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[acidphoenix]

wait no

i've actually forgotten twice now

i moved dany to nullscum after he actually stayed in the thread for a bit and posted the first time

[acidphoenix]

(nullscum = w uzi and whymaf)

[acidphoenix]

well zach

is towny enough i don't want to lynch him today

if someone made a case that wasn't uzi and the case was rly good im open to it

or if he starts being a scumfuck

[acidphoenix]

never lynch today is me, alch, carca, you, melas imo

anyone else is fair game if a great case pops off / they decline significantly

[acidphoenix]

ew gross cliffs

alch just read my iso and ctrl f alch

carca off outstanding tone / humor

melas rly liked opener for him + his reaction to my initial locktowning + at the time of posting i felt like supporting the torque sr was good look

pedit:

carca i actually have looked at (and once removed) from locktown once or twice, then eventually read his ISO
and realized that that was a thing i didn't actually want to do

alch i probably did

pls say i did i'm tired of talking about alch

[acidphoenix]

oh isos are 200ppp not full load

so i actually hit a 2 page iso

[acidphoenix]

u know amrock you should probably finish the sentence at the bottom of the page

[acidphoenix]

VOTE: chill

lgi

[acidphoenix]

i can see alch but well
lmfao

why_maf ????? how

[acidphoenix]

*as people you think i'm powerwolfing for fsfr

[acidphoenix]

but seriously

lg chill

[acidphoenix]

no i meant

how you think i'm powerwolfing for him is ???????? in a post-730 world

[acidphoenix]

i still think the first half of his iso looks decent for mislynchbaiterino but then when the second half exists looks rly weird and bad

and the second half looks sorta okay

but them both existing is rly weird

just would rather get chill / maybe dany

pedit VILLAGERS
VS
WEREWOLVES

[acidphoenix]

in a vacuum everything up to whatever number looks like the epitome of a shitty mislynch bait player imo

[acidphoenix]

I mean

that's what I saw from the first half

not when the second half exists

[acidphoenix]

nty

[acidphoenix]

i don't think she's scum obv

don't think she personally just says haven't read don't plan to soon as scum + I liked the thing on your opener even if it is super silly feat meta + tone

[acidphoenix]

with your given list how did you flip from Zach to syndesis

and not dany or alch

[acidphoenix]

oh wait that's describing your wagon not scumminess

my question stands anyway

[acidphoenix]

Zach speaking of the pt do you wanna fite torque for it

[acidphoenix]

not reading won't get you pushed generally but outright refusal to read often will

and she sorta did iirc, defending the posts being different based on the whats shaking

and then basically stopped talking about it after people said uzi does this every game

[acidphoenix]

in that case

a on the null-town scale where do you have: alch, chill
b why synde over dsny

[acidphoenix]

and alch?

also giving syndes posting(read lack thereof) and reading(read the other paranthetical since) chances are she just didn't think about it to go back to

so

synde why are you still voting uzi

[acidphoenix]

wait actually

how the fuck do you not have an opinion on alch at this point

[acidphoenix]

wait actually

how the fuck do you not have an opinion on alch at this point

uzi

[acidphoenix]

still on uzi because no one else really appeals right now

also "don't look at me" entrances are scummy because like. the scum instinct is to avoid drawing attention

unless you are a showboat but

the average wolf is not

okayyy but

the he does it every game thing

[acidphoenix]

maybe it's assisted by the fact that it kills people's motivation for someone who posts a lot to be pessimistic in every post

and having only 4 reads when you're 3rd highest poster

[acidphoenix]

a town that you say is gonna lose repeatedly is probably more likely to lose than one that you well
don't

no, but the fact that there's 40 fucking pages means you should have more than 4 people who aren't nulls
and the fact that you're posting a lot means you can't excuse it with apathy/low time

pedit for 40 fucking pages 1/3 is absolutely a terrible fraction
also the reads you do have aren't even supported; as far as I can tell dany and syndesis and maybe zach(probably less so zach) are pure omgus reads

[acidphoenix]

no I'm not pissed you don't have a read on alch; I just think it's terrible and you should feel bad if you're town / fucking fake one if you're scum

I'm pissed you are insulting the entire town for a lynch that hasn't even happened and has serious potential to not

and a future loss that hasn't even happened yet and hopefully won't

when you are very close to the least helpful slot for acumhunting in the game

[acidphoenix]

you are voting them close to purely on their vote on you being bad as far as I can tell

also you literally haven't analyzed outside your wagon since you started inside it

[acidphoenix]

outside your wagon(going by alch/synde/Zach/chill/dany here) is 7 people

not 1

also there have definitely been reasons presented on wm

also even if there weren't you could still analyze him

also nonetheless it's still a lot less effective when you're analyzing your *own* wagon

[acidphoenix]

probably quite a few

you can probably iso Zach and find a bunch; probably some are nai but definitely some are ai

or look at my thoughts on the dichotomy

or iso rabbit and he has thoughts I believe

at the very least they exist

[acidphoenix]

because I don't remember all of them and feel like at this point the obligation is on you to pick up the slack and look for them

I gave you relevant isos that I remembered having them for easy ctrl+f

and stated what *I* said about him already because that I remembered off the top of my head

but I didn't give you other isos or the exact thoughts of Zach and rabbit bc I don't remember those off the top of my head

and what I did say was enough to establish how patently absurd the shit that's spewing out of your mouth is

[acidphoenix]

a I'm not even fucking voting him I want to Lynch chill

b I outright said the reason *i* had for not liking whymaf (the dichotomy) so ???

[acidphoenix]

I'm somewhat concerned with you but definitely less so

I went off on you out of being pissed at you being a shit not because of scumreading though

[acidphoenix]

I want to lynch Zach so hard .....
Do you know what'd be funny? If the scum team was Zach/Acid/Fluffy

LOL

[acidphoenix]

whymaf I like how you came into signups and the game complaining about spamming

and yet for a while iirc you were third top poster

[acidphoenix]

signs point to nope

[acidphoenix]

Scum is in rabbit, Zach, Phoenix and alchemist.
Robbvna and uzi are strong town.

how do you actually have this as your scumlist

[acidphoenix]

before i respond let's hear it for pagetops

[acidphoenix]

you've made some somewhat reasonable statements

but also popped in to randomly hard defend

haven't directly responded to literally anyone addressing you

all of your quotes except one are iaafr quotes and that one is a quote of an iaafr quote

[acidphoenix]

how exactly are you scumreading somebody for not agreeing with you when you have a near-nil thread presence

[acidphoenix]

how is "please don't push me until later" the same as "this isn't reasonable"

[acidphoenix]

oh okay i assumed you meant the one actually addressed to you in response at the time

[acidphoenix]

why is everything you've quoted (excepting carca in rvs) rabbit

[acidphoenix]

whys 753 exist at all

why suddenly respond to one of my posts in the middle of me asking you questions and mentioning that as something bad about your iso

[acidphoenix]

what about me and alch

what happened to your synde read

is your only reason for locktown uzi disliking his wagon

[acidphoenix]

what'd you do to find them

is that what you were doing for 11 minutes

[acidphoenix]

because I posted the response thing at xx:43

and you next posted at xx:54

[acidphoenix]

you actually haven't explained alch at all

earlier you just said gut scum feels

also

[acidphoenix]

godammit this forums : | is not what I wanted

[acidphoenix]

synde question still stands

[acidphoenix]

but

I was wrong

and it wasn't l-1

[acidphoenix]

whats your current read on synd then

[acidphoenix]

I don't see at all how posting vs looking at votes to find out lynch status is alignment indicative, esp when somebody has just posted about it

[acidphoenix]

how are you not pushing synd because you have bigger fish to fry if you don't even have synd in the fish to fry pile

[acidphoenix]

melas off like of his tone / opener / recently push on robb, esp compared to meta

carca because of outstanding tone + jokey humor that from experience/gut is >95% town

alch I believe I already have; I can make the case again w iso but I'd rather not

[acidphoenix]

alright

I'll look back at your answers in the morning

right now I don't see any reason to revoke the scumread

maybe that'll change when I stop feeding my sleep deprivation

gn

[acidphoenix]

when iaafr forgets he can color himself in as locktown

[acidphoenix]

your list is missing chill and another person

[acidphoenix]

well in the voting lists

[acidphoenix]

oh you just dropped them bc single vote and voter name already in left list

(grr)

[acidphoenix]

nah

[acidphoenix]

nty

[acidphoenix]

you can

you hope you don't though

[acidphoenix]

given your posts i am absolutely willing to locktown you on tone etc

and even just from literally your first two posts don't see why the hell i would be expected to sr you on tone

looking at my iso with one exception(responding to zach saying you were consistently scummy) i think every time i've actually done anything about trying to get others to townread you was either

a. because someone asked me a question
b. because someone tried to move the lynch to you

i ask random people about you because you're a name that is/was useful for forcing people at this point to give thoughts that actually matter and hopefully slip somewhere

[acidphoenix]

dammit i still wanna do mu's face at carca

but i can't copy image address from mu RIP



also that image is hilarious lol

[acidphoenix]

Guys plz

[acidphoenix]

Who here thinks Robbnva and rabbit are BOTH town?

rabbit definitely

dunno on robb he could be either

[acidphoenix]

Guys plz

[acidphoenix]

im not gonna do either

just

keep trying

in futility

and then start to post content once one of you leaves the thread for a bit

[acidphoenix]

if I respected your top scumread more than I respected a d12 roll then I'd probably take that as fair

but a people hate deathtunnel because it makes the game toxic (see this shit) and also leads to absurd confbias(see this shit if you're town)

and b you've made a scumread on the second to top poster in a 49 page game with a case that is basically built on one post made early in an iso without using literally any context

without listening to any reason when people argue against your case at all

pedit don't fucking force a toxic deathtunnel game nobody except you wants to play that

[acidphoenix]

no

fuck that

[acidphoenix]

hey acid dont sell me that pt unless alchemist gets lynched

fine then ;;

i'll look back at awesome for you though

also robb you realize that cd subbed in for fluffy right

[acidphoenix]

oh i missed his opening post unvote

[acidphoenix]

TBH acid doesn't look good either. He basically just omgus votes whymafia.

the only vote on whymafia where he's voting me is based on checking his iso and noticing something very noticeable

that's not what an omgus looks like tbh

voting somebody because their read on you sucks and they should feel bad(perception accurate or otherwise) is an omgus

like this: VOTE: robbnva

[acidphoenix]

except that I don't actually want to vote you I think

UNVOTE:
VOTE: tchill13

[acidphoenix]

voting somebody for scumreading you is much closer to an omgus than voting somebody for valid reason when they happen to be voting you

a 'true' omgus would be voting somebody explicitly for voting you

especially if the reason is "this player is too good to actually scumread me"

but nonetheless

[acidphoenix]

it's me/rabbit(cd)/you thanks for the beautiful not w/w deathtunnel

[acidphoenix]

.....no? I said that that that would be the reason for scumreading in basically the perfect omgus

and a. that's not omgus
b. omgus is a terrible scumtell regardless

[acidphoenix]

b. omgus is a terrible scumtell regardless

So I caught you for the wrong reasons? Aww I'm sowwy

lolno

[acidphoenix]

HEY

ZACH

you still want the pt

torque is being mean

[acidphoenix]

or anyone else :>

[acidphoenix]

ive referred to awesome as melas; try again

(also awesome wasn't posting and not doing much so much as yknow
not posting)

correct i don't want to scumread syn because i townread her (also given her specifically i'm unwilling to scumread for shitposts andor low content posts)

[acidphoenix]

i have a neighborizer shot and i've been spamming the pt with reads and such

[acidphoenix]

no i townread 2 and ignore the 3rd

melas i need to relook at for torque but really liked opening based on tone/experience w him
also again: there's a difference between posting and not doing things
and just not having a thread presence

syndesis on tone
the meta thing is just "this doesn't hurt my read because stanari is a notorious shitposter"

i have a neighborizer shot and i've been spamming the pt with reads and such

Scum neighborizer. Awesome

nah

[acidphoenix]

*scumread the 3rd

(also still technically townread 1, scumread 1, townread the third except they aren't actually doing that)

[acidphoenix]

Robb what is your read on carca

also i am absolutely willing to read people on pure tone and here that includes those two

speaking of awesome and torque being here bleh I need to do that

[acidphoenix]

tbf not all of it is notes

some of it is shitposting

[acidphoenix]

a. why not
b. what are your thoughts on her synde read

[acidphoenix]

oh also

chill if you're going to lynch me at least spell phoenix right

[acidphoenix]

cause like, what scum puts this much effort into a secret pt like that

mulch

did amrock do that I wanna see

[acidphoenix]

oh also

chill if you're going to lynch me at least spell phoenix right

Ha
phoenix right
good one

don't you dare start

[acidphoenix]

Robb it's town bc you seem green

wm awwww I was hoping for entertaining reading

[acidphoenix]

torque how much of awesome do you think is not being into the game vs being busy

Robb I kinda wanna make a scumlist based solely on everyone's first five posts just to annoy you

[acidphoenix]

fair enough

[acidphoenix]

torque reading melas:
still like opening tone; doesn't seem as insanely good as before
like reentry by attacking Robb; think scum are conscious of threadstate read towards him more than that
prodge is ew

killed from locktown, still townread

also Robb you aren't exactly helping to prevent that from being the case

[acidphoenix]

I don't think scum try to avoid reading Robb

just don't think scum is as likely to push robb at the gamestate that vote was in

[acidphoenix]

I'm saying that when you unironically defend deathtunnel as a good strategy you're contributing to towns sucking robb

(unless you're scum in which case booo doing your town faking through toxicity)

[acidphoenix]

because when it reaches the point where people are describing it as a deathtunnel you're not actually finding scum to lymch

you're picking a guy you thought was scum earlier, deciding he's 100% scum because I said so, and making the game toxic for the sake of your desire when it's different from the rest of the thread and disagreement has already been indicated

also you are aware that the word tunnel means when you force a scumread due to confbias yes(whether they're scum or not)

[acidphoenix]

pls no alch lyncherino

or do it and then I can say I told you so

[acidphoenix]

:facepalmseola:

[acidphoenix]

Sorry guys school and stuff
Robb is probtown, and I need to do a reread on fluffbuns spot.

psh play during class like i do

im a terrible student but hey i can zero effort every class anyway

[acidphoenix]

Sorry guys school and stuff
Robb is probtown, and I need to do a reread on fluffbuns spot.

psh play during class like i do

Spoiler: a

im a terrible student but hey i can zero effort every class anyway

why do you need a name for spoilers to get good spoilers

[acidphoenix]

[acidphoenix]

its nai to recognize when an endeavor is unproductive and cease it

basically for cd to push a carca Lynch he'd have to abandon scumhunting, abandon lynches on people he thinks might be scum, probably fail anyway, and he's not insane so he knows he might be wrong

[acidphoenix]

if you can recognize it's unproductive beforehand it's still nice

accurate or otherwise

and given I'm top posting and have shown no indication of carca from locktown...

[acidphoenix]

indeed

but cd already posted stats showing what, 3 on the opposition?

also apparently I'm successful at stopping the alch Lynch

I actually have no clue how

pedit: yes but it's more likely to be your fault than cds probably

[acidphoenix]

icu cd

[acidphoenix]

alignment indicative = relevant to subjects alignment

the n stands for not

[acidphoenix]

If we're going to use NAI as a buzzword this game and give scum free agency, guess what anyone's future past and present reason for scumreading me is about to become?

there aren't any ai posts itg ofc

scum forgot they were scum

[acidphoenix]

hey you spelled it right this time!

bad capitalization though :<

[acidphoenix]

also what exactly do you see in robb

but not the entire rest of iso

also why were you doing a vote to test reactions on page 22; and how is 1096 a vote to test reactions

[acidphoenix]

wait it's 25 ppp

page 44

[acidphoenix]

He's obv scum.

no. fluffy and acid are obv scum

[acidphoenix]

not if it's to whatever the fuck your standards are

but to a reasonable person's standards sure! just like everyone should all/most of the time

[acidphoenix]

difference is either
a.
regardless of read quality

you have absurd conviction on two players, one who i know to be town(ME) and one who replaced someone i know well enough to almost know he's town
also you are unironically defending deathtunnels
and saying that meta is 100% useless
and saying that because you have someone you think is scum you are actively ceasing to scumhunt for the day in favor of
and saying that posts that don't give you a clear read one way or the other are nai

i don't have absurd conviction on any scumreads(although i do on townreads)
i'm continuing to modify them as people actually do things
i'm not actively refusing to actually work with the rest of the thread when they want to lynch outside of the top srs of mine

b.
you're scum and stop making it so you have to be a toxic shit to get towncred

and just stop being a toxic shit period

pedit a if your goal is to lynch people based on being annoyed with them something is even MORE wrong
b regardless of your read quality i doubt people will take your side when you are the one who is

actively saying deathtunnel, a thing which people actively consider not only terrible play but also game-ruining, is something you intentionally do and good play

c i don't expect my reads to be perfect because i'm not a fucking naive idiot who thinks his reads are objectively better than everybody else's (iaafr / alch reads excepted tbh)

[acidphoenix]

also 'find scummy person' is about the only part of your process that works

you skipped steps like
'reevaluate people on new posts'
'continue scumhunting after you find scummy person'
'cooperate with thread'
'not be a toxic shit'

[acidphoenix]

first one not really

second one fair enoughish? but that was recent
and then you actively have posted refusal to say more people are scummy because you picked some semblance of a list which still makes the prolem anyway

also
a. making a one post hard scumread is probably generally a pretty good indicator your reasons are shit
b. a. where is the scum motivation? town doesn't have a good reason to do this
b. the reason is that ppl get emotional and antagonistic; this came literally right after iaafr said i hate u people
c. how have you honestly played mafia for a significant amount of time and thought town weren't emotional unreasonable shits at various points

[acidphoenix]

b. a. meant to have but how does scum

[acidphoenix]

part 2

you did but you tunneled them based on that one post and i doubt you actually reevaluated just confbiased/predetermined

ok but im not sure how this relates to the words i said

you wouldn't think so, and yet......

[acidphoenix]

i guess that's facepalm part 3 actually

[acidphoenix]

"bad play" (which it isn't even that for most of the game, although some you can certainly argue) isn't toxic

deathtunnels and refusing to cooperate with thread are toxic

this argument is probably toxic on both sides but at this point i don't fucking care

also see 1521

also every post i have facepalmed has been you making a terrible lockscum read on iaafr/cd which absolutely fucking deserved facepalming

[acidphoenix]

fuck spamposting for the sake of explicitly making the game more of a pain to catch up on tchill

also how is that read a read

fair enough probably Zach but dk where I wanna go

out of top three prob uzi but eh

[acidphoenix]

Vote Count 1.19

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Zachstralkita (4): Lil Uzi Vert, WhyMafia, Robbnva, Tchill13

[L-3]

Lil Uzi Vert (3): Syndesis, iDanyboy, Alchemist21

[L-4]

WhyMafia (2): Zachstralkita, Torque

[L-5]

Tchill13 (1): acidphoenix

[L-6]

Robbnva (1): NMKangaroos

[L-6]

Syndesis (1): cd

[L-6]

Not voting (1): Carcalilly

Countdown: (expired on 2017-09-03 07:48:55)

a I have but he has since harshly declined

b somewhere between anger and masochism

[acidphoenix]

the hopelessness is where the masochism comes in yes

[acidphoenix]

Idk I'm not really feeli syndesis anymore. It's reminding me of my slot in the large Normal that Alisae modded

Syndesis would be a good vig shorn though

the hell do you think vig is supposed to aim for

im down for not getting lynched

if i have to move out of uzi/wm/synde/zach i move in that order most-> least likely

would rather just tchill but nosupportexceptcarca:(

[acidphoenix]

im not backing out of my town read on synde or even close

just zach is slightly higher at the moment

[acidphoenix]

they aren't locktown reads so yes?
I picked the pool that at this point I actually expect to have a chance of getting lynched at this point

and none of them are to the point of me going no fuck this and insanepushing the lynch to anywhere else

[acidphoenix]

because im holding the futile hope somebody follows

fair enough anyway so VOTE: luv

[acidphoenix]

>dayvigging

>night

Zach.......

[acidphoenix]

no the awesome slot is an actual inactive

[acidphoenix]

or do neither and save both AND a town

[acidphoenix]

*both of bullet/noose

[acidphoenix]

<this game killed my motivation for mafia for the moment but w/e will play out>

catch up

rip wm

to everyone: i'm a he tyty

carca voting me for tring is (plsnoprovemewrong)

cbfa to keep up on three hours, later maybe

[acidphoenix]

for the record i wasn't lurking for the sake of avoiding posting something incriminating; i just left the thread(well, site) for a break for the sake of my emotional health

originally i was at "this is stupid but i can handle it" but went to "need to take a break to not go insane" after syndesis-scumread-for-subbing-for-mental-health-in-this-hellhole-of-a-game

also i still have the most posts lol