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VOTE: Lil uzi

Mulch is cool Because he gave you a scum role right?

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hi chilly why are people voting for you?

Not sure. They're vote should be on Lil uzi though.

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Because they voted me in rvs? Why should I be worried about who voted me at that point.

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Alright I just skimmed through and caught up. Looks like a lot of game theory discussion which is useless because nobody is gonna change their play style after more than likely being called out for it before.

As far as reads right now there's nothing that just jumps out at me. I think it's important to note fluffy didn't really attack Robbnva and try to get a lynch going on him. Other than that I didn't see anything worth mentioning. Carcalilly threw some slight shade my way but it didn't seem to catch any traction. I have no problem with Robbnva's play because usually if you look at it from his perspective it makes sense. Of course it seems people can't change perspectives and look at it from other people's point of view.

If anyone wants to ask me particular questions that would be helpful.

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do you wanna address my play directly tchill?

wanna give out any of your reads on me/acidphoenix/luv/robb/syndesis?

where do you wanna take this day tchill?

I don't believe in self meta reads either. Robbvna comes off as town because what he's pushing makes sense from my perspective and from his. You don't necessarily seem scummy atm but it's not like you're strong town from me. I don't have any strong town reads at the moment. I do lean town on robbvna. I'm interested as to why my push on luv never developed any traction. I like my vote there for now. Syndesis came off as a little odd. I'll have to do a more detailed read for specific points though.

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Discussion in the hopes of persuading other players is fine. Discussion in the hopes of making the guy look dumb and stating his play style is completely unjustifiable isn't really my cup of tea.

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Those posts were made in rvs and I'm just stating the fact that it didn't gain any traction at all that seems a little odd to me. I don't think anyone even placed a 2nd vote on him.

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also i like making people who are confidently wrong look dumb sue me

Yeah instead of doing that and mucking up the thread with point less play style discussion just stick to scum hunting that's what really mstters. Players like this divide townies they don't unite them in our common goal to lynch scum. I feel at the moment you and robbvna are both town. Seems like a waste of energy from where I stand.

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Yeah but you're wagon gained traction without the way you just defined it. So here I sit wondering why acidpheonix and syndesis voted you instead of me when we both had 2 votes.

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Well you had 3 votes at the time and I had 2. Either way I claim little to no confidence in my ability to lynch scum day 1. My play gets better as we move along. Who's your scum pool at the moment? Mines uzi, acidpheonix and syndesis for now.

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Yeah I get scum read early a lot. Actually I'm scum read a lot in general lol. So wagons formed on you and Zach with little to no reason while carcalilly threw some shade at me.

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thats hard to articulate what i expect town posts to look like at that point, but its player dependent and i have a vague impression of you being more towny town in like a game i subbed out of a year ago

this isnt something you can really defend directly against; just lynch a scum / defend a mislynch in a towny way and i'll probably decide i overreacted to a hunch

i might just metadive you later too

yall can speedlynch zach if u want i dont even care that much

I find it laughable that these posts came from the same player and fluffy lost my town read because of it as of right now.

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Fluffy is null at the moment to be clear.

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What you think about alchemist? I'm getting gut scum feels.

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And I'm telling you right now fluffy that robbvna is town.

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a lot of the stuff robb believes in this game is specifically NAI for this game imo

like he says stuff that he believes in general about the game but he's not thinking adaptively at all

its slightly scummy

i really would feel a lot better if he tunneled somebody other than me

The fact that he's tunneling you let's me know he's town.

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if alch is town tchill is very possibly scum

because tchills gut sr of alch

if tchill is scum robbvna is lock town

and robbs already very likely town but i didnt like how tchill insisted the fact that he was tunneling me locked it for him because i dont think its that simple

if tchill and alch are both scum im some kind of god maybe? but "What you think about alchemist? I'm getting gut scum feels." rarely a scum/scum move in my own experience

viliyr how sure are you i should vote tchill over alch

I mean we're not even close to lynching TChill so this list is ???

Not sure what the point is because like you said I'm nowhere near a lynch and preflip associations aren't exactly a great idea on day 1.

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Sorry guys I haven't been as active as I should. Literally voted uzi because I've played with him before and I just felt like it in rvs. His wagon had little to no justification. I'm more intrigued that he was zach's counter wagon than anything else.

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Scum is in rabbit, Zach, Phoenix and alchemist.
Robbvna and uzi are strong town.

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VOTE: acidpheonix

Let's do this. OMGUS, bad vote, little to no justification. Call it what you want. This is scum.

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Curious as to why rabbit doesn't want to lynch you at all but wants to lynch me when I've made reasonable statements and backed them up.

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Rabbits push on me and his do not lynch list make no sense. I've already stated my opinion on alchemist. The transition from zach's wagon to uzis was terrible and built on little to nothing.

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Because of what I've actually posted. I mean u skimmed through quite quickly on the catch up I'll go back and address specific questions.... I noticed you opened up the game on a rabbit vote, rabbit mentioned high post count usually means less likely scum, you currently have 240ish posts, I made a very reasonable statement as to why rabbit was now null and he said it wasn't reasonable. Then I noticed no reason as to why uzi's wagon got ran up after Zachs. I opened the door to an rvs wagon on uzi in rvs but that got no interest. All of a sudden we want to lynch him for practically nothing? It's odd. That's my catch up regarding my scum reads.

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I skimmed through.

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tchill speaking of whymafia quotes

whaddaya think of him

I'd like to know why he's townreading me. As far as his individual play nothing stands out but I have noticed he's running up his post count. Lots of fluff.

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what do you think of chill

what do you think of dany

i think its slightly scummy the way tchill emphasizes his robb townread over and over again as if its relevant to d1 gamestate

i didnt like the way he revoked his townread on me for some sloppy stuff but im probably personally biased on that one so ill file it as NAI

his most recent post felt disconnected from gameflow just to admonish a post of mine for not being in gameflow, which feels kind of hypocritical

his overall stance is me null robb locktown alch slightly scummy

and then thats it?

this particular quote pinged me too as commentary w/o conclusions: "As far as reads right now there's nothing that just jumps out at me. I think it's important to note fluffy didn't really attack Robbnva and try to get a lynch going on him. Other than that I didn't see anything worth mentioning. Carcalilly threw some slight shade my way but it didn't seem to catch any traction. I have no problem with Robbnva's play because usually if you look at it from his perspective it makes sense. Of course it seems people can't change perspectives and look at it from other people's point of view."

the only conclusion to really draw from that is that he thinks robb is town for a believable push

the rest of his queries, on like wagon stuff, kind of went absolutley nowhere

danys recent push on luv feels slightly towny but idk

I was talking about where rabbit said I revoked his town read on some sloppy stuff.

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Alright since I had to iso iamafluffyrabbit I'll say he's null. I DO NOT scum lean him right now. His questioning of Carcalilly is why. I don't agree with Carcalilly having such a high town read on me at this time either. She did play a scum game with me though that is true. Rabbits iso makes a lot of sense for the most part. I see a lot of towniness there. I'm weary of that slot because I haven't played with them at all and they seem to be driving the game at times.

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why is everything you've quoted (excepting carca in rvs) rabbit

Purely coincidence and until this point he's the only 1v1 I had.

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Also the only reason I scum read Zach at the time his because the wagon came off of him and onto uzi which I feel is strong town. Seeing how apparently the wagon left Zach for justifiable reasons I don't think I'd like to lynch him today either. I'm very curious why it became uzi in particular though.

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Apologies for making definite reads off a speedy catch up.

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whys 753 exist at all

why suddenly respond to one of my posts in the middle of me asking you questions and mentioning that as something bad about your iso

753 exist because of the preflip talk and I didn't agree with the associations. As far responding to your posts I was looking to see who I had missed because you said I had not responded to questions.

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what'd you do to find them

is that what you were doing for 11 minutes

Just searched mentions of my name. Why the time frame? That's not creepy at all.

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what about me and alch

what happened to your synde read

is your only reason for locktown uzi disliking his wagon

I explained alchs already. I didn't really explain yours yet I want to make a decent case. I've played with uzi before doesn't seem like anything different from his town play when I've played town with him. That's helps the tr though.

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Like I can go to the bathroom and stuff...

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Rabbit's questions to Whymafia and Carcalilly make sense and make me feel better about him. I also like how he states I didn't go about stating my hard TR on Robbnva. I'm not sure why he's scum reading me though.

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Seems like there's more justification to lynch alchemist if he's gonna break it down like he has been.

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Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

if you dont have at least a town lean on me youre probably not very good at playing with new people in general

im like level 1 towny because the game has never been "look as pro town as possible == town"

too pro-town looking often comes from scum

etc

if you think some sloppy stuff i say is scummy youre just bad

Why should anyone have a Townread on you at this point? Posts like these make it look like you just want to discredit any suspicion that comes your way.

VOTE: Fluffyrabbit

Is it really L-1?

I like 3 of the names on that LUV wagon so I'll add my vote there.

VOTE: LUV

Not sure why you'd vote someone if you don't know what number you're vote would be on the wagon. His vote on uzi is pretty weak too.

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As far as synd goes it just seemed like I had bigger fish to fry with more reasons after I caught up.

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but

I was wrong

and it wasn't l-1

Why didn't they check that before? They should've known you were wrong. Why post that but nor go back and check?

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whats your current read on synd then

Null

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never lynch today is me, alch, carca, you, melas imo

anyone else is fair game if a great case pops off / they decline significantly

You can explain why Alchemist21, Carcalilly and melas are never lynch when you want.

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I answered enough of your questions I'm off for the night. It was fun.

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Okay I didn't get the reactions I wanted out of voting acidphoenix.

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Who here thinks Robbnva and rabbit are BOTH town?

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Hey robbvna who's some other scum reads? I'm feeling like there maybe scum in torque, syndesis and acidpheonix. I'm OK with letting CD sort himself out for now.

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Uzi I'd like some input on a scum pool also

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I'm down to lynch syndesis, acidpheonix or alchemist.

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VOTE: acidpheonix

We're gonna go back to this after the 1v1 with robbvna.

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There's a lot of players acting odd I do agree with Robbnva on that. My first vote on Phoenix was to see who would defend and who would attack. The 2nd one was a genuine scum read on Phoenix after Robbnva's 1v1 with Phoenix.

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VOTE: zach

That "secret weapon" statement was made way too early.

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Please stop mucking up the thread with useless back and forths. I'm almost positive robbvna is town because of my experience with him which leads me to believe acidpheonix is purposely arguing knowing he won't get anywhere to make the game harder to read. I'm pretty happy with how Zach responded to my vote makes me more confident that he is scum.

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Why would hopelessly argue with someone that you think is town if you're town? What's the point? To show them they're wrong? That's not going to happen here. Yall have argued enough. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain that you've stated you thought robbvna was town. How am I supposed to look at the useless bickering and go "oh acidpheonix is town with good intentions here."

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Scum PT's probably relaxing.

You act like town might be wasting time on useless arguments.

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Sadly I can agree with that.

VOTE: syndesis

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VOTE: zach

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Oh it'll be a great vote after you flip.

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Only people I'm voting to lynch for sure at the moment are acid and Zach. Syndesis and whymafia are two players I don't want sticking around if their play continues to be the same and they're in fact town.

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By they I mean you and syndesis

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I feel like the reason his lynch isn't going through is because his scum partners may not want to bus at the end of the wagon.

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"Zach is not happening" You scared to push me hard buddy all your talk is complete air


You've had the whole day to kill me and have spent most of it (faking) doing so

lmfao
unlike you I'm actually trying to get a scum lynch through

When people posts anti town stuff there's reason to believe they're scum aka Zach.

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Zach or acid should definitely be the lynches.

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I haven't posted blatant anti town stuff. We're on page 70 day 1 and still don't have enough to lynch anyone. I'm not going to produce some magical BS at this point in the day phase. Zach is scum and the reason zach's lynch hasn't went through is because his scum buddies don't want to bus.

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"scum is too easy" lol. Someone thinks they're Sherlock. What did that comment even mean then? What was the purpose of it?

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Why isn't kangaroo an option?

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VOTE: kangaroo

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VOTE: NMKangaroos

there is also wagon on him? I like it!

VOTE: NMKangaroos

there is also wagon on him? I like it!

VOTE: NMKangaroos

What the hell? There's a counter claim and you two decide to vote someone that isn't CD or Michael? Like what the actual hell lol.

UNVOTE:

This is interesting.

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The lynch is either Michael or CD today. That's it. We can't have 2 slots hanging around and one possibly lying.

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full disclosure i was not going to do anything today apart from prodge and allocate my vote where cd did

i am not having this on my record if i get to ell one i am claiming and replacing out

We just lynched mafia and this is your reactions?

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I'd like to be very clear about this. Torque are you claiming that you can day vig?

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VOTE: rabbit

have read literally nothing except vc and do not intend to read anything for a while

bye

Hey guys

What's shaking?

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I realize that my catchup is pretty patchy but I think the thread is literally growing faster than I'm reading

At the moment I'm thinking the scum team is Michael, CD and acid. Syndesis opens with a vote on rabbit then changes it to uzi after 2 posts of his later. Rabbit defended high posts count when that came up. He said that it's less likely scum would do that. I take that as him defending acid who had the highest post count at the time and now has dropped off the face of the earth. The vig should be CD or acid. I think both are scum anyway.

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The amount of times I've thought a dead townie was scum on this game is too dang high. My apologies. Please vig acid.

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tchill...

3rd time I've done it lol. Oh well.

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I read ISOs of Synd/Michael/Awesome slot/Alchemist/Carca

Kinda fucked up but the only one I maaaaaaybe have desire of shooting is the awesome slot
Alchemist D2 posts arent even bad

so maybe I just shoot between Zach and Kangaroo and try to figure out the D1 EoD wagons

zzz or maybe I replace out cause normal games clearly aren't whats fun for me

There's no purpose for this post.

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Policy lynches only help scum and I don't want to help them here after the very successful Day 1 and the sub-par night kill.

Agreed.

VOTE: alchemist

The scum manipulation thing he pointed out comes off as fake to me.

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Down for alchemist or Zack or acidpheonix

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Doesn't matter how dumb that day vig was. Why is there good reason to believe he's not town other than the vig?

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Love how torque just disappeared lol. I'll give an in depth look to this game tonight. Meanwhile I think alchemist needs some rope.

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Didn't we get an extension due to syn strategically replacing out?

We got one because the mod deemed it nessecary for whatever reason.

If the replace out was strategically, I think she would've just been mod killed and reported.

She was about to be lynched and replaced out. That's strategic

Pretty sure that's why we got an extension.

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Torque isn't getting lynched today. That's pointless and there's no reason to justify a mislynch for bad play.

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Uzi you didn't actually do it why are even arguing this? Lol

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Why is Zach acting weird about the attention he isn't getting.

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My scum pool is... Acidpheonix, alchemist, kangaroo. With a sprinkle of idanyboy. I'm going to argue against a lynch that's not those.

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Anybody else thinking idanyboy might be scum?

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I'm not a she?

You're trying to tell me that a bunch of mafia randomly bussed their partner on d1? I'm unfamiliar with the way you do things here on mafiascum, but there's definitely information to be garnered from votes on ALL DAYS, especially on d1 when you get mafia lynched.

Well I do agree with sub on this.

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VOTE: zach

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Are you going to lynch in kangaroo/sub4hire/tchill tomorrow

Sub4hire is a scum lean for me.

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Bummer... Thanks for modding mulch.

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lol still dont understand that. im just glad my hard town reads, lil uzi and robbvna, were correct.

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Why did I get scumrread btw?

mainly because of idanys play