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[Elyse]

I'm back bitches

So one of the above is opportunistic, and should be the wagon.
I'll give the other three a pass.

Which of you is scum?

VOTE: UnaBombaH

[Elyse]

I'm actually L2. And I also have more power to lynch you here today.
So, as you like.

VOTE: cd

Easy game easy money.

I like this vote

[Elyse]

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

This is scum looking for a reason to hammer early.
Proved to not read the game as believed it was L1.

Vedith \o/

Actually, that was me reaction testing and this reaction is pretty shit.

Calling bullshit on this

[Elyse]

UNVOTE:

You're a real dick.

Why did you unvote? Do you believe Vedith's claim?

[Elyse]

?

You were either:

A) Answering the first two questions of 73 in post 74 which you have no reason to do since they weren't directed at you. If this is the case, that seems like a very defensive play.

or

B) Answering the "why isn't CD scum?" question sarcastically which I think is a lot more likely considering I said I was reaction testing which is something you "quoted" in post 74. If this is the case, that's why I asked you why you thought I was "full of shit" in post 81.

So, which one is it?

Also, I don't think you're in the position to call anyone full of shit considering you posted shit like: 38 and 59.

Why did it take you until now to call out post 38 and 59 as full of shit

[Elyse]

I just don't think it adds up that you're scumreading me for something that other people did. The first page and top of 2nd page was all reaction tests from my eyes. You reacted poorly to being voted, and you reacted poorly to what I said.

You keep saying he reacted poorly but aren't explaining HOW he reacted poorly

[Elyse]

For the other people on this table: if I do end up getting lynched ultimately, do not trust Vedith going forward. I'm sure there will only be one kill the next night and he'll pretend he got role-blocked or some stupid shit. The confidence he currently has makes absolutely no sense if he's town. He's so dead-set on Chilly and I being scum for next-to-no-reason.

This post looks townie

[Elyse]

Chilly has two posts and you're incredibly confident on him being scum.

Chilly is my best friend IRL. I can read him after 1 letter.

Again with this meta shit, blablabla.

But this I don't get. Why not give Vedith's read some credit? It's almost like you're upset he's scumreading chilly

[Elyse]

Also, the main reason Chilly is scum, is like I said - He tried to discredit my ability on finding scum on his first post when every game with him apart from 1, I've had the best day 1 reads.
So for him to say I'm useless as town is a scum claim.

Easy game easy money.

Are you willing to lynch chilly today

[Elyse]

Okay, so what do we do now?

You can start contributing any time now dear!

[Elyse]

VOTE: cd

for now

I also like votes on Creature and UnaBomba.

I like Vedith for town at the moment

[Elyse]

Elyse
What do you think makes a person a good third party?
What do you look for?

Idk how this is relevant but probably someone who isn't putting themselves out there too much, not too townie and not too scummy, doesn't have many strong reads. It's hard to pick em out

[Elyse]

I agree that the case on ya isn't the strongest, but sheeping a likely town isn't actually that horrible of a play.
(Single townie choosing even at random is statistically better than town collective will and Ved is certainly better than random)
In the case that he is fakeclaiming (and I'm not ruling it out) he traded locking himself into the claim to lynch ya.(which tbh would be worse play than I would expect from scum-him) Still makes sense to let him do that if he's scum, since he not gonna live to LYLO having claimed that.

This paragraph gives me scumvibes with all the parentheses idk I feel like you're being too cautious

[Elyse]

Okay, so what do we do now?

You can start contributing any time now dear!

Would you join BBT?

Not at the moment. Can't really get a read on BBT

[Elyse]

Veidth, stop claiming night actions.

People, stop asking him for night actions. Or suggesting them. Or asking for hints about them.
shame on you tictac.

Makes sense. Question whithdrawn.
Just, now I gotta do stuff..
:/

pedit: ehh ok.
VOTE: Dunks

ppedit: or maybe I don't have to? I'll revisit tomorrow.

I don't like this vote. You think Dunks purposely put cd to L-1 hoping for a quicklynch? I don't like Creature's vote either but at least his was original.

[Elyse]

Also, the main reason Chilly is scum, is like I said - He tried to discredit my ability on finding scum on his first post when every game with him apart from 1, I've had the best day 1 reads.
So for him to say I'm useless as town is a scum claim.

Easy game easy money.

Are you willing to lynch chilly today

Yes! Yes I Am!

Hmmm

So he's your rl friend and you're willing to lynch him D1? Sounds promising. Put your money where your mouth is

[Elyse]

cd has requested replacement

Scum replace out.
I have taken enough replacement slots to know this isn't town.

Surprised more people haven't commented on cd's replace out. I think it's more likely to come from scum too

[Elyse]

actually i change my mind. mulch can be town. i think vedith is town too tho

Dunk is town.

I don't see scum reversing this read so quickly when the wagon is at L-1. And if cd was his scumbuddy then I don't see him putting in the effort of making a case on him only to switch the read

[Elyse]

Probably not lynching Srceenplay either.

Why? I noticed he's very defensive but I haven't seen anything alignment indicative yet

[Elyse]

Obviously? Lynching a claimed vig on page 5 or whatever it was seems like bad play, no?

I don't believe the vig claim so that was my question

[Elyse]

Creature, why were you so hesitant to vote Elyse (even asking her if she would wagon me) when you thought she placed someone at L-1 without stating it but as soon as someone points out it was actually Dunkers that did that you immediately voted him? What was the difference between the two?

I like this

[Elyse]

What was the town read based on because you seemed pretty unhappy with the unannounced L-1?

Yeah, the unannounced L-1 kind of killed my Elyse townread.

I would townread Elyse because of her current posting at the time.

So you had a townread on me prior to the unannounced L-1 is what you're saying. I wasn't the one who did it. And I haven't posted since then. So why are you voting me? You said you had a townread.

Creature is a good pick for scum.

[Elyse]

You would think if Mulch was scum his buddies would at least attempt some sort of counterwagon.

The fact he has been the main, and seemingly stand alone wagon of the Day, doesn't sit right with me.

Eh I mean I don't think he's been in true danger of being lynched. I wouldn't say that's a reason he's town

[Elyse]

There's a lot of hyperbole thrown around in a mafia game, but this is not one: I literally do not see how that thought occurred to ya if ya town.
Now it's certainly possible that we are just super different on neurological level, but I'm gonna invoke occams razor here and say ya just scum.

I like this analysis. The "ya" stuff is really annoying though

[Elyse]

I retract my DunkerDoodle townread.

Why?

[Elyse]

Also, elysee is like super scum but at this point I can't unvote Screen as a matter of principle until he answers my question

Why am I scum? And what will Screen's answer do for you? It seems asinine to me.

[Elyse]

Elyse is probably scum with TMI, but I need Screenplay to answer my question before I unvote

Who is tmi

[Elyse]

I am down to lynch mulch, creature, and tchill

[Elyse]

And what will Screen's answer do for you?

Satisfy my pride

So you've been clogging the thread asking for an answer to your stupid question for your pride? Nice.

Elyse is probably scum with TMI, but I need Screenplay to answer my question before I unvote

Who is tmi

Is this real life?

Is there a player in this game called TMI? I checked the playerlist and unless I'm blind I don't see anyone with that name

[Elyse]

How am I scum with too much information? That doesn't make sense

[Elyse]

How am I scum with too much information? That doesn't make sense

This is super lock scum lol

What information do I have? Like I don't understand what the hell you're talking about

[Elyse]

How long have you been playing mafia?

You already acknowledged my joindate.

Look.

I know what the phrase TMI means but I've never seen it used in the context you did. I thought you were saying I was scum with someone named TMI and had no idea who that was.

In your spoilered response to tictac, you say the "information" I have is that my townread on Dunk is too strong - that I must have some inside knowledge. That's bullshit. Just because I am confident does not mean I am scum.

Dunk is town.

I don't see scum reversing this read so quickly when the wagon is at L-1. And if cd was his scumbuddy then I don't see him putting in the effort of making a case on him only to switch the read

Does his reversal and revote of Mulch change this read at all?

I'm surprised you glossed over that in your catch up.

PEdit - Why can't it be TvS?

No it doesn't. It makes him more town. I don't see the scum motivation behind doing what he did in the slightest. Seems to me like he has genuine reads.

[Elyse]

VOTE: Tchill

[Elyse]

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

[Elyse]

Why would you say that Creature

[Elyse]

That said: @Elyse this really the first time that your style brings charges of informed POW? Cause I'm pretty sure I'd be agreeing with Mulch here if I hadn't seen ya play before.

Yeah

[Elyse]

I would lynch pisskop.

I'm surprised he hasn't engaged me yet. I feel like he would as town

[Elyse]

VOTE: pisskop

that string of posts is terrible

[Elyse]

so i don't particularly know how to defend myself
i can however say BBT's push on me was terrible even if it does come from town

Why are you townreading BBT?

Still down to lynch Mulch, tchill, and pisskop

[Elyse]

Una is a fine lynch I guess. Nothing about the slot has given me townvibes.

Also, dunker, I never flipped my read on cd. I was always scumreading him. He had one townie post, and I called it out as such. It doesn't mean I changed my read. Scum can look town at times and I'm not the kind of player who doesn't reevaluate my scumreads

[Elyse]

What's with people adding an extra e to the end of my name?

Also lol @ people not voting Mulch cause there was no counterwagon and that being the reason counterwagons started

[Elyse]

What are my inconsistencies in my reads? I explained my read on cd and you accepted it.

pisskop is scum, folks. I've played many games with him and this is not his townself. Just look at how awful his vote on me is.

@tchill
What are Mulch's reasons to vote me? You say he gives good ones but I've yet to find any reason at all

[Elyse]

I never saw that spoilered post.

I can respond to that later.

But idk how that makes me scum??? Do you think I was trying to fool people into not seeing Mulch's posts or something

[Elyse]

I've been trying to skim along but clearly haven't done a good job at it considering I missed the spoilered post about me. (I'm still going to address that - probably tonight when I have a block of time) This week and next week are going to be insane for me cause I'm the rush chair of my sorority and it's rush week fml.

I do want to say that I've played tons of games with pisskop, and I've been on a hiatus. The fact that he signed up directly after me in the signup queue and then barely even acknowledged me once the game started is what's tipping me off. He's being really awkward and I haven't experienced that with town pisskop. He also usually has some really good observations, and none of his posts have been that original or analytical.

[Elyse]

@mod

Requesting replacement

I'm so sorry I've never replaced out of a game before but I honestly don't have time. I didn't think I'd be this busy. So sorry everyone