylo the next day. Very bad. The worst. I want to make this game great again. All you have to do is put your faith and trust in me. The scum will pay.

[Formerfish]

I'm pretty dead set on the former fish lynch. Still haven't seen too much that would change my opinion. I HARD TR idanyboy and tic tac. The scum read of tic tac intrigued me.

Where did this hard town read come from, or were you lying in the pt about scum reading him?

[Formerfish]

See I wasn't the one pushing a narrative though, that was you putting names out there. I said I was going to wait and see who started pushing what when day broke. You already had your targets in mind.

And what do you want me to do when I'm told I won't live through the night? Yell, cry, bitch, bargain, compromise? Am I supposed to be surprised that the guy id waffled on ended up being scum after all? Am I supposed to be shocked that I would be the kill? I know exactly what kind of player I can be and that scares scum at times because I don't always show the leaps in my logic, or outline everything exactly. Listen man, my day to day life is managing a multi-million dollar restaurant where I make snap decisions based off the smallest amount of input because I've been doing it for over 10 years and I'm not a horrible shitbag. I play the same way here.

[Formerfish]

I actually said I didn't like the direction Dany was pushing in, and the fact that I mistook a post from Uzi for something else it brought more attention to the comment than it should have had. Nice try though guy.

[Formerfish]

Yeah so basically formerfish didn't mention pushing iDanyboy in the neighborhood thread until I brought it up. So in a perfect world what happened was backhand (formerfish's scum partner) recieved some heat at the beginning of the day then formerfish comes out pushing iDanyboy because he believes I'll help him out and that will pick up momentum very quickly. That's what I'm thinking happened.

Also not true, you asked me over the weekend who I thought the scum team could be, I said Danny and leaf and gave reasons for both. Then you asked who should our push be and before I could answer you throw out dany as who you think we should push. That's when I said we should wait and see who comes out with what. I didn't like danys push, chill says he sees both arguments, and now he is good with Dany? This is all to fucking g bizarre.

[Formerfish]

Ok fair enough you did mention him earlier, I still fail to see how is attempting to mind meld and having some of the same reads makes me scum.

[Formerfish]

The pool is raw poe. And I remember thinking you guys both looked pretty townie in your first bout on d1 or 2. Nothing really changed, I was narrowing down the pool. Once I get back from the store I'll get to rereading over shit. I need to get sloshed to get my head in the game.

Danger in that plan is getting too sloshed that playing becomes much harder than not playing.

[Formerfish]

Still stand by that luv lynch.

[Formerfish]

@Chill & Fish
Please release the neighborhood?
I wanna seeeee!

Sure.

[Formerfish]

I dont understand 1. How checking mulch confirmed anything, and 2. How Uzi had a guilty on anyone.

Uzi checked someone who had claimed a PR, and that person retuned not a VT to Uzi upon checking right? The action proves nothing unless mulch was in fact a VT and then we still haven't learned anything. I didn't scum read Uzi for making a bad play, I lynched him because I couldn't see a town reason to use his role in the way that he did.

Obviously you guys feel different from the comments I've read, so I guess we are just going to have to go ahead and disagree here. Uzi checks literally almost anyone else would have resulted in a very different day.