Mini Normal 1948: BooneyToonz V - The Boon 'N Bed Express!

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tchill likes to jump a lot of mental hoops to make cases on me so its not surprising. lets wait for carca and then we'll be right.

we're not lynching tchill, what a stupid idea. its obvious that hes town, hes just being stupid like he does sometimes. he gets so paranoid about stuff that his mind starts making up all these unplausible scenarios where x has to be scum. he does it all the time, especially with me.

tchill stop doing these crazy flips.

remember waaaay back when i first claimed? you had me as lock town almost. all of a sudden though you just started going off on this tangent that im somehow this scum mastermind who can come up with a plausible role with a boon sounding name to counter both dunk and mulch (at the time) all for the purpose of actually wanting to get a mass claim to happen on day 2 so that i could actually keep my partner mulch (who id apparently counter claimed in the first place) another chance at living another day?

really teech?

all these posts are are a dig at my credibility. Why would you do that if my main lynch is the guy you know is scum? why not lynch scum with me and convince me your town next day phase?

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you want a TR from me you'll lynch mulch today. call me crazy for questioning a townie who would rather lynch a questionable PR claim than someone who he has said is scum on multiple occasions.

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the games i incorrectly read fykus he lurked until pressured then played... as town he did that at least twice lol. pretty scummy play style as town if you ask me.

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you want a TR from me you'll lynch mulch today. call me crazy for questioning a townie who would rather lynch a questionable PR claim than someone who he has said is scum on multiple occasions.

Scum appealing to Fykus

questioning a player who would rather lynch a questionable pr than lynch someone he believes is 100 percent scum just makes sense.

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you want a TR from me you'll lynch mulch today. call me crazy for questioning a townie who would rather lynch a questionable PR claim than someone who he has said is scum on multiple occasions.

Scum appealing to Fykus

questioning a player who would rather lynch a questionable pr than lynch someone he believes is 100 percent scum just makes sense.

Nonsensical scum

mulch you know this line of thinking makes sense.

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mulch i sheep you after you die and are thus confirmed as town. your too hard for me to read while your alive and unconfirmed

same guy that said he believes mulch is 100 percent scum twice this game lol.

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Mulch and fykus are both scum. Mulch due to his play before the mass claim and fykus due the the fact he got cc'd from theta and fykus conveniently added 1 shot BP to his role so he wouldn't get questioned when he didn't die. He outs mulch (who looked like he was definitely gonna be lynched) Votes him, gets huge town cred and rides off to win the game on this play alone.

Mulch and fykus are both scum. Mulch due to his play before the mass claim and fykus due the the fact he got cc'd from theta and fykus conveniently added 1 shot BP to his role so he wouldn't get questioned when he didn't die. He outs mulch (who looked like he was definitely gonna be lynched) Votes him, gets huge town cred and rides off to win the game on this play alone.

this seems plausible actually

lines up with fykus's "where's the other weird role to counterclaim me?" defense, assuming scum was given a weird role.

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the fact mulch did not get cc'd does not matter if scum got the one role that is non-normal.

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lynch me then.

scum is theta, mulch and one of the vt claims. (not carca).

you would rather yourself be lynched than mulch? lol

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id rather theta be lynched, then mulch then me but if lynching me first is what it takes to get you out of this pigheadedness then yes

See if you're town this should got mulch, Theta and then you shouldn't even be there because their flips will have cleared you.

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What fykus is doing right now is refusing to allow me to townread him because he's not gonna vote mulch today, the guy he's 100 percent certain is scum, because he's rather lynch theta because theta claimed role blocker after seemingly cc'ing but since it was a role blocker claim that seems good enough to continue the push... What fykus is doing here makes no sense in my eyes if he's town. He literally just said lynch himself first if that's what I gotta do to lynch theta. Which would mean we would lynch fykus then theta then mulch if it was up to him. Once again putting mulch at the BACK of the line.

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OK. We lynch theta then mulch? Havo makes sense. I just don't understand why fykus was so against a mulch lynch in all of this.

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My issue is there are ppl that have taken a hard stance on mulch yet do not want to lynch him. Havo and fykus and I myself both claim mulch is guaranteed scum. Chip butty and dunker have said he's not the lynch today. Tywin refuses to talk about anything except the VT pool. There's a ton of info from a mulch flip.

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Tywin you wanted to vote in the VT's because you didn't want to risk a pr claim. Now you'd rather vote theta instead of Mulch because theta is probably a scum pr but it's confirmed if mulch's role is less help to town if he's telling the truth.

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Guys.... Mulch is jumping at everything posted

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Only consistency in chips game play is going above and beyond not to lynch mulch. The other guy who threw shad on havos plan was theta which it could provide incriminating evidence against theta so that makes sense... Any other opinions outside of those 2?

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In what universe is it not ludicrous/scummy to not lynch someone multiple people claim that he's 100 percent scum.

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If Mulch flips Town. It Confirms Theta as Town.

LMFAO SO THIS IS YOUR PLAN

Meanwhile in mulch land. Throws crap at the wall. Doesn't stick? (no one said anything about this) sits back. Waits for an opportunity to throw more crap.

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Only consistency in chips game play is going above and beyond not to lynch mulch. The other guy who threw shad on havos plan was theta which it could provide incriminating evidence against theta so that makes sense... Any other opinions outside of those 2?

Correction: Chip's RECENT gameplay. Before that i was gung ho to lynch Mulch, for about 200 posts. I've pointed this out to you before, but you keep conveniently forgetting.

And THIS IS WHAT MAKES YOU SO SCUMMY. It's like you don't understand dude. Same principle for fykus. Yall both wanted to lynch someone very badly who there was a good possibility was scum and you find the slightest reason not to. Then you refuse to even talk about it as today's lynch. if it doesn't make sense for me to scum read people based on that ALONE then I don't know what game yall are playing.

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So chip has now taken a hard stance mulch is town. More information for the flip.

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There reasons for not lynching mulch aren't even the same. It's 2 completely different reasons. No one finds that odd?

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Oh my gosh we're chasing havo now... If we would just lynch mulch, open the next day phase with our outcomes from the PR's. We'd have a ton more information than talking ourselves in circles and lynching a townie because of it.

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So chip has now taken a hard stance mulch is town. More information for the flip.

I'm the most vocal, but if there werent plenty others who think Mulch is town I'm sure you could get the numbers to lynch him.

OK everyone state your opinion on whether mulch is town or scum then.

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Mulch is scum.

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VOTE: assemble
can we do this?

Dunker is mulch town or scum?

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no idea

Alright hard null. Obvious you don't want to take a stance so that's fine. That's a read in itself. Next.

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Theta you're starting to look like chip now. This game is just a bunch of people stretching for reasons not to lynch mulch at the slightest possibility of things.

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yeah ik, which is why i haven't hard pushed fykus yet
if it was any other mod fykus would probably be lynched by now
i still doubt his claim but oh well
i'd still like to lynch in the VTs

How about teech then who scumclaimed by not voting theta his “scumread”

Fykus did the same exact thing get out of here with your BS. So did chip butty.

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Seems like mulch has made another crap throwing appearance.

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Will mulch throw enough crap some actually sticks? Will town lynch obv scum? Will even more people come out and say mulch is scum at least once but refuse to vote him? Find out next time on DRAGONBALL Z.

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Hey havo we're talking to people that are gonna be against the mulch lynch because they're probably his scum buddies. Chip butty is probably town that's just wrong. Klazam, tywin, Assemblerotws, carcalilly are the ones who need to go back and read what we've been posting.

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i am against the mulch lynch for mechanical reasons

basically let me rephrase
i have a clear on mulch for mechanical reasons
assuming that carcalilly cannot prevent kills
and that mulch would not be the night kill if mulch is scum

There's some doubt that comes with your claim because of how you claimed and when you claimed and how convenient your claim was for mulch based on the fact dunkers claim was also convenient for mulch. In other words. Your claim is poo until you can prove it.

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Havo don't change your mindset until the others get on. We do not negotiate with scum lol. Mulch is the lynch you know this havo.

"OMG THERE IS IT THEY STILL CAN'T LYNCH THEIR SCUM PARTNER" - Mulch

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Chip, dunker, Fykus and theta can't all be scum. One is playing absolutely awful town. Keep that in mind.

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VOTE: theta

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Wow. Sure got quiet after ma last few posts.

Obviously this was not what they were hoping for. Lol.

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Wow. Sure got quiet after ma last few posts.

Obviously this was not what they were hoping for. Lol.

They having an emergency meeting in the scum forum to decide how to handle it.

Does have usually have terrible/unhelpful votes?

claim

everyone but you has claimed we are only waiting on you

Scums one true hope appears.

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The amount of people I'm comfortable with being in lylo right now if it comes to that is zero lol.

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The amount of people I'm comfortable with being in lylo right now if it comes to that is zero lol.

so i take it you are not comfortable with yourself being in lylo

Nope because it shouldn't come to that.

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Carcalilly is mulch scum or town?

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Oh wow. It's still a theta or mulch lynch. Imagine my shock.

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Alright. Let's lynch theta.

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I prefer mulch also but if we didn't compromise this would go nowhere.

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Oh back to this. Nice.

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Scum are capable of claiming a pr. Shocking I'm.

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Because mulch was about to be quick lynched and gave up. Because you and mulch faked a Mason claim and had a circus of a 1v1 that worked out for both of you. Because fykus and mulch claimed roles that don't seem to go together. Of the VT lynches there's no more information we'd get from lynching a PR that doesn't really help town like the commuter claim mulch made. This is why we can't lynch a "scummy" VT here.

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At our end point drunker you posted my idea of a mulch/fykus scum team was viable and now you've went to this.

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i told you i have literally 0 idea anymore. theres so many possibilities right now, we need a flip to sort this out
i'm trusting you guys on this theta lynch

Well it's noted as soon as mulch wasn't the lynch you decided it's time to see a flip.

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if mulch was scum there's no way they'd send him to do the nightkill tho

lol. His name is mulch and he is special so scum wouldn't send him. That's a bad argument.

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When havo and tchill are forced to bus

ok so theta IS your scum partner. thanks for letting us know.

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i've played with you about 10 times now. stop trying to act like since havo hasn't played with you he can't catch you as scum. you're trying to throw around a perception for the other players here.

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post count is nai for mulch. he's had a scum game where he posted way more than anyone else. can't remember the exact count.

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pretty sure it was about 1,500. mulch can tell us when he gets back.

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it was 1,795 posts to be exact.

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he's waiting for an oppurtunity to throw more crap. its rinse and repeat at this point

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How the fuck am I deflecting attention while top posting

it was 1,795 posts to be exact.

when he starts using posts count as a defence for himself he is scum.

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you yourself have stated your posts count is nai

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How the fuck am I deflecting attention while top posting

Because your posts are mostly just slinging shit at the wall

he's waiting for an oppurtunity to throw more crap. its rinse and repeat at this point

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another classic scum mulch move

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so chip you ready too lynch mulch yet?

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my vote is still there. im still ok with the theta lynch.

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my vote is still there. im still ok with the theta lynch.

LMAO YOU PUSHED AGINST IT UNTIL YOU WERE FORCED TO BUS

yall want to know why mulch is ok with a theta lynch? because mulch knows he will flip scum and act as if im his scum partner. i will be tunneled tomorrow by mulch. town will have earned this loss if mulch is not lynched this next.

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meanwhile chip is trying to solve the game by himself based on 3ish particular post.

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You are saying that I'm so eager to clear Havo, but I NEVER cleared him. 95% clear isn't a full clear.

Pathetic. It's way more than is warranted by your result.

whats pathetic is we still havent lynched theta or mulch who are BOTH scum.

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thats the only reason mulch started to push theta and act like we bussed. that narrative changed really quick.

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So I'm scum because my role is too standard in a mini NORMAL game....got it.

well this lines up with chips play as far as terrible reasoning goes.

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Starting point for me if I want to catch up on relevant stuff?

Read what I just posted, and honestly I think you should just go back and read what you missed but just skim over the Mulch and Havo/tchill because they pretty much did it throughout the thread.

skim over the most important part of the game yeah...

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just take your time and read over the WHOLE thing mumble seriously.

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Fuck me dead chip youre obsessed. Ive explained my reasoning now vote theta. It seems like youre just stalling for time

chip says my persuit of mulch is one upmanship yet he's trying to be a genius and is making things more complicated than they have to be.

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lol @ chip when theta flips scum.

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Let's flip theta and find out chip sheesh

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Why Theta over Mulch?

Fykus, being the only non-normal in a Boon game, is probably town given no other non-normal claim. He's a commuterizer who also commutes himself when targeting scum. Mulch is an odd-night commuter.

Mulch/Fykus' roles are in conflict, as it doesn't make sense for two town commuting roles. We should lynch Mulch given the above.

there it is... a smart townie.

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mumble and tywin lets lynch mulch today. if hes scum lets lynch theta next or vice versa it doesn't matter. theyre both scum.

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I'm fine with theta--->Mulch---->Tchill


That would get 2 scum. Can everyone agree on this?

Alright. Let's talk about action results before we drop the hammer on mulch.

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I'm fine with theta--->Mulch---->Tchill


That would get 2 scum. Can everyone agree on this?

whats funny is this was your plan and you open with a vote on havo instead of me lol. No fight here though mulch im just foollowing your lead. action results first then we lynch mulch. mulch said so.

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I already told you the multiball was a reaction test. I had no idea it was actually multiball. And you know I woulden't give up as scum, the hat tip was sarcastic

i appreciate you not giving up though. if it wasn't for that theta would have been more difficult to figure out. So i tip my hat to ya mulch

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Thoughts on thetas partner teech?

honestly leaning towards Mulch/Dunk and Theta/Chip. would explain the bad play from all them. chip is the most questionable atm.

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@Boon could there be a singular werewolf faction?

Yes, there could.

Lmfao so it might not even be multiball

lmfao so it's confirmed multiball once you flip

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hell it could be chip/mulch. dude is obv defending mulch at every turn.

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Thoughts on thetas partner teech?

honestly leaning towards Mulch/Dunk and Theta/Chip. would explain the bad play from all them. chip is the most questionable atm.

Why did you feel the need to preface that with 'honestly'?

like chip is looking for every excuse not to lynch mulch and he's nitpicking me for one word it's quite funny.

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I'm fine with theta--->Mulch---->Tchill


That would get 2 scum. Can everyone agree on this?

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sergtacos - 2 shot neighborizer

- CONFIRMED

mumble = vt
carcalilly = ??
tchill13 = vt
klazam = non consec bg
assemblerotws = vt
tywinl = tracker
dunkerdoodles = loyal odd night vig
theta alpine = rolestopper
mulch = odd night commuter
chip butty = vt
havo = vt

alright the other scum, if there are 4, is in the vt claims. at this point scum would be to afraid to run into a cc.

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going off gut im thinking havo and assemble are town along with carca. what did mumble claim?

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this is why we should lynch in the VTs

if you are on mulch's team please stop making it so obvious. if you are town get your head out of your butt.

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so mulch/dunker and theta/(chip or mumble]

lock it up.

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fykus why is klaz the only one with a result and why wouldnt pr's at least state their action?

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so mulch/dunker and theta/(chip or mumble]

lock it up.

@Fykus

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Me and klaz and tywi n have every night actions.

ok

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Okay, so where I'm at with Mulch.

As d2 drew to a close, i was coming around to believing Fykus's story, which would make me fall back on my earlier Mulch/Dunk theory. It all comes down to whether it really is mechanically impossible for Mulch to have eaten the NK.

BTW people keep forgetting it was me who cast shade on those two when everybody seemed about to locktown them...

i sure aint forgetting you casted shade then refused to vote lol.

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could klaz even give us info as a bg? fykus who did you target or did you already state this?

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ok ok i apologize for being too lazy to read an argument as to why mulch "could be" town when the guys definitely scum and you definitely refused to lynch him at the end of yesterday. he opened the day phase voting havo, not me, when he stated the lynch list should be theta, mulch , tchill. then the best argument he could come up with was "mechanics" lol. mulch is scum.

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could klaz even give us info as a bg? fykus who did you target or did you already state this?

No probably not.
I targeted mulch on the off chance the werewolf faction targeted me

didn't chip throw serious suspicions at tywin? that's worth noting.

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mulch was supposed to do the nk.

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Fun fact the game is multiball, so have fun with that

Oh and BTW a lot of people failed my multiball reaction test. Use that info when I flip

you know when you say its a test? when you realize you have a shot at not being the lynch but you have to have an explanation as to why it actually is multiball lol.

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I got reply from mod.

THANKS MR BOON

says commute beats rolestopper. so theta is lying here?

I was just told that a rolestopper would beat out a commutizizer

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Havo is flat out lying. Lying comes from scum. You lynch all liars

"lynch all liars"

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hell it could be chip/mulch. dude is obv defending mulch at every turn.

Do you disagree that those voting for Mulch need a theory about the lack of n1 NK?

Uh, Fykus? <cough>

so lets say mulch is thetas partner, i'm pretty sure he is, and mulch wanted to do the nk because his role is just a regular goon or a lesser PR. That is your unneeded explanation chip. This would explain Mulch's "bussing" comments of me and havo. Mulch knows theta flips scum then pushes havo and me for "bussing" because it is literally his only play.

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frankly it doesn't matter what scum team mulch is because he is scum.

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Dunk tomorrow. No exceptions

i'm literally confirmable -.-

ok... shoot chip?

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Mulch is on dunks team. The guilty shtick was a big gambot they both pulled.

yeah i guess that did happen before the "bussing". honestly the speculation doesn't matter because mulch will flip.

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since mulch stuck around we found a member of the seperate scum team? i like that explanation though fykus.

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so whats with chip's unwillingness to vote mulch?

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i'd hate to see you get tunneled if you call what im doing tunneling.

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Okay, my opposition was based on me not believing Fykus earlier...but without that obstacle...

VOTE: Mulch

so whats with chip's unwillingness to vote mulch?

You're either braindead or scum.

you just explained it as unwilling to believe fykus i just wanted fykus's opinion.

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You're either braindead or scum.[/quote]

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well i messed that up lol

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I'm fine with theta--->Mulch---->Tchill


That would get 2 scum. Can everyone agree on this?

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Well at least let havo posts his thoughts, same with assemble and mumble

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I definitely don't think it'sconfirm ed multiball until we see a different faction flip.

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I agree but you just never know until flips confir it. Would you put it past boon to make the scum a different color just to confuse town?

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Btw my scumbuddy is assemble

that moment when assemble is cleared because you know scum mulch would never give up like this

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VOTE: mulch

well i town leaned assemble but it very well could be wifom so now idk.

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UNVOTE:

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tchill, havo, mumble, assembler, chip from town to scum

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No quick lynches. I'll be on in a few hours after I get home from work.

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Dunker I swear.... We made it explicitly clear to target chip.

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There been 2 votes for Dunk to shoot Chip.

No one else has offered a candidate.

Well either way chip you're wrong. Even if it was just one.

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Dunker is town for sure.

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Dunk was supposed to shoot Chip.

Let me restate that. Dunk is terrabad town for sure.

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Klaz you didn't use it last night phase?

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Klazam did you use it last night phase? Just to be clear so we know you can do it tonight

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I mean...whoever he targeted is conftown but he can't tell us now so why did he do that?

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Did he really think scum wouldn't try to kill him?lolol that's exactly what happened if the mod didn't mess up.

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So fykus took it upon himself to change direction and dunker decided to shoot assemble...great.

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I mean...whoever he targeted is conftown but he can't tell us now so why did he do that?

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So Lilly and chip are pushing dunker now?

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Where'd carca go after the awkward vote?

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I will be soon. Who's scum here chip?

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Alright im town gunsmith. i'll try to provide evidence.

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Why don't I just say I come out and targeted mulch too lol? This is a little ridiculous. 3 PR's targeting one player on the 1st night... If all the claims are true its either multiball or scum have really powerful roles. I'd still like to lynch mulch. Apparently everyone is interested in mulch to some degree so I don't understand why we don't just lynch him. There's more than enough to scum read him. I'm not going to discuss fykus with theta any further if that's how he's going to approach it.

i targeted mulch night one and i got "no result"

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i targeted assemble because of low posts count and got no gun night 2

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I mean...whoever he targeted is conftown but he can't tell us now so why did he do that?

i targeted mumble, because of low posts count once again, and got no result. Fykus targeted mumble last night. This clears Mumble and Dunker as town.

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In this set up we have a vig and a doctor. a town vig and a scum doctor both roles effect the outcome of a gunsmmith investigative. It makes sense for a gunsmith to be in the game.

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Klazam stated he can use his role tonight so that means i can clear one more person before i die. My action won't be directed by anyone. If i die this night phase Klaz is scum.

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Scum to town:

Chip
Klazam
carcalilly
havo
dunker
mumble
tchill

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I tracked Havo last night and I got "Target didn't go anywhere"

This is why I'm pushing for a lynch among the VT pool, because Havo is like 95% confirmed VT (more than the other VTs) so our chances are pretty good for hitting scum. If we mislynch, oh well, it's just a VT. Lynching a claimed PR is too risky in my POV.

P-Edit: I would never leave you guys <3

i townread havo because if its multi im pretty sure havo would have a pr. seeing how it would be 2 teams of 2 and mulch and theta both had roles. If it's only one team there's no way havo goes after theta and mulch like he did. so that pretty much clears havo either way.

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Dunker has poor confidence when it comes to pr results.
Remember the time he got gun on fykus?

Mulch NEEDS to be our Lynch today, there is NO good reason for him not to be.

I was mulch's scum partner twice.
Sure I was killed early once but yeah.
He's reacting terribly to this. <.<

In defense you're reacting with aggression that I'm assuming isn't super bad because ily mulch, but sorry you rolled scum.

You make it sounds like I'm talking nonsense but I can tell you know exactly your situation here. :')

skirt skirts replace out seemed town. on top of this carca reacted perfectly to the scum mulch situation.

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Tchill, you've been hard on my case for ages now. And you mean to say you haven't investigated me? I mean, you've been tunnelling me LMAO. Plus you lied about your role.

I seen some great advice on this site once. They talked about using investigative roles for low posts players. That's who scum wants to bring to lylo and sometimes scum hide behind low content. Made perfect sense to me.

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We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

if it's multi it's probably chip/klazam. Multi would be a decent excuse for chip to want to save the other scum team. Since that would mean town only dies every other night making it that much harder for chips scum team to win by themselves versus town.

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either way we put klazam in a position to verify his claim since i outted myself.

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either klazam dies and i get another result or i die and klazam is scum.

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there are either one or two scum in chip/klazam/carca

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i mean i figured out fykus changed his choice when i got no result on mumble. Makes sense for fykus to target him seeing how i was also weary of mumble.

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Let's see what Dunk says.

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so your'e on mulch's team. Which explains why you refused to lynch him.

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also night 3 would have been mulch's team kill. Did you just confirm multiball chip?

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LMAO if it's chip and klazam.

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LMAO anyways... honestly.

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I will be soon. Who's scum here chip?

There's 7 of us left.

I'm sure of me needless to say.
If Fykus's commute went through then Dunker is clear. So we need to hear back about that. Also, it would mean neither of the kills are his, which seems to imply 2 more scum.
I'm getting townvibes from Havo and Klaz. They seem to be trying to figure things out.
You I'm not sure about after the way to came charging out of the gate this morning on my case and not trying to work stuff out first.
Carca looked bad with that vote, but maybe genuine mistake.

That leaves the enigmatic mumbles. Do we have a claim yet?

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

It's Tchill and Havo, guys.

BOOK EM DANNO, MURDER ONE!

VOTE: Tchill

Havo tomorrow.

so havo and klazam are town at first but then havo and tchill are scum. That klazam town read just sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

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let mumble and dunker and lilly at least get a few posts in.

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why wouldn't it be tchill and mumble? you questioned him in the first post. You decided to throw your other town read onto your hypothetical scum team with me though. That makes no sense.

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I claimed VT then tried to bread crumb if i ever did have to hard claim. That was my intention at least if one crumb came before the VT claim then that's just how it was laid out.

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Want to point out one thing for future consideration- if i die, it doesnt automatically confirm tchill as town, he could have shot me to preserve his fakeclaim. I dont think this will be the case though. If its multi, tchill is still my #1

Wait, tonight is the mulchteamshot night if multiball, so this wont work...

No, you're on me either way. if it's one team i can still die tonight. If its multi then we will have 4 conf townies going into next day phase. If it's single you or anyone else dying will let us know. then it's either 4 conf vs 2 scum or 4 conf vs 1 scum.

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If 9-2-2 Mulch's team is gone.

Exactly, so there should be no kill tonight if its multiball.

Which makes me wonder if i should hold my bodyguard to the next night...

Nah, better plan for the worst, ill protect tchill.

town should have no problem protecting an investigative role here.

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ok thats fair for you to be weary but game setup discussion and breadcrumbing are there for a reason.

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in terms of klazam is town on... the next day phase (klazams perspective)

scum no kill= 5 conf townies

scum kill klaz= 4 conf townies

scum kill elsewhere= 4 conf townies

assuming you believe me like you rightfully should

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i understand you gotta do what you gotta do here chip.

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chip's the lynch today. klazam is on me this night phase. if i die klazam is scum.

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i shot assemble
i've literally been stating the entire game i scum read assemble and you guys gave me the choice between assemble and chip
plus the fact that i'm confirmed from the enchantress flip

lol. someone who's gotten little to no heat for simply not posting or someone whos literally been in the middle of the fire...

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If i die and klazam changes the course and decides not to bodyguard me for WHATEVER reason he is scum. If he does this and he's actually a town bodyguard then it's on him.

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If i die and klazam changes the course and decides not to bodyguard me for WHATEVER reason he is scum. If he does this and he's actually a town bodyguard then it's on him.

Agreed

ok good. You should have said that if chip flips a different faction then you shouldn't bodyguard me because that would confirm a no kill this night phase.

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There are seven of us left:

Mumble conftown
Dunk claimed odd night vig
Tchill claimed gunsmith
Klaz claimed BG
3 x claimed VT: Carca, Havo, Chip.
6-1

So, following the Klaz strategy, we lynch in the VTs today. If we miss, 5-1:

Klaz dies n4
4-1

D5
Mumble
Dunk
Tchill
Two of Carca Havo Chip
And Tchill investigates one of the two remaining VTs.

If tchill gets a positive we lynch there. If that doesn't win the game we lynch tchill d6. If tchill gets a negative, we lynch the other VT.

Mumble
Dunk
Tchill
And one of carca Havo Chip
3-1

N5 dunk gets shot
Mumble
Tchill
And one of carca hava chip
2-1

D6
Tchill and the unconf vt vote each other. It all comes down to Mumble.

this is just nitpicking at this point... mumble is only conftown if you believe my claim... so...

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i'm also confident in mumble because he's conftown and he actually handled the mulch situation like he should have. even arguing we should lynch mulch before theta. So ik he's got some common sense.

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VOTE: chip

Alright klazam. If chip flips town you're on me. Of chip flips a different faction you're not. If chip flips werewolf the game should be over but if it's not for some reason you're on me then too. These are pretty easy rules. If I die tonight klazam is scum. If chip flips a different faction most things lead to klazam being his scum partner because of how klazam pushed me for scum if it's multiball. He did that a little too early like he knew it would come down to that. Klazam and chips interactions haven't been worth noting up until this day phase when they've had to talk to each other. Chip town read havo and klazam then pushed me and havo as scum. That's not consistent and it keeps klazam as a town read.

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Sure can't.

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UNVOTE:

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can we lynch someone else?

explain please

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Scum to town:

Chip
Klazam
carcalilly
havo
dunker
mumble
tchill

the only players that can move around here are klazam, carca and havo. If anything carca and klazam have just made me feel better about their positions on here.

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sweet

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btw, i don't think klazam should use his ability tonight, and use it tmr
if maf kill me we get 2 results from a gunsmith
if maf kill chill we get a cop result from me
if maf kill klazam we get a gunsmith and a cop

no klazam should use his ability on me if ship flips town and town only. If he flips a different faction their shouldn't be a kill tonight so klaz doesn't use it on me then. If klaz keeps me alive this night phase we can get one more result regardless of who scum kills, me or you, going into day 6. this would give us at least 2 more results before lylo right?

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can we lynch someone else?

explain please

I think they town.
They're reactions to everything is so townie.

this doesn't line up with your stance on mulch. You should be willing to lynch chip based off how he handled the mulch situatiuon. Scum as a last ditch effort is gonna sound really townie.

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I tracked Havo last night and I got "Target didn't go anywhere"

This is why I'm pushing for a lynch among the VT pool, because Havo is like 95% confirmed VT (more than the other VTs) so our chances are pretty good for hitting scum. If we mislynch, oh well, it's just a VT. Lynching a claimed PR is too risky in my POV.

P-Edit: I would never leave you guys <3

i townread havo because if its multi im pretty sure havo would have a pr. seeing how it would be 2 teams of 2 and mulch and theta both had roles. If it's only one team there's no way havo goes after theta and mulch like he did. so that pretty much clears havo either way.

if it isn't chip its probably havo

@dunker

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if it's multiball and theres a kill every other night then it will be in each teams interest to keep the other team alive until towns numbers are dwindled down. So if havo is scum on the other team why would he persue mulch and tywin like he did? for town cred? tywin had already given him a little town cred from his action. So it doesn't make sense for havo as another faction to persue the other scum team. So now the only way havo is scum is if he's on mulch's and theta's team. Well that makes absolutely NO sense. The only way havo is scum is if he didn't use his night action on night 1(both members of a 2 man scum team have pr's so i expect the other faction to have 2 pr's) AND he decided to tunnel the other scum team which would make it harder for him to win.

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can we lynch someone else?

explain please

I think they town.
They're reactions to everything is so townie.

this doesn't line up with your stance on mulch. You should be willing to lynch chip based off how he handled the mulch situatiuon. Scum as a last ditch effort is gonna sound really townie.

Scum is always trying to spund townie. Why would they suddenly be more successful at the last ditch?

I swear, you had better be scum or i am going to think the opposite to everything you post in every game ever going forward.

just blacklist me. If you flip town here theres no justification for your play.

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mumble anything left to say?

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i'll agree with you on he isn't on mulch and theta's team though

in the mean time... You understand if its multi and havo is scum he would have a pr right? What are the odds he didnt use this action night one and tunneled the other scum team knowing it would be harder to win because town stays alive every other night. He tunneled mulch, willingly changed his vote to theta. This implies he knew they werre scum together. That wasn't that hard to figure out dunker.

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mulch was conf scum and theta was probably scum the whoooooole time almost.

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mumble anything left to say?

I'd like to hear Carcalilly's response to my question.

can we see a reads list from town to scum?

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From me?

yes

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@Fykus

VOTE: chip

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1. Dunkerdoodles
2. Tchill13
3. Klazam
4. Havo
5. Carcalilly ~ Chip Butty

I want to hear Carcalilly's alternative lynch.

why is klaz higher than havo?

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i'll agree with you on he isn't on mulch and theta's team though

in the mean time... You understand if its multi and havo is scum he would have a pr right? What are the odds he didnt use this action night one and tunneled the other scum team knowing it would be harder to win because town stays alive every other night. He tunneled mulch, willingly changed his vote to theta. This implies he knew they werre scum together. That wasn't that hard to figure out dunker.

you aren't making sense to me
if havo is mafia, he doesn't know who the werewolves are. therefore he thinks hes lynching townies while in fact he isn't
that being said i don't actually thinks its multiball. the normal game queue also says the flavour name for the scumteam can be werewolf or mafia, so boon probably just made the scumteam werewolves to spice things up a bit (and maybe to even make us think about multiball)

i can't make sense to you because it wasn't obvious to you that mulch and theta were scum.

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mumble anything left to say?

I'd like to hear Carcalilly's response to my question.

the only ones she can say are havo or klazam.

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he's waiting for an oppurtunity to throw more crap. its rinse and repeat at this point

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i understand you gotta do what you gotta do here chip.

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why is klaz higher than havo?

He's claimed a PR and Havo didn't

Yes, Klaz hasn't been on a single scum lynch, but he's drawn a lot of unnecessary attention to himself if scum with that claim (that's a bad Pr to claim as scum). Havo was on Theta, but not Mulch. Easy bussing that went wrong the next day.

Havo was on Serg, and Klaz wasn't.

ok. Vote count analysis is your explanation. what about my explanation as to why havo is pretty much cleared?

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why is klaz higher than havo?

He's claimed a PR and Havo didn't

Yes, Klaz hasn't been on a single scum lynch, but he's drawn a lot of unnecessary attention to himself if scum with that claim (that's a bad Pr to claim as scum). Havo was on Theta, but not Mulch. Easy bussing that went wrong the next day.

Havo was on Serg, and Klaz wasn't.

i don't think you even posted on day 2 but wanted to lynch mulch before theta. this is hypocritical but you're cleared anyway.

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if it's multiball and theres a kill every other night then it will be in each teams interest to keep the other team alive until towns numbers are dwindled down. So if havo is scum on the other team why would he persue mulch and tywin like he did? for town cred? tywin had already given him a little town cred from his action. So it doesn't make sense for havo as another faction to persue the other scum team. So now the only way havo is scum is if he's on mulch's and theta's team. Well that makes absolutely NO sense. The only way havo is scum is if he didn't use his night action on night 1(both members of a 2 man scum team have pr's so i expect the other faction to have 2 pr's) AND he decided to tunnel the other scum team which would make it harder for him to win.

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I don't get it. You say that the only way that Havo is scum is if he's on Mulch/Theta's team and then say "that makes absolutely NO sense" but don't explain.

because of how he tunneled mulch and theta...

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you didnt vote mulch

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oh... theyr'e not open to discussion. ok.

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Tchill is worrying me here. His posts recently is dropping in quality. I'm sticking to the plan here, but if I'm not dead tomorrow, gotta analyze him more. Also keep in mind if I die, that doesn't auto clear tchill.

Also feeling better re havo, incidentally.

It's chip/tchill/carc imo in that order

yeah klazam we know you think im the push when your scum buddy flips a different faction. luckily we'll have another conf townie at that point.

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At this point I'm convinced that it's not multiball.

alright lets lynch chip and find out if hes town or a werewolf your on me. if he flips a different faction you shouldn't use your ability tonight.

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lol its not multi because fykus got killed and it would have been mulch and theats teams turn to kill.

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yes please vote

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Alright ... So today I knew if klazam was alive I'd tunnel him. if he was dead I'd go after carcalilly... Klazam doesn't have a gun.hes cleared. It's gotta be carcalilly or havo. I think it's carcalilly.

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Chill- why did you gunsmith me when i could have died in the night, vs the 2 uncleared vanillas who wouldnt have been nightkilled?

if you had not died i would have tunneled you no matter what. so had I not risked that and gotten a result on you I would be dead set on your lynch rn. I trusted my ability to make the right read between havo/carca more so than klazam/havo or klazam/carca because you would have been scum in both scenarios in my eyes. There's really no possible way havo is on mulch and thetas team due to havos iso. It is NOT multiball because there was a kill last night.

I figured scum would either:

no kill to make it look like multi
kill dunker due to his investigative role
kill me which would have killed you
kill mumble due to his conftown status.

of the 4 I figured killing dunker would be priority so I gambled and it payed off. I was already showing interest in lynching you so i thought scum may stay away from killing you to provide another mislynch.

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Carca is my only decent townread lmao

Lmao is correct. Only town read you have is because of a replace out only because you've been detached from the game? Not buying that either.

Why not? I’ve been so focused with dealing with this shit no way I can process it right.

carc could also be scum, i kinda scumread eddie
scum could've made us claim knowing we're both town
but if you think the replace out was town then idk

I'm pretty sure he's town, Eddie's rage seemed geuine. At the very least I don't want to lynch Carca today

Dunker has poor confidence when it comes to pr results.
Remember the time he got gun on fykus?

Mulch NEEDS to be our Lynch today, there is NO good reason for him not to be.

I was mulch's scum partner twice.
Sure I was killed early once but yeah.
He's reacting terribly to this. <.<

In defense you're reacting with aggression that I'm assuming isn't super bad because ily mulch, but sorry you rolled scum.

You make it sounds like I'm talking nonsense but I can tell you know exactly your situation here. :')

skirt skirts replace out seemed town. on top of this carca reacted perfectly to the scum mulch situation.

so i searched replace and these were the posts giving town cred to skirt skirt/carca due to the replace out

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pretty sure carca pushed mulch after it was evident mulch was gonna be lynched...

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pretty sure carca pushed mulch after it was evident mulch was gonna be lynched...

carca replaced in after the fiasco that was the dunker/mulch 1v1. so mulch had the spotlight on him at least a little bit already.