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[Alchemist21]

I'm gonna roll a RNG

Alchemist
Idanny

there's my scumteam

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[Alchemist21]

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

[Alchemist21]

alch / melas v

fluffy is still the correct vote to sheep

Who's melas?

[Alchemist21]

omg it's alch

so you can't bus me this time because I didn't roll scum, Zach?
Don't worry we can lynch you tomorrow ^^

Who are you? I don't remember playing with you before.

[Alchemist21]

Uzi vertical has red pm

And yet no vote? Why?

Cuz he's scum trying to blend in early on without drawing fire to himself.

VOTE: Zach

I cant imagine you seriously believe this

Oh? Do you feel like you've been caught for the wrong reasons?

[Alchemist21]

Thanks, I guess? I'm probably a bad rolemodel for anyone though.

[Alchemist21]

Robbnva gets it.

[Alchemist21]

Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

if you dont have at least a town lean on me youre probably not very good at playing with new people in general

im like level 1 towny because the game has never been "look as pro town as possible == town"

too pro-town looking often comes from scum

etc

if you think some sloppy stuff i say is scummy youre just bad

Why should anyone have a Townread on you at this point? Posts like these make it look like you just want to discredit any suspicion that comes your way.

VOTE: Fluffyrabbit

[Alchemist21]

Is it really L-1?

[Alchemist21]

Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

if you dont have at least a town lean on me youre probably not very good at playing with new people in general

im like level 1 towny because the game has never been "look as pro town as possible == town"

too pro-town looking often comes from scum

etc

if you think some sloppy stuff i say is scummy youre just bad

Why should anyone have a Townread on you at this point? Posts like these make it look like you just want to discredit any suspicion that comes your way.

VOTE: Fluffyrabbit

are you a game-loser as town

Eh, half and half. But that's irrelevant. You're acting like you're obvTown at this point but I don't see how you could claim that. So enlighten me.

[Alchemist21]

no alch lol I just failed at count

rabbit is still town though

Why are they Town?

[Alchemist21]

alchemist who are your other scum candidates as of right now

Nobody right now. I don't know most of y'all and there still isn't much to go on imo.

[Alchemist21]

im aggressive and emotional

lol

i can link you all my scumgames in which im aggressive and emotional in almost none

furthermore proactive, still trying to figure out other peoples alignments and reads, etc

I trust self-meta about as far as I can throw it.

Proactivity is a good thing but I don't think it solidifies you as obvTown here.

[Alchemist21]

alchemist who are your other scum candidates as of right now

Nobody right now. I don't know most of y'all and there still isn't much to go on imo.

were the main/only scumpings you got from me from the self-metaing and declaring myself towny?

It's you declaring yourself Towny and looking down on anyone who didn't agree. Self-meta isn't scummy per se, just not something I trust.

[Alchemist21]

see the above self meta + just this post never comes from scum!iaafr

also just generally most scum would be less antagonistic, plus he's actually tossing out reads even if some are less than ai

How much experience do you have with rabbit?

[Alchemist21]

I guess 5 games is enough to take Acid's word here. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't take acid.

UNVOTE:

[Alchemist21]

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

So what's actually been scummy about my posts to you?

[Alchemist21]

I guess 5 games is enough to take Acid's word here. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't take acid.

UNVOTE:

You can only take his word if you know he's town...

Nah. Even if Acid's scum I doubt he'd tie himself to a buddy with this defense. If scumAcid thinks rabbit is easy to read as Town I'm sure they'd be doing this for some easy Towncred early on.

[Alchemist21]

so when I pagetop thief on purpose I get sniped

but then I don't even mean to and this happens

I've probably pagetopped more when I don't want to than when I try to do it. lol

[Alchemist21]

yall can speedlynch zach if u want i dont even care that much

This is a scum claim acid.

Town absolutely cares who gets lynched

I saw that post and your response to it, but I don't think it was a serious post to begin with and don't see it as scummy tbh.

[Alchemist21]

I guess 5 games is enough to take Acid's word here. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't take acid.

UNVOTE:

You can only take his word if you know he's town...

Nah. Even if Acid's scum I doubt he'd tie himself to a buddy with this defense. If scumAcid thinks rabbit is easy to read as Town I'm sure they'd be doing this for some easy Towncred early on.

Are you a naive person in general?

Only with certain people. I don't see how this is being naive. It's highly unlikely that scum/scum interaction goes like this.

[Alchemist21]

hi alch

think I need to just wait until I get to a computer to play this game

Hi. I think the last time we played was MonkeyMan's game, right?

[Alchemist21]

not sure what you call your deathtunnel threat then

but whatever

luv outside of rabbit who do you dislike rn

The death tunnel is how I play which people hate for some reason. Trying to lynch my scum read isn't ruining the game. It's the very definition of it. I've seen enough of fluffy to know there is absolutely no way she can be town.

Death tunnels cloud your focus as a player and if it gets intense it gets to be distracting for the rest of the players.

[Alchemist21]

I agree Zach's reaction is pretty Towny. It's full of righteous anger at the bullshit against him. It's hilarious he took my posts as seriously as he did though. It was pretty obviously some RVS shit trying to get us out of RVS, but him falling for it so hard means it worked better than expected. lol

As for my progression on that wascally wabbit, when acid said how much experience they had with them I figured it's enough for the meta they were claiming. By then you should be pretty familiar with a player and have a feel for what stays constant and what changes from game to game. On all of Mafiascum I think there's only 1 person whom I've played at least 5 games with and that's Firebringer, and he's someone I'm confident I can metaread when he's in the game.

If anyone's pocketing fluffy though I'm also thinking it's Torque. Defending someone with 1 turbo game worth of meta is terrible and when it happened could have been someone just going with the forming consensus at the time.

I like Tchill. The name suits him and his posts show that he wants the Town to have cohesion, and it doesn't seem like he's using that tone to try and establish Towncred for himself.

@LUV; Fluff and off-topic posts isn't noise? C'mon man. I make those too but admit it for what it is. I do remember you were named as a problematic multiposter recently, so I guess thoughts like that are the source of the issue.

Has Danyboy even posted yet? I thought it would be interesting to play with him again after we were scum together in a previous game.

VOTE: Torque

[Alchemist21]

wtf happened in w_ms iso

like there's everything up to 396

and then there's everything after 396

and they look completely different

What difference are you seeing? It looks like he started fleshing out his thoughts a bit more but the kinds of posts found in the first half are also found in the second half.

[Alchemist21]

I must now admit that there is a small percentile chance of acidphoenix and iamafluffyrabbit powerscumming the game, but only a probability.

The more fluffy keeps posting the more I think they're Town.

[Alchemist21]

Slight Townread on Danyboy. He might not be posting that often, but a lot of what he has posted looks like Town trying to figure out the game and give his thoughts. Like he seems to be pretty open and not trying to hide himself and stay under the radar.

[Alchemist21]

hi whymafia

can u give me a selfmeta for when youre town?

Why are you asking for selfmeta?

[Alchemist21]

I like 3 of the names on that LUV wagon so I'll add my vote there.

VOTE: LUV

[Alchemist21]

Alright acid I'm gonna say it. Even I don't think I've done anything to warrant being such a hard Townread for anyone, even if it's based on tone. TBH it's typical that people who've never played with me before get early scumvibes from me based on my tone. But that on its own isn't as unsettling as your asking everyone about me and insisting that they have to Townread me. It's starting to reek of TMI. So what gives with all of it?

[Alchemist21]

pls no alch lyncherino

or do it and then I can say I told you so

The second line seems pretty enticing

Kinda what's making me paranoid about acid. But if he's buddying me it's working because I still don't want to lynch him.

I'm saying that when you unironically defend deathtunnel as a good strategy you're contributing to towns sucking robb

(unless you're scum in which case booo doing your town faking through toxicity)

I don't ever plan to death tunnel. I find scum and try to lynch them. If one of my other reads get wagoned I'll definitely switch to those but when nobody makes a compelling argument to show why I'm wrong (which nobody usually does and hasn't this game either) and hasn't really made a good argument for somebody else (which nobody has really) I get stuck pushing my scum reads.

You do know the point of the game is to find AND lynch scum right? So why do people have an issue with me doing that is beyond me.

Hi would you be interested in exterminating some alchemists

Are you an Ishvalan? Cuz right now you're sounding like an Ishvalan.

[Alchemist21]

Who said I wasn't? Only reason I left you to vote Uzi was because my vanity wagon wasn't doing any good and tbh the strength of the read's not strong enough for me to want to push the wagon. I'm thinking of getting into a 1v1 with you just because it might finally make the game entertaining for me, but I'd rather not shit up the thread with forced points - this game is annoying enough as it is.

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I don't get why Torque keeps switching back to WhyMafia when he seems to want me lynched more. I'd get it if he was doing what I'm doing with my LUV vote and just supporting his Townreads but the last time seemed more like a placeholder and at a time when a vote on WM was as good as a vote on me. I'm pretty sure Torque flips red. Anyone else up for lynching him?

[Alchemist21]

I don't like how he dropped a vanity vote before going v/la right before deadline but i've got bigger fish to fry.

so who else you like for scum?

I'm kinda thinking Carca but the main reason I think she's scummy is that she's seemed overly friendly in some of her posts, which might just be who she is as a person.

I don't get why Torque keeps switching back to WhyMafia when he seems to want me lynched more. I'd get it if he was doing what I'm doing with my LUV vote and just supporting his Townreads but the last time seemed more like a placeholder and at a time when a vote on WM was as good as a vote on me. I'm pretty sure Torque flips red. Anyone else up for lynching him?

Yeah let's lynch the guy who's VLA til our deadline while he's VLA. You sound like you should be on the Syndesis wagon. Great minds think alike and what not.


Through detective work I've found out that he may have switched because no one else besides him was on your wagon. Not highly unreasonable. A player or two has taken that approach with their scumreads.

But when he switched before going on V/LA nobody was on WhyMafia's wagon either so it doesn't make sense for him to switch like that.

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist how do you feel about LUV's wagon. You say you liked the people on it if I remember correctly. What about now?

By the last votecount I'm comfortable with all the names on the LUV wagon. Acid's the only one who kinda worries me but that might just me being overly paranoid of his slot.

[Alchemist21]

i never said uzi is gonna flip scum

Like this post dodges the question, and takes away responsibility for a mis-lynch. It makes me feel like he already knows Uzi's alignment

"dodge the question"
does it not answer your question of why "alchemist is bussing LUV" because he isnt

I pretty much preflipped alchemist red so LUV green likely

@Zach you aren't wrong but I'm feeling pretty hateful quite frankly, please be patient
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Anyone up for flashwagoning Torque?

At this point probably not enough time and why derail a Zach wagon but if we have a vig he has a plethora of options

The vig only has one, really

OK I'm not staying on LUV after this.

VOTE: Torque

How does Town ever say the bolded and proceed to vote LUV?

[Alchemist21]

Selfvoting is awful but I like it better than the ate and replace combo sorry lol





alchemist I wonder how I will read you if I go back and read that game I played with you lol


You scummy fuck



Also I was the only person ever on Wm and torque acknowledged that was the case recently


It's a bad reason to sr him

You mean that MU game? lol I can't remember if you were scum or not in that game, but iirc you were the one who liked it least that I decided to break up the players into sections and only focus on reading 4 of the players D1.

[Alchemist21]

Also I was the only person ever on Wm and torque acknowledged that was the case recently


It's a bad reason to sr him

But his switch still doesn't make sense. Why go for the tiny wagon when he wanted me dead so bad?

[Alchemist21]

I'm surprised nobody joined me on Torque. We do need a flip today though.

I'd go back on LUV if I absolutely have to but I prefer a synd flip.

VOTE: Syndesis

[Alchemist21]

shit did I forget to use my night action again
this is why I don't like being anything other than VT

why Zach wagon

I'm pretty sure you're Town at this point.

Is there someone you'd rather lynch than Zach? I still don't think Zach is really scum; he seem like really frustrated Town imo.

[Alchemist21]

Oh shit it's my scumday.

[Alchemist21]

Novice 1-shot Dayvig here

I'm gonna have a mini-lynch of sorts here
Put an underline "vote:whoever" in red, or smth close to that if you want that "whoever" to be shot
like

vote:Mulch

I'll count votes after 3 days and fire. I also won't shoot if I heavily disagree with the vote's outcome.

If this claim is true and you're Town then you shouldn't leave it to a vote imo, since that opens the door for scum manipulation. If you're holding veto authority on it anyway you may as well go with your own decision.

[Alchemist21]

I'm lazy.

Like whatever happens the flip helps with today's actual lynch. probably

I also probably shoot you if going with my own decision, are you sure you want that

If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

Take that as you will. I'd still prefer a solo vig shot on me to a voted shot.

[Alchemist21]

Torque received a bit of heat for his hop on my wagon yesterday and wasn't on the Omega lynch. No reason to out himself like that here, especially if Zach is somehow town.

Agree with this. I don't see scum doing what Torque did when they're already down 1.

[Alchemist21]

Vc

[Alchemist21]

i don't see the point of alting if someone can just ask an admin for your identity










i dont see the point of asking for an alts identity though

I didn't think admins can out main accounts.

You're not supposed to be able to get that info by asking, and admins/mods aren't supposed to just give it out (unless you get banned ofc). When Vi was a mod they got in pretty big trouble because they used their mod powers to reveal an alt's main during a game.

[Alchemist21]

Sucks that the game had to end like this. Thanks for modding, Mulch.